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The_root_of_all_evil
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7411177.stm

I think I may just have had a Who-gasm.

Singing Gremlin
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Now I'll be interested in the effect this has. Couple of episodes lately were somewhat below par (7 days? Clones? What?!), so this could be good.

cleverlymadeup
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that's nothing new, he already said he was stepping down over a year ago, which caused a lot of ppl to whine and cry

i think if he sticks around for longer that david tennant will be the best doctor, currently i rank him #2 above john pewtree but behind tom baker

The_root_of_all_evil
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Did I mention his replacement was the writer of Blink (Weeping Angels), The Empty Child (Are you my mummy?) and The Girl in the Fireplace?
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Saskwach
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The_root_of_all_evil:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7411177.stm

I think I may just have had a Who-gasm.

Soooo, you're saying this is a good thing? Clue me in here, I don't know much about the Doctor or how his production system works.

JJDWilson
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Did anyone enjoy the empty child reference episode before last?

HalfShadow
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Saskwach:

Soooo, you're saying this is a good thing? Clue me in here, I don't know much about the Doctor or how his production system works.

Well, when two Gallifreyans really really love each other...

Singing Gremlin
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JJDWilson:
Did anyone enjoy the empty child reference episode before last?

It made me laugh.

MindBullets
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The_root_of_all_evil:
Did I mention his replacement was the writer of Blink (Weeping Angels), The Empty Child (Are you my mummy?) and The Girl in the Fireplace?

This definitely bodes well.

Foolish Mortal
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I want a t-shirt that says 'the angels have the blue box'.

The_root_of_all_evil
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HalfShadow:

Saskwach:

Soooo, you're saying this is a good thing? Clue me in here, I don't know much about the Doctor or how his production system works.

Well, when two Gallifreyans really really love each other...

Personal Opinion Follows:

RTD is a egomaniacal, dickwad that cannot write a decent story without relying solely on 'death of a family member' 'twist' and makes up shit as he goes along.
Moffat writes stories that have you talking about them for years afterwards and still squealing when you see them again; and STILL manage to be within the spirit of the show; without being set on a bloody London Council Estate.

Sylocat
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Steven Moffat is taking over? Yikes... as brilliant as his episodes have been, I'm not sure I want him helming the whole show...

Quistnix
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When I saw the subject, I thought "Please let it be Moffat, please let it be Moffat." And yes, it proves once again that wishful thinking really works!

Ares Draxus
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Without RTD we wouldn't have new Who and while it is sad to see him go I think his replacement will do a fine job if not a better job than he did. I say good luck Mr. Davies in your future and let Doctor Who continue for decades to come.

madmurch
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The_root_of_all_evil:
RTD is a egomaniacal, dickwad that cannot write a decent story without relying solely on 'death of a family member' 'twist' and makes up shit as he goes along.
Moffat writes stories that have you talking about them for years afterwards and still squealing when you see them again; and STILL manage to be within the spirit of the show; without being set on a bloody London Council Estate.

That is exactly why I've hated so much of the new Doctor Who series. As far as I have seen, RTD simply has no backbone: after massacring the cast at the end of series 1, Magic Rose brought everyone back to life; in the series 2 finale, Rose "died in battle" just like the Devil said... oh, wait, NO SHE DIDN'T! After that, I've only seen a few episodes, and from what I have seen I doubt that very much has changed. After all, he wrote Torchwood. Idiot.

And then there are all the episodes that revolve around screwing up British history... already Shakespeare, Agatha Christie and Queen Victoria had suffered at the hands of poor writers. It won't be long before Doctor Who is revealed to be King Arthur, pulling Excalibur from the stone with his sonic screwdriver; or perhaps he'll lead the British to victory in World War 2 instead of Winston Churchill. Maybe RTD doesn't write these ones (I haven't seen much of the show recently, though the Doctor's Daughter episode almost had a few good elements buried within the rubbish) but since he is the Big Boss of Doctor Who, he clearly approves of them.

Doctor Who needs a shake-up. With RTD gone, I might try watching the next series: who knows, it might try something original and decent. I can but hope.

Larenxis
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The_root_of_all_evil:
Did I mention his replacement was the writer of Blink (Weeping Angels), The Empty Child (Are you my mummy?) and The Girl in the Fireplace?

Those are my favorite episodes; I am in a state of glee.

Melaisis
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Larenxis:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Did I mention his replacement was the writer of Blink (Weeping Angels), The Empty Child (Are you my mummy?) and The Girl in the Fireplace?

Those are my favorite episodes; I am in a state of glee.

I concur; they actually were interesting to watch, and gave a little horror and interest to Saturday nights, rather than just 'O LOOK ALIEN BATTLESHIPS LUL!'.

Gooble
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Those 3 eps were pretty good...but it seems the vast majority you just cant take at all seriously. They're entertaining enough and those potato dudes were pretty cool. I don't know how seriously the old ones were meant to be, so it might just be continuing the trend; but for me they need to make them far more serious, even if it does cut out some of the younger audience.

cleverlymadeup
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madmurch:

That is exactly why I've hated so much of the new Doctor Who series. As far as I have seen, RTD simply has no backbone: after massacring the cast at the end of series 1, Magic Rose brought everyone back to life; in the series 2 finale, Rose "died in battle" just like the Devil said... oh, wait, NO SHE DIDN'T! After that, I've only seen a few episodes, and from what I have seen I doubt that very much has changed. After all, he wrote Torchwood. Idiot.

And then there are all the episodes that revolve around screwing up British history... already Shakespeare, Agatha Christie and Queen Victoria had suffered at the hands of poor writers. It won't be long before Doctor Who is revealed to be King Arthur, pulling Excalibur from the stone with his sonic screwdriver; or perhaps he'll lead the British to victory in World War 2 instead of Winston Churchill. Maybe RTD doesn't write these ones (I haven't seen much of the show recently, though the Doctor's Daughter episode almost had a few good elements buried within the rubbish) but since he is the Big Boss of Doctor Who, he clearly approves of them.

Doctor Who needs a shake-up. With RTD gone, I might try watching the next series: who knows, it might try something original and decent. I can but hope.

ok let's see if i can do this

1 they all "died" at the end of the first series cause christopher eccleston only wanted to do one series, so yeah most had to die

2 rose did die, according to the offcial list, and no he wasn't the devil but the basis for him, you see his spawn in torchwood

3 torchwood is very well written, better than most sci-fi out there today and no he didn't write it, he created it and produces it but like doctor who he doesn't do all the writting

4 as for screwning up british history, have you ever watched any of the old series? screwing up history was par for the course for doctor who, which was designed to teach you about history believe it or not

on the plus side i do have a full length season 16 scarf, it's very warm and long

cleverlymadeup
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Gooble:
Those 3 eps were pretty good...but it seems the vast majority you just cant take at all seriously. They're entertaining enough and those potato dudes were pretty cool. I don't know how seriously the old ones were meant to be, so it might just be continuing the trend; but for me they need to make them far more serious, even if it does cut out some of the younger audience.

no they weren't meant to be all that serious, there's always been a bit of tongue in cheek humour across all the series and doctors

john pewtree would famously says "reversing the positron flow" or "reversing the electron flow" because he didn't want to say a whole bunch of scientific stuff that he couldn't always say

Ares Draxus
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Madmurch, its already been stated that the Doctor is Merlin, not King Arthur. Try watching the Seventh Doctor's episode called "Battlefield." Sylvester McCoy's best episode in my ever so humble opinion.

Kayevcee
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"Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow" was Pertwee's favourite- as you so rightly say he was notoriously bad at technobabble and that was one of the few lines of scientific gibberish he liked the sound of and was willing to repeat out of a script without making a fuss. Shame neutrons aren't polar, innit?

I think Russel T Davies did a fantastic job of bringing back Who and has shown that you can put a fan in charge and still make a commercial success. However, I think we've witnessed the full extent of his playbook by now and the show will be all the more healthy for having a new perspective at the top.

-Nick

conqueror Kenny
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Yes it doesn't seem to be very good anymore probably due to Catherine Tate being in it. Seriously what were they thinking. She can't act.

Ares Draxus
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I thiknb Tate is doing a wonderful job as a companion. Rose and Martha always placed the Doctor on some sort of pedestal, and here comes Donna... knocking him on his arse. I love it.

conqueror Kenny
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But after watching the Catherine Tate Show i just cant stand her. I just keep thinking of the nan when she talks.

Singing Gremlin
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Tate just doesn't seem to work so well to me either. It just seems somehow... not in keeping with the theme. Tate never does fear, and I think unless one character is afraid you can't really click with the fact they are often supposed to be in genuinely terrifying situations.

The_root_of_all_evil
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conqueror Kenny:
But after watching the Catherine Tate Show i just cant stand her. I just keep thinking of the nan when she talks.

I loathed the Catherine Tate show, but I think as an actress she's very good. Her being cute as well (Yes, I know I'm perhaps the only one to think that) does help.

And Cleverly, much as I disagree with your summation, I'm dead jealous you have a Baker scarf. :)

cleverlymadeup
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The_root_of_all_evil:

And Cleverly, much as I disagree with your summation, I'm dead jealous you have a Baker scarf. :)

yes many ppl are, sadly few ppl know what it is, mom was on a knitting kick so i got her to make me one, she likes the season 18 scarf might get her to make me one of those

rayxofxsunshine
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Ares Draxus:
I thiknb Tate is doing a wonderful job as a companion. Rose and Martha always placed the Doctor on some sort of pedestal, and here comes Donna... knocking him on his arse. I love it.

I think I agree with you. I always *hated* Martha. She's so whiny and annoying, and she's jealous of anyone else with any connection to the doctor. I love Rose best, but probably only because she was there for so long and I got used to her. I love how Donna and the doctor interact; I'm glad she got toned down from the Donna Noble in the christmas special. All I can say is, no matter what, I'll still watch the show. So, I'm glad that changes are taking place, and all we can do is hope for the better. That and a cryo pod to keep me asleep until 2010. (it's so far away!)

electric discordian
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conqueror Kenny:
Yes it doesn't seem to be very good anymore probably due to Catherine Tate being in it. Seriously what were they thinking. She can't act.

He was the one that decided she would be a good person and fought for her to return after the god awful christmas special! Russel T Davis occasionally gets it right, he didnt horribly cock up the Sontaran/Unit episode which came as a massive shock. I was expecting UNIT to be rendered entirely impotent by his lazy political correctness.

Oh and Captain Scarlet Im sorry Torchwood, what a pile of pusilanemous crap, the stories lulling lets chuck in some awkward homoerotica, lets make several time travel episodes which virtually all have the same Romeo and Juliet style doomed romance overshadowing the actual plot. Run out of ideas lets lazily kill a central character to prove were edgy and adult!

I have heard theres going to be a spin off with his daughter in it where she joins this family of brothers and they go out rescuing people from crashed aircraft and all live on an island together!

Knight Templar
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If he was behind the orignaly named "dialects in manhattan", you know the Ep. that ruined itself in the first few moments, screwed around with the lore and made pour boiling hot wax in my ears.

Then we should be very happy.

Emmitt_Nervend
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I'm really excited that Doctor Who is getting a fresh start with a new project lead and new doctor when Tennant leaves the cast after the '09 specials.

As much as I love him as the Doctor, I think Tennant's performance is starting to get stale and dull.

Strafe Mcgee
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Stephen Moffat, woot! Out of interest, did anyone else see Coupling, the sitcom he wrote back in 2001? It features the immortal line "I've got the keys to paradise, but I've got too many legs!" It's funny in context, trust me.

Heh. On the whole companionn thing, I think that Donna's actually the best and I've been surprised at how good an actress Catherine Tate is. Martha is undoubtedly the worst, continually fawning over the Doctor and whining about anything and everything in that particularly annoying accent she has whilst Rose, though good, was slightly too helpless at times. Donna's far more fun than either, and as someone mentioned before, knocks the Doctor about all over the place. Which is fun.

Clairabel
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I'm so glad he's going. Stephen Moffat is a leg-end and I can't wait to see what he does with it. I hope Mr Tennant stays around though. As for Catherine Tate, I like her in this. Better than Martha, slightly better than Rose.

As for the Coupling reference... I LOVE THAT LINE!!

cleverlymadeup
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electric discordian:

I have heard theres going to be a spin off with his daughter in it where she joins this family of brothers and they go out rescuing people from crashed aircraft and all live on an island together!

funny part about that character is that's peter davidson's daughter, so she literally is the doctor's daughter

and i've heard otherwise, they have enough spinoffs with torchwood and the sarah jane chronicles

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