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ThurgistBerzerk
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For all of those who can't wait each week for the next Zero Punctuation, you should check out some of these:

Ctrl+Alt+Delete: its pretty much a comic series that usually has some funny stuff with games in it... it's fun to read and updates quicker than Zero Puntuation (well... because of the fact that its a comic. You don't need to spend one week on a comic). This updates every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday.

URL: ctrlaltdel-online.com

The Angry Videogame Nerd: This guy pretty much reviews old games and old hardware (ranging from sega genesis to the super nes) pretty funny but really abuses the word fuck more than required, but usually makes it funny.

URL: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=68700722&MyToken=ae03a4a1-a967-4fe5-8d1b-bd6887267117

(i know its his myspace profile... but it contains all of his videos)

NOTE: this thread is NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT... the main reason is to find other ...(for the lack of a better word) things to do on the internet while waiting for the next Zero Punctuation, that is some-what related to Zero Punctuation... Many of you probably already heard of either or both of these; Well I'm just informing those who havn't heard of them, and if anyone finds anything related to these subjects (updated reviews/video game related ..."stuff")or to Zero Puncutation please post.

The Sorrow
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You DO realize that Yahtzee hates CAD with a fiery passion, right? Says it himself on FullyRamblomatic.
Anyway, Penny Arcade is superior.

Anarchemitis
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Although they may not be an 'advertisment', I should think thatb I speak for many people when I say we've already heard of these people if not are big fans.

What I reccomend to those who love ZP, look up Croshaw's inspiration on youtube; Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe. Link

Darth Mobius
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I like Ctrl+Alt+Del, but most people on this site don't, so don't be surprised if an army shows up to slay you, Troll Advertiser!

Emmitt_Nervend
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Doesn't Yahtzee despise both of those?

ThurgistBerzerk
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alrighty... as of this moment as i have checked out those two... they're pretty funny... and yes i did find a hint as to yahtzee's hatred of CAD in his mass effect review, complaining of to much dialauge... i still find some of CAD funny.

broadband
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i have other things towaste my time in internet, including a pretty good machinima series called leet world, you can find it in youtube

Johnnyweird
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ThurgistBerzerk:
alrighty... as of this moment as i have checked out those two... they're pretty funny... and yes i did find a hint as to yahtzee's hatred of CAD in his mass effect review, complaining of to much dialauge... i still find some of CAD funny.

No, go to fullyramblomatic.com.
He has an entire rant about CAD and why it's not funny.

Darth Mobius
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Furthermore, we already have a thread for comics and such that we read online...

PurpleRain
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I don't understand all this CAD hatred. It's not the best and some of the comics miss the point, but I still like them.

What I do understand is Yahtzee-fanboys hatred. They clog up this forum with their troll breeding calls.

ThaBenMan
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Just because Yahtzee hates the comic, you guys hate it too? Have you guys ever actually read any of it and decided for yourselves if you like it or not?

end_boss
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ThaBenMan:
Just because Yahtzee hates the comic, you guys hate it too? Have you guys ever actually read any of it and decided for yourselves if you like it or not?

Yes. I've been reading CAD for years, and before my very eyes, I saw a comic that I used to find had some good moments slide down into a spiral of self-indulgent storylines and inferior writing.

Meado
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ThaBenMan:
Just because Yahtzee hates the comic, you guys hate it too? Have you guys ever actually read any of it and decided for yourselves if you like it or not?

Bravo that man! If you (you as in everyone, not you as in ThaBenMan) paid attention to Yahtzee's latest video, Mailbag Showdown, you notice that he points out that all reviews are subjective, meaning that they are all based on the reviewers opinion. Not everyone has the same opinion, so therefore you should feel free to try whatever you want.
If there are those among you who base your opinions on things on Yahtzee's word and therefore hate CAD without reading it, you should pay more attention to what he says. I, for one, like CAD, and think that Penny Arcade sucks balls. I read half their archive and only laughed once, so at least I was well informed before I made my decision.

Voodoo Child
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ThaBenMan:
Just because Yahtzee hates the comic, you guys hate it too? Have you guys ever actually read any of it and decided for yourselves if you like it or not?

Ooh! I have! I didn't even know Yahtzee hated it. But anyway I've gone through about 150+ from the start and I didn't crack a smile once, let alone a giggle. So I think that should allow me to say I don't like the comic.

I don't like it.

ThaBenMan
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end_boss:

ThaBenMan:
Just because Yahtzee hates the comic, you guys hate it too? Have you guys ever actually read any of it and decided for yourselves if you like it or not?

Yes. I've been reading CAD for years, and before my very eyes, I saw a comic that I used to find had some good moments slide down into a spiral of self-indulgent storylines and inferior writing.

Ok, that's fine. It just bugs me how everyone here is basically saying "it sucks because Yahtzee says it does" rather than "it sucks because I've looked at it and it sucks". But I agree, End_Boss, I don't care for CAD and prefer Penny Arcade or VGCats (sorry Meado).

ShadeOfRed
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Actually, this should be a stay away thread for those who love ZP. AVGN has zero subtle/sarcastic humour, which Yahtzee aces, and CAD is too... the humour has no real genre (Jack of all trades, king of none) and actually goes on to explain the joke at some points.

Meado
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ThaBenMan:
But I agree, End_Boss, I don't care for CAD and prefer Penny Arcade or VGCats (sorry Meado).

Sorry for what? It's an opinion, why would I care? Oh, and I like VGCats too.

Johnnyweird
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Yahtzee does give a good argument against CAD, though.
The comparison between those two similar comics from CAD and PA was really great.

Etherealed
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http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=251
I love VG Cats, glad to know others here know about it :).

If I followed everything Yahtzee said I believe I would be lighting my RPG collection aflame instead of typing this. He's merely an opinionated, fast talking man who happens to entertain us every Wednesday. Yes, he is absolutely brilliant at times, but that should not make him your ultimate authority on games and comics.

end_boss
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ThaBenMan:

end_boss:

ThaBenMan:
Just because Yahtzee hates the comic, you guys hate it too? Have you guys ever actually read any of it and decided for yourselves if you like it or not?

Yes. I've been reading CAD for years, and before my very eyes, I saw a comic that I used to find had some good moments slide down into a spiral of self-indulgent storylines and inferior writing.

Ok, that's fine. It just bugs me how everyone here is basically saying "it sucks because Yahtzee says it does" rather than "it sucks because I've looked at it and it sucks". But I agree, End_Boss, I don't care for CAD and prefer Penny Arcade or VGCats (sorry Meado).

Actually, the reason they brought up Yahtzee's hatred of CAD in this thread was because the original post said that those who enjoy Yahtzee will also enjoy Ctrl-Alt-Del. They were pointing out that it might actually be unlikely, since Yahtzee detests CAD and his humour appeals mainly to those who share his views.

Sigenrecht
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Well, as logic goes if you sift around in mounds of spewed shit you'll find a fleck of gold, EVENTUALLY. However, Ctrl+Alt+Delete like some things can be a matter of taste, I might say; if you're the kind of person who finds it funny, well, great for you.

PurpleRain
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Johnnyweird:
Yahtzee does give a good argument against CAD, though.
The comparison between those two similar comics from CAD and PA was really great.

I still found the CAD one funny.

ThaBenMan
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end_boss:

ThaBenMan:

end_boss:

ThaBenMan:
Just because Yahtzee hates the comic, you guys hate it too? Have you guys ever actually read any of it and decided for yourselves if you like it or not?

Yes. I've been reading CAD for years, and before my very eyes, I saw a comic that I used to find had some good moments slide down into a spiral of self-indulgent storylines and inferior writing.

Ok, that's fine. It just bugs me how everyone here is basically saying "it sucks because Yahtzee says it does" rather than "it sucks because I've looked at it and it sucks". But I agree, End_Boss, I don't care for CAD and prefer Penny Arcade or VGCats (sorry Meado).

Actually, the reason they brought up Yahtzee's hatred of CAD in this thread was because the original post said that those who enjoy Yahtzee will also enjoy Ctrl-Alt-Del. They were pointing out that it might actually be unlikely, since Yahtzee detests CAD and his humour appeals mainly to those who share his views.

Yeah, looking back on the whole thread, I can see that you're right. Sorry, I just got all preachy for a minute there, "Think for yourselves", etc.

ElArabDeMagnifico
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CAD sucks overall, and for those who have read Yahtzee's views about why it sucks, of course you can still like CAD but it's still very hard to argue his point.

Anyway, CAD seems better when it's more "Random" (I'm too lazy to find the comics, but you should know what I'm talking about) - since it's better at structuring jokes, and they are usually funny.

jim_doki
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[quote=PurpleRain]I don't understand all this CAD hatred. It's not the best and some of the comics miss the point, but I still like them.
[\quote]
I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with CAD, i just think that when you compare it to stuff like penny arcade, daily dinosaur comics, 8 bit theatre, dr mcninja and questionable content, there are fewer good plot developments, fewer laugh out loud moments and i think in general it's not as well drawn (8BT being the obvious exception to that)

Cousin_IT
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PurpleRain:

Johnnyweird:
Yahtzee does give a good argument against CAD, though.
The comparison between those two similar comics from CAD and PA was really great.

I still found the CAD one funny.

The CAD one was good for a cheap chuckle; the PA one looked like it took some effort was just generally better.

As for Charlie Brookers Screenwipe. If anyone hasn't seen that, do what Anarchemitis says & watch it; watch every episode of it.

The_root_of_all_evil
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Order of the Stick and Xkcd are WAY better.

MRMIdAS2k
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The example Yahtzee uses is a fairly good one at first glance, what appears to be the punchline in the CAD comic happens in the first frame, however, the ACTUAL punchline is where it should be, in the last frame, where the hero does what anyone else would do, and takes the easy way out.

The reason it's funny is Tim is pointing out the absurdity of the game, and as a kicker, going "this it what I'd do".

conqueror Kenny
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I have just let CAD pass me by for some time dont want to break any habits and watch/read it now. I'm not even sure what it is.

Melaisis
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The two most unfunny productions in the world, then?

CAD, where the first frame is the joke and the next three are spent trying to explain that joke. CAD, where Buckley still uses Matrix jokes four years after the movie first came out. CAD, where apparently wimmin' are nothing but tools for sex. CAD, where Buckley models himself after the supreme, popular main character - or should that be the other way around? CAD, where Jack Thompson jokes never get old!

Angry Videogame Nerd? Is that the one who thinks he's pro because he can use some of the special features on Sony Vegas to produce himself a few times wearing 'hilarious' outfits? Angry Videogame Nerd? Who's too poor to review new games? Who fails to get sponsorship from YouTube because they think he rigged his views? Yeah, I remember him.

3-fucking-scapism.

ComradeJim270
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CAD? It's trash. It has always been trash. People don't hate it because Yahtzee does, they hate it for the same reason he does... it's awful.

Aside from the fact the creator is a supremely arrogant and immature douche who may have disturbing (possibly illegal) sexual habits, the comic itself shows zero artistic talent, little originality, bad timing, and any time it comes close to being somewhat funny, it ends up stumbling over its own feet, either through the pointless and often needless adherence to a four-panel format (often neccessitating filler that throws off the whole joke), or by explaining the punchline in the most verbose and unfunny manner possible.

CAD is not intentionally funny to anyone who has taste. Laughing WITH CAD? If you do this, you need to reevaluate your taste in comedy. Laughing AT it is all there is for those with taste in humor.

vun
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I'll agree that CAD has it's moments, but I honestly can't see what it's done to deserve all the popularity. Then again I don't like gag comics too much, especially when they have poorly executed ctrl-c ctrl-v artwork when it's updates M/W/F and the artist even does it for a living. If it'd been something he did for fun and updated Monday to Friday, then he'd at least have a something of a excuse for all the copypasting.
I am also aware of the fact that CAD has some story, but it's not enough, both quantity and quality wise, to overshadow the gags.
Although I do follow it; it's far from the worst out there.

Anarchemitis
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image
Copyright xkcd.com
What is close enough in my opinion of CAD.

fsanch
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Etherealed:
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=251
I love VG Cats, glad to know others here know about it :).

I love VG Cats because it's terribly wrong. It's like laughing at the terribly tragic train wreck for the fact that the train flipped over 3 times. It's not really something like Yahtzee as it's just more ribald rather than angry.

I don't know - I wouldn't say people who like Yahtzee like rantviews in general - it's more like they like punchy comedy and entertainment more than anything else, which is why any "funny" reviewer in general should be taken with an extremely large grain of salt. I would wager that if you polled the people in this thread, you'd find that people like similar things which are funny, and not necessarily angry.

Antlers
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I can't find Yahtzee's review of CAD on his Fully Ramblomatic site. Anyone know the exact link?

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