2012
so for the second time in my life im told the worlds going to end, it perplexes me. true or untrue it really puts life into perspective, that whether it comes in 2012 or 6 billion years from now this world isnt endless, but life is. life perseveres no matter what. it has for billions of years and it will continue for eternity. then theres time, time we all know what it is but can we describe it if somebody never had time never knew it could we explain what it was to them. for some reason time doesnt feel so light, so endless, as if it was more important as if every hour now counted more had more weight each time. what if that day does come the fateful December 21st 2012 every person knowing the heavyness that surrounds them the tense air, that sense that at any moment everything they know could cease to exist. but more importantly what if December 22nd comes, will we learn anything from our brush with death. Y2K didnt teach us anything, to add value to time, to appreciate it more and put more weight on our actions, our consequences as it relates to time. they say everybody who has stared death in the eye feels a sense of urgency to make the time they do have left the best it could be. maybe all of us should be that way, whether the end comes or not.

ya I've heard a lot about that too and it's scary how many people believe it because personally i think it won't happen but i think like you said maybe we should start taking things a bit into perspective and learn from what has happened

It just so happens that I think that the best way to spend my life is playing games and talking a lot. That's mostly what I've been doing. If the world ends, I'll be fine with that.

then thats okay as long as you feel its whats right for you. the last thing you want before the end of the world is regrets.

2012? That prediction by Aztecs, which is beleived by Christians, and was first brought up in what, America?
There's everything wrong when it comes to that so called "prediction". Why would Christians beleive what Aztecs predicted? And how would they get the year 2012? Anyone remember Y2K? Wasn't that also only beleived by America? (No? yes?)
Point is, America loves negativity and the idea of the apocolypse, it's tools for making people convert to Christianity.

Edit: Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside. <(^.^)>

There goes the PS4 and 720.

I don't believe this will happen but I do know one that does but even he doesn't let it change his life.

I'd just like to say the reason Y2k never happened was because of the bug fixing, it's not the same.
Not that I believe the world will end in 2012, it wont.

So...I don't get it are we supposed to be discussing the end of the world in 2012, or are we supposed to be answering your preachings on time saving? Not wanting to sound like a complete jackarse, but I'm a little confused as to the purpose of this thread.

Anyway, no I don't think the world will simply seize to function when the clock strikes 12 midnight in 2012. The whole concept that the world will simply end and all forms of life will just die in one instant gathered from some old book that's been rewritten a thousand times on a calender that's been revised a quite a few times as well is dumb, for a lack of a better word.

As to the 'cherish the moment' thing, yes I agree. We should just stop and think about what we are doing sometimes and enjoy life, but we should also look to the future with optimism and be happy with ourselves. That's what's most important to me. Woah I think I preached just now, damn I was hoping not to do that.

im not sure really, i thought something and i put it on paper, or thread to see what people would make of it. i personally dont really believe in it the only scientific thing that ive heard about it is that maybe the polarity of the earth will be reversed.

TheNecroswanson:
2012? That prediction by Aztecs, which is beleived by Christians, and was first brought up in what, America?
There's everything wrong when it comes to that so called "prediction". Why would Christians beleive what Aztecs predicted? And how would they get the year 2012? Anyone remember Y2K? Wasn't that also only beleived by America? (No? yes?)
Point is, America loves negativity and the idea of the apocolypse, it's tools for making people convert to Christianity.

Edit: Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside. <(^.^)>

Well the Aztecs did predict the year there civilization get's demolished

Soooo uh... I haven't read much about this whole world ending thing, but any mention of how it's gonna end?

My money's on aliens.

Besides, it wouldn't be the worst way for the world to end. The only time you ever see humans put their petty differences aside and forget about borders / colors / religious disagreements / etc, is when there's a common enemy uniting them.

I mean, just look at gangs.

They kill each other cause they're from different streets, or cities.
They get put into jail, where people commonly separate themselves into groups depending on ethnicity. Gang colors don't matter anymore.
Then if a war breaks out. Suddenly everyone's bonded under the same flag. As soldiers, we don't care what background the guy covering our back is from, as long as he's wearing the same uniform.

The next step up from "national" is "global", so as crazy as it sounds, maybe if something like a global crisis were to happen, it'd be what humanity needs in order to stop putting such emphasis on the trivial things we like to fight over.

And I'm starting to rant, so I'm shutting up now...

Another one? o.0
First it was the LHC now it's this, is there an emo movement on these boards or something?
The world is not going to end(not now anyways for those who were going to be dicks about my wording)

EDIT: I live every day to its fullest already, if you live every day to its fullest just because the end of the world is near then you've wasted alot of time and it says alot about you.

We'll all die in 2012 if the LHC doesnt kill us first.

Eh, just people putting a negative twist on something that the Mayan's saw as a joyous time. It's supposed to be the end of the Great Cycle.

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle" says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

http://www.dailycommonsense.com/2012-explained-why-it-shouldnt-be-feared/
There's other sites that discuss it, but you get the idea.

Just more "the sky is falling!" nonsense made to capitalize on people's fear of mortality.

WlknCntrdiction:
Another one? o.0
First it was the LHC now it's this, is there an emo movement on these boards or something?
The world is not going to end(not now anyways for those who were going to be dicks about my wording)

EDIT: I live every day to its fullest already, if you live every day to its fullest just because the end of the world is near then you've wasted alot of time and it says alot about you.

Thank you... Thank you so much my good sir

people also predicted that Jesus would come again in 2000

the world isnt ending. if it is, i wil lbe the first to rub it in global warming's stupid face

"we beat you! you didnt win! we died first"

TheNecroswanson:
2012? That prediction by Aztecs, which is beleived by Christians, and was first brought up in what, America?
There's everything wrong when it comes to that so called "prediction". Why would Christians beleive what Aztecs predicted? And how would they get the year 2012? Anyone remember Y2K? Wasn't that also only beleived by America? (No? yes?)
Point is, America loves negativity and the idea of the apocolypse, it's tools for making people convert to Christianity.

Edit: Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside. <(^.^)>

How is it that people in this forum get put on probation for trying to compare the Jedi and Master Chief, but when someone makes a post insulting an entire culture and an entirely seperate religion based on complete fucking ignorance there is no response?

It's weird, really... and seems to happen a lot... fucking hypocritical is what it is...

Really getting tired of these doomsday threads. The world won't end until I say so...

TheNecroswanson:
Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside. <(^.^)>

I have a new avatar? Would it be Father Grigori, by any chance? This is important.

Apocalypse predections have been around for Millenia.
In the year 1000, The Gauls all thought they were going to die since it had been 1000 years since the death of Jesus.

It's funny, Assassins creed made me look this up and the world ending is all garbage. The mayans predicted an age ending and a new one beginning not the end of the world. However, there is merit in their prediction. Turns out on december 21st, 2012 the sun and the Earth aligns with the horizontal disk of our galaxy. last time this happened around 5000 years ago the first major civilisations of humanity showed up. So who knows, maybe something big will happen to advance society.

Frankly, I'm looking forward to it.

God I hope it is the end. I'm tired of people screaming "The end is nigh!!"

KamikazeSailor:

TheNecroswanson:
2012? That prediction by Aztecs, which is beleived by Christians, and was first brought up in what, America?
There's everything wrong when it comes to that so called "prediction". Why would Christians beleive what Aztecs predicted? And how would they get the year 2012? Anyone remember Y2K? Wasn't that also only beleived by America? (No? yes?)
Point is, America loves negativity and the idea of the apocolypse, it's tools for making people convert to Christianity.

Edit: Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside. <(^.^)>

How is it that people in this forum get put on probation for trying to compare the Jedi and Master Chief, but when someone makes a post insulting an entire culture and an entirely seperate religion based on complete fucking ignorance there is no response?

It's weird, really... and seems to happen a lot... fucking hypocritical is what it is...

This isn't exactly ignorant. I've actually had people try to convert me to christianity because of this.
However, I did know some Germans who believed in the Y2K thing. So it wasn't only Americans.

I gotta laugh everytime I see this subject, since the Aztecs didn't predict the end of the world or civilization or anything else, all they did on this subject was create a calendar that ended in 2012.

Based on that evidence, on the wall of my computer "dungeon" (where I spend a plethora of time killing cyber AI enemies) there is a calendar from the supreme being of time (aka the local drug store that sends them out every year) and it ends on December 31, 2008, in light of such overwhelming evidence as a calendar that ends on a particular day, I suggest you play hard, you only have 6 months and about a week before the end of time, after all that is when the great drugstore calendar ends.

If you listened to all of the lunatics raving in the streets, you'd see that the world was supposed to end about a hundred times by now.

It's not going to happen.

Anomynous 167:
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Well the Aztecs did predict the year there civilization get's demolished

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

Btw everyone this is the Maya calender we're talking about.

urgh, what is it about some people that makes them leap at the chance to become smug preachy millinarians at the first oppertunity?

I don't see this happenning, a world doens't end like that! If the mayans saw this coming, why can't we? Maybe it was just there predictions, but precdictions can be wrong. 21st dec 2012 will just be another day with kids waiting for Santa. This kind of stuff does put a weight on the mind though.. But in the end (no pun intended) that is just their prediction.

ok the whole thing is it's not the end of the world, it's their calendar ends on that day. i forget which one of their calendars ends because they used a couple, funnily enough more accurate than ours were, we've only just caught up to them.

it's a great tool that ppl use to claim doomsday but the fact is they didn't make a new calendar because their civilization collapsed and was forced to become christian, well the ones that weren't killed by disease or our right slaughtered.

so no the world won't end on that day, maybe some odd and cool celestial event but not the end of the world.

on a funny side note, if you play with the dates a bit, the final battle of the macross (robotech) series is on dec 21 2012

I don't think that the Mayans predicted that this year was the end of the world. i just think that they predicted that there culture would die out by then. i mean if i was making a calendar then ended eventually i would make sure it ended way past when i was gone.

Ok lets say 2012 is real. There is one thing that will stop it and save us all. CHUCK NORRIS!

To all those who believe the world will end, i can see 2 problems:
A) How did the Mayan's/Aztec's figure that 2012 will be our doom
B) They based their idea on the fact that this happens every 5000 years, the turnover of the callender and the new begining... they were around over 5000 years ago... i still see a problem

It wasn't the end of their calendar; Dec 21, 2012 is just when the Mayan calendar changes epochs. It's like all those god-botherers who got all fussed over 1999-2000, or 999-1000 looking back in historical records.

However, I'm seriously tempted to start selling end-of-the-world kits to the gullible and pounding the drums over every possible doomday looming. Anybody know when the Chinese calendar gets all inauspicious-like?

-- Steve

Anomynous 167:

TheNecroswanson:
2012? That prediction by Aztecs, which is beleived by Christians, and was first brought up in what, America?
There's everything wrong when it comes to that so called "prediction". Why would Christians beleive what Aztecs predicted? And how would they get the year 2012? Anyone remember Y2K? Wasn't that also only beleived by America? (No? yes?)
Point is, America loves negativity and the idea of the apocolypse, it's tools for making people convert to Christianity.

Edit: Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside. <(^.^)>

Well the Aztecs did predict the year there civilization get's demolished

Unfortunately there is more then just one prediction of the worlds end on 2012...
There were several civilizations that couldn't "predict" past this date. There were seers in Rome, the Aztecs, uhhh (this one is wierd) Merlin himself? (don't ask lol), and some other cultures. Most who had no such contact with the other, yet came up with the same exact date.
I don't believe any of them predicted any sort of "The world ends", more or less that a change would come that they could not predict/see past. Oh, and the Mayan calendar is noted for how completely accurate it is, some would say more accurate than our own calendars. Which is why when their calendar mysteriously "ends" on 12/21/12 and they couldn't see past that date, people get worried.

As for the Christians, they just believe some 666 will rise (which several of people named "666" have, and nothing has come) and the world will end. They don't have a "certain date", as far as I remember.

Ughh, that was a bit of a long post. Correct me if I'm wrong about any of that, most of it is coming straight from memory.

Anton P. Nym:
It wasn't the end of their calendar; Dec 21, 2012 is just when the Mayan calendar changes epochs. It's like all those god-botherers who got all fussed over 1999-2000, or 999-1000 looking back in historical records.

However, I'm seriously tempted to start selling end-of-the-world kits to the gullible and pounding the drums over every possible doomday looming. Anybody know when the Chinese calendar gets all inauspicious-like?

-- Steve

Hmmm, that's actual quite interesting. Know of any web-sites? I'm very very interested in this sort of history.