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Darth Mobius
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Uh, don't quote me... I am Bi-polar and just a little callous myself... My thoughts on suicide, having been there a few times myself, are pretty cold hearted....

If they kill themselves over it, we as a society are better off without them.

I am not saying be mean about it, but if she still attempts to kill herself after you have done everything you can to be civil about it, it isn't your fault. If she is a healthy individual her friends will help her through the break up, and everything will be fine. If she tries to kill herself, you would have been worse off staying with her because she would probably have attempted to later in life over something that also wasn't a big deal, and you would have felt worse because you would always wonder, "is my staying with her what pushed her to this point?" Chances are she will cope just fine, even if she cuts herself... (My ex-wife cut herself, and I know it wasn't my fault, she is just fucked up in the head, and I will blame the courts for awarding her custody if my daughter turns out to be the same way...) At some points you have to realize that doing bad things is a part of life, and deal with it like a man.

BlazeTheVampire
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Darth Mobius:
Uh, don't quote me... I am Bi-polar and just a little callous myself... My thoughts on suicide, having been there a few times myself, are pretty cold hearted....

If they kill themselves over it, we as a society are better off without them.

I am not saying be mean about it, but if she still attempts to kill herself after you have done everything you can to be civil about it, it isn't your fault. If she is a healthy individual her friends will help her through the break up, and everything will be fine. If she tries to kill herself, you would have been worse off staying with her because she would probably have attempted to later in life over something that also wasn't a big deal, and you would have felt worse because you would always wonder, "is my staying with her what pushed her to this point?" Chances are she will cope just fine, even if she cuts herself... (My ex-wife cut herself, and I know it wasn't my fault, she is just fucked up in the head, and I will blame the courts for awarding her custody if my daughter turns out to be the same way...) At some points you have to realize that doing bad things is a part of life, and deal with it like a man.

But I'm a woman. lol. Sentimentality is a weakness of mine. I was going to try to talk to her tonight but she had to go to bed because she works early, so now I get to worry about it until tomorrow. *le sigh*

And yeah, sorry Geoff, I don't watch the times when I'm posting. I'll try to remember to do so from now on, lol.

Darth Mobius
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Um, deal with it like a man didn't mean to imply that you were one, instead that you should be coldly rational and realize that you are doing more damage by NOT breaking up with her, even if she attempts or commits suicide, rather than stringing her along and making it seem as if you care and then when she thinks she can't live without you (if she doesn't already) THEN dumping her... The problem with all people is that we tend to think that if you are still with us your feelings are growing like ours are.... Okay, I am an overly sensitive guy, but the point stands, man up!

BlazeTheVampire
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I knew you weren't implying anything, lol. Don't worry, simplistic sayings aren't lost on me, I just always have to argue. :-P

Darth Mobius
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I know, and that was supposed to something along the lines of a back handed complement... Basically, I am saying, "You are fucked either way, at least make your life better, even if it costs hers..."

BlazeTheVampire
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Ouch, lol. I basically already had decided to break up with her, but I was wondering if anybody had any advice on how to go about it. I'm not used to breaking up with other women, lol. The other two I've dated dumped me, and I know I'm a bit of a wreck after a breakup as is- if I had some sort of psychological disorder I'm sure I'd be much worse. So I guess I turned the conversations from guys asking "How do I get women?" to asking how the hell to dump one, lol.

Geoffrey42
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Darth Mobius:
Um, deal with it like a man didn't mean to imply that you were one, instead that you should be coldly rational and realize that you are doing more damage by NOT breaking up with her, even if she attempts or commits suicide, rather than stringing her along and making it seem as if you care and then when she thinks she can't live without you (if she doesn't already) THEN dumping her... The problem with all people is that we tend to think that if you are still with us your feelings are growing like ours are.... Okay, I am an overly sensitive guy, but the point stands, man up!

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You are not helping her in the current situation. At least by breaking it off, you're opening up possibilities for happiness (for both of you) that don't exist right now. Possibility is better than nothing.

Darth Mobius
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Mshcherbatskaya is a woman of considerable experience in the dating Lesbian psychos department. Check out her advice here:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.60130?page=1

BlazeTheVampire
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Actually, I just talked to her and it all went quite smoothly. But thanks for trying, lol.

.. though it did go eerily smoothly... like, too well, you know? She agreed with me that we were getting bored with the relationship because of distance, said she'd been feeling the same way. It was downright spooky.

Darth Mobius
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You know, it only seems spooky because you aren't used to it... They are supposed to go that way...

Smiles
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i have another question!

what is the best place to meet guys! obviously im just looking for opinion...

Geoffrey42
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Smiles:
what is the best place to meet guys! obviously im just looking for opinion...

What kind of guys are you looking for?

mshcherbatskaya
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Fire Daemon:

Ok, ok, ok. My bad! Now lets just let us just lay this to rest.

I'm giving you a hard time, but you know I'm not attacking you, right? Or not intending to anyway. The internet is not particularly good at conveying tone, but I hope I've proven over the course of my time here that I'm not prone to trolling, and besides, we were troll-hunters together. I would never intentionally pick on you. If we'd been having this out in a bar, you would have seen me laughing over it, and afterwards I would have bought you a beer.

EDIT TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR: If I attacked you or gave the impression that I was attacking you, then I apologize.

mshcherbatskaya
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Darth Mobius:
Just saying what they told me in school... That a guy ate an improperly prepared monkey brain, which gave him the disease, which he passed on to his gay lover and his wife, who he had been cheating on... It was the dominant theory at the time, who knows what has happened in the intervening... 7 years or so...

Who told you this in school? Teachers or other students? Any idea where they picked up this information?

Darth Mobius:
Mshcherbatskaya is a woman of considerable experience in the dating Lesbian psychos department. Check out her advice here:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.60130?page=1

Gee, I'm not sure how I feel about this being my area of expertise...

Two things to keep in mind. Suicide is an inherently aggressive act. While the primary motivation may be to escape from suffering, there is still the element of throwing over the dinner table and running out of the room. If anyone is going to kill themselves, or says they are going to kill themselves because of you, then treat them as you would a suicide bomber whose explosives are psychological rather than physical.

The second is that while there many reasons to self-injure, I am of the opinion that cutting for display ("See what you made me do?!" spoken or not) is, like suicide, an aggressive act. Their intent is to cause pain to other people, as well as to themselves.

If your significant other is being aggressive with you, whether they are throwing things through TVs or cutting themselves, you should leave them as soon as possible.

I would say, based on my own experiences, that compulsive behaviors are a big flashing neon EMERGENCY EXIT sign. Do not take the elevators, take the stairs and meet the people you can trust in the parking lot.

Darth Mobius
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Teacher, and no, I have no clue... This was actually over 8 years ago, now that I think of it....

I didn't mean that the way it sounded... Sorry. Not that it is your area of expertise, but more that you are more experienced than any of us will ever be....

jim_doki
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Smiles:
i have another question!

what is the best place to meet guys! obviously im just looking for opinion...

it really depends what you are looking for. Bars are always good, nightclubs. if you want to lower the spread a little go to concerts of bands that you like and strike up a convo (this works best in the seats, but if you're ok with a little "i don't know you grope", the floor works as well).
the problem is never meeting people of the opposite sex, its figuring out what to say to them once you've met them. seriously, if you throw a dart out the window you could meet a guy

Darth Mobius
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This is actually something I have thought about, and personally, I have no good answer... Although I think it would be neat to meet a woman at an auto parts store... Depends on your interests. L.A. Autoshow is a good place to meet people who are into cars like me... Pilgrimage to mecca this year... I am going down to L.A. this fall for the Auto Show, come hell or High Water... And maybe even both...

marvinn
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I have to say, I don't find anything attractive about Lesbians at all. I don't mean this to sound rude but all the Lesbians i've ever met have been horrible, cold-hearted, and just plain bitchy. I've notice a lot of Lesbians are in fact feminists as well. In fact my father (a school teacher) transferred to a new workplace due to a pair of bitchy Lesbians and their 'hate-everyone-whos-not-us' policy.

As for the best place to meet men (TEH INTARNETZ DUH!), I should think go just about anywhere go looking well presented you'd have no trouble. As a general rule though, I wouldn't want to find a girlfriend who doesn't like any of my interests at all (and vice versa), just because I go to the Gym every day, doesn't mean I don't spend hours sitting at a computer playing games avoiding housework all day. I think getting to know the person is extremely important

mshcherbatskaya
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marvinn:
I have to say, I don't find anything attractive about Lesbians at all. I don't mean this to sound rude but all the Lesbians i've ever met have been horrible, cold-hearted, and just plain bitchy. I've notice a lot of Lesbians are in fact feminists as well. In fact my father (a school teacher) transferred to a new workplace due to a pair of bitchy Lesbians and their 'hate-everyone-whos-not-us' policy.

Well, speaking as both a lesbian and a feminist, I have no doubt that I am just as horrible, cold-hearted, bitchy, and humorless as you expect me to be. I'm also ugly as shit. And I hate everyone who isn't "one of us." Oh, wait, what the hell am I doing here, then? You mean this isn't the BBS for the Female Supremicist Ball-Breakers International Sisterhood? How very embarrassing, and here I've been all this time, making friends with people who are not carbon-copies of myself.

Seriously, though, if someone approached me with the sort of pre-set attitude you seem to have, I probably would be a bitch, but that would say less about me than it would about them. I think I am quite friendly on the whole, but I do not take shit from people (unless I'm, y'know, dating them) and I know that sounds like this total tough-girl thing, but it really boils down to the fact that taking shit would depend on me keeping my mouth shut regardless of my opinions, and I think we all know I couldn't keep my mouth shut to save my life, like right now for instance and hey have you noticed that I really tend to run on and on when I am tired?

mshcherbatskaya
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Darth Mobius:
Teacher, and no, I have no clue... This was actually over 8 years ago, now that I think of it....

I didn't mean that the way it sounded... Sorry. Not that it is your area of expertise, but more that you are more experienced than any of us will ever be....

No sweat, I was joking. Seriously though, how is it that some how I've fucked up so much that I'm now qualified to give advice? How does that happen?

marvinn
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Not saying that at all. My very own Aunt who lives just down the street is also gay, and I get on with her just fine (surviving her cooking is something different though). Just saying the majority of Lesbian's i've met my lifetime (and that's more than just a couple) haven't left me with a good impression that's all.

Darth Mobius
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mshcherbatskaya:

Darth Mobius:
Teacher, and no, I have no clue... This was actually over 8 years ago, now that I think of it....

I didn't mean that the way it sounded... Sorry. Not that it is your area of expertise, but more that you are more experienced than any of us will ever be....

No sweat, I was joking. Seriously though, how is it that some how I've fucked up so much that I'm now qualified to give advice? How does that happen?

Same way it happened to me. Life likes to kick us when we are down... And if the force was with me, it was DEFINITELY the dark side.... Which probably explains why my life has been so much better these last few months... Surrender to the dark side, We have an excellent 401k and retirement package...

Jallil Vlos
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*Rolls her eyes and shakes her head* Retirement? If, and it's a big IF, I get that old to retire, someone shoot me. Not being able to work is going to drive me crazy. Just take a pistol, preferably a Colt .45 Magnum actually, put it to the back of my skull, and pull the trigger. Quick, painless, and it will make a spectacular bloody display on the wall. Now a days, you can't retire until your over 70 anyways. I'll have lived a full life.

Darth Mobius
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See what I mean? Even when I find a decent one she is still bat shit insane... Help me...

Jallil Vlos
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Mobius, I'm joking. -_-' You know, when you call me, bag on me then. Until then...

*places her hands to her lips*

Shush and behave. And insanity has it's perks. It keeps you safe from yourself when those who are sane start to belittle you. That's when you turn on a movie, and put each of them on a face, and try to predict who dies first. If you've got a problem with me, tell me now. You know I can stand your ranting.

Elim Garak
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Fire Daemon:
I was waiting for this, I really was.

Anyway, a Question to the guys. What's better, Blonde, Brunette or Black Hair?

:EDIT: How could I forget Red hair! This is now part of the question.

Yes. I will take one of each.

Darth Mobius
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I prefer Darker Hair.... Blondes never really did it for me... Maybe living in L.A, land of the bleach job, I just got bored of them quick... If they weren't sun-bleached blonde, they were just bleach blonde... And even the natural blondes had highlights so they didn't look as good... But some black hair, on one of those perfect latina bodies....

*Drool*

Yeah, definitely darker hair for me....

Jallil Vlos
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*would like to delete her two prior posts, but instead simply gestures to them* Ignore those if you could. I cant get rid of them, but I wish I could. I'm going to go work on my book now...

Jallil Vlos
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I've not got black hair, more of a brownish shade.

Long or short hair guys? Which do you prefer?

Darth Mobius
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And you aren't Latina either, so I will happily settle for your perfect White body and long Brown hair...

You know me... Long. Mid back or a little longer... I prefer straight over curly as well...

Ultrajoe
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Jallil Vlos:
I've not got black hair, more of a brownish shade.

Long or short hair guys? Which do you prefer?

depends on the girl, some look amazing with shorter hair, others gorgeous with long locks.

no preference from me here on length... but i do have a thing for blondes, colour is not an obstacle though.

Hey Joe
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Length...hmmm...I don't think it's a burning issue when determining when girl is cute or not (Hey, I once dated a bald girl), but it is nice to have long hair that tickles you chest when...you know...she's on top.

The_root_of_all_evil
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Smiles:
i have another question!

what is the best place to meet guys! obviously im just looking for opinion...

Allegedly. The meat counter at your local supermarket.

The_root_of_all_evil
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Ewe'll be sorry:

I_would_have_a_hard_time_convincing_Lewis_Black_of_my_claim:

Sheepboy42:

The_foot_of_all_weevils:

Jeffrey42:
How do you explain the online quiz games asking you to guess whether a partially revealed picture is ass or boobs? SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, MAN!

Subjective evidence. Whilst my eyes are drawn to both, it's a different response. The boobs represent a stroking, whilst the bum is more to do with the thighs; and is more of a holding.

You cut deep. That hurts.
I still like the theory.

As theories go, it's quite shiny; but it's just a thin veneer.

You can say that all you like, but your personal feelings about the differences between ass and boobs are no more substantive than me pointing at my own. My online polls may be subjective, but they're better than nada (even when the invocation thereof was meant to be humorous more than scientific).

Saying that the origin of the breast fascination is not linked to prior ass-fascination based on your present expression of those fascinations is nothing but navel-gazing. At least my theory comes from an uncited source! Who told me the theory over lunch! Trying to explain why gay guys enjoy she and her sister's large bosoms so much! So there!

Aha, but you forgot about gay guys, didn't you? If they had the same fascination, then they'd be attracted to moobs.
I r teh winzor!

Geoffrey42
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My_name's_not_f***ing_Warren!:

Ewe'll be sorry:

I_would_have_a_hard_time_convincing_Lewis_Black_of_my_claim:

Sheepboy42:

The_foot_of_all_weevils:

Jeffrey42:
How do you explain the online quiz games asking you to guess whether a partially revealed picture is ass or boobs? SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, MAN!

Subjective evidence. Whilst my eyes are drawn