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Muckraker Posts: 296 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 | |
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Beat Writer Posts: 201 Joined: 24 Nov 2007 | http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Survival-Guide-Complete-Protection/dp/1400049628 I'll let the professionals handle it for me. Or the BBC, for that matter: |
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Press Junketeer Posts: 372 Joined: 8 Jan 2008 | Dude, think about zombies all the time. I've got plans n shit falls it happens. They're not actually written, but I've gone over it enough in my head that I'm ready. I'll post again, when I've got something (more) useful. |
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BANNED Posts: 371 Joined: 13 Mar 2008 | Simple solution: GO TO CANADIAN TIRE Canadian Tire has everything you would need: cars, guns, camping equipment, plants, seeds, greenhouses, nearby food stores, building materials... the list goes on. (Oh yea, and chainsaws :D) Basically, all you have to do is wait out the inevitable apocalypse on high ground or underground and hope that the zombies starve to death due to lack of food. On that note, remember that food is imperative. Food and water should come before shelter, weapons or any other tools required for a zombie apocalypse. Try to be somewhere with a huge amount of food and water, that won't go bad quickly. (i.e. supermarket) STAY AWAY FROM STRANGERS: never trust any person in a zombie situation. They are probably bitten or are a little crazy to have survived as far as you have. Trust only your friends and yourself. Besides, in a zombie situation, the more is NEVER the merrier. DON'T SPLIT UP: if you are with a group of people you trust, and the option to split up into individual or smaller groups arises, DON'T. Although sticking together wastes time searching places or finding thigns, you will be a much more difficult target with numerous people. (Also, you can always hope the zombies kill off the other people first if you're attacked!) Lastly: Try to get a computer. In every zombie movie, TV stations shut down and radio messages are full of lies or were made a REALLY long time ago. (a la 28 days later) The interwebz are impossible for the zombie hordes to use, you can find other survivors, keep up to date on how bad the situation really is, find out where shelter and the military is, and you can keep sane by reading The Escapist's forums, and Yahtzee Croshaw's inevitably hilarious: Post-Apocalyptic Zombie World review. Good Luck and Good Hunting! |
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Muckraker Posts: 288 Joined: 11 Mar 2008 | Oh, Potato Lord, you are such a spud. But what sort of zombies we talkin' here? Crazy dark voodoo ones? Dawn of the Dead ones? Shambling, decomposing zombies? Speedy zombies? Y'see, if it's the shamblers, I'm currently in a partnership with a friend of mine, and we're building a suspension cage deep in the mountains, where the shambling kinds can't reach. Sort of screwed if it's the speedy kind. |
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Anonymous Source Posts: 8 Joined: 20 Mar 2008 | It's times like this that I'm glad I frequent Max Brooks' work on the matter. |
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Beat Writer Posts: 167 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 | Being a Brit, obviously, I'll stumble around London, twatting the occasional zombie with my cricket bat, before everything going to pieces in the last ten minutes and all my mates getting eaten alive. No...wait... |
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Press Junketeer Posts: 485 Joined: 22 Mar 2008 | Maybe just get into a tank? Seems like no one ever actually thought of that... A whoopsie moment if there ever was one. |
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Press Junketeer Posts: 422 Joined: 23 Dec 2007 |
Yeah, I mean there are just dozens of MBTs just lying around on the street corner. But seriously, not a bad idea. |
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Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 902 Joined: 14 Sep 2007 | For Australians, I'd suggest a little trip down to your local Bunning's (in your newly acquired, thank you Mr. Bighter, tank) to stock up on shovels, rebar, bricks, hoes, trolleys, hot dogs, etc. |
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Gone Gonzo Posts: 1712 Joined: 18 Dec 2007 |
Allready there mate. OH god no, all those workers who have that annoying habbit of talking to camera's are shambling towards me. OH GOD THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM AND THEY ALL HAVE THOSE RED APRONS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......... *runs into the little kiddies playground an holds them off at the door....* |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 69 Joined: 6 Dec 2007 | Pfft, the ultimate survival method is with a megablimp. Really big blimp with a farm on board (wouldnt have to feed more than you) water filter (refilling from the ocean), solar panels, batteries and a whole lotta helium. If you take a hunting or sniper rifle with you, you can fly over once populated areas and take potshots at zombies for fun. |
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Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 751 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | 1- A crowbar is useful as it is powerful and can function as other than a weapon. Ok I'm done.... for now. |
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Gone Gonzo Posts: 1712 Joined: 18 Dec 2007 |
Are you talking about me or the real fire. Cos the zombies didn't get to me and turn me into a brand mew form of super zombie with the ability to talk and stand up straight; oh no! |
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Gone Gonzo Posts: 1010 Joined: 29 Dec 2007 | I'm just going to quote Max Brooks on this one: 1. ORGANIZE BEFORE THEY RISE! These are the Ten Commandments of fighting the undead.
You could be Zombie Jesus, he could talk. Right now you're looking a little paler and more 'eat-your-face-for-brains' than normal. |
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Muckraker Posts: 256 Joined: 24 Feb 2008 | If I was in a zombie attack, I would go somewhere cold, such as certain parts of Russian, Alaska, or Canada. Everyone knows frost damage of +5 damage will destroy the average zombie in a minute or two. You could also go to China, who will still have have overpopulation problems, and with most other people being zombies, the world's food surpluses will go down and China won't be able to import enough food to feed their people. With this, China will order their citizens to feed on the zombies for nourishment, proving to be an disgusting example of irony. You could also go to Mongolia...I mean, does anyone hear any news come out of that place since the last time they ruled world? Seriously, zombies might just think 'Mongolia' is an urban myth. You could also go to Africa or Hattii...they would have voodoo magic in place to stop the zombies. |
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Muckraker Posts: 256 Joined: 24 Feb 2008 | Did you guys ever watch Red vs. Blue's episode on having a zombie plan? If you can find it on Youtube or something, it will provide you with the basics...plus its good for a laugh. |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 81 Joined: 6 Feb 2008 | Get semi truck get as much ammo, supplies, building materials and survivers as possible and head towards the most isolated spot I can to. (preferably Pennsylvania where there coal.) |
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CEO Posts: 417 Joined: 12 Nov 2002 | One thing is clear: The end-time is 2012. If your zombie preparedness/asteroid apocalypse/financial meltdown/mass destruction defense plans aren't ready by then, game over. |
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Beat Writer Posts: 178 Joined: 23 Dec 2007 | get a boat, go to the middle of the sea. take a fishing rod, bait, a lighter, gasoline, and a slingshot. go to mainland from time to time to get some supplies, find some survivors (mostly women, as one of your primary objectives will be to secure the continuity of the human race). Zombies don't seem to attack each other. If you're really in a desperate situation, just start acting like one. They'll probably leave you be. |
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Muckraker Posts: 279 Joined: 13 Jan 2008 |
Yeah it's great. "Tasty meat bottle-neck" springs to mind. Living in blighty I'd have to find a shotgun from a farm, or raid an army base. Then get out of overly populated areas and build a place to live high up in the countryside. I am fond of the tank option though. Very fond... |
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Muckraker Posts: 289 Joined: 22 Dec 2007 | Just for my contribution? To any wanna be movie stars; DO NOT BRING A MOTHERFUCKING CHAINSAW. Are we all clear? |
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Press Junketeer Posts: 429 Joined: 17 Oct 2007 | Equipment basics. This is what you'll want to have before the event even STARTS, even though the weapons can be procured shortly after as well since they're pretty much only useful for a zombie outbreak unlike the other stuff. The other stuff is things you should have even if the zombie apocalypse DOESN'T happen. Hatchet, Knife and Crowbar. The hatchet and crowbar are weapons as well as tools, the knife is strictly a utility tool. Don't try to take a zombie on with it. You'll die. Rifle. Something bolt-action, or at least single shot. This encourages good aim, the weapon type has the optimal braining ability, and if you're close to a zombie you shouldn't use a rifle anyway, so an assault rifle is suboptimal. Not to mention assault rifles need a lot more maintenance. Do not fire at targets above 100 meters away without extremely good reason. Targets above 100 meters away are better off ignored. I suggest 30-10 meters, to maximize aim. A single bullet wasted can very easily mean your bloody, fast, death. Handgun. A pistol is preferable to a revolver if you are skilled enough, if you are not, a revolver is easier to use by far and is thus the better choice. This is for mid-close encounters (under 10 meters) only. For any distance above that, use the rifle. You'll want a heavy, very sturdy backpack. Military issue is preferrable. If not, outdoorsy hiking types. Ensure that the backpack can be removed from yourself with extreme ease, a mere shrug of the shoulder in the right way should do it. This ensures that if you get grabbed, you can ditch it immediately. For food items, anything that can be eaten cold and lasts in room-temperature storage is a must. A week's supply at the very least. At the first sign of an outbreak (or any other type of disaster), draw massive amounts of tap water up into storage. It is not suggested to keep liters upon liters of water around constantly, but empty containers, well..you have some of those around, don't you? Note that WATER is what you want. Nothing alcoholic, milk, juice or soft drinks. Milks and juices go bad fast, alcohol is plain out, when the apocalypse starts you are going to stop all your vices, cold turkey. Soft drinks aren't preferrable due to their dehydrating side-effect. First Aid. You'll want a full first aid kit. If possible (I say this a lot, but they make very sturdy stuff), military issue. Bandage, antiseptic spray, burn cream, medicinal alcohol, cotton swabs. Those are the basic items a first aid kit must have. Above that, you'll have to consider if you want to add to your backpack's weight because you can't handle bugbites and indigestion. Heavy painkillers, morphine being ideal, are very good to procure soon after the apocalypse, if you can somehow find a hospital (or preferrably, pharmacy) that isn't overrun with the undead. You will be unable to use a car very early on, because the roads will be blocked up very badly. Ergo, going by foot or bike is optimal, until you can find something very heavy to aid clearing vehicular debris on-the-go. (A military troop crawler, AKA an APC, is ideal. If not, a bus or truck with hillbilly armor works too. Certain construction equipment is useful as well, but they usually don't have the pure amount of storage space that APCs or busses do.) As for other survivors you meet, once you get to a safe place to spend the night, demand full stripping and medical inspection from every one of them (and yourself of course). Anyone with bite marks must be tied up overnight, if possible to a radiator or something else that won't let them go off biting you in your sleep, and then ditched in the morning. If the other survivors refuse, leave without them. The ideal place to go is very rural midwest (if in the US, similar rural farming areas if not). You'll want a place that can be set up with triple layers of mesh wire, very sturdy. You'll want an unlimited source of water, such as a river or an area with several underground deposits of water (this is why US midwest is ideal). You'll want a lot of farmland, and not a single other house in sight. All the farmland and surrounding area of the house you are planning to use will be, as previously stated, surrounded by at least three layers of wire mesh fences, and place them down REAL sturdy. If you can break through them by driving with your truck, it's not sturdy enough. The entire fence-line be replaced at least once a year. You'll want to find someone with technical knowledge, to place some sort of infinitely renewable energy source (wind energy, water energy, etc.) at your camp. If at all possible, procure electrically powered agricultural equipment. If done correctly, your camp should be almost completely independent with no need to venture out for supplies. If you do end up venturing out, you will get supplies in this order: Necessary, useful, doubles of necessary, doubles of useful, wanted. Another extremely important rule: Guns are for zombies only. Anyone holding or using a weapon on another person, for any reason, is exiled immediately. Tempers are sure to flare, but life is extremely precious, and more importantly, tempers flaring is always how the people in the films die. If you can't stay together for pure survival, then you WILL die. There. That should keep you ticking until they've all rotted to dust in 10 years or so. Until then, grab the nearest person of opposite gender and repopulate the earth. We'll need it. |
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Paperboy Posts: 33 Joined: 22 Mar 2008 | That was...overly useful...i don't think anything can really give more information than that... er, what i've beeen thinking is go to Super taget or somewhat...they'll have food, beds, weapons...It's better than the mall because there should be less people...Just go through and kill everyone when you get there, then barricade the entrances. Make sure there's a back door that is easily locked and blocked off. You can go through there to get out and get other supplies not in the super target, like guns. Shot gun kills several zombies in an area, even at long range. you could get a car and park it close to the door, so that it blocks the entrance while still allowing you to get through. A super target will have plenty of items for entertainment. 360's, PS3's, Wii's...If the computers there suck, you can go to BestBuy at some point. Also try and keep the electricity on so you can still drink that milk and energy drinks. That's all i got right now...essentially say screw survivors and be a loner till someone somehow notices you. |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 30 Aug 2007 | I'll disagree with propertyofcobra on one thing: the fencing surrounding your established base. A good sized zombie horde will have that down in a matter of minutes. I believe the ideal anti-zombie fortification is a house on stilts. At least twenty feet off the ground. And it would be best in an open clearing, at least three miles on all sides. This gives plenty of sight to keep look outs should you need to go down & get back up quickly. You don't even need to kill the zombies, they'd just walk right under the house. In point of fact, I would avoid killing them, as the bodies might literally start piling up, giving them a chance to climb up and get to your home. |
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BANNED Posts: 371 Joined: 13 Mar 2008 | Disregard my comments earlier, if all else fails, find PropertyofCobra and elect him your leader.... That guy is READY |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 30 Aug 2007 | I thought you had good points, SwiftV. PropertyofCobra's plans require multiple people already working together, with supplies and buildings; your plans work from an "I'm on my own" mentality. |
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BANNED Posts: 371 Joined: 13 Mar 2008 |
Thanks mate! I just think that in a zombie situation you have to really question the motives, and morality of any other survivors. I mean, if they have made it that far in a world of zombies and they're alone too... Just doesn't sum up. ESPECIALLY if they have any item you really need. Although at first glance you might think: "Cool that guy/girl has a (place needed item here)! Maybe I should join up with him/her!" STOP. Think about what you just said. Think about why he/she is alone and why they have the item. They obviously value it just like you do if they still have it, and you have no idea has to how they went about obtaining it. (Reminder again: THEY ARE ALONE) Seriously, I just think it's really hard to trust somebody in a hectic situation like that, but Cobra's screening process seems like a good idea to counter that. Although his process doesn't pick up on mental health problems and various other things known only to the inspected person in question. Maybe finding a psychologist would be a good idea? o_O |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 30 Aug 2007 | No I think sticking a person into an isolation chamber for a week would take care of any need for a psychologist. |
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Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 723 Joined: 9 Jan 2008 | I have a very detialed plan for the invasion of Zombies. But would be at least 5 pages of explaining as it covers "If things were to go wrong." But the number one thing that always springs to mind is "Flaming zombies= Bad news." This is because not only are the Zombies on fire and could do some serious damage to your life points but the virus is now airborne. In essence; you're fucked. |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 30 Aug 2007 | I'm just realizing, I'm sitting here in NYC, and after reading Max Brooks's excellent book, I'm probably in one of the worst possible locations to be in during a zombie attack: heavily populated city, very few ways in & out of tall buildings (the city too come to think of it), almost no easy methods to procure fresh water (outside of the tap, which you shouldn't trust), limited storage space for food/survival gear. I should say, for those (like me) who are unprepared: first thing, find a weapon. The longer the better, the heavier the better, like a crowbar or fireplace poker. Secondly, assess your current situation: are you in a safe location? How long will you be able to last on your current food/water? Do you have an easy way out? For those in an apartment complex: secure your own apartment (for only a matter of hours/days), then secure the floor (usually there are only one/two staircases; secure these points and don't let anything in), then secure the building. Look to the doorman/super's desk, they'll usually have keys to all the other apartments around you (this is dangerous). Be prepared to contend with your neighbors' reanimated corpses & you might make a friend of another survivor along the way. Any other advice for people who are in an already difficult situation? I don't want to be a zombie's lunch! |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 30 Aug 2007 | Oh, also: I find this mentioned so rarely. Safety googles/glasses & mask. Don't want to get sprayed with any infected zombie blood. |
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Copy Clerk Posts: 94 Joined: 21 Dec 2007 | Most of the points I would want to cover are already stated in this thread, so I propose a few minor adjustments for UK residents to use during the apocalypse: Get out of the City: British cities are densely populated and surrounded by endless suburbia, often running until it hits another city. Ideal zombie breeding ground. So head South and West into the rolling hills of northern Somerset, Devon, Cornwall or Wales (but nowhere near Cardiff, as this is also a major population centre). Steal Cars: Getting out of the city and getting supplied is going to be difficult, if you don't own a car remember it is the yellow and red wires that have to be crossed in order to hotwire (at least in Fords...) the engine. Head to the out-of-town shopping centres: Ram raid these large-scale stores ASAP with your stolen car, since other selfish survivors are likely to do the same, and secure some serious gardening tools (since in the UK our shops don't sell guns...) as well as all the camping equipment you can get your hands on. Also out of town super-markets will have much larger quantities of long-life food in storage. Garden centres will be most useful in securing your own vegetable crops and tools/weapons. Once in the WestCountry: find yourself an abandoned, durable structure near a water source with an exceptionally clear view of the surrounding land. Killing a farmer and his wife (unless you plan to use her for the repopulation - lets face it, morality goes out the window during a zombie-apocalypse) may suit your needs and provide you with ready-made farm land. Food/Hunting: Go out and buy a copy of Ray Mears' book 'Wild Food'. Buying books obviously won't be possible after Z-Day so accurate anticipation of the apocalypse will be necessary; if however you do not possess miraculous powers of foresight then an out of town Borders Bookstore will serve your needs. Avoid fighting the zombies where possible. This goes without saying, since you are not likely to acquire automatic weapons easily in the UK (except illegally in certain urban centres...but after Z-Day a city is the worst place to be) and who honestly wants to get up close and mental with a zombie when you could run (though this depends on the zombies...if they are slow, fine, but if they could be like the zombies/infected in '28 Days Later', then your probably best off saving a bullet for yourself) |
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Beat Writer Posts: 167 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 |
Although burning zombies are a walking hazard, the risk of the virus becoming airbourne are nil, unless the virus was airbourne to begin with, and capable of resisting high temperature. Nevertheless, firestorming the undead is a viable tactic, as long as you aren't planning on hanging around - once flesh ingnites, it burns until it becomes fluid - pretty much guaranteeing that the zombie is immobilised, or the brain is sufficiently damaged. Hand-To-Hand Combat With The Undead: It pays to be prepared. Not just ensuring you're armed when tackling the undead, but making sure you can protect yourself against a zombie in any situation. What if you're attacked in your sleep, and can't get to your weapon? Hence, being able to understand how to hold back, and disable a zombie wihtout a weapon is crucial. The main point of focus is to avoid infection, therefore, any contact with the head is ruled out, except in the instance I'll go on to explain about. But for now - contact points when fighting off a zombie are the torso and legs. Torso = The main bodymass of a zombie is the easiest target, one good, strong kick or push can send a zombie reeling, or put them on the ground for long enough to escape or find a weapon. Not only that, but with sufficient force, can turn one zombie into a battering ram, helping open up a gap in a small crowd of the undead. The problem comes from either clawing hands grabbing your leg/arm and leaving you vulnerable to a bite, or attacking a zombie with deep wounds in the chest cavity, or one which has been disemboweled. In this instance, getting your foot lodged in several feet of rotting small intestine can prove deadly, both as a risk against being unbalanced and bitten, or being infected from a shard of bone or flesh rubbing against open wounds. Thus, attacking the torso is a resonable tactic, but only if you are confident that you can attack fast enough and hard enough to put the zombie down in one strike. Repeated blows increase the risk factor. Legs = Zombies are slow, even in peak condition, and a powerful strike to the knees can bring one down in no short order, but it requires either awkward positioning (getting down low), or getting close to the zombie in order to sideswipe. Attacking the back or sides of the knee are the best areas to go for - if not breaking the joint and slowing the zombie to a crawl, then at least knocking them down. Nevertheless, it can be hard to bring down a zombie, especially those with heavy frames, as their low center of gravity can make them almost impossible to sweep over. Not only that, but misjudging a leg attack can drop the zombie on you like a misfelled redwood full of dead. Low-blows are a good tactic when taking down lightweight undead on their own, but tends to fall short when facing groups, or heavy-set zombies, when it would be more prudent to flee. Killing = Putting a zombie out of action is difficult enough with a melee' weapon, puncturing the skull is a challenge, but without a wepon, it can not only be tough, but downright dangerous, and shouldn't be attempted unless there really is no other option other than to kill or die. The neck and back of the skull are the best areas to attack, and even then, should only be tried on a downed zombie. Utilising your bodyweight, stomp, or jump, on the zombie's head or neck, not until the first crunch of bone, but until the zombie stops moving. The undead don't play dead, so keep attacking until they stay down. |
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Paperboy Posts: 14 Joined: 7 Feb 2008 |
NO WAY. If they were to gather up a decent amount of them (Even just 20 is enough for this) then they'd be choppin' down those stilts in seconds. You'd need huge amounts of snipers up there to hold them off. Nah, I'd say hole up in a small shop like a co-op or something. Supplies, weapons...it's all there. That said, the best places to hole up are places you know really well. Like spend at least half a day there every week. Well known shop - great! School - good. Work- good. Home - ok. Random shop in the middle of nowhere - really bad. BTW, if you know how to drive, get a lorry or bus for preference. Vans and 4x4s are ok, but don't even try it in a mini. Smart cars are out as a rule. Best thing is if you find places hard to get into, but easy to get out of and defend. Again, school or work are great for this as you know the ropes. Its your territory and you know whats where. Schools are best and if news of the apocalypse comes during school, its the best. Get everyone in the class ('cept untrustworthy people) together and go straight to the gym. Loads of good weapons there. I mean even a basketball to the head is enough to hurt badly, so it may well hurt a zombie badly too. Javelins, pole-vaults are awesome. Get some guys together to hit the cafeteria every once in a while. Of course, all this is only possible if you know the place you're in well. Get lost and, well, you're screwed. |
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It had just occurred to me that being a Gamer,and in general a nerd I actually think about what I'd do in a Zombie apocalypse. That In mind I thought many other people must do the samething at one time or another so I figured we should collectively write a guide for the inevitable human-munching hordes.
Basically you just write an article on something relating to surviving against zombies and so we maintain consistancy assume the zombies are the virally-infected slow and uncurable type.
Possibilities are:
"Proper use of Tools against zombies" would cover the pros and cons of using a hammer or a crowbar against zombies and it's usefulness outside of combat.
it can be umorous or serious just remember a few things
1)Title your article so we know what you're talking about
2)You can write multiple articles if you wish, just keep each one isn't too long
3)Try to avoid doing repeats of a previously covered topic unless it was done horribly.