Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1140 Joined: 16 Jan 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1618 Joined: 29 Dec 2007    | The email itself was an insult to the soldiers. They don't deserve to be carried around on the backs of chain letters. If you want to pay respects to them, donate to a vet rehab fund or volunteer helping said rehab centers. Anything is better than this. It just serves no point, all it does is provoke various emotional responses, it doesn't actually help the dead vet's memory or their comrades. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 713 Joined: 29 Jan 2008     |
I agree |
Beat Writer Posts: 126 Joined: 31 Jan 2008   |
I'm gonna agree with this too. I asked a friend who's in the military what he thought of this and he wasn't impressed. There are plenty of good ways to remember and honor the fallen, this isn't one of them. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 788 Joined: 9 Jan 2008    | I remember recieving a chain mail letter, it was all about this young girl who was in dire need of help. For everytime this letter is fowarded 6p is given to her foundation. She had lung cancer and a brain tumor from being beaten as a young baby. BOTH condition come from DNA mutations. This spam does not refelect our stupidity, it reflects yours. And just for the cherry on top. She is bound to die sooner or later (Probably from my hands tightly squeezed around her neck), so am I and everyone else. Thats not a threat! If I do send the email to at least 15 more people, will she be granted with eternal life? Because if thats the case there is no fucking way I'm following your orders. These emails are poorly thought through, and the people who made them deserve to be shot, along with the man who invented the gun. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 788 Joined: 9 Jan 2008 |
This man speaks wisdom. (Original post; "What he said") |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1618 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | Damn, three agrees in a row, I'll bet most prophets don't get this lucky on their first try. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1140 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 | Well everyone hates chain-mail :P I figured this'd be the general consensus. I was vaguely hoping someone would start shouting at me for being disrespectful for deleting it, but there's never an idiot when you need one. I would have to agree that it is an insult to the soldiers, though it seems I'm more vunerable to guilt-manipulation tictacs than I thought since my resolve not to send it on was weakening. Although, I do wonder, maybe whether it would be an insult would depend on the person. I mean there was that case of a guild in WoW who had a member die so held a funeral in-game (which was then slaughtered). Surely on paper holding an in-game funeral would be just as bad, but perhaps if the deceased member had known, they would have appreciated it? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1618 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | No, holding a funeral in a game would have some significance. Much like a regular funeral, it would give them an opportunity to remember their friend's life. Chain letters are just impersonal. |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 4 Joined: 23 Feb 2008  | I have donated to many armies (mostly the Israeli army, I feel they need it the most) I place the curse of pain and misery to all Chain email starters and forward-ers #1 sign of a chain email: FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE FWD. RE |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1224 Joined: 1 Jan 2008 |
Well, they kinda have to, don't they? (look at your avatar) |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 788 Joined: 9 Jan 2008 |
"They"? As in I am some kind of arse kissing entitie? I for one am offended! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3653 Joined: 25 Jan 2008  | I have filters set that block all (well, most) chain letters. Thank you Mozilla Thunderbird, you keep crap from my inbox. Now if only Mozilla made snailmail mailboxes and fax machines, I may get free of the human tendency to harass others. As to the soldiers themselves, that letter's not even HALF as despicable as some I've seen... A "Nigerian Prince" style scam made it though our filters at work, and they were using the context of dead and wounded soldiers to try scam money. If the f**ker sending this shit ever gets caught, I hope they dress him in a pig costume, hog tie him, and paradrop his ass beside that famous Muslim monolith. Last we hear from him, I guarantee it! |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1618 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 |
I'm pretty sure they're running on "street cred" now, when you take on three Arab nations and not only win, but gain territory, that my friend, is quite gangsta.
To quote the chav who rides my bus: "Shit's gettin real gangsta now, my n****." |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 713 Joined: 29 Jan 2008 |
Yea, but when countries say shit like "Just give them some land, it'll all smooth over" you have to question what will happen if a war really does break out in the mideast. Would anyone bother to help our Hebrew friends, or would we sit back for the sake of bieng PC? |
Paperboy  Posts: 15 Joined: 8 Feb 2008 | I agree with Mister Galt, chain emails are sewer smeg. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1618 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | I think we should help them and support them as an ally and all, but I just think it's funny how they were able to beat back three countries within a few days. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3869 Joined: 29 Nov 2007  | Congratulations, you found an insult to dead soldeirs. Did you also notice people protest at the funerals of soldeirs who died in a Iraq? |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 713 Joined: 29 Jan 2008 |
Those guys are just plain disgusting. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1865 Joined: 13 Dec 2007 | On chain mail: If it's from someone I don't like, I find them amusing (and then delete them). If it's from someone I know/respect, I find them saddening (and then delete them). My sister sent me a 'for every person you send this to, Bill Gates will send you $300' email. I buried my head in my hands. On soldiers: I feel pretty ambivalent. On one hand, they can help bring security to a nation (note the 'can'). On the other hand, they kill people in often unjust wars. So in the end, I treat them like normal human beings and work towards bringing them home. On dead soldiers: I think it's grotesque how much these people are exploited after they're gone. People use them for all means, and there's nothing to be done about it. |
Beat Writer Posts: 126 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 |
You guys are kidding, right. Please tell me that dosen't actually happen. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1618 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | Yeah, it does happen. |
Beat Writer Posts: 126 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 | If you listen carefully you will be able to hear the last dregs of my faith in humanity draining down the toilet. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 713 Joined: 29 Jan 2008 |
What took it so long? |
Muckraker Posts: 314 Joined: 24 Nov 2007   |
It ain't funny for the people living in the ghetto that is the West Bank... but it is damn impressive. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 186 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 | "War isn't hell at all. It's man at his best; the highest morality he's capable of ... it's not war that's insane, you see. It's the morality of it. It's not greed or ambition that makes war: it's goodness. Wars are always fought for the best of reasons: for liberation or manifest destiny. Always against tyranny and always in the interest of humanity. So far this war, we've managed to butcher some ten million humans in the interest of humanity. Next war it seems we'll have to destroy all of man in order to preserve his damn dignity. It's not war that's unnatural to us - it's virtue. As long as valor remains a virtue, we shall have soldiers. So, I preach cowardice. Through cowardice, we shall all be saved."-Americanization of Emily Something to think about. |
Muckraker  Posts: 289 Joined: 22 Dec 2007 |
I'm so saving that on my computer. Best thing I've read all day. |
Beat Writer Posts: 126 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 |
I thought I could hang on gamely 'till the bitter end but nope.... gutter here I come. |
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Ok, I'd like to throw a thought out to you slavering forum-hounds, and see what you think of this.
About a year ago I received a chain-email. Now out of sheer bloody mindedness I never go along with these things, but read it anyway. It was about the troops in Iraq, with pictures of various ones, all looking heroic. And then it got to a section on the dead soldiers. Reading through it, it turned out this email was meant to be a mark of respect for these dead soldiers, how they thought that if people will go to the effort of forwarding an email to 6 people, just to spread and honour the name of someone fallen in the war, it would have meant a lot to their deceased comrades. I began to feel slightly guilty about the fact I had no intention of playing along with it. Until I reached the last line. Which was this:
Send this to 6 people and something really good will happen. You have 15 minutes. Go.
I don't want to hear about anyone failing this.
At which point I waved a merry two fingered salute and deleted the bloody thing. It struck me that if they were going to lie, and try and give a (bad) reason to send this on rather than as a mark of respect, it muddied the whole thing, but mainly, because I'm not going to be threatened. So what do you guys think? Is it unrespectful for the dead to try and remember them with anything as corny as a chain-email? What do you think about the threatening idea of the last line, and the lies? Have you had any faintly interesting chain-mail sent your way?