BlazeTheVampire:
In Toledo, best I get is "Gurrrrl, you got a fine ass."

LOL. In Houston, I'm lucky I get English. Or words, period.

Iuchiban2525:
The number one way to impress a female: learn how to cook. I'm not talking macaroni&cheese or hamburgers or something; if you can consistently make creme brulee or quiche (neither of which are expensive or difficult to prepare), women will love you forever, whether its' someone you're trying to woo or your grandmother.

The only snag I've ever hit with this was my fiancee's mother accusing me of fattening her daughter up so no other men will look at her (she's up to a whopping 120 lbs. Oh Noes!). So loony in-laws aside, its' great.

I think general domestic competence and self-sufficiency is always a desirable trait in a potential significant other. Not only learn to cook, but make sure your place is clean and tidy when she comes over. If your apartment looks like a badly organized electronics store, she's not going to want to sleep there.

mshcherbatskaya:

Iuchiban2525:
The number one way to impress a female: learn how to cook. I'm not talking macaroni&cheese or hamburgers or something; if you can consistently make creme brulee or quiche (neither of which are expensive or difficult to prepare), women will love you forever, whether its' someone you're trying to woo or your grandmother.

The only snag I've ever hit with this was my fiancee's mother accusing me of fattening her daughter up so no other men will look at her (she's up to a whopping 120 lbs. Oh Noes!). So loony in-laws aside, its' great.

I think general domestic competence and self-sufficiency is always a desirable trait in a potential significant other. Not only learn to cook, but make sure your place is clean and tidy when she comes over. If your apartment looks like a badly organized electronics store, she's not going to want to sleep there.

I have to disagree, but I'm probably the exception. I love to cook, and whats more, I love it when people want me to cook. So, I prefer men who aren't as good at cooking as I am (makes me feel superior, I guess....*sigh*), and I like the electronics. Just as long as cups and plates aren't molding, I think I'm okay.

Lupie:

JOE COOL:
The only way to get a date anymore is to complement a girl and then walk away.

If she doesen't walk over to you in the next 10 seconds then she didn't like the complement or she thinks otherwise.

You should also get all 7 digits!

You: Hello. You have beautiful thighs.
-walk, walk, walk-
Girl: ... D:

Have you seriously done this? If so, man, you're a legend.

I'm no legend but yes I have done that. I'd been walking past this same girl for months on my way to work and she'd been gradually losing a lot of weight. We'd never done more than nod at each other in a polite Australian greeting. Till this one day I walked past and said "Wow, you're looking great" and then just kept walking. The ignoring her thing combined with the compliment actually did something to her and I later had to get rid of a clinger :(

Everyone has covered the point and I feel that any additional posts on this thread are just killing the issue but my own techniques:

* I tell myself every day that I am awesome. This does two things, it gives me a confidence boost and it provides a point of laughter later on.
* I was blessed with what is called a killer smile in the past year or so - a direct link to my confidence, so I make sure that it is out there all the time.
* Every woman I meet is called poppet, makes them feel special. If I don't think it will fly I remember there names and use them often (more names == more specialness for her. I don't know why)
* MAKE THEM LAUGH. This is most important. I always throw out the smile with a corny joke or a chance to say I'm awesome, and when they start to giggle I draw attention to it "See! Making you laugh! Told you" which expedites the problem etc.

On the topic of gamer chicks, I have to say "don't". I've definitely had some great girlfriends in the past who were gamers - one I can remember sitting on my lap while I played her through that first ATC section in F.E.A.R. where the ATC Sec Guys are shooting at you - but they're just crazy (sorry ladies but its true!). Ok a crazy one-nighter isn't a problem, and if you're into those kinky things then ok probably not an issue either, but in terms of a long term relationship I've just never found a gamer girl capable of doing it.

This is probably because of the high ratio of guys to girls in gaming groups - pick of the bunch and the grass is always greener etc.

Be yourself is an overdone cliche, so is be confident. If you're going to lie through your teeth make sure you have a memory for that sort of thing and don't go to a bar you've been to recently. Try to take a few seconds to get to know what the girl will like before you even go talk to her. Also, if you pick a girl in a bar and fail with her, you're generally done for the next twenty minutes. Don't immediately turn to her friend and start making moves - they all see what you're doing and feeling like the "second chance" just sucks.

And finally, seriously, it just happens. I never believed it would but I'm now ten months into a relationship with a girl I went to highschool with and hadn't seen in four years. Would never have thought it but here I am.

So that's the advice of a guy who spent 4 years going through a different woman each weekend. Take it as you will, maybe it just works for me.

Edit:

hairdo2000:
I can tell you being, pasty, white and generally an unpleasant person to be around, if I can get some by just introducing my self to every one, you can too.

I dunno man, the whole nerd look seems to be becoming the thing - as you get older things move from "can I get laid tonight" (for both genders) to "Would this person make a good partner?". I see a lot of "geeks" get older and then become the toast of the bar because the chicks know that they're going to be smart, not really going to cheat and be a good partner. Check out wired's article a while ago for a good run-down on the thoughts for geeks there, I'm not going to risk posting the link so google for "wired.com why geeks make better lovers" if you are interested.

rayxofxsunshine:

I think general domestic competence and self-sufficiency is always a desirable trait in a potential significant other. Not only learn to cook, but make sure your place is clean and tidy when she comes over. If your apartment looks like a badly organized electronics store, she's not going to want to sleep there.

I have to disagree, but I'm probably the exception. I love to cook, and whats more, I love it when people want me to cook. So, I prefer men who aren't as good at cooking as I am (makes me feel superior, I guess....*sigh*), and I like the electronics. Just as long as cups and plates aren't molding, I think I'm okay.

There's that, too. Some people feel more comfortable in a chaotic environment, but generally I would say that moderately clean and tidy (and I did say "badly organized" electronics store) is a good default. It goes the other way too, gender-wise. I had a roommate who I described as a katamari, which is to say, she just seemed to roll through life accumulating astonishing amounts of crap, and the look of dismay on the faces of the guys she dated, when she brought them home the first time and they realized they were going to have to crapwalk to and from the bed was just...ohhhh noooo. I'm also a bit of a slob, and that used to drive my girlfriends crazy too, and I'm sure there are girls I didn't get to know because they found my home environment to be to, well, neglected.

Not that this really speaks to the original topic, which is how to get to know them so that you can show them your clean apartment and your cooking skills.

Cheeze and a few others mentioned this, but I think it bears reiterating. She is a person with ideas and a history and desires of her own. A lot of this thread sounds like people giving tips on how to get past a level boss. She is not a game you can play through if you just figure out all the maps and practice a lot. There are no walkthroughs, no cheat codes, and even if you do everything right, whatever "everything" and "right" happen to be, she doesn't owe you anything, not her approval, not her time, not her attention, not anything.

This is not a game you can win. Because it's not a game. And I'm not saying this as some snotty sideways slam on gamers, I'm saying this as in, "Relax, it's not a win/lose unless you make it that way, it's just an experience." Try not trying to figure her out. Try not trying to work the angles. Try not trying to say the Right Thing. She's a person. She's not all the girls from your past and she's not every girl you will ever meet. That's all. Try not trying so hard. Take a deep breath and just hang out for a bit. It's so crazy, it just might work.

When I forget to try and impress a girl and I'm talking about stuff in the spazzy way I do when I'm geeking, I always hear afterwards that she thought I was really cool. The minute I realize there is Liking and maybe even Dating at stake, I get all worried about fucking it up, and then of course, I fuck it up. I really need to get more Buddhist about the whole thing--quit attaching my ego to a desired result and just, I dunno, live my life or something.

Erana:
Well, any self-respecting female will completely ignore men who rant.

I don't know. Maybe there's a few out there who don't mind borderline skitzophrenics with mild Tourette syndrome.

just play it cool man, finally asked this one girl out to dinner, we've been friend for a year or so, so we shall see how that goes

Johnnyweird:
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start.

Cheating doesn't allow me to get 100%...

And in all seriousness, without actually have dated, or asking a girl out, I'd can't recommend anything.... Maybe a free drink?... Oh, wait, I just realised something...

If you have not dated by about age 19, then you probably wont in my opinion

it comes down to experience with women, the older you get, the more they expect and the harder it gets to 'break in'

i could be wrong (it is opinion after all, perhaps some women see past this), but i could be right, and for any who find my words a little close to home; its not to late for an epic save

Actually, I think Ultrajoe has a point there... the older anybody gets, the more they expect out of each other in a relationship. Not just women. Standards get raised the older you become. That isn't say to that someone who's never been in a relationship before has no chance whatsoever (that was a bit of a leap), but that someone who's never been in a relationship is going to have a few more issues than someone who has. I, however, have limited wisdom, and can't think of anything to try and help the poor bastard who's never dated before...

mshcherbatskaya:
A lot of this thread sounds like people giving tips on how to get past a level boss. She is not a game you can play through if you just figure out all the maps and practice a lot. There are no walkthroughs, no cheat codes, and even if you do everything right, whatever "everything" and "right" happen to be, she doesn't owe you anything, not her approval, not her time, not her attention, not anything.

This is not a game you can win. Because it's not a game. And I'm not saying this as some snotty sideways slam on gamers, I'm saying this as in, "Relax, it's not a win/lose unless you make it that way, it's just an experience." Try not trying to figure her out. Try not trying to work the angles. Try not trying to say the Right Thing. She's a person. She's not all the girls from your past and she's not every girl you will ever meet. That's all. Try not trying so hard. Take a deep breath and just hang out for a bit. It's so crazy, it just might work.

When I forget to try and impress a girl and I'm talking about stuff in the spazzy way I do when I'm geeking, I always hear afterwards that she thought I was really cool. The minute I realize there is Liking and maybe even Dating at stake, I get all worried about fucking it up, and then of course, I fuck it up. I really need to get more Buddhist about the whole thing--quit attaching my ego to a desired result and just, I dunno, live my life or something.

First of all, comparing the way people think of girls to the way they think about a level boss was *awesome*

Second, you got me thinking: I wonder if the reason there's so much unrequited love is that people who aren't trying to impress someone wind up creating interest in that person for them if there was any spark of attraction.

Maybe we wind up liking the ones that aren't interested in use so often isn't bad luck, but a kind of 'natural selection': out of the pool of people we feel an attraction to, the ones that aren't interested in us are the ones that act the coolest and the most natural because they're not trying to impress us which comes from them not being attracted back towards us in the first place.

A lot of this thread sounds like people giving tips on how to get past a level boss

Why do I suddenly have the Zelda "DADADA-DAHH!" music in my head now?

Erana:
Well, any self-respecting female will completely ignore men who rant.

Well, my gf loves to hear me rant and asks me sometimes; then I listen to her rant; so nyeh.

-Look clean.

- Be a good listener.

-Say hi. Don't try to be overly unique with a 'line'. It comes off obvious and sometimes kind of creepy. I had a guy come up to me in the supermarket last month and he asked me what was good there and if I had a fast metabolism (because I'm not fat?). I ignored him because it came off weird and obvious. Just start off with hi. It's normal. I do have a boyfriend, but I'm much friendlier if you don't creep me out. Which brings me to my next point.

-Don't follow. For some reason, a bunch of guys who hit on me decide to follow me around first. Out of the gym, out of stores, followed around the supermarket, etc. One guy had followed me a bit because he was too shy to come up to me. Don't do that. Be confident. It will creep her out less. :)

-If you're very young, don't worry, time and experience do help.

That's about it.

this is why prostitution will never be illegal, chicks mess you up in the head man, mess you up bad, prostitutes are cheaper in the long run.

Cheaper in the short run too.... Unless you like the High-Class Executive hookers, then it is only a long term investment. I was married for two and a half years and lost over $7,000. I could have had an Executive for the night for cheaper than my marriage and subsequent divorce... And when you count Child support... My Executive level hooker could have lived with me for a Year before I started losing out in the long run...

Darth Mobius:
Cheaper in the short run too.... Unless you like the High-Class Executive hookers, then it is only a long term investment. I was married for two and a half years and lost over $7,000. I could have had an Executive for the night for cheaper than my marriage and subsequent divorce... And when you count Child support... My Executive level hooker could have lived with me for a Year before I started losing out in the long run...

and so it is decided; how to talk to girls.

"how much"

the end

Anything under a thousand a night is a good deal...

And Joe, where have you been? I missed you man!

That is the one good thing about US frat parties - less of a need to actually talk to girls...
I find however that its a good thing to have close female friends who you are not romantically interested in, they can purposely or not talk you up to girls before you actually meet them. All my gfs have come about through a mutual female friend. Although, having close female friends itself requires talking to girls :S aaaaaagh a paradox!

um i am a freshman and high school and have never had a girlfriend before there is a girl who i like and i think she likes me.my question is how would i ask her out like what would i say to her.serious responses please...

Dcarty745:
um i am a freshman and high school and have never had a girlfriend before there is a girl who i like and i think she likes me.my question is how would i ask her out like what would i say to her.serious responses please...

Uh...go up to her and say "Would you like to go out sometime?". Really is that easy.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Dcarty745:
um i am a freshman and high school and have never had a girlfriend before there is a girl who i like and i think she likes me.my question is how would i ask her out like what would i say to her.serious responses please...

Uh...go up to her and say "Would you like to go out sometime?". Really is that easy.

Thats all? I thought it would be more complex...

Xwii360:
Walk up there grab her ass and go, is that a mirror in your pants cuz I can see myself in them.

You'll defiantly be able to hit that.

I laughed so much over that lol

Dcarty745:

The_root_of_all_evil:

Dcarty745:
um i am a freshman and high school and have never had a girlfriend before there is a girl who i like and i think she likes me.my question is how would i ask her out like what would i say to her.serious responses please...

Uh...go up to her and say "Would you like to go out sometime?". Really is that easy.

Thats all? I thought it would be more complex...

The complex bit is getting the nerve up, not stumbling over the words, and then waiting the millenia (ten seconds) until she answers.

I did nothing

How to talk to girls:

Open mouth. Form speech.

DONE

Ultrajoe:
If you have not dated by about age 19, then you probably wont in my opinion

it comes down to experience with women, the older you get, the more they expect and the harder it gets to 'break in'

i could be wrong (it is opinion after all, perhaps some women see past this), but i could be right, and for any who find my words a little close to home; its not to late for an epic save

LIES! I started dating when I was 20!

Ultrajoe:
Its not to late for an epic save

The thread above this at the time of posting was called, "Why is EPIC the only descriptive word that people use nowadays?"

I probably won't date... ever. It's a combination of a bad reputation, bad social life, bad genes (I happen to be a carrier of the "Psycho" gene, acquired from my mother. I hasn't really affected me yet, but I need to put some chlorine in the gene pool.)

Haliwali:
I probably won't date... ever. It's a combination of a bad reputation, bad social life, bad genes (I happen to be a carrier of the "Psycho" gene, acquired from my mother. I hasn't really affected me yet, but I need to put some chlorine in the gene pool.)

You putting the words "P