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Paperboy  Posts: 15 Joined: 18 Apr 2008   | |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 55 Joined: 6 Mar 2008   | Incoming questions... I apologies if some were already asked, but I don't have time to dig through 10 pages... 1. Generally speaking, do guys prefer girls with or without make-up? |
BANNED  Posts: 55 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
There is a line between nice and flirty but in some places it is wide in others it is very very fine. I'm not sure the best way around this other than being rather obnoxious (for example one of your friends' BF is looking at you with googly eyes you can ask them into another room, you get them to sit down somewhere and then you belch as loudly as you can into their ear, while they are stunned you run out and close/lock the door behind you, they won't think twice about it again, unless they are weird at which point you will have trouble) Your reputation as a slut is partially because you have more than one BF, when I see a person with more than one bf/gf (total) I instantly think they are slutty which for a man is an admirable trait for a woman not so much (I'm not sure why that is either). However if you are caught in a trap like that you should do your best to turn down men when your female friends are around (being a 1 person gal would help you here, saying you have one and ONLY 1) if you must then make it as loud as humanly possible (for example if the girls are lacking in the subtlety awareness department), the best thing to do is have only 1 BF/GF as no one will make the mistake of hitting on you (unless you show signs of unhappiness in your relationship_or thinking you are a prude, as you already have your 1 and aren't into sharing (which seems prudish but is accepted as not) This may or may not work I'm not a relationship expert by any means. |
Paperboy Posts: 45 Joined: 19 May 2008 |
Those are some good questions, but I think everyone's going to have their own opinions to them. 1. Generally the body language is a give away. Im the sort of person who's usually very quiet, until I get friendly and comfortable with someone, then I open right up and can talk all day. If you're holding a good conversation, lots of posative signs like eye contact, smiling, laughing at jokes, etc that's usually a good thing. 2. By saying something usually :P Even if its just 'sorry I really can't talk now, I'm in a hurry' 3. Interestingly enough I like black hair, but I don't mind blonde, or any colour really. However (sorry to say this) I really hate hair that's been dyed a different colour, and can often pick it a mile off. I've also noticed a lot of men seem to like colours that are similar to their mother's hair colour (seriously). 4. I'm more of a talker, but only when I know the other person is interested in what I have to say, and only once I get to know them 5. I tend to look for someone who shows a fair bit of maturity, but that's because I tend to make a lot of dry jokes, and there's nothing worse than someone not understanding a joke, and having to explain it.
I do know of a girl who's been around nothing but men all her life and actually blurted out the comment "Im really just a man trapped in a Woman's body". Thing is, you should try not to feel alienated by it, just view them as 'friends who you'd treat equally'. I had a friend at one stage who went to a differnt High School to me, invited me around for his birthday party, and I found out that me and him were the only two males in a sea of about 12 Women. Yet he knew all of them well and it didn't seem to phase him in the slightest. Its completely normal for women to pay attention to their surroundings like that (in fact, its a valuble survival instinct), but my advice is to try your best to ignore it.
Again it comes down to interests. Sure I'd settle down with you, I come from a family of artists and to me that's just art (I am in fact a Cake Decorator). Others may view it as boring and be into sport, and can't stand being at a computer.
I know of a couple who spend their entire lives sitting at computers, playing completely different games to each other and never muttering a word for the entire evening. She plays the Sims, he sits around and nags her to play TF2. Its kind of a weird relationship. I personally am the thinking teaching sort (as you can tell by these rambling posts)and I love nothing more than teaching a friend how to play a new game. However, I love just as much when they show me something new too (I got to a lot of LANs). Only thing I can think of is sometimes you need to set rules and limits i.e. Computer goes off at 11pm, I've got work tomorrow, and both sides have to be committed to this. I once had a female friend visitor who sat on my computer all night, which is fine, except she kept me awake all night doing so. I get up to go to work at 5am and so need my sleep. So there was a lack of communication there. |
Paperboy Posts: 45 Joined: 19 May 2008 |
1. A little makeup is fine, i.e. little bit of pale lipstick or gloss, a small amount of powder on the cheek, but no where to draw the line. Girls who lather it on the cheeks and lips, and go overboard with the eyeshadow are just plain ugly. Most of the time though, a brush through the hair and clean teeth is plenty. I personally can't stand the whole emo-eye shadow thing. 2. I think its just one of those traditions that's just stuck over time, like the handshake. I've hugged a gay man before, and surprisingly didn't catch that horrible disease that gay people supposedly have. Maybe a pat on the back is a way of men being friendly to each other by showing physical restraint to each other, but i'm really not sure. 3. I think Men tend to just be a bit more tolerant of pain in general. I speak as someone who spent a week with a broken left wrist, before finally driving a manual car over to the hospital to find out why this dull ache wasn't going away. I think the last time I cried in public was 7 years ago when someone at work wouldn't stop teasing me for having a gay room mate. Plenty of sad things have happened since then, and although I feel the pain, there's rarely any tears that come out. Sometimes it becomes anger instead of tears. |
BANNED Posts: 55 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
1)I like a little make up on my girls (just don't whore it up) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3482 Joined: 13 Feb 2008     |
LOL 1) A little is nice. |
BANNED Posts: 55 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
I don't think she was talking about pain so much as about in general when something sad happens. Pain tolerance varies from person to person, sometimes it looks like when Peter Gryphon hurt his leg in the episode where they went to the Paw Tuckett brewery, others like me can break their leg in boot camp and not realize it for 3 weeks until one day they get fed up with the ache and the hobbling and go to the medical station. |
BANNED Posts: 55 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
That is true seeing a grown man cry is classified in the "pathetic loser" department, even if their reason is justifiable. I'm not sure why either I hope someone else knows. Maybe I should have wrote "my friends in general" eh oh well still didn't stop my typo. Proves I'm human at least, well it should anyhow. |
Paperboy Posts: 45 Joined: 19 May 2008 |
I was comparing Sadness, as an emotional pain, to a physical pain. Often people respond the same way to both |
BANNED Posts: 55 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
Men are most certainly not tougher, emotionally speaking, than women as in all things it is a person to person basis. When a man gets angry that is usually a response to some form of psychological pain, usually linked to frustration, sadness , the lack of happiness or beer. Men simply show their psychological pain in different ways than women do, typically by working harder/out or punching someone. Women typically cry or scream at whoever is causing this when not working harder/out (in the odd case they may start punching but it doesn't happen often, at about the same rate as men crying about something) Another method they both use is tuning it out pretending it doesn't affect them or that they don't care(and sometimes they actually don't care.) which is actually a really good defense until they HAVE to deal with it. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 668 Joined: 19 Dec 2007  |
Both. I'd expect to be able to teach a girl something, just as I'd expect her to be able to teach me something. It's more fun when you can help each other improve.
I'm not sure. I once thought to myself "What would happen if I caught a future girlfriend in bed with another woman?" The answer that came to me at the time was "Probably as hurt as if I caught her in bed with a man." As for your question though, I'd probably say "And?" In my time on the Internet so far, I've seen lots of quotes about people having moments of doubt. It doesn't matter. There'd be part of me that'd want to ask "Fancy a threesome?", as there always is.
It's not daunting in the slightest. It's the same way I like reading fanfiction, and reading fanfiction created by a potential girlfriend wouldn't be daunting. In fact, it'd be a bonus ("That's one less of her hobbies to research, and it's a hobby I'm already into! Plus we can rip apart the crap idiots write together!"). Too bad you're most likely (A) nowhere near me and (B) too young for me, seeing how I'm 22. ;)
I can't see why it would be. Just consider it a different perspective.
Without. Even thinking about makeup makes me want to vomit sometimes.
Crying never gets anything done. Why bother? The last time I cried (Except from laughing too much) was years ago, when I was in school. It was the result of months of built-up stress from being bullied constantly. Never done it since. Well, except for when I watch a whodunnit (Or play a game like Phoenix Wright) and manage to solve a major plot point ages before the characters do. And even then it's never actually crying, my eyes just get wet. My body's weird like that. |
Paperboy  Posts: 26 Joined: 21 May 2008  |
1. Personally, I couldn' give a flying donkey pie about make-up. Unless you've put on so much that you could paint a wall with the same amount. Thats bad. 2. So that's what I've been doing wrong. But no, I think most guys are still genetically programmed to be afraid of sexualising other men. I, myself, hug anyone in sight. Lots. Every single guy beats me over the head or shrugs me off but It's just another kind of greeting to me. 3. I don't know a guy that actively supresses his crying, but we're not as emotionless as it seems. I think maybe the emotions are wired up differently, so we just ignore it or hit a wall. I certainly don't think that it's an active decision. |
Paperboy Posts: 45 Joined: 19 May 2008 |
Yeah that's kind of what I was getting at. A year ago my pet cockatiel (of 10 years) died, and my feeling was like "yeah whatever, she was an old bird". I knew I should have been crying about it, but just like the fractured wrist, just the feeling is there, but there's no response I guess. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 668 Joined: 19 Dec 2007 | I've lost three grandparents so far. I've not even felt bad about a single one of them snuffing it. After all, why bother getting weepy when it won't solve anything? They lived, surely people should be celebrating their lives rather than mourning their deaths? |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 825 Joined: 22 Aug 2006   |
I actually had something written that would've made my objection more clear, but I deleted it because it wasn't coming together very well. Generally, my initial objection was based on the idea that some aspects of the boob attraction might be genetic components. At the very least, gay males have more in common with straight males than any form of female does. So, again, it's a different argument altogether, but one I feel has to be settled before my gay-male evidence or your bi-female testimony can really be relied upon (ending sentences with prepositions ftw). If we were mapping boob-attraction and source on any sort of scale or space, would the distance between the average heterosexual male and the average homosexual male be greater or lesser than the distance between the average heterosexual male and the average (bisexual in this one case) female?
Are you talking about symmetry, or something else? You appear to be intentionally mixing between the "2 of everything/bilateral symmetry" and having two sets of distinct things that are similar in appearance when taken out of context. The lower two holes aren't bilateral symmetry (which is what humans have). What's the other part of my body that looks remarkably like my ear? (Not talking about the other ear). Or my eye? Phalanges are phalanges, so let's not go there. When looking at creature's in nature that have evolved through mimicry, have we really cared whether structurally the appearance came about the same (underlying muscle structure), or is the important aspect that from a 3rd party point of view, they appear similar enough to confuse the predator? EDIT: P.S. Raquel > J-Lo > Dolly |
BANNED Posts: 55 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
Death by old age isn't something to cry about ,sad maybe if they had a few years left in them, if they lived a full life then they should be celebrated. Now when you lose someone considerably closer to you like, for example, your best friend to unnatural causes, that is something to be sad about, but you should always cherish your memories and celebrate the times you had , both the good and the bad(which makes the good all the sweeter). Even then you may only shed a tear or two at most for your fallen friend, because they wouldn't want you to be sad because friends never wish that upon each other, and you will HAVE to move on after all what kind of friend would you be if you let their death bother you for the rest of your life. Value your real friends cherish your memories and hope they will too. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 825 Joined: 22 Aug 2006 |
At least, for me personally, there are times I've felt like "If I were more emotional/hormonal/prone, I would be crying right now." For example: the season finale of House this week. That had me teary-eyed. Talking to a friend about it the morning after had me teary-eyed. But that's pretty much as far as it goes for me. I don't produce enough juice for a tear to form and drip. Similarly, my girlfriend of multiple years ended it with me on Valentine's Day. I was a wreck. Despite large amounts of alcohol, and several sincere hours of just trying to get the despair out of my system (including the occasional sob), there were no tears. My eyes don't make them! So that's one half. The other half is societal pressure discouraging it. When it's just a barely runny nose and slightly reddened eyes though, it is easier to hide. |
Muckraker  Posts: 293 Joined: 9 Nov 2007 | Guys learn not to cry I think. You know that young buys cry more then girls? Women feel more physical pain, but cope better with it in general (at least, read research saying this) A girls cry does solve stuff. It gets attention. people want to help you. And it works great to send the boyfriend on a guilt trip...(j/k). As far for guys being grumpy and not wanting to tell why- I know not to nag too much (generally ask 2-3 times) but be considerate; It's annoying when you sit next to someone with a face of a brick. Next question! Another cliche is that when there is a girl problem, guys come with answers, while girls often just want a hug. Do you recognize any of this? As for myself; Just once, my bf kept coming up with solutions, and at that point I just told him I wanted a hug. Which I got :) |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 668 Joined: 19 Dec 2007 |
I've heard it mentioned many times. I've experienced mild versions of it. "[Problem]." "Just do this." "You're not helping!" "Yes I am." |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1815 Joined: 4 Nov 2007    |
This would explain a lot. It seems offering ideas rarely achieves much, while giving out a hug works wonders. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 825 Joined: 22 Aug 2006 |
I do this all the time. I can't help it, even when I recognize it. Problems are there to be solved! What is bad is when providing support of this nature over the phone, all you CAN do is try to come up with answers. Best I've been able to do long distance is recognize the need for a hug, and tell them to get off the phone and go find someone to give them some affection/comfort. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 6 Joined: 20 Nov 2007 |
1. Most guys will say 'without'. Some will mean it. Others will say 'A little bit is ok, but not whored up', have a one-nighter a heavilly made up Keira Knightly lookalike, and wake up in the morning with Trevor McDonald, then have their hypocrisy on toast for breakfast. How-to:http://makeupbeat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1432827768_8d30e7dc17_o__oPt.jpg 2. It's OK to hug a guy without a pat on the back. The back pat is just a man thing, makes the hug more affectionate. Guys would get upset it they other guy didn't back pat. I suppose it's similar to a girl's peck on the cheek to a good friend. It's just that guys prefer back patting. 3. I've never really had problems crying in front of people, I just don't cry much any more. There's not much worth crying about in the rigmarole of every day life, it's only when something really bad happens I'll shed a tear or several. I think it's because girls cry easier than guys that they think we're emotionless - in the long run, crying doesn't DIRECTLY solve anything (not making the same mistake someone else did earlier) - if you were to just sit there and cry when something went wrong, you wouldn't solve it. Sure, someone else might see you and solve it for you, but it's unlikely unless you're a hot girl in this day and age. So crying isn't as useful for men; we have to channel the emotion into something useful to get anything done, like anger and aggression towards whoever upset us. It's nice as an outlet for sad things we can do literally nothing about though, like death of a loved one etc. Nobody can change those things and the emotion has to come out somehow.
See, I don't think it's entirely fair to blame that on guys. Consider these two situations, and guys AND girls, post honestly how you'd respond to each: My point should be self explanatory. :P |
Muckraker Posts: 322 Joined: 18 Jan 2008 |
This is the reason I stop reading threads the minute I notice Jalill and Darth are posting in the same thread :P Or at least skip their posts. @Menthol and rayxofxsunshine - I find your...dilemma of liking video games and intimidating guys with them as surprising, to say the least. If you attended the college (university for our british friends) I just graduated from, you'd be knee deep in guys drooling over you. Particularly you, ray, as it seems everyone here has some form of Asian fetish... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3482 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 |
Uhhh...All gender orientations (AFAIK) are attracted to bums, but only half to boobs. As for predators, surely most female milk glands are hidden from view; it's only the primates that have them on show? Thinking about it, are primates milk glands attached to the pleasure centres? Because only us and dolphins have sex for fun?
Good enough, but the first two(four) are artificial. |
I actually resolved this - within the thirty seconds. My dilemna is do I hang around guys too much insofar as to consider myself one - as I did for that brief amount of time? My definition of "gay" at that time was - liking men, sexually, mentally etc. Being a girl, I can't be "gay" and it would not be "unusual" for me to like men. Hence my little blonde moment. Generally not getting on well with the female population, I don't really want to start making 'girlfriends' but should I lay off hanging with guys so much? Is it a bad thing?