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LV Solace
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true, I don't like people who change them selves, I was only pointing it out, because most guys I know don't like to hear that there isn't much they can do.

Although AnGeL you make a good point, and I'm really not the best person to be giving advice, I'm not a very common girl, I'm very odd. So my opinions are flawed, you make a better point.

DigestiveBiscuit
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Labyrinth:
Bad treatment is anything which, rather than boosting my ego or actually being a deserved criticism, is aimed to make one feel less important. Oh, and prejudice.

I think stereotyping, and more specifically, acting upon it, is probably the quickest route out. The problem is, I find most of the anti-stereotypers stereotype other people. Typically with the statement of "I don't mean to sound racist..." or "I'm not a racist or anything". I use temporary individual stereotypes for people until I get to know them better; it works better than starting from scratch.

Labyrinth:
And fuck those sunnies. I have stylish, matrix-like sunglasses for when I want to feel chic.

I haven't found any shades that work for me. But I tend to just end up messing around with them anyway, like flipping between shade and normal. I do the same sort of thing with night-vision in games - bright green, super dark, bright green, dead.

New General Questions:
Has it been known that girls will temporarily avoid someone, but still secretly like them?
Is it right to be suspicious of a surprise outing (after one conversation) on a 'friends only' standing? What do you think is going on?
Would you abandon your family to be with someone?
Would you abandon your friends to be with someone?
In your opinion, what is a surefire way to tell 'it is down the plughole'?
Could I get fries with that?

All opinions welcome. I work better with more opinions - even if they contradict!

LV Solace
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alright DBiscuit, I can help on someof the general questions you have.

I've been known to avoid someone I liked, another girl, because I thought she could tell and I wasn't (ever) ready to tell her. So it could be embarresment, or we could just be doing it subconciously.

For the second there, you got invited to a suprise "friends only" outing after a single converstaion with girl X? If I'm right I would be suspicious, an I'm not sure what I'd do.

Yes I would abandon my family.

No I would not abandon my friends.

Not familiar witht hat phrase, and I'm not sure I should be.

No, no you may not.

So hope those help.

Cheeze_Pavilion
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AnGeL.SLayer:

As for short guys, that's mainly a girls personal taste. Usually a girl doesn't like to go out with a guy shorter than her. She likes that being held and feeling protected kinda thing. But if a girl will over look you just for being short then she has some self esteem issues.

It that were true girls would also like going out with *wide* guys, too, and that's not the case.

I don't think girls necessarily over look guys for being short, it's just that short (or wide or whatever) don't turn them on. And if someone doesn't turn you on, well, better she turn you down early on than go out with you trying to overlook that fact because of other things about you. Whether it makes someone shallow or not, everyone wants to be happy. And being with someone who doesn't turn you on doesn't lead to happiness. Not saying the person has to be gorgeous, just that on a purely physical level they need to turn you on to some extent or it'll all go very badly sooner or later.

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Gitsnik
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Ok some of these answered thoughts I had, some of them didn't. Maybe I've missed a few posts. This might also have something to do with AnGeL.SLayer's comment on feeling protected but:

What's with staying with a guy who treats a woman with a less than standard attitude? I think most geeks have thought this from time to time, most guys on the internet or whatever, but I just do not understand it.

And yep, for the record, I'm currently dealing with this situation with a friend of mine.

CatcherJJ
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Cheeze_Pavilion:

AnGeL.SLayer:

As for short guys, that's mainly a girls personal taste. Usually a girl doesn't like to go out with a guy shorter than her. She likes that being held and feeling protected kinda thing. But if a girl will over look you just for being short then she has some self esteem issues.

It that were true girls would also like going out with *wide* guys, too, and that's not the case.

I don't think girls necessarily over look guys for being short, it's just that short (or wide or whatever) don't turn them on. And if someone doesn't turn you on, well, better she turn you down early on than go out with you trying to overlook that fact because of other things about you. Whether it makes someone shallow or not, everyone wants to be happy. And being with someone who doesn't turn you on doesn't lead to happiness. Not saying the person has to be gorgeous, just that on a purely physical level they need to turn you on to some extent or it'll all go very badly sooner or later.

I'd tend to agree with that. I even go as far as saying girls go more for looks than guys do when looking for a potential date. But it's not to say being good-looking is the only thing that matters. There's been guys I've know that are ass-ugly but got some smoking hot chicks because they presented themselves well. Working out and being kind of athletic looking don't hurt our chances either.

Cheeze_Pavilion
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CatcherJJ:

I'd tend to agree with that. I even go as far as saying girls go more for looks than guys do when looking for a potential date.

I think I'd certainly agree that women place a lot more importance on looks than is acknowledged. Doesn't make them 'shallow' or 'bitches'; just makes them, well, 'human.'

A little bit tangential, but you'd probably enjoy this article: How economics and game theory explain the shortage of available, appealing men

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The_root_of_all_evil
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Cheeze_Pavilion:

A little bit tangential, but you'd probably enjoy this article: How economics and game theory explain the shortage of available, appealing men

Ah, Slate, I don't read that anymore after their 'tribute' to Gary Gygax.

(Some a-hole decided that he'd take GG's death as an excuse to blame him for everything wrong with Dungeons and Dragons)

Sparkly Weasel
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How do I start a conversation at school without coming off as creepy. The fact that I'm about 2 feet taller than all the girls I see may have something to do with it.

AnGeL.SLayer
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...I was saying that girls tend to look for a guy that can offer her a different level of comfort and feeling of protection. Theres nothing quite like behind held in the arms of a guy you like/love, nothing. Being a guy who's taller/bigger than her tends to help that feeling hit home. Each girl has her own personal perspective on the matter. My friend Kara loves clean cut guys, I like them to be a bit more rugged. Thats just our personal tastes. I prefer rugged but I'd never turn down a clean cut guy just because he was clean cut. Especially if his first impression makes me raise an eyebrow or smile.

If you all you guys think all women base solely on looks then no wonder you hate us all. Some girls are shallow but not all of them. Your going to get a lot of girls, especially all you high school guys, who will/wont go out with you purely on looks. Thats because they still have a lot of growing up to do. This all goes for a lot of guys as well.

Talking someone into a date is a whole bundle of things you have to get just right. You have to appeal to their better nature. You have to get them thinking and having a good time BEFORE you ask them out again. First impressions can't be redone with a reset button.

^_^

Darth Mobius
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My ex-girlfriend Joanna said she normally went for the grungy guys, but she liked me more because I looked so good clean cut... So even if a girl likes the grungy guys, or clean cut guys, doesn't mean she won't like the other type, just that it isn't her usual choice...

RipperjackAU
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MMORPG = Many Men Online Role Playing Girls

GIRL = Guy In Real Life.

So, why do girls keep protesting that they play these games, when in fact they do not?

I mean if they did play, all they can get out of it is sleepless nights, hordes of lonely, horny teenage losers hitting on them and continually running into lesbians... ahh... Oh, I think I may have found the answer to my question.

Darth Mobius
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Yeah, that is why my ex-wife played online... She liked being hit on by boys whose balls hadn't dropped because she had boobs...

ti_red
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Fire Daemon:

Chaos Marine:
I have actually experimented with that before and discovered I am straight. The promise of the male prostate being incredible when manipulated did not live up to the hype.

A bit like halo 3.

Anyway, what you need to do is try and find a nice girl and take it slow. Well thats my opinion anyway.

Haha, perfect.

I also had to sign up to say that "I can't believe this thread is being taken seriously." A few posts at the beginning were great, then girls started actually commenting on what they thought were real questions. I should have known it would have turned into a Sex war.

Girlysprite
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Sex war! Roll out the cannons!

...Somehow I suddenly get a Freudian hunch over my last sentence.

Allright, lets turn the tables.

What do you guys think about pink shirts? I ask this because regularly I see guys wearing them. Seems to be the new guy fashion color.

Hey Joe
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Question for girls: Does your arse look fat in that dress?

Dealin Burgers
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Whats the best quality a guy can have?
also, Whats the best job a guy can have to impress you?

Ultrajoe
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Girlysprite:
Sex war! Roll out the cannons!

...Somehow I suddenly get a Freudian hunch over my last sentence.

Allright, lets turn the tables.

What do you guys think about pink shirts? I ask this because regularly I see guys wearing them. Seems to be the new gay fashion color.

corrected

Cheeze_Pavilion
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AnGeL.SLayer:
...I was saying that girls tend to look for a guy that can offer her a different level of comfort and feeling of protection. Theres nothing quite like behind held in the arms of a guy you like/love, nothing. Being a guy who's taller/bigger than her tends to help that feeling hit home.

It doesn't though, for most girls. Far more girls get that feeling from a tall guy than a big guy. Not only that, but the tall guys girls *do* seem to like are actually the guys who are are tall in the way that they don't look like they'd be good at protecting anything--girls tend to like guys who are tall and *skinny* more than guys who are tall and athletic.

If you all you guys think all women base solely on looks then no wonder you hate us all.

No, we just think girls pretend like they base their decisions to a lesser extent on looks than guys do. Big difference.

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Cheeze_Pavilion
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Girlysprite:

What do you guys think about pink shirts? I ask this because regularly I see guys wearing them. Seems to be the new guy fashion color.

If you're trying that hard, you're trying *too* hard.

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Spacelord
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When is a man's penis too small?

Lord Krunk
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Umm, I think this thread is going a bit too far.

Anyway, my question.

I have a tendency for bad luck with girls, resulting in depression and mass food eating tendencies (which does not reflect how thin I am. I'm 15 and weigh 55kg, a sign of anorexia). As well as the obsession that whenever the phone rings, it's "her" again, even when we haven't talked in 3 months. My self esteem isn't very good though; I spend most of my time trying to be unnoticed. Unsuccessfully.

Naturally, these are stereotypes that are usually pointed at the female gender. It makes me wonder: have we got it all wrong? In times of desperation, do females turn to the food stores for consolation?

guyy
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AnGeL.SLayer:
As for if a girl likes you...well she will flirt among other things. The best thing you can do is ask her or come out and say you like her. You'd be surprised how many times it just never occurs to a girl that she likes a guy until its brought up. Once you get her thinking about it she wont get the idea off her mind. Don't be hurt if she says no. You shouldn't take it so personal. Perhaps she doesn't know you well enough yet. Just keep friends and you may be surprised how well she reacts to the fact that you can still be friends after her turning you down.

^_^

...Are you psychic?

Actually I hope not, because that would mean this could be a trick.

[/conspiracy theorist mode]

BlazeTheVampire
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Lord Krunk:

Naturally, these are stereotypes that are usually pointed at the female gender. It makes me wonder: have we got it all wrong? In times of desperation, do females turn to the food stores for consolation?

Well, all stereotypes have a basis somewhere. Honestly though, it varies from person to person. My friend gorged herself on Oreos, ice cream, and anything unusually greasy when she was depressed, but I found I couldn't eat at all without puking it back up.

Although I recommend not doing the gorging thing: my dad used to be all skinny with a high metabolism too- he'd eat a whole pizza by himself. But now he's got a wonderful beer/pizza belly that he can't seem to get rid of, lol.

Lord Krunk
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BlazeTheVampire:

Lord Krunk:

Naturally, these are stereotypes that are usually pointed at the female gender. It makes me wonder: have we got it all wrong? In times of desperation, do females turn to the food stores for consolation?

Well, all stereotypes have a basis somewhere. Honestly though, it varies from person to person. My friend gorged herself on Oreos, ice cream, and anything unusually greasy when she was depressed, but I found I couldn't eat at all without puking it back up.

Although I recommend not doing the gorging thing: my dad used to be all skinny with a high metabolism too- he'd eat a whole pizza by himself. But now he's got a wonderful beer/pizza belly that he can't seem to get rid of, lol.

Thanks for the help. Unforunately, eating is a bit of a habit for me once I get started. It's a subconscious thing for me. Anyways, I'll at lest attempt to replace chips with lettuce, see if that helps.

BlazeTheVampire
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Lord Krunk:

Thanks for the help. Unforunately, eating is a bit of a habit for me once I get started. It's a subconscious thing for me. Anyways, I'll at lest attempt to replace chips with lettuce, see if that helps.

Try gum, too. I used to snack a lot when I was gaming for long periods of time, but I switched to chewing gum instead. It also helped me stop biting my nails, lol.

TonyOfPlimith
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The whole friends technique has not worked for me yet because of my personality which is exactly like Dr. Gregory House as a result I insult everyone, everything that lives, breathes, has the apparent ability to breathe....
You get the general idea.

Zeithri
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I hate threads like this.
It serves no purpose then glorifying one of the genders over the other one.

But aah, look whoose talking <_<

My contribution;
No one is unique in existance.
But that's not an excuse to chase those you cannot get so stop drooling over super model girls, guys.
And girls, stop flunting after Hockeyplayers because they are BAD GUYS who'll in the end just f*ck you and leave.

-leaves the thread-

AnGeL.SLayer:
You shouldn't take it so personal. Perhaps she doesn't know you well enough yet. Just keep friends and you may be surprised how well she reacts to the fact that you can still be friends after her turning you down.

No offense meant, but you are wrong.
I don't even need to explain why you are wrong, but you just are.

TonyOfPlimith
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"BAD GUYS who'll in the end just f*ck you and leave."

Now let's not stereotype here Zeithri.... not all one night stands are with "Bad Guys".

I'm with Zeithri on the last bit though.

Zeithri
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TonyOfPlimith:
"BAD GUYS who'll in the end just f*ck you and leave."

Now let's not stereotype here Zeithri.... not all one night stands are with "Bad Guys".

I'm with Zeithri on the last bit though.

I was just sterotyping how the hockeyplayer guys in the town here are. And I wasn't really refering to ONS either. They are jerks by nature <_<

ONS are bad in general no matter if it's a nice guy or girl next door.

Lupie
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Hey Joe:
Question for girls: Does your arse look fat in that dress?

My arse is so fat it has its own gravitational pull. Sometimes I have to pick small dogs and litter out from orbit before I can sit down. NEXT!

BlazeTheVampire
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DigestiveBiscuit:

New General Questions:
Has it been known that girls will temporarily avoid someone, but still secretly like them?
Is it right to be suspicious of a surprise outing (after one conversation) on a 'friends only' standing? What do you think is going on?
Would you abandon your family to be with someone?
Would you abandon your friends to be with someone?
In your opinion, what is a surefire way to tell 'it is down the plughole'?
Could I get fries with that?

All opinions welcome. I work better with more opinions - even if they contradict!

- Some girls are impossible even for other girls to figure out, lol. I know sometimes I'll do this thing where I'm afraid they don't like me or that I annoy them so I avoid them so that they don't get annoyed by me. If that made any sense.
- "friends only" dates freak me out too. I tend to arrange group outings if that happens. It feels awkward to be one on one with someone in that manner. Or, at least, go to a public place and not back to your house. (I had that happen and man, was it creepy)
- family, well, that depends. I'm bisexual and my family's strictly Catholic. So if I decided that I loved another woman, then it would definitely be me versus family. Not too sure what the outcome would be.
- friends, never. Shouldn't have to. Both should be accepting of the other to truly call themselves friends or boyfriend/girlfriend.
- assuming "down the plughole" means over, I'm not sure. I always got this awful feeling in the pit of my stomach when I was about to be dumped, lol, but that was it. Lack of communication seems to be a good judge of that- if you both try to fix it, you're okay. If not, well, then...
- You probably shouldn't have the fries. Extra calories, you know. :-P

CSherman
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Do girls like porn as much as guys?

Evil Genius for a Better Tomorrow
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CSherman:
Do girls like porn as much as guys?

From what I have learned the answer is yes although a majority will not actually willingly admit to being turned on by watching porn.

Anarchemitis
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Does this shirt match my suit?

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