Do you think the movie 300 had too much violence, or could have used a little more?

This. Is. Sparta.

It had the perfect amount obviously.

I think it was a nice amount. Any more and it would start to be over kill I think. With war scenes it gets kinda tricky I think. Though what really matters is the quality of the violence that was shown. Every violent act shown in 300 was awesome. Not one thing was unneeded or misplaced. It was violence that really made the movie worth watching...inless you are female anyway. hehe...*lets mind wander*

^_^

Holy hell I said 'I think' way too much...It's just one of thouse not all here kinda days.

The violence was just right for a silly over the top movie that you wouldn't show the kids. My personal beef was the fantastical monsters and mutants. And the LOUD NOISES all the GODDAMN TIME. Silly.

I think they should have just stop steamrolling all facts, including physics. I haven't cruched the numbers, but I'm pretty sure that when a guy has his head severed from a downwardws blade, his head doesn't fall up.

Indigo_Dingo:
I think they should have just stop steamrolling all facts, including physics. I haven't cruched the numbers, but I'm pretty sure that when a guy has his head severed from a downwardws blade, his head doesn't fall up.

You've forgotten AlmightyJoe's (God rest his soul) Theory of Awesome. If it's awesome it will work.

I didn't think it had lots of violence as much as everyone had ludicrously high blood pressure.

Meh, I didn't like the movie all that much.

As far as the violence, it would have been better if they didn't slow down every goddamn action sequence to the point of being boring.

It had not enough homoeroticism. This is Greece. There should be man-kissing.

Chilango2:
It had not enough homoeroticism. This is Greece. There should be man-kissing.

Agreed. Only one gay couple in the whole damn movie? And one drag queen? I didn't buy it. There should have been way more of both.

I loved it, yay 300! although i wish now they'd make a movie of the Persian Empire forming, now that would be great~ more history movies, even if overly VFX'd

Deathbird:
yay 300! more history movies,

I see the words, but they don't make sense...

Well the battle was a historical event, albeit taken from a graphical novel and hollywooded to death.

Deathbird:
Well the battle was a historical event,

I haven't done my research, but I doubt that's likely

Melty Blood:

Deathbird:
Well the battle was a historical event,

I haven't done my research, but I doubt that's likely

Yeah, it actually was based off a real battle. Even a quick search on wikipedia would show that's true.

"Frank Miller was inspired by the original Battle of Thermopylae after viewing the 1962 film The 300 Spartans (1962) as a child. His perception of the 'hero' concept changed greatly after seeing the Spartans make their sacrifice."

Quoted from the trivia pages of IMDB.

Indeed, what they say is true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae

Seriously, you kids REALLY need to pay more attention in world history class.

Melty Blood:

Deathbird:
Well the battle was a historical event,

I haven't done my research, but I doubt that's likely

The battle of Thermopylae was actually a real event, in which about 300 Spartans held the line along with soldiers from neighboring city-states against crap loads of Persians.

That said, the Persians definately did not have a giant and hordes or war elephants and rhinoceri. (Seriously, how did they fit those guys on the ships?)

I'm also pretty sure the real Spartans didn't wear leather thongs into battle.

Edit: Wow, three people managed to beat me to the punch. Woops!

Dammit, once again I know nothing.

Melty Blood:
Dammit, once again I know nothing.

It happens to the best of us.

By the way; you, my friend, have just been learn'd.

Melty Blood:
Dammit, once again I know nothing.

Story of my life.

Now that we're all done crucifying Melty for his historical blunder, onto the violence!

I'd say 300 had just the right amount of it. It had just enough to be totally awesome, without piling on so much that it became tasteless (Yes, I just called 300's violence tasteful, bite me!).

Rabid Toilet:

Melty Blood:
Dammit, once again I know nothing.

It happens to the best of us.

By the way; you, my friend, have just been learn'd.

Curse you, foiled again in my attempts at ignorance.

(And now, we return you to your regularly scheduled posting.)

wow this topic went way out there haha, from my question to a history lesson......cool. :)

Commentary: 300 made me want to hug violence, it was done so expertly. Like ROME, or Shoot 'Em Up. Well, maybe not Shoot 'Em Up...

Dorian Cornelius Jasper:
Indeed, what they say is true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae

Seriously, you kids REALLY need to pay more attention in world history class.

They may not have gotten that far in school yet...

I thought the amount of violence was just right, perfectly over the top, especially given how stylized the overall look was. And, it must be said, sexy as hell.

But the amount of dialog was too much. Or, let me amend that - the amount of Frank Miller's dialog was too much. Sometimes a screenwriter needs to step up and say, "Are you gonna rewrite that? Because I will if you don't wanna."

Here's me going all reverse-fangirl, so cover your eyes:

I have a big hate-on for Frank Miller. I don't see why all of the comic book world and half the movie industry insist on giving Miller's "genius" a handjob every time he sits down. Especially someone like Tarantino, whose dialog is generally awesome, why?

FRANK MILLER CANNOT WRITE DIALOG. ALSO, HIS ACTUAL DRAWING IS SO FUGLY IT MAKES MY EYES BLEED. PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE, STOP GIVING THIS MAN PENS!

He can do a pretty good voiceover/monologue/one of those squared-off exposition boxes in a comics frame. He can also pull off good zingers - "Then we will fight in the shade," that was a good one. But two people having a conversation rather than speechifying at one another? Forget about it. Pbbt.

By the way, my mother? LOVED this movie. It was all about Gerard Butler's well-oiled thighs for her. Apparently, my mom has a thing for War Porn. Who knew?

mshcherbatskaya:
He can also pull off good zingers - "Then we will fight in the shade," that was a good one.

Sorry to get back on my history horse, but that was an actual quote said at the battle of Thermopylae, when one of the Spartans was told about the number of archers the enemy had. Translated from Greek of course.

Sorry, I'll leave now. *scurries away*

I thought it was too violent.

mshcherbatskaya:
Here's me going all reverse-fangirl, so cover your eyes:

I have a big hate-on for Frank Miller. I don't see why all of the comic book world and half the movie industry insist on giving Miller's "genius" a handjob every time he sits down. Especially someone like Tarantino, whose dialog is generally awesome, why?

FRANK MILLER CANNOT WRITE DIALOG. ALSO, HIS ACTUAL DRAWING IS SO FUGLY IT MAKES MY EYES BLEED. PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE, STOP GIVING THIS MAN PENS!

He can do a pretty good voiceover/monologue/one of those squared-off exposition boxes in a comics frame. He can also pull off good zingers - "Then we will fight in the shade," that was a good one. But two people having a conversation rather than speechifying at one another? Forget about it. Pbbt.

QFT. I loathe the man and his style over substance crap. Oh and his pretty damn blatant sexism. I'm pretty flexible with sexism but he's just beyond the pale.

Larenxis:
Commentary: 300 made me want to hug violence, it was done so expertly. Like ROME, or Shoot 'Em Up. Well, maybe not Shoot 'Em Up...

Hey! Shoot 'Em Up was silly good fun.

Melty Blood:

Rabid Toilet:

Melty Blood:
Dammit, once again I know nothing.

It happens to the best of us.

By the way; you, my friend, have just been learn'd.

Curse you, foiled again in my attempts at ignorance.

(And now, we return you to your regularly scheduled posting.)

Don't beat yourself up. The first time I heard of the Battle of Thermopylae I thought it was a myth. It sounded so incredible that it couldn't possibly happen. Go figure.

If anything, I thought the film ended too abruptly. They could have done a lot more with the final day of the battle. But all in all a great film.

Easykill:
This. Is. Sparta.

What the hell is wrong with you? You don't mutter it under your breath like some serial-killer hiding in an ally right before he jumps on a girl ala Buffalo Bill, you shout it at the top of your lungs whilst heaving a bloody spear above your head (preferably with an enemies severed skull stuck to it. Leonidas gets away with no spear because he slo-mo kicked a guy into a hole). And when typing it, it must be in all caps followed be no less the three exclemation points.

Example: THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!

For your punishment, I sentence you to "re-education" by way of watching the movie no less the three times back to back. One viewing for every missed exclemation point.

Rabid Toilet:

mshcherbatskaya:
He can also pull off good zingers - "Then we will fight in the shade," that was a good one.

Sorry to get back on my history horse, but that was an actual quote said at the battle of Thermopylae, when one of the Spartans was told about the number of archers the enemy had. Translated from Greek of course.

Sorry, I'll leave now. *scurries away*

No! That's good! That's one less thing that Frank Miller gets to take credit for. *hates*

Saskwach:
QFT. I loathe the man and his style over substance crap. Oh and his pretty damn blatant sexism. I'm pretty flexible with sexism but he's just beyond the pale.

If you are trying to get me to adore you, it's working. I cannot possibly hate Miller more than he deserves, so any help you can lend me on that front is appreciated.

My opinions in the comic book area are, as you can see, rather strong.

I quite liked the violence level. Enough to prove the point, but not so much that it makes you squeamish for 10 minutes and then bored for the rest.

Chilango2:
It had not enough homoeroticism. This is Greece. There should be man-kissing.

Definately. More like the Leonidus-meets-Xerxes scene. That was almost too blatant.

AnGeL.SLayer:
Any more and it would start to be over kill I think.

So you saw Leonidus' death and still think there was no overkill?

mshcherbatskaya:

Rabid Toilet:

mshcherbatskaya:
He can also pull off good zingers - "Then we will fight in the shade," that was a good one.

Sorry to get back on my history horse, but that was an actual quote said at the battle of Thermopylae, when one of the Spartans was told about the number of archers the enemy had. Translated from Greek of course.

Sorry, I'll leave now. *scurries away*

No! That's good! That's one less thing that Frank Miller gets to take credit for. *hates*

Saskwach:
QFT. I loathe the man and his style over substance crap. Oh and his pretty damn blatant sexism. I'm pretty flexible with sexism but he's just beyond the pale.

If you are trying to get me to adore you, it's working. I cannot possibly hate Miller more than he deserves, so any help you can lend me on that front is appreciated.

My opinions in the comic book area are, as you can see, rather strong.

*My dastardly plan is working. I should keep this up.*
My first introduciton to Miller was through the Sin City movie. It's fun and all but it struck me as quite vicious for its own sake. A pretty dumb movie for teenage guys (and girls! I know some equally bloodthirsty ones) who liked their violence and their pretty pictures. Not that I'm not PART of that group but I can tell when I'm being appealed to at a base level. It's not hard to see the sexual stereotypes either. Omg prostitute warrior women! So hot. A kickass samurai chick. A woman who sleeps and walks around Marv naked. Jessica Alba as a helpless girl and then pole dancer who Big Bad Bruce must protect her entire life. Scanning the books I could see that the film was pretry loyal to its source. Frank Miller was stowed away as "style ove substance sexist pigdog who at least knows his gory violence". It sounds mean but I'm easy with the messages of a movie or comic as long as they're so overt and silly only already messed up idiots will take anything from them.
The final straw was when I found an article on some sort of design document he wrote for one of his latest Batman comics (not sure about that). It was a frame by frame description for his artist to follow along with the dialogue. With some creative googling you can find the article. Anywho, it's basically a scene where a reporter lady is talking on the phone in her lingerie about how hot batman and superman are. The gist of Miller's description is "do the panty shot. Now go closer. Now take in the bust. Yes I'm a dirty man but do it anyway." Again, I know guys like to be titilated but seriously, what?

qbert4ever:

Easykill:
This. Is. Sparta.

What the hell is wrong with you? You don't mutter it under your breath like some serial-killer hiding in an ally right before he jumps on a girl ala Buffalo Bill, you shout it at the top of your lungs whilst heaving a bloody spear above your head (preferably with an enemies severed skull stuck to it. Leonidas gets away with no spear because he slo-mo kicked a guy into a hole). And when typing it, it must be in all caps followed be no less the three exclemation points.

Example: THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!

For your punishment, I sentence you to "re-education" by way of watching the movie no less the three times back to back. One viewing for every missed exclemation point.

I suggest one viewing for every uncapitalised letter as well.