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Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1549 Joined: 5 Dec 2007    | To be honest being a fotball enthusiast is alot more socialy and fysicaly engaging then gaming. I watch it with friends and try to be a good sport about it but I can't say I like it. |
Muckraker  Posts: 284 Joined: 5 Feb 2008     | To be honest, I don't like to watch sports in general. I'm willing to play but I don't really find any interest in watching to discover the intricacies in a sport. Actually, I think it's just my general lack of interest in sports. Some people may find the mechanics of the sport enticing, much like one is enticed by the coordination in American Football or the techniques used by a virtuoso violinist. It is also the reason we have critics of all kinds in the world. Someone will have an affinity for something but will not bother to participate fully (well, sometimes they don't) and instead sit back with a handful of vitriolic criticism. *cough* YAHTZEE *cough* (Then again he's done some adventure games) I might be stretching this too far, because I may as well be comparing a college fratboy to Ambrose Bierce. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 | But you can easily go out and play football with your mates, that would be way more socially and physically engaging than watching it eating heart inducing snacks and chugging down gallons of booze. @Arntor: I don't like watching sports in general either, I like playing them as much as I can, even though I can't shoot for shit I enjoy just having a kick about with mates. I miss the days of dodgeball at my junior school though, I was always the last person left, playing an extreme sport like that would be physically demanding. Actually I think I might write a letter to my local counsel and find out if I can get funding for a dodgeball club:D |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 714 Joined: 6 Apr 2008 |
Eh? Sitting around all day on your ass? Though....I guess both pastimes are guilty of that. Anyway, nope, can't say I like it either. But then, I don't really know anything about it so I can't make an honest judgement. Only that I'm not into it. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 163 Joined: 21 Apr 2008  | Well I have to be honest. I'm a pretty hardcore football supporter (what is known as an ultra) I support FC. Copenhagen, the best team in Denmark, and I love a good match anytime. It can be pretty hard to understand ofr outsiders, but that goes for gamers as well. Why do we spend many hours inside playing games (sex anyone? ;)). The thing that keeps me coming to the matches is indeed the "athmoshphere". I go to matches with a group of people with the same attitude towards supporting the team as I, and that's really what makes it so awesome. We stand up for 90 minutes, chanting, singing and making gestures, and it's just fun. You get chaught up in the whole game. Dancing around signing and so on. It makes perfect sense, since it's all about being part of a group. When we're at the stadium, the flags, chants, songs and so on, signifies that we support copenhagen and thus becomes a part of the city and an identity, a sort of imagined community. We are "copenhagen". We represent the city, and we become part of a common identity. The same goes for the national teams. It's really a matter of, if you can "dig it" ;). It sounds like you can't, and then it can be hard to understand it. But as I said: Same goes for videogames and music or films for example. If you don't "get it", it can be hard to explain. Hopes this helps :) Uskis |
Muckraker  Posts: 330 Joined: 3 Jan 2008   | I hate watching it as well. They players move 10 feet then it takes 10 minutes to explain what happened and gear up for the next phaze. It's very boring. It's a lot more fun to play it with friends and informally. It's never fun for me when taken seriously |
Muckraker Posts: 284 Joined: 5 Feb 2008 | Likewise I can't see why anyone would want to have sex every single moment of his life and thus, causing more babies to overpopulate the planet. EDIT: Apart from it being fun that is. |
Beat Writer Posts: 163 Joined: 21 Apr 2008 | Stuff like this just gives me goose bumbs. this is the athmosphere "they" talk about. It's a Turkish team by the name of "Fenerbache". |
Muckraker  Posts: 275 Joined: 25 May 2008   | Well pretty much everything OP said plus the fact that it's the only sport dragging about such a violent bandwagon. Damned hooligans. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Assumptions are never a good thing. Just because we're posting on a gaming site doesn't mean we spend all day sitting indoors playing games(I know I most certainly don't), so don't assume and stereotype us like that. |
Muckraker Posts: 284 Joined: 5 Feb 2008 |
Definitely, Dodgeball was what me and my friends played all day back then before the teachers started banning it on the playgrounds.(And not P.E.) :[ I also have a liking towards street hockey, but as of yet, I've found no one to play with. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 538 Joined: 10 Sep 2007   |
Hypocrites are boring. |
Muckraker  Posts: 294 Joined: 13 Jan 2008 |
If you want to watch 22 grown men have sex for 90 minutes the internet is already in front of you ;) |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Yeah, because I was assuming there wasn't I? Maybe I should have been more specific then, there's assuming and then there's knowing this happens, granted not everyone who watches football is obese but football is watched with booze closely following behind, even moreso in pubs. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4622 Joined: 13 Feb 2008     | I'd rather eat my own earwax. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Lol. It's quite hard to avoid the football fever when the world cup comes around, everyone is chatting about it, it's hard to have a conversation about something that is actually important. "Omg, fuel prices have risen again" "That's nothing, you should've seen Ronaldo last night with that goal, shockingly beautiful" "¬_¬" |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1549 Joined: 5 Dec 2007 |
I definately agree that when large amounts of people get distracted by entertainment you should try to stomp out all their fun! WORK PEASANTS! |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Not stomp out all their fun but then don't be oblivious to what's going on around them. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 538 Joined: 10 Sep 2007 |
I was actually referring to the way you got all heated up about someone using the words "many hours" when talking about gaming time, when, presumably, football fans would also spend "many hours" watching football. Do I really have to explain to you how childish you're being? Surely you can see it for yourself? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1549 Joined: 5 Dec 2007 |
I think most people are quite aware about rising fuel prices, can't they have something to be happy about? Besides, most gamers I know are also guilty of talking way to much about their interest (guilty as charged). |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
True. Can't argue with that. But then there are other things that are actually fun that they can be happy about, surely football can't be the only thing they can be happy about, surely? |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 538 Joined: 10 Sep 2007 |
Are you even trying to make sense, or is this just trolling people who aren't there? I honestly can't believe I'm having to say this to someone above the age of three, but: some people enjoy things that you don't. This does not give you the right to look down on them. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 81 Joined: 7 May 2008 | I hate football, Cricket I love, and I can live quite happily reading about the days play online when I finish work but football, and most other sports, grone. What I hate is the fact that everything has to be put aside for bloody sport, example Pushing Daisies. I saw the first episode on ITV and thourght wonderful, a decent original program rather than another fucking talent contest that seem to be the driving force of UK television right now, but then it was announced that the second episode would not be shown because Euro 2008 was more important, even though none of the local teams would be playing. However as much as I hate that this is done for football, I can forgive it because at most its three hours worth of dead time for me, and it is fairly infrequent, tennis, particularlly those happy two weeks when they play in London, last monday, five hours on BBC 1 and BBC 2, at the same time, who the hell does the director general hire? Even when I could watch the cricket, I was happy watching infrequently for about 30 minutes every two hours rather than spend a whole day glued to a single game, as I had other things to do, so once again, just a half hour program of the days highlights would have been fine for me, and for those who hate the game, something better to watch, who loses in this senario?. This is what gets my goat, television networks dropping everything to show several weeks of solid sport without any form of compensation for those of us who don't watch it, or can live happily reading the highlights, its not fair is it, someone anounces their not going to show a cup final, they would be forced to resign and an apology would be issued. I ended up ordering the Pushing Daises DVD instead of watching it on TV as I was so disgusted with ITV, then just before the broadcast of the final episode they anounced I could watch the second one online, it would have been nice to have been told this eight weeks ago but that was proberly too much like hard work for the ITV bosses. P.S. I have no understanding of the offside rule myself, but then not many people know all ten methods an cricket batsman can be declaired out so its a nice balance in my book. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4622 Joined: 13 Feb 2008 |
I believe he was talking hypothetically. There's no need for flames. |
Muckraker  Posts: 306 Joined: 29 Feb 2008   | You cant just "pick a team to support" and expect to start feeling what most fans who following the team and support them for most there lives feel, and you cant say its all about money you can see the emotion from the fans players and mangers during games players are generally disappointed when they play bad, and there has to be more to it than 22 men kicking a ball for 90 minutes to have an entire crowed of 100,000 people to be silent for one kick. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Using the example that sammyfreak brought up, even I'm guilty of talking about games a little too much but even when Halo 3 came out or if there is a major game release it won't be the only thing I'm talking about. With football it's all anyone ever talks about, that's why I asked if there was anything else they talk about. I'm not looking down on anyone, they can enjoy their football, I hate that it takes the spotlight all the time though when(like A Username Not In Use, god what a mouthful lol)I want to actually watch quality tv(of which is slowly dwindling). I'll just go do something else when the world cup whirls around, no big deal. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 619 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
I don't generally like watching sports fullstop. I like playing sports, why waste my time watching them? I can understand you've supported Liverpool for a long time but I can't understand how people can feel for them or feel genuinely sad when their team loses, it quite simply boggles my mind on all levels. But then again feelings aren't always logical and I would be wasting my time if I tried to figure out why people feel the way they do about "their" teams. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 87 Joined: 9 Feb 2008 | Whats wrong with liking football? Admittedly it may tap into primitive aspects of human psychology like tribalism but its just another diversion in a society build upon the lesuire industry now. Also you state sex as being a better use of time than watching football but surely thats a more primal instinct than that of these football hooligans? "You're watching 22 grown men running around a pitch kicking a ball about." Its easy to deconstruct anything like that, like gaming is just mashing some buttons or painting is just digging a brush into some pigments and slapping it about. In all these cases there is a dedication towards learning the technique required and a devotion to improving your ability in the field. Theres a great deal of skill required (and appreciated by many watchers)in football. I'll admit an emotional connection can enhance the experience immeasurably but that is part of the appeal. I'm half spanish so all the frustrated hopes so far with the spanish national team along with the association made tonights game far more to me than a game of football, it is also what the industry feeds off. Football is possibly one of the only buisnesses that consistently makes a profit at extortianate prices regardless of the quality of the product so the emotional ties that fans have to a club is taken advantage of. Btw, WalknCntrdiction. If you think atmosphere is a few beers with mates then thats nothing, try going to a real match (not arsenal, they are awful in regards to fan support). Oh, and in regards to the superioty of playing the sport yourself rather than watching, again the pleasure of viewing superior technique and tactics come in. Despite your own level of proficiency is most things, you still can enjoy hugely seeing it done better. An amateur guitarist wouldn't look haughtily at the chance to see jimi hendrix as you do on seeing people far better at football than you. Anyway, this is too much of a rant, I could go on but I'll spare you all that. I think most of the OP's points are misinformed and although I do concede there is certainly a matter of taste in appreciation of watching sports, you should at least experience a live game with good atmosphere before judging. |
So it's Germany against Spain tonight(as I'm sure many of you know), I only know through word of mouth and the tension is at an all time high. Here's the thing though, I hate football. "Why?", you may ask well it's simple really.
1. You're watching 22 grown men running around a pitch kicking a ball about.
2. There's easily more better, fun(and important)things you can do for 90 minutes, have sex anyone?
3. I don't feel an "emotional" attachment for people I don't know who get paid gazillions for doing something a child could do, albeit alot better. When Arsenal score my brother practically jumps and whoops for joy, my uncle is even worse, luckily they haven't both been in the same room yet, thank god.
4. Fights fans get into over football are stupid and childish, do you think the team you support gives two shits? Really? Do they? No, they don't, it's all about the money.
5. I never understood why some people say "It's never about the football now, it's about the money". Since when was it about anything else? You're talking about football as if it's a way of life or something important. And since when were footballer reliable role models? I would much rather look up to someone who actually contributes to the community and does something significant, what do footballers do? You guessed right, they kick balls about, what a great role model for our kids. Not.
6. Wouldn't it be better to actually play football? Rather than sit down with a six pack of beer and watch it? Surely no wonder so many people are obese, instead of wanting to go out and have a kick about with friends which could benefit your health you would rather sit at home and watch the game on tv. you could be doing so much more in those 90 minutes.
7. Atmosphere. This word gets chucked in my face so many times(2974 times including today now)and is the word used to describe the euphoria of watching a football match. They say if you can't beat them join them so I watched(well tried to watch)a game. I picked a team to "support", check, beer(even though I hate it), check, load, rowdy bunch of friends, check, remote, check, HD TV, check, let's begin.
15 minutes in and I'm asleep, I can't do it, I can't hack it, I don't know how people go through this shit, seriously.
I'm not jealous of footballers, kudos to them earning millions for something everyone can do, but football is gravely overrated. I feel they should do a study like those ones where it says "We spend such and such time of our entire lives in bed" or something like that except entitle it, "Such and such of our entire lives is spent sitting in front of a tv watching two teams kicking a ball about and actually thinking that those playing care about you", I would donate money to have them conduct a survey on that.
So do you hate football? If you do then why? Similarly if you don't then please explain why? I just don't understand what's so good about it.
P.S. I understand the off-side rule so don't try to be a smart ass.
/rant.