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Teh Nub
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Well I found this helpfull... ive been going after this girl who only considers me a friend for now for about a year now but I think ive finally made some progress this stuff should help keep posting though need s'more tips heh

Knight Templar
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Indigo_Dingo:
I'm fine with talking to girls, its just I don't know what to talk about with girls that I'm romantically interested in. There's a difference.

That's my problem.

Oh and Andraste your pointers were the only useful tips I found here, no offence everybody else.

Darth Mobius
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Drong:
School for scoundrels got it right and this is not something I agree with as I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic but it really does work.

The secret is: Lie, lie, lie and lie again.

I have a couple of freinds who are real lady killers, every time they go out together they invent new lives for themselves and blag to their cold little hearts content, I love them both, but though I would trust them to come save my life I would never trust them with a girl.
Funny thing is their lives are already interesting enough, one is a dancer on cruise ships and the other is a programmer from the uk who spends most of his time working in Barcelona and Madrid.
The dancer is worst out of the two, but he went to a dance college in london until he got expelled for dealing pot, living on campus as one of three guys in the year to 70 girls, he always joked of the other 2 guys that one was gay and the other was ugly.

Lying doesn't work, it is what got my ex-wife her ex- status... She couldn't tell the truth to save her life.

General Ma Chao
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The few nerd girls I ever run into always manage to say in the same breath that they have boyfriends. :(
I'm trying to overcome my social awkwardness but it's tough. My childhood has made me extremely quiet and distrustful of pretty much everyone. Thanks for the advice as it will help a lot.

Larenxis
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Let's see what I can do for you fellas. I'm sure you can assume that every person is different, and that nothing applies to everyone.

- Confidence is sexy, lack of confidence is endearing. Got to have a balance for a relationship, but if it's just a short term thing go for confidence.

- Lot's of eye contact and smiling. Don't scratch your ass or pick your nose.

- Be adaptive. If she doesn't like you poking her belly, stop it. If she doesn't like you making racist jokes, stop it. Often girls don't have the courage to tell you outright to stop, so pay attention to her face and tone.

- Compliment her. Things that are good to compliment: Eyes, hair, lips, skin, figure, intelligence, humour, grace, talents (singing, dancing etc), kindness. Things that should probably be avoided: Teeth, sweat glands, nostrils, cash flow, feet, taste in ex-boyfriends.

- Have anecdotes to tell. I know I love hearing little stories. Try to avoid being raunchy though.

- Know nice places to go. Coffee shops or lounges or arcades or meadows, depends on what the mood is, but try to be prepared. I hate it when it's cold out and the guy just says "I don't know."

- If it matches your personality, be a gentleman. Hold open doors, hold her in high regard, and defend her honour.

- If you get in an argument, pay close attention to if she's enjoying it or not. Sometimes it's good to playfully disagree, but if she's serious and you're not, you should probably back off.

- Find out what her favorite songs or bands are and listen to them. I know I adore it when someone quotes lyrics from a song I love.

- If there is alcohol, don't get drunker than her.

- If she has something in her teeth, instead of telling her or leaving it be the whole time, ask if you have something stuck in your teeth, it will make her aware without embarrassing her.

And now, I will bow out.

Darth Mobius
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The secret to overcoming social awkwardness for me was simply to walk up to a hot girl, tell her your name and ask her to join you (be it for a dance or a drink or whatever...). Yes, you will fail, a lot, but after ten or twenty attempts you will realize it doesn't matter because you don't know them, and it doesn't mean anything... Within thirty attempts, you should have a new friend...

Johnnyweird
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If I fail in a conversation with a female, I always try Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start.

It never works. :(

bulletproof12
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i hate to say it cause i honestly dont know what the hell it means but "be yourself" all the girls who i flirt with and potentialy go on dates with start it first. dont know how or what the hell i did, actualy i think i just sat there......odd....but yeah best shitty advice of all time.

and tip for keeping her happy if you dont give a shit about long term or self pride, be her bitch. amazing how many girls are happy with you doing there every whim, granted after a while of you being there servant odds are they will get tired of lack of challenge and move on but for a single day it can work.

and word of advice, girl always have the upper hand and know what is going on. i have never know what the hell i did or got myself into but apparantly i played right into there hands.

Fire Daemon
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Larenxis:
Don't scratch your ass or pick your nose.

I'll need to remember that one.

Darth Mobius
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Johnnyweird:
If I fail in a conversation with a female, I always try Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start.

It never works. :(

Yeah, because it is Up, Up, Down, Down, A, B, A, B, Start and Select at the same time...

Johnnyweird
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Darth Mobius:

Johnnyweird:
If I fail in a conversation with a female, I always try Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start.

It never works. :(

Yeah, because it is Up, Up, Down, Down, A, B, A, B, Start and Select at the same time...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code

Darth Mobius
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Sorry, I was thinking of a different code... Can't for the life of me remember what game it was though...

Secret_Ryo
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Well, i cant say have a problem with girls or getting with or dating. Its just i have a problem starting and keeping conversation.

For instance, I was walking home from work last week and i saw one of my brothers friends sitting in a coffee shop with two of her friends. She came outside and invited me in with her to have a drink. So i went and sat between her and one her friends. We started talking and i slowly started to notice that the girl next to me was absolutely beautiful. They asked me questions about general stuff and i felt that soon would be a good time to leave. So i gave a random excuse to leave, got my brothers friends number since i knew her the best and left. I asked her about her friend, that i thought was beautiful, and she said she would see what she could do to help her friend and i to date or whatever. So i now have the amazingly gorgeous girls facebook. and we have started talking, I just dont know what to talk about.

I have this problem all the time, there a few set questions i ask a girl at first just to get them talking,but after that, if we dont have any history together or have known each other, I have no more words. What do i say?

Programmed_For_Damage
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A key thing to keep in mind is that women can smell desperation a mile away. As stated so many times in this thread, act naturally, disinterested (in the fact you aren't trying to pick them up) and be honest and open about things and you'll find that women will feel very comfortable around you. When they are comfortable then they are more likely to be interested in you.
And learn how to be carefree and laugh. A recent survey showed that women are more likely to date someone with a sense of humour over someone who is good-looking.
Also, never, EVER think that you understand them because the moment that you "think" you do you will be proven wrong in a big way!

Darth Mobius
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Talk about things that you both are interested in... I taught my ex-wife and Girlfriend about cars because they both learned within minutes of meeting me that Obsessed didn't begin to cover how much I love cars... I have had a few chances to show them things, but only because they wanted to learn. If you don't have any interests in common, ask them about stuff that you know absolutely nothing about... And admit stuff that will get you ostracized by your guy friends.. Hell, I like figure skating. That goes over well with some ladies... But definitely NOT with the guys... And yes, I do occasionally enjoy the odd Chick Flick... But again, not with most guys... My metro friend and I used to talk about different chick flicks we liked because we were man enough to know that you have to watch them with the ladies every once in a while...

Secret_Ryo
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that helps a little. I mean we have had very little conversation thus far and even if we have been talking a a bit over the internet, should we ever go out for coffee, i know she likes coffee, then should i herl question after question, or just sit there like a semi-retarded chimp with my thumb up my ass. and yes "acting casual and natural helps" but i am a semi quiet guy, and shy. What do i ask, and should i go with one question and bronch off and such

Jallil Vlos
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I'd have to say to talk to women, and I should know because I am one, Honesty works...as does blind luck.

When I first met Mobius way back when, I'd been at the pool and challanging a few of the guys to see who had the better balance, not to mention leg strength, to keep themselves seated on a floating, slick shark. I'd been winning, and was dry from my waist up, Mobius saw me, and even though I didn't see him he just swam over in time that when he reached me, two guys forced my left leg off the shark and tried to toss me into the water. I literally fell into Mobius' arms, and after my tongue tied moment, have been talking to him ever since. If he'd not been at the pool that day, I most likely would have never met him. That's one moment Lady Luck determined to smile upon me with a bit of her good graces.

Jallil Vlos
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Secret_Ryo:
that helps a little. I mean we have had very little conversation thus far and even if we have been talking a a bit over the internet, should we ever go out for coffee, i know she likes coffee, then should i herl question after question, or just sit there like a semi-retarded chimp with my thumb up my ass. and yes "acting casual and natural helps" but i am a semi quiet guy, and shy. What do i ask, and should i go with one question and bronch off and such

Actually just ask her what some of her hobbies are. Sometimes you may even have to mention some of your own. Or ask her what one of her favorite movies of all times is. Dont just sit there and drool though. That's got "Eww, run" all over it. And dont bombard her with to many questions. Start casual, and see where things go. If things feel strained, back off, and ask if she wants to know anything special about you.

Secret_Ryo
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Jallil Vlos:
If he'd not been at the pool that day, I most likely would have never met him. That's one moment Lady Luck determined to smile upon me with a bit of her good graces.

ANd this is all how i kinda met this girl.. I had got off early from work thanks to the generosity of my manager, and i decided to take the sunny side of the street since it was a really nice day that day. so all those little coincidences and choices led me to meeting her.

Jallil Vlos
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Sounds like you, myself, your gal and Mobius have a lot in common. But what problems are you having when you try to talk to her? As i said before in my earlier post, sometimes the best way for a conversation to start is just with the little things.

Darth Mobius
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All I can tell you is that there is only one way to find out... And I know from experience... Can't list all of the names, but 26 different girlfriends... 34 different relationships... And one failed marriage. I have a lot of experience. If a girl rejects you, or it doesn't work, there will ALWAYS be more. So if she finds it weird that you play WoW for 20 hours every day you don't work.... Well, you need help, but you will eventually meet a girl who DOES enjoy it too... Ask Jallil what some of our mutual interests include, and some of the things she likes to do that I will gladly go along for even though I don't really care for it... (Hint: I am still afraid of bikes since I broke my fingers when I was 15, but I will gladly go biking just to be with her...)

Secret_Ryo
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The main problem is that when she answers i feel like i have nothing more. its like "ok.. u answered the question... on to the next?" i mean what do i do with her answer.

Darth Mobius
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Tell her your opinion... Help me with this one honey...

I don't have any good examples...

Jallil Vlos
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That happens. I used to be like that to. Best thing to do when an ackward silence falls, pick something you know a lot about. One way or another, you should spark her interest in something she likes and she'll probably talk your ear off. I'm guilty of that. Computers are my strong point, but when it comes to most things about cars, I'm better off leaving them to my boyfriend or someone at Jiffy Lube

Darth Mobius
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Oh yeah... And she likes games, too... How lucky am I?

Secret_Ryo
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i guess i would have to know what she is really into to get her to go off like that. i love it when girls dont stop talking, i am a better listener than anything, so i just need to get her to talk and i would be set.

Dam freaking lucky

Darth Mobius
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As I said, even if you have nothing in common, pick the thing she is interested in that you know the least about. Chances are it will be an oppurtunity to get her to talk non-stop because she will have to explain what it is... And that always leads to funny stories, and before you know it, you have a new hobby to try with her, and she will be at ease because you got her to open up without too much weedling...

Jallil Vlos
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What that I'm a gamer? Lets see, I own Resident Evil, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3: Nemisis, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Code Veronica Aka Resident Evil Bio Hazard, Resident Evil Dead Aim, Resident Evil Outbreak files one and two, and Resident Evil Deadly Silence for the Nintendo DS. PLUS I own a ton of other RPG's. God of War, Time Crisis 2, Parasite Eve 1 and 2...should i go on? That's only the tip of my game list!

I also own a crap load of Computer games, a couple of Xbox ones...scratch the xbox games...my Ex sold those, and I'm currently trying to get my hands on Final Fantasy XII. I had 170 hours on the game and when I left my Husband, he sold it AND the memory card the file was on.

Secret_Ryo
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thank you

Darth Mobius
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Don't mind her, she thinks Resident Evil has a good story... But you are welcome. As others have said, definitely not a master, but more experience than I care to elaborate on...

Oh yeah, and you HAVE to be yourself. The Resident Evil joke just came naturally to me. If you can't make fun of her in a light hearted manner like that from the start, she will think you have no sense of humor.... BUT, for all that is holy, DO NOT FORCE IT. If you don't have a joke, so be it, but if you see the opportunity, let it fly. If she doesn't laugh, she may next time...

Secret_Ryo
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lol, well i have experience, but i am in a funk. i used to be so natural around girls and all my friends called me a ladies man. but since i broke up with my Ex i seem to have lost that sparkle that was there

Darth Mobius
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Yeah, that was me too... Sometimes it is for the best. Jallil and I have had some problems getting and staying together, but the funk I was in for the last seven months made it all the more important to me that I not screw things up with her this time...

(You know, it is really awkward talking about a woman I have loved for almost five years and not using her real name...)

Jallil Vlos
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Well if it wasn't for the fact i'm a Milla Jovovich look alike *laughs* You'd not say that. And i know, so i'm going to head to bed. Night guys. Ryo, i hope things get better with you and your girl.

as for screwing things up, we had our...other halves to contend with. Those are gone now, and it's just us. Trust me Ryo, if you love her, you'll find something to get her to speak to you freely. Somethings, and i mean this, somethings take more time than others, and some take falling flat on your face to figure out what you have to do to make things work.

talon92
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bulletproof12:
and word of advice, girl always have the upper hand and know what is going on. i have never know what the hell i did or got myself into but apparantly i played right into there hands.

very VERY true. girls have this crazy way of understanding EVERYTHING!!! dont even try to comprehend it... they dont even know they do it. doesnt really help us guys much cause it just makes us realise how monumental a task we have before us but..hey....its good to know.

Lord Krunk
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Yeah...I've never been successful with girls.

In any case there were 2 snags for both my exes: Communism and Friends.

See, my first girlfriend was my female counterpart, but her friends kept getting in the way.

Firstly, the majority of them were emo/goths, of whom I loathe with a vengeance. They loathed me back, as a result.
Secondly, one of her best friends had a bf, who was an "acquaintance" at school. (VERY influential. Bad things happen to me when he's around.)
And Lastly, we had one thing we conflicted over: Communism. She was extreme right wing, I am extreme left-wing. BAD RESULTS. She also played Guitar Hero. I say, if you want to devote your time to a game like that, get a real guitar! She thought I was crazy.

My second "girlfriend" was a similar disaster in many ways. I met her, I liked her, and soon enough, we spent most of our time together. Her friends never got in the way, but my friends did.
See, she consulted my friend about something, and I asked what afterwards. He said "She's seeing another guy." Soon after, I got cranky, and a bit depressed. She didn't really like it, and when ANOTHER argument popped up regarding Communism, and I got worked up about it, she got a bit worked up too. Eventually, we parted ways, and later on, I was told that she was actually asking my friend whether I wanted to be her gf.
We never actually kissed or romanticized, but I sure wanted to, and my idiocy screwed it up. I could have gone out with her if I wanted to.

Anyway, from my experience, here's some Do's and Don'ts.

DO

1) Talk to her and find out her own "Do's and Don'ts."

2) ALWAYS keep her involved. Find things to immerse yourselves in together (E.g. Tag teaming in games like Tekken or Battlefront, or finding conversations that she can involve herself with. I mentioned Day of the Tentacle, and a lot of hot girls turned to me and said "I LOVED THAT GAME!")

DO NOT

1) Be Left-wing. Big Mistake.

2) Be a dickhead. I mean, don't make her royalty, but don't exclude her either. Be a good, loyal friend.

3) Lie. Lying leads to chaos, and to quote Psychonauts: "Or Worse. IMPROV!"

4) Listen to anyone outside your relationship regarding it. Chinese Whispers screw relationships up, and you can never trust anyone.

5) Piss off her friends, or neglect your own friends for the sake of a relationships. Friends are very influential. Be influential back, or you have no hope. There are 3 things that people deem me:

Annoying

A Target

Likeable

Find people who deem you in the latter category.

Please heed my advice, and give me some, as I need it. Sometimes, though, it's best to learn lessons the hard way.

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