The_root_of_all_evil:

So why is this so hard to understand when I try to explain it to the guys who don't know me?

Walk into the pub and order a pint. That usually works.

Nah, not in Ireland

Sparkly-elf:
And also, on the men topic while we're here...

I'm rather... manly, and while it gets me in with "the lads" as a friend, it doesn't do much for my social life. I can't stand hanging around with groups of giggling, hair flipping girls gossiping about how cute the boy-man is off some distance, I'd much rather be wrestling and punch arms playfully and having a good laugh.

So why is this so hard to understand when I try to explain it to the guys who don't know me?

Well I certainly get it. I hate those girls too... Which sucks for me, because there are a lot of them.

Easykill:

Sparkly-elf:
And also, on the men topic while we're here...

I'm rather... manly, and while it gets me in with "the lads" as a friend, it doesn't do much for my social life. I can't stand hanging around with groups of giggling, hair flipping girls gossiping about how cute the boy-man is off some distance, I'd much rather be wrestling and punch arms playfully and having a good laugh.

So why is this so hard to understand when I try to explain it to the guys who don't know me?

Well I certainly get it. I hate those girls too... Which sucks for me, because there are a lot of them.

Me personally, I can't stand that type of girl... But, I mean, I just stay outta their way.

ayoama:
Will anybody here ever think about a baby's needs when trying to explain the origin of breasts? Ah, men and their persuasion that everything revolves around them ;P

yes breasts are there to feed the baby BUT the breasts that everyone knows and loves on women today aren't there for babies, if you notice with the rest of the great apes they only have enlarged mammaries when they are pregnant and are breast feeding after that they go back down

it's only human females that have enlarged mammaries at all times. they are there for us males to look at and oogle

Dear boys,

What would you consider the 'sexiest song" of all time? Mine personally is Poison by Alice Cooper

[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

MissDumpling:
Dear boys,

What would you consider the 'sexiest song" of all time? Mine personally is Poison by Alice Cooper

Survivor - Can't Hold Back. Just please don't watch the video, the absurd hairstyles totally ruin the song.

Most romantic song is REO Speedwagon - Making Love Out of Nothing at All.

MissDumpling:
[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

Is that in the drug context, the sexual context, or just the plain old landscaping context? Man, it's hard to answer a simple question these days.

Tatter:

MissDumpling:
[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

Is that in the drug context, the sexual context, or just the plain old landscaping context? Man, it's hard to answer a simple question these days.

yeah i wasn't sure on that either, i'm think she's meaning as hitting on another guy's girl

but it could have a few different meanings

If MissDumpling is referring to hitting on another guys' girlfriend, then...

No, I absolutely condemn it. I'm the type that's against open relationships, so yeh...

Sorry if that's not what she's referring to.

Edit: Grr.. damn my terrible spelling.

stompy:

No, I absolutely condone it. I'm the type that's against open relationships, so yeh...

EPIC Freudian slip. Very nice.

Geoffrey42:

stompy:

No, I absolutely condone it. I'm the type that's against open relationships, so yeh...

EPIC Freudian slip. Very nice.

I'm sorry, but would you kindly explain? I get the feeling you've ridiculed me, but I'm not sure how...

Edit: I've read up on Wiki... but, would you still explain what I did? It's still a bit unclear to me.

condone - (v) to give tacit approval to
condemn - (v) to express an unfavorable or adverse judgment on; indicate strong disapproval of; censure

So, now we all know that while you want to appear as if you condemn it, secretly, deep in your heart of hearts, you really approve (because Freud says so).

Tatter:

Is that in the drug context, the sexual context, or just the plain old landscaping context? Man, it's hard to answer a simple question these days.

Yep. Hitting on someone else's girl

MissDumpling:

Tatter:

Is that in the drug context, the sexual context, or just the plain old landscaping context? Man, it's hard to answer a simple question these days.

Yep. Hitting on someone else's girl

I feel like a dumbass for not catching that at all. I was like "What does a lawn have to do with a significant other?" That was quite the blond moment...

Are we talking "I just met you and have no idea that you have a significant other" or "what your significant other doesn't know won't hurt him"? I have a few friends who do it mostly as a joke, though sometimes it does get considerably nagging... like they're starting to mean it, lol.

Easykill:

Sparkly-elf:
And also, on the men topic while we're here...

I'm rather... manly, and while it gets me in with "the lads" as a friend, it doesn't do much for my social life. I can't stand hanging around with groups of giggling, hair flipping girls gossiping about how cute the boy-man is off some distance, I'd much rather be wrestling and punch arms playfully and having a good laugh.

So why is this so hard to understand when I try to explain it to the guys who don't know me?

Well I certainly get it. I hate those girls too... Which sucks for me, because there are a lot of them.

You're preaching to the choir, here. I mostly just want to vomit when I see a gaggle of girls in a circle giggling at who-knows-what... yes, a gaggle. Like geese. A deserving group noun, don't you think? I mean sure, I'll comment on how hot a guy is occasionally but it's generally an off-handed comment while watching a movie, and I usually do it just to make whoever I'm with feel uncomfortable because it's usually one of my guy friends and it's funny to watch him squirm.

I will never hit on a girl who's already got a man. That seems to me to be one of the lowest things you can do to someone else. If I don't know then there's nothing really I can do about it, but outside of my ignorance there's no excuse.

MissDumpling:
Dear boys,

What would you consider the 'sexiest song" of all time? Mine personally is Poison by Alice Cooper

[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

Pour Some Sugar On Me - Def Leppard

Well if the guy knows she's taken he's a flat out tosspiece, If he's non the wiser, then fair enough, just apologise and GTFO. If she's taken, but leads him along, she's a whore.

MRMIdAS2k:

MissDumpling:
Dear boys,

What would you consider the 'sexiest song" of all time? Mine personally is Poison by Alice Cooper

[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

Pour Some Sugar On Me - Def Leppard

Well if the guy knows she's taken he's a flat out tosspiece, If he's non the wiser, then fair enough, just apologise and GTFO. If she's taken, but leads him along, she's a whore.

I concur.
Also, I know I lack a penis and it's addressed to guys, but "Closer" by Nine Inch Nails rocks my world :-D

MRMIdAS2k:

Well if the guy knows she's taken he's a flat out tosspiece, If he's non the wiser, then fair enough, just apologise and GTFO. If she's taken, but leads him along, she's a whore.

Seconded.

Supposedly the best song ever for 'getting down' is "I Can Feel It Coming" By Phil Collins.

However...

Geoffrey42:
condone - (v) to give tacit approval to
condemn - (v) to express an unfavorable or adverse judgment on; indicate strong disapproval of; censure

So, now we all know that while you want to appear as if you condemn it, secretly, deep in your heart of hearts, you really approve (because Freud says so).

... Garh! Damn this simple spelling mistake... Ugh, well, thanks for the heads up.

MissDumpling:
Dear boys,

What would you consider the 'sexiest song" of all time? Mine personally is Poison by Alice Cooper

Blame it on my growing up in the 80s, but "Rocket" by Def Leppard would be a good choice in my book.

MissDumpling:
[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

I understand I've been "out of the loop" for quite some time, but I am still dismayed that I have no idea what this means.

Hey Joe:

sammyfreak:
The big unawnsered question is; Breat, why so interesting?

Now we're getting to the core of what it means to be a modern male.

For all of our education and enlightenment, jingling things with nipples hold our attention like nothing else.

I kinda edited that. But it proves my point. Jiggly things amuse guys like nothing else. My ex used to get bored and flick my boob and giggle like a schoolgirl. Which amused the hell out of me. But it doesn't answer the question. Why in bloody hell are they so amusing? If you love them so much, grow a pair of your own. :P

Most of the Internet forum browsing type probably do have a pair of their own, but they're boring when they're your own!

I already gave my answer to that question back on page 9, post 290.

Also if your boyfriend is bored, and has nothing on his mind, naturally he's going to default to whatever that powerful hormone tells his brain to think about :)

Here is my view on what men, like me think of the femal anatmony

this first: http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20071231
then this: http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20080102

remember follow that specific order or it is waster

MRMIdAS2k:

Well if the guy knows she's taken he's a flat out tosspiece, If he's non the wiser, then fair enough, just apologise and GTFO. If she's taken, but leads him along, she's a whore.

I'd just like to point out that a whore traditionally is in it for some sort of payment. I think the derogatory term you're looking for is... wow. All the words I thought just meant "easy" are also synonymous with prostitution. Very odd. So yeah, I think the word you want here is "easy" or "promiscuous". Otherwise, you're giving prostitution a bad name!

MissDumpling:

Dear boys,

What would you consider the 'sexiest song" of all time? Mine personally is Poison by Alice Cooper

[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

Hmmmm... I'm not sure I actually believe what I'm about to say, but I'm going to throw out "Deep" by Nine Inch Nails, and "Darling Nikki" by Prince (Foo Fighters cover ftw, though)

For "cutting someone else's grass", which, btw, is a HORRIBLE euphemism... If you, guy or girl, found your soul-mate, and they just so happened to be involved at that particular moment with someone else, is that really going to stop you? Should it?

sammyfreak:

Fire Daemon:
I was waiting for this, I really was.

Anyway, a Question to the guys. What’s better, Blonde, Brunette or Black Hair?

Black, long shot. Persian/Arabic girls ftw.

are you crazy?

blonde british girls mmmm yeah :D

PaulLAD:

sammyfreak:

Fire Daemon:
I was waiting for this, I really was.

Anyway, a Question to the guys. What's better, Blonde, Brunette or Black Hair?

Black, long shot. Persian/Arabic girls ftw.

are you crazy?

blonde british girls mmmm yeah :D

Hellz no. Dated one, stay away.

They all want to be WAGs, and that makes my bank balance cry.

*edit* Sexiest song is 'Chocolate' by Kylie Minogue. It's sexy because it appeals to both sexes...oh yes.

The_root_of_all_evil:

You did read my post two above yours?

Alas, I didn't. I think I left the thread's page aside for too long without refreshing.

Geoffrey42:

Whether you were joking or not, I can't tell. Either way, nobody has doubted the origin of the mammary gland and its original intended purpose. The entire question has been, why are men so fascinated by the breasts, and my question personally was, does their resemblance (on humans) to the ass provide relevant information, or is it just noise?

I was indeed joking; there was some serious undertone though, which I'll try to explain a bit in detail.
I had the impression that some of the comments were approaching the theories that explain the development of breasts in humans in terms of sexual selection. I've always found that reasoning a bit strange, because 1) as far as I know, in nature is the female that chooses the male, who flaunts ornamental characters 2) not every man instinctively feels arousal when he sees breasts (not every man is fascinated by buttocks too...), and as someone stated before me breasts are not considered a sexual attraction at all in many societies 3) following the theories used by ethologists an the likes to explain the evolution of exagerated features used to sexually attract the other sex, if breasts' shape were really an example of that wouldn't most of the females in the world have big breasts?
Having said that, if you wanted to explain why they can be so big and rounded in humans, I think you'd have to have a look at their function in relation to how the child is fed and erect posture: I believe that quite a lot of scientists have demonstrated how having big fleshy appendages to feed from prevents a baby from suffocating and is comfortable for both the mother and the child for breastfeeding while the mother is standing completely erect; also, big breasts represent an advantage in situations in which the mother has to feed in water, because they float well.

Now, here come my two cents about men's general attraction to breasts: if we take it generally, I don't think that there's ever been a competition between breasts and hips and buttocks etc etc; the only thing they have all have in common is the fact that they are curvy, curvy like the physionomy which is a product of the natural selection of bodies that could generate non-dead babies. So, I think that a general fascination for the ability to give life is translatable into a fascination for the rounded quality of a women's body. Prehistoric men were definitely fascinated by it and by fat too, because a bit of fat is required to ovulate and to support your baby if there's not much food around. Society has changed since then (for example, ancient statues' fat is not a-ok anymore) but some things are hard to forget :)

MissDumpling:

Tatter:

Is that in the drug context, the sexual context, or just the plain old landscaping context? Man, it's hard to answer a simple question these days.

Yep. Hitting on someone else's girl

Oh that I would nev-... well, I might. I believe in two rules Casanova established:

1. Not when He is there.
2. One at a time.

Never when it is a friend, though. That's just a no-no. Mostly because I value friendships a lot, a lot more than a bit of flirtation.

...I mean this with a bit of a tongue-in-cheek, honestly.

smallharmlesskitten:
Here is my view on what men, like me think of the femal anatmony

this first: http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20071231
then this: http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20080102

remember follow that specific order or it is waster

This is my view, alternatively: http://jeroenstout.net/Sequential/Comfortable/5
I'm not a breast-man. Or an arse-man. The whole 'switch brain off' thing I find so.. silly. I can be entranced by the way someone looks for sure, but going all drooly over your clothes just seems to be a bit.. what's that word? Lobotomised.

MissDumpling:
Dear boys,

What would you consider the 'sexiest song" of all time? Mine personally is Poison by Alice Cooper

[Edit]: Also. What are the general Men rules for Cutting someone else's Grass. I've noticed it doesn't seem to phase those who don' know the girls significant other nor stop them from spanking them in public -.-

Sexiest song in what context? For me, if it's something that's sexy in a romantic more-than-just-sex kind of way, I'd have to go with "Shiska Goddess" from the musical "The Last Five Years". If it's sexy in a less-romantic more pure carnality kind of way, I'd go with "Fat Bottomed Girls" by Queen (yes, I have a strange sense of humor).

On this issue of flirting with another guy's girl, it's a concrete, no holds-barred "no". I've known guys who say that "well, if she's willing to cheat on him, it's his fault for being a bad boyfriend", but I've been in too many situations where my honorable, decent, good, male friends have been hurt by girls who are either a little bit off kilter, or being manipulated. If the relationship fails, you can swoop in to snatch the girl up, but don't be "that guy.

On that same note, I have a question (though I'm male). It's two, but they're interrelated. First, do you feel it's possible to have "friendly" flirting, so flirting without trying to have a relationship, and whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. Second, how do you feel about physical contact (not like touches on the shoulder, but like snuggling) with members of the opposite sex when you don't have romantic interest in them?

cleverlymadeup:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.60427?page=14#477645

I don't disagree that breasts are a clear indicator of fertility (health, age, past child rearing). My disagreement comes in at whether or not they are sexual, which I believe is different from fertility or 'suitability'. And really if breasts are a sexual thing then the lips most certainly are, and they don't show much at all in the ways of fertility.

And my initial reaction to the grass thing was about a lawn... followed by a thought that included a razor... then I stopped that train of thought quickly. I'd say that's not something to encourage.

Seldon2639:
On that same note, I have a question (though I'm male). It's two, but they're interrelated. First, do you feel it's possible to have "friendly" flirting, so flirting without trying to have a relationship, and whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. Second, how do you feel about physical contact (not like touches on the shoulder, but like snuggling) with members of the opposite sex when you don't have romantic interest in them?

Flirting is something that eludes me... as for contact... don't think you'll get to snuggling without being involved honestly.

Snuggling with the opposite sex can be ok, but it depends who, what the relation with them is, and the group context. Some social groups hug a lot. I am part of a larp community, and hugs are a standard way to greet each other. But I wouldn't hug my collegues.

Here is a question; Do you believe in 'soulmates'? And if you do, what is a soulmate, exactly?

For myself- I do not believe in it. I do believe in love, but I don't believe that there is one and only perfect person out there just for me. Love is not only something that just happens, love is also work, and a lot of that.

Girlysprite:
Snuggling with the opposite sex can be ok, but it depends who, what the relation with them is, and the group context. Some social groups hug a lot. I am part of a larp community, and hugs are a standard way to greet each other. But I wouldn't hug my collegues.

Here is a question; Do you believe in 'soulmates'? And if you do, what is a soulmate, exactly?

For myself- I do not believe in it. I do believe in love, but I don't believe that there is one and only perfect person out there just for me. Love is not only something that just happens, love is also work, and a lot of that.

Fair enough, though I didn't really mean cuddling like hugs as a greeting, even kissing on the cheeks, I'm talking curling up with someone. I've only ever done it in a relationship, or with a girl with whom I was trying to form a relationship, so I'm wondering whether it's possible to have contact like that, or other forms of flirting, and still have it be purely platonic from both people.

In my experience, soul mates are based on one part loss, one part faulty memory, and one part wishful thinking. For years I thought that my "soul mate" was a girl I'd known when I was younger, and I convinced myself that she was practically perfect in nearly every way. Even when I was in other relationships, my thoughts would come back to how I'd missed my opportunity, in true romantic comedy fashion, to have her. What was funny was when I finally managed to look at the situation objectively, she was a horrible, selfish, impetuous, person.

People only tend to decide that someone is their true love under a few conditions (in my experience): when they've lost the person, wh