Khell_Sennet:
In my defense of certain movies..

Silent Hill wasn't true to the story, blah blah blah. Don't cry me a river over that BS because the damn sequel games aren't any more true to the story some times ... .

Yes they are.

Khell_Sennet:
Pyramid head was done awesomely

He wasn't

Khell_Sennet:
the ending left room for sequels but with enough closure to not demand them, and throughout the entire movie I was never uninterested. That's an f'ing good movie if you ask me.

We're never going to agree on this, are we?

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As an aside, I think a 'Metal Gear' movie could be interesting, so long as it is done carefully, imaginatively, in a way that remains true to the ethos.

Mortal Kombat: Annihilation was not even watchable for me. It is the dregs of the movie industry, with no redeeming qualities that I can think of.

Personally, I'd like to see a Rainbow Six movie. I think that with a little less focus on the people actually doing the fighting, you could have plenty of room for enough intrigue to make a good story.

As for movies to games, What about spider-man, batman, superman and the hulk games? They may be primarily American, but many people the spider-man game sequels were very good. I don't know about the others.

I think there are some games that would make good movies(if done right of course). Metal Gear Solid 1 or 3 I think would be a good but it's pretty much a movie anyway with the length of some of those damn cutscenes. The Half Life series would probably also make a good movie but not form the viewpoint of everyones favourite bright orange savior. Possibly, like some people have said, based on the half life universe(events such as the 7 hour war) or maybe following a resistance fighter being told tales of Gordans heroism and trying to follow in his footsteps or just have Gordan dancing in his HEV suit for 2 hours because no matter waht they did with a hl movie I know I'd still watch it.

Xadin.co.uk:

Melaisis:

Besides, there's no use getting wound up about the whole situation.

These movies make millions because gamers venture out to go see them just to criticise them later. Its a great business plan, and kudos to Hollywood for keeping it up.

So you are advocating the movie industry to use lethargic writers who don't know the games metaphorical arses from their also metaphorical elbows and also you are saying it is the gamers fault for them to expect something worth while.

BTW casting Sean Bean for a pointless part does not make it a great film in the slightest, if anything they underused him because he should have been the main protagonist but oh well that's my point of view

Basically, yeah.

You all seem to forget that the gamers don't necessarily have any say at all in the content of the these movies. And this isn't just applying to the bigoted, money-grabbing studios either. Check out the upcoming Warcraft movie; Even Blizzard are hardly taking in recommendations from the fanbase. This is down to a number of reasons, mind. We all trust Blizzard with its own lore (something which, may I remind you, Konami falls down with), but surely there's a million things they could shoot a movie about, right? If it was up to Tigole and the crew, they would try to include everything. Hollywood writers are employed to take a semi-outsider's prospective for audiences which may be new to the franchise and condense the entire saga into a form of media which is digestible.

Again, I repeat, these movies are still making money. Silent Hill made almost a 100% profit on gross revenue. Video games companies are still going to sell their rights to film studios (or spend millions on their own half-arsed attempt) regardless of our opinions as long as they still make profit. In addition, going back to the main example of Warcraft, do you think Blizzard would be right to hear what the majority of the fanbase want to see? I don't fancy two hours of this in all honesty. Well, that applies across the wide board. We can whine all we want, but unless we all suddenly become the licence-holders for these respective games, the film spin-offs ain't gonna stop.

I'm defending the companies in this as a businessman; because I would do exactly what they're doing. That doesn't mean I don't think that 90% of what they churn out isn't shit. Its just profitable shit.

Sean Bean is still B-list in Hollywood. :'(

Anyone though of a MGS film? obviously not to story line, becasue there are different aspects in a game that make it fun and different aspects in a film that make it enjoyable. But would be intersting non the less.

Katana314:
I'd still like a Half-Life movie, but only if a director takes it seriously enough. In order to turn it into a real story, I could actually see things like removing the HEV suit entirely.

If there is ever a Half-Life movie, I want it to cover the Seven Hour War. The games tell the story in exactly the wrong way to make a good movie, so no direct conversions. There would be no HEV suits, no Black Mesa, no former Black Mesa scientists, and most of all no Gordon Freeman. Seriously, can you imagine a movie in which the main character never talks? Or maybe they'd give Gordon a speaking part anyway, and ruin it.

Max Payne, I hope for a movie and I think its going to happend

RobPlumpton:

Khell_Sennet:
Pyramid head was done awesomely

He wasn't

I beg to differ. How was he not done awesomely? When I saw him (and this is the first time I've ever seen him) I was so scared of him, ven though i had lack of the gameing knowledge. I looked into him more in the games and such and the only fifferences I found was his helmet. It is 5 sided in the game but only 4 in the movie, this was only done so that the actor could move and breath. The second was that the helmet was red. Even still, the helmet looks awesome as metal. It makes it seem more painful and torturous to wear.

I'm glad at least Purple could accept the awesomeness of movie Pyramid head. If it came down to Jason Voorhees, Pinhead, Freddy Krueger, and movie-version Pyramid Head, I'd take my chances with the first three. Jason would just kill me and leave it at that, Pinhead is actually kind of a pussy, and Freddy can only get you when you sleep... I'm a gamer, I can go days before even needing Jolt Cola... Now Pyramid Head... He would rape you, cut you, cut you, rape you, rape your cut, cut you while being raped, then round it all out with a decapitiation and a good skullf**king.

PurpleRain:

RobPlumpton:

Khell_Sennet:
Pyramid head was done awesomely

He wasn't

I beg to differ. How was he not done awesomely? When I saw him (and this is the first time I've ever seen him) I was so scared of him, ven though i had lack of the gameing knowledge. I looked into him more in the games and such and the only fifferences I found was his helmet. It is 5 sided in the game but only 4 in the movie, this was only done so that the actor could move and breath. The second was that the helmet was red. Even still, the helmet looks awesome as metal. It makes it seem more painful and torturous to wear.

Superficially, he looks ok. However, the representation, the manner in which this beast delved into the subconscious, was what made it more powerful than any number of creatures that appeared in competing games (and indeed, the world of film). Take out the critical elements of a character's makeup, and you have a shell. If you have a shell, it isn't a properly functioning character. If it isn't functioning properly, then is hasn't been competently realised. Accordingly, Pyramid head has not been 'done awesomely'.

Khell_Sennet:
I'm glad at least Purple could accept the awesomeness of movie Pyramid head. If it came down to Jason Voorhees, Pinhead, Freddy Krueger, and movie-version Pyramid Head, I'd take my chances with the first three. Jason would just kill me and leave it at that, Pinhead is actually kind of a pussy, and Freddy can only get you when you sleep... I'm a gamer, I can go days before even needing Jolt Cola... Now Pyramid Head... He would rape you, cut you, cut you, rape you, rape your cut, cut you while being raped, then round it all out with a decapitiation and a good skullf**king.

Depends which version you're talking about. It is erroneous to project the characteristics of computer game PH onto bad movie PH - in the film, he was little more than a monster who killed horribly. In the game, he was as much James's creation - insofar as he projected his subconscious desire to punish himself (incidentally self mortification, a very strong theme within the games, was overlooked by the film too) and to seek sexual gratification that, after the demise of his Mrs, he probably only ever obtained from a lukewarm apple pie (or am I getting this mixed up with something else ...?) - as he was the town's. In the movie, there's something of a 'So what?' element about him - any monster could do what he did. In the games, only PH could be PH.

Crap_haT:
Anyone though of a MGS film? obviously not to story line, becasue there are different aspects in a game that make it fun and different aspects in a film that make it enjoyable. But would be intersting non the less.

Yes I did a little while ago. I think it would be interesting to explore the ancestry of its main protagonists, maybe concentrating on the American Civil War period; by concentrating on one or two individuals who are a few generations behind, you can retain the mystique that rests with Big Boss's unexplored past, while examining whether genes or society made the man (it would also be fun to explore methods of information exchange - genetic, pictorial, numerical and so on - as the second game did).

Melaisis:

Basically, yeah.

You all seem to forget that the gamers don't necessarily have any say at all in the content of the these movies.

My argument simply that, where rich and compelling material is presented, it makes little sense to strip away those elements to provide a sanitised version for people who lack the capacity to think things through.

Melaisis:
And this isn't just applying to the bigoted, money-grabbing studios either. Check out the upcoming Warcraft movie; Even Blizzard are hardly taking in recommendations from the fanbase.

To be fair, I wouldn't trust a bunch of MMORPG fans to steer a movie concept - it'd be composed entirely of tits and sci-fi/fantasy bonking ("One hears that the princess doth nightly provide most wonderful skullbuggery upon thine pork spear")!

Melaisis:
Again, I repeat, these movies are still making money.

Good for them! However, for as long as movies based on computer games fail to perform artistically, the public will always see gaming as a second-rate form of entertainment.

Melaisis:
I'm defending the companies in this as a businessman; because I would do exactly what they're doing. That doesn't mean I don't think that 90% of what they churn out isn't shit. Its just profitable shit.

See above

Khell_Sennet:
I'm glad at least Purple could accept the awesomeness of movie Pyramid head. If it came down to Jason Voorhees, Pinhead, Freddy Krueger, and movie-version Pyramid Head, I'd take my chances with the first three. Jason would just kill me and leave it at that, Pinhead is actually kind of a pussy, and Freddy can only get you when you sleep... I'm a gamer, I can go days before even needing Jolt Cola... Now Pyramid Head... He would rape you, cut you, cut you, rape you, rape your cut, cut you while being raped, then round it all out with a decapitiation and a good skullf**king.

Don't forget about ripping your skin off and throwing it at a door...

Khell_Sennet:
I'd absolutely die to see a Halo movie so long as Peter Jackson has nothing to do with it.

This brings two questions into my mind...
1. What's so bad about Peter Jackson?
King Kong was awesome, and he did the best with the Lord Of The Rings books I could imagine being done with them (Honestly, as a story, The Lord Of The Rings is pretty weak, especially compared to stories taking place in a living fictional world, like Discworld. On that matter: Watch "Hogfather" as soon as possible!)

2. Do you really think Halo's excuse for a storyline could fill a two-hour movie?

Anyway, back to topic...

I agree with all those who suggested Half Life. Although I never played the first game (and never will unless something very unlikely happens), Half Life 2 was really great, but, as others said, the story should be based on what the player doesn't see while playing the game. Like the evacuation of City 17 and other events that are only hinted at.

Also, Homeworld: Cataclysm might work as a movie. The story could be centered around one of the Somtaaw scientists who barely escaped the Beast outbreak on the Kuun Lan and, together with others, tries to find a cure for it, with the "normal" Cataclysm storyline happening around him. If it's done right, it could even be a great mainstream movie.
The other Homeworld games won't work as well I guess, because everything that's happening basically happens in or around the mothership, which is kind of the player character (Karan Sjet), making it all quite static, and without much room for subplots.

I'm thinking that, potentially, 28 Days Later could be a good game - rather than concentrating on the film's protagonists, there could be scenarios all over the country, following various groups of people as they struggle to survive. Some will, some won't, and some will be fought by other characters later on.

Thaliur:
1. What's so bad about Peter Jackson?...

2. Do you really think Halo's excuse for a storyline could fill a two-hour movie?

1. I'm not overly fond of Jackson, and his specialty is fantasy, not science fiction. If I could ask for any director for Halo, it would be Ridley Scott, or James Cameron. I'd still take Jackson over George Lucas or JJ Abrams mind you.

2. Yes and No. My hope for a Halo movie would be they start off with the first novel, "The Fall of Reach". Odds of that happening with Microsoft in control, Zero. As with DOOM's movie, any attempt to compress the entire game in one film will result in Epic Fail. Doing Halo as they've done the Pirates of the Carribean films however, multiple movies signed on for with more than one in production at a time, that could work.

Lets say (if the Fall of Reach is left out), the first movie is from the beginning of the game thru to about the point where you first encounter the Flood (that video sequence from Mr I.B. Deadnow's helmut). Second movie picks up from there and continues to the end of the game, but just after the end credits, include the Johnson/Elite scene from winning on Legendary.

If the first two are a success, film another pair to make up Halo2. Yada.

Sweet Cthulhu, I just realized: the perfect Half-Life Movie...would indeed be an original story.

It would take place more-or-less directly after the black mesa incident. the main characters could be barney, Kleiner, Eli, and, if the movie covers several years, even a young Alyx. The remains of the black mesa science team are forced to face the world, knowing what they have done. they are determined to use the tech they developed to repair some of the damage they have caused. barney would be the most major character- he has a well-defined personality, and a blue-collar action hero might be popular.

Valve would be able to use their old portal storms idea, in which zen wildlife gets randomly ported all over the earth. Houndeyes hunting in suburban streets, bullsquids frolicking in a supermarket parking lot. Headcrabs, everywhere. very Dawn of the Dead Remake (the opening part), but with acid-spitting squid-dinos. Humans congregating in walled cities for protection.

Then, the Seven Hours War. Gunships blotting out the sun, striders in the streets, hunters, crab and mortar synths, some sort of previously-unseen foot-soldier alien.

Or, things pick up at the tail end of the Seven Hours War, we see the final battles, breen negotiating the surrender, the citadels rising, and the establishment of the Combine's regime. the black mesa survivors are still the central characters, and we have some nice tense dystopian scenes. the shelling of ravenholm might be featured as well. the movie would be Barney and Alyx's story, mainly. the Vortigaunts would be major characters as well, as we would see Eli first making contact with them.