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monodiabloloco
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I don't have an easy to sum up nutshell version with a cool quote life philosophy.
The closest I guess would be:

Think first.
Take accountability for yourself.
See all sides of a situation.

I try my best to remember those things at all times.

GyroCaptain
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"Sometimes you feel like a nut..."
Oh wait, not an actual nutshell? My mistake.

(Still valid :D)

Razzle Bathbone
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If something created this universe, it wasn't a domineering father who wants to tell you what to do or a nurturing mother who wants to keep you safe. It was a capricious child who wants to play.

Fondant
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If you have to pick sides, first ask yourself two questions.

1) Who's going to win?
2) Will I get sex out of this?

Anarchemitis
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Ignore people and you will see the light. Maybe.

"Do you see the cup as half empty or half full? -Doesn't matter, it's too hot!" (Splash) "Aaaaaug!"

Anarchemitis
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God created the universe with purpose. He made us to figure it out.

Duck Sandwich
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"A false life is equal to death. Never betray your principles." - Strider Hiryu

"Treat others as you would wish to be treated. Unless you're a masochist." - Me

"Turning away from that which tempts you is not courage. Facing it is." - Kreia

Syc1
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It's easier to get forgiveness than permission...

its a quote from british graffiti artist Banksy, its a kinda 'you only live once' attitude

Anarchemitis
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If I really wanted to, I could sum up the entire world into one word.
And that word is "no".

Seldon2639
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Syc1:
It's easier to get forgiveness than permission...

its a quote from british graffiti artist Banksy, its a kinda 'you only live once' attitude

Okay, I'm good with the quotation, but let's not misattribute it. The correct quotation is "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission" and it's usually attributed to Grace Hopper

Larenxis
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Anarchemitis:
If I really wanted to, I could sum up the entire world into one word.
And that word is "no".

How odd, I feel quite the opposite.

Sylocat
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Here's my motto, which I wrote myself:

"Good things don't come to those who wait. They come to those who get off their asses, go out there, find them, and take them."

Almightyjoe
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a few on a similar topic:

"if you set out to grant freedom to every opinion, be wary that prejudice is one of them"

"Every view is accepted, every act allowed, but so to is the right to oppose such actions, this is life"

"All men have the ability to affect all other men, to whatever end"

EDIT: one i remembered just as i hit the post button

"There is more strength in holding to Faith, than in the scorning of others for doing so"

Duck Sandwich
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Sylocat:
Here's my motto, which I wrote myself:

"Good things don't come to those who wait. They come to those who get off their asses, go out there, find them, and take them."

Shit, that's a damn good motto. Pretty much sums up my life story.

Fire Daemon
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Oh I also have this one:

"If you took the smallest unit of time and found out how many of these units you have been alive for you shall have infinity. At every one of these units you have changend the future of the world and its inhabitants. Make these moments worth it"

Fire Daemon
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Oh I also have this one:

"If you took the smallest unit of time and found out how many of these units you have been alive for you shall have infinity. At every one of these units you have changend the future of the world and its inhabitants. Make these moments worth it"

ingsoc
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I have two quotes by the author Henry Louis Mencken that best summarize my world view both related to ethics.

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody may be looking."

"Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant, in this field as in all others."

Larenxis
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ingsoc:

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody may be looking."

Ah, but I am my harshest critic.

Easykill
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My interpretation of the butterfly effect- Whatever you manage to accomplish intentionally in your lifetime will always be dwarfed by what you do by accident.

About the optimism/pessimism, has anyone else seen Pan's Labrynth? Aside from being an awesome movie, it really reveals something about your character. There is an ending that can be taken two ways, depending on your nature. The magical, happy ending, or the brutal, more logical ending.

Anarchemitis
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With ink as black as hell, we write our contracts of peace.

Divinegon
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Life is too big for one to set just one life mentality to it.

Syc1
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Seldon2639:

Syc1:
It's easier to get forgiveness than permission...

its a quote from british graffiti artist Banksy, its a kinda 'you only live once' attitude

Okay, I'm good with the quotation, but let's not misattribute it. The correct quotation is "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission" and it's usually attributed to Grace Hopper

sorry, banksy was the only instace i've seen of it...

another great one is one from Robert Frost: "in three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on"

stompy
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Sorry, but after a long session of Bioshock, this is all I can think of:

"A Man chooses, a Slave obeys" - Andrew Ryan

I like it. Seems like something I need to start listening to...

Ellisia
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Mine has to be :-

"You don't stop playing cause your to old, your to old cause you stopped playing."

The_Logician19
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Anarchemitis:
If I really wanted to, I could sum up the entire world into one word.
And that word is "no".

OK dad.

Sorry, had to do it :)

Almightyjoe
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"i am a banana"

Are we indeed fruit, or merely the semblance of fruit? in search of deeper meaning, i investigated the further implications of such statements, to determine if indeed, i am a banana...

"its peanut butter jelly time"

Why peanut, why butter, why jelly? here we see mans eternal struggle with the inherent commercialism of life, is all time doomed to be linked to such meagre objects? or is peanut butter jelly time a reward, an omen of better times to come, i would err for the latter if i had not come across this statement further in.

"peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat"

As we can see, violence permeates all realities based upon a material society, all such 'jellies' must come with a threat or motive, can we truly ever have peanut butter jelly without the baseball bat? or does the baseball bat make peanut butter jelly what it truly is? i fear that as a species we will never know.

Seeking oneness with the universe, i sought more guidance among the greatest minds to be found.

image

I thought that such a simple query was easily answered, until i saw that it was in fact being posed by an owl...

Does nature have a question towards mankind, is our link to the banana severed by the peanut butter jelly of our material reality? i thought perhaps we had merely been questioned by the owls, a constant symbol of impartial wisdom... until...

image

Here i realized that mankind had accountability to all of the natural world, not just the lofty birds whose high view i blamed for their harsh judgement, by the inevitable suspension of the partially obscured computer we can see that now nature has become dependant on our technology, but does not fully understand it (shown by the absence of perceivable data shown on the screen)

To test my growing concern, i added cat, owl, peanut butter jelly, computer and baseball bat together

As i saw, the result was disastrous, the cat leapt upon the owl, and only through he intervention with he baseball bat can man ever hope to regulate the unbalance he has incurred, proving the inevitable essential nature of the baseball bat.
The computer has failed, undone by our own commercial jelly, the peanut butter of irony short circuting the motherboard of hope.

are we doomed, destined for sweet but nutty doom at the hands of our own creations?

perhaps the owl could reveal the answer, but he has flown away...

The_root_of_all_evil
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With reference to XKCD:

"I can't come to bed. Someone on the Internet is wrong!"

Seldon2639
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ingsoc:
I have two quotes by the author Henry Louis Mencken that best summarize my world view both related to ethics.

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody may be looking."

"Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant, in this field as in all others."

Another good Mencken:

"The difference between a moral man and a man of honor is that the latter regrets a discreditable act, even when it has worked and he has not been caught."

Seldon2639
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"When every star in the Heavens grows cold, and when silence lies once more in the face of the deep, three things shall endure: Faith, Hope, and Love, and the greatest of these is love"

-First Corinthians, chapter 13

I can't believe I'm quoting the bible, but it's apt. The only things we do which remain are the ones which impact others, and the greatest of these expressions is love.

Cozmo1
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10 out of 10 people die, Don't take life too seriously.

Seldon2639
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Cozmo1:
10 out of 10 people die, Don't take life too seriously.

This is going to sound like an odd question, but why? If everyone dies, isn't that a reason to take life seriously while we're here, make our impact on the world rather than fading away in a blaze of hedonism?

Fondant
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'I will live my life by my standards, not your's. If they coincide, that's great. If they do not, you are the one in the wrong.'

Hedonism is great. And besides, the world cannot be changed. I wrote an essay on it at some point. I'll post it when I finish transcribing it.

Easykill
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No one? Really? Oh well.

Larenxis
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Easykill: They prove that it's not just her imagination, so it seems more likely that what she sees is what is.

Seldon2639
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Fondant:
'I will live my life by my standards, not your's. If they coincide, that's great. If they do not, you are the one in the wrong.'

Hedonism is great. And besides, the world cannot be changed. I wrote an essay on it at some point. I'll post it when I finish transcribing it.

Not the world as a whole, but those around you certainly. And if you attempt at it, you can make an impact on more and more people. I only find your logic baffling because your standards (being inherently self-concerned) are likely to result in harm to other (purposefully or incidentally). What makes you right? What justifies harm to others in order to achieve your hedonistic ends?

You can't argue that hedonism causes no harm. It can avoid causing harm in certain circumstances, but in others it's impossible. You decide to go get drunk, because it's fun for you, and come home at 3:00 in the morning, waking up your neighbors, how do you justify (in any way other than a repetition of "life's too short to live for others") your harm to other people?

I realize that's an odd example (pulled from my own life), but it's emblematic of the problems with an outlook on life that says "I do what I want, and screw everyone else". You can be self-interested without being selfish. But a mindset that broaches no disagreement, that's entirely illogical, and hence anti-philisophical.

Show me the world can't be changed. Show me that by doing what you want, you create more happiness for yourself than could be created in others by not being selfish. Hell, even show me that your happiness doesn't come at the expense of ill-effect to others, and I'll at least accept that you can make an argument that Ayn Rand-esque self-interest is good. Otherwise, accept that this isn't "the world can't be changed", and call it what it is: "I just want to do what makes me happy".

Also, how do you know your standards are right, and everyone else is wrong? That seems like and oddly religious thing to say.

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