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Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008     | |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
Sometimes I look at work and school and just think about what the point of it all is. I do all of that to get a job, to make money and to be happy. But shouldn't I instead spend the time working to be happy, being happy? If I like lazing about, shouldn't I just do that permanently. I would if I could, but the basic guidelines of the universe would make it a pretty damned hard thing to do. But regardless, I'm still going to d my bst t enjoy every step of the way. |
Paperboy  Posts: 48 Joined: 18 Jun 2008   |
that's the thing, man, do you think maybe happieness is just a state of mind? maybe we only work towards it to get a sense of accomplshment. being happy may be as simple as thinking happy thoughts, you know, the evil eye theory. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1599 Joined: 13 Dec 2007     | So far, it seems like the meaning of life is creation. Honestly though, I don't think life needs a meaning. If it's just a blip in the chaos, I enjoy it just the same. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3353 Joined: 2 Dec 2007    |
At least we're the only animals that watch movies and play games so I think we're doing well for ourselves. Go humans! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2493 Joined: 8 May 2008  |
What happen to the master race velociraptors? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3353 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 |
Their games pray on the suffering on others. They don't watch TV, they're too busy tearing up your pet dog. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2493 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Not Fluffy! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1308 Joined: 3 Mar 2008    | Humanity would be nothing without thumbs. If chimps didn't develop converse elongations on their hands, we would still be being chased after by nasties in Africa. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1582 Joined: 4 Nov 2007 |
The time has come and I have awoken. I am coming for you. Yes you. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 181 Joined: 22 Jan 2008 | *deleted* |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 82 Joined: 14 Jun 2008 | The meaning of life : There isnt one, the real philisophical debate should be why do people insist of finding a meaning to life. People look for there hole lifetime, asking what do we do? A Bee creates honey and pollunates. What is a bee's meaning of life? Its certinly not them, that just what they do. What im trying to get at here is there is no meaning of life unless to create one for yourself. Then then become your meaning of life, not everyones. |
Muckraker  Posts: 281 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 |
Heres the crazy thing. Do you know what 42 means? Its the number to chromozomes that all humans the are able to reproduce have. |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
But that's the beutiful yet tragic thing about mankind as a species. We don't just "DO" we think, we think about consequences, we wonder why, we wonder what if, we wonder so much, yet most of the time never find an answer. And sadly, some people will die unfulfilled if they don't just stop and go: WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT A MEANING? But then again, maybe its like the old proverb says: Life's a joke, and death's the punchline. If life has taught me anything, if there is a God, he definitely has a decent sense of humor. Sick and twisted humor in some cases, but at the end of the day, it's still pretty funny. |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
K, and PHI is the golden number that transcends most of the human body and mother nature, but if there is a meaning to life, (prolly isn't) it wouldn't really be a number, especially not a human one, or one based around human chromosomes. |
Muckraker Posts: 281 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 |
cant you just have little fun with life man. way to be a mood killer |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
Lol sorry, I just don't really want to get into the whole math/meaning of life/number 23 thing, I thought that that was what you were aiming for, my bad. But anyways, I do have fun with life, a whole lot of fun, but I just want to adapt my understanding of life itself, theology itself and everything, I want your viewpoint on it, or any interesting theories you've heard, so get cracking! |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 563 Joined: 1 Jan 2008  |
I thought this was The Escapist, not The Conspirator. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 84 Joined: 29 Apr 2008 | Being the kind of reflective person I am i always enjoy an opportunity to give other people an insight into my thoughts and beliefs. Here goes: Life has no meaning. That's it, full stop. The only reason mankind has started the beliefs of higher entities, deities, god and meanings is it's fear of uncertainty. Most people would prefer their life to be a straight corridor leaving them no choice at all. Very few people like myself realise the great potential and freedom that arises once you free yourself of the romantic belief into higher meanings or a deeper sense. To do this you have to accept that you and only you are responsible for your actions with all their consequences but once you learn to accept that it has the advantage of realising that you can perform and achieve everything in your life. The main reason why most people enjoy their lifes in their corridors is because the unlimited space of potential and possibilities everyone of us has scares them. Which leads me to the one belief that this logic has led me to: The belief in the unlimited power of the human mind. I would be glad if i could tell you that i would have managed to break the barriers of fear that continue to limit my potential, but to be honest i'm still on my way. I hope that i will be able to free myself of all fears and realize the full extent of my potential somewhen, until then i take comfort in the fact that i have at least begun a journey most people never start in their life, and in the fact that I was able to write all of this even thought english is not my mother tongue. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1030 Joined: 11 Jun 2008 | i think that the biggest misconception about this topic is the idea that we are meant to be happy. happiness is a moment, not a continual state of existence. you need sad, angry, and boring moments in order for the happy moments to be as good as they are. i believe contentment is the real thing that people should be trying to acheive. |
Muckraker  Posts: 289 Joined: 17 Jun 2008  | I think that searching for any meaning in life is a futile effort. It's something people do because they're convinced that they're "special", that their life matters in some way. But the truth is none of our lives really matter. We really are just one species that came about on a small planet in a huge universe. We will not live forever with a God, we will live and then die. The only meaning you can give to your life is one you make for yourself. It's a meaning that will die once your memory dies, but it's the only meaning you could hope to find. Really wouldn't the best thing to give your life "meaning" would be as infamous/famous as possible? That's the only way you can truly be immortal in any way, if your legend lives on. I'm not talking famous like Paris Hilton or someone that 200 years from now no one will give a shit about, but someone that had a huge impact on the world as we know it (Einstein, Hitler, Jesus etc.) They're life gave something to the world to remember, no matter if it was good or evil, they're memory has a good chance at becoming immortal. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 84 Joined: 29 Apr 2008 |
Glad to meet someone who shares my belief in the true nature of happiness. To my mind the concept of the christian heaven for example sounds more like hell to me. I think that every feeling we know can only exist because we also know it's exact oppossite. Happiness and Love feels so good because we know that it can be over any moment and replaced with Sadness and Hate. The concept of leaving only the good feelings while erasing the bad ones could never happen, if Happiness would last forever, which is the only thing it could do when there would be no other feeling, it would cease being the feeling we know and reduced to a state of neutrality. And this neutrality would last forever. I would gladly pick the state of nonexistence over this one |
BANNED  Posts: 45 Joined: 20 Jun 2008 | The meaning of life is simply to make babies. Without this there would be no life thus no meaning to it. The more the merrier in my opinion. If every single person refused our natural needs then in roughly one hundred years there would be no humans to ponder on this subject. All in all, the meaning of life is to maintain and create life. Life should be our top priority and we should be more worried about global warming and pollution than what's happening in celebrity news which is what people these days seem to care about. So what if we aren't around when the world goes to complete shit rather than slightly shit, we should still protect the future generations from non-existance but no, we need to waste fuel on 4x4s to drive half a mile to tescos. I should be a politician... User was banned for: What are your favorite web-sites?. (Permanent) |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 367 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 | The Meaning of life? I'd say to find contentment, but I think in the moment before I die the true awnser will hit me just because that'd be ironically hilarious. |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
That's exactly how I feel about happiness, and have mentioned it before. Happiness is only available with suffering and pain. The Eden analogy of the Bible is about Mankind's discordance with constant happiness. If we were always happy, would it ever be happy? No it would just be the normal. So pain is there and suffering is there and work is there to make those bouts of happiness all the sweeter. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3353 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 |
Uh oh. I has a cookie if you doesn't eat me. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2260 Joined: 21 Jan 2008   | I thought of this when I was younger, and have come to a conclusion: The meaning of life is to continue our existence. I know it ain't grand and philosophical and all, but it makes sense considering our drive to reproduce and continue on our existence and that of our family. Of course, I will most likely be proven wrong... |
Paperboy  Posts: 16 Joined: 6 Jul 2008 | Being Atheist as well as a "nerd" I would like to add something. In regards to the "what if" stuff, yes, its entirely possible as the human brain is not fully understood, so the brain could percieve my blue as your purple. Science says otherwise, being that each frequency produces a certain color, however the absence of light is black, and the presence of all primary colors makes white. Again, though, people's brains percieve things differently, how do you know my white isnt your red?. It's impossible to tell, and may actually explain the horrid paint jobs on alot of cars. If you dont accept the brain can see colors differently, then think of it this way: A dog will only ever see shades and mixes of yellow and blue, having dichromatic vision (meaning their primary colors are only yellow and blue), some color-blind people suffer from this as well, and some are even monochromatic (black and white). These people see this as normal, what I see as dark-ish gray, they see as blue. A "normal person"'s vision is trichromatic, or Red Green and Blue as primary colors. This will change our view on the world dramatically from one persons to the other's. Perception ALWAYS overrules science. Gravity tells us which direction is down, that is science, but in space there is no gravity, so what we percieve is down, is our down, and maybe someone elses left. Another example is before America was discovered, people thought the world was flat, we know this not to be true NOW, but according to their primitive science, it was true, and accepted. They also thought the sun revolved around the earth, again we know this not to be true now, but again, perception overrules science. Also, as for the meaning of life: It's all about choices in my belief. And finally, as for "42" being the meaning of life, it's not. It never was. It was the answer to life, the universe, and everything (IIRC), the meaning of life is an entirely different question. Plus half of 4 is 2, 4+2 is 6, half of 6 is 3, two and three makes 23 OMG! LOL |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 100 Joined: 20 Apr 2008 | *apologies for obscure incoming analogies/metaphors* To my mind, life is a (sometimes shit-flavoured) balloon, and throughout our lives we keep huffing and puffing away trying to fill it as much as we can. However at the end of the day, when the balloon pops, we realise it's not the amount of air in the balloon, but the shapes we made with it that count. There, obscure metaphors over. |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
I agree with all of this completely, you sir have won the internets. And PR's cookie. You articulated what I was trying to say earlier perfectly. I think that for once, we have a question answered, thank you to shatnershaman, and mew for helping out. We have answered the question that people can see colours differently, and maybe that it could relate to how people feel about different colours. Such as when you look at somebody's garage colour, clothes or car paint job and go: How could they pick that colour? Good job guys! Anyways, here's another couple of questions: If the universe as we know it is expanding, (see red shift effect) what is it expanding out of? ANd why is it growing? Is the universe a child? could we be cells on said child's leg? What if the child is god? Or what if the child lives in his own universe, which is on another child? (like the MIB galaxy marbles/locker galaxy thing) What if we're a universe contained within another universe, or we have several other universes contained within ours? And another thing: If all human perception is based on our senses, how do we know if something does or doesn't exist? How do we perceive reality without these senses? Our whole perception of what reality is is rooted in our senses, but what if our senses are flawed, or we are missing a few? What could be out there that we don't know about? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1582 Joined: 4 Nov 2007 |
That's nothing: I once took it upon myself to prove that 42 was indeed derivable from every number that my fellow maths classmates could give me, and was therefore the meaning of life. Some of those proofs were very complex and very, very silly. |
Beat Writer Posts: 137 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
That's vaguely reminiscent of this one time in Math Class I used various formulas to prove why: Luberjacks>Pirates>Ninjas=Asexual=Homosexual<Pirates=Heterosexual manlymen< Lumberjacks=Alpha heterosexual manlymen. I drew up a chart a |
Triple post actually... but you're forgiven.
I think that life just is, you are dealt what you're dealt, and you've got to make the most of it. Somebody could say that that makes God malevolent, he deals some people fantastic lives and possibilities, and others a total shit storm. But I don't think that's the case. I like the watchmaker analogy, where God just took the watch, made it and fine tuned it, started it up, and walked away.
So maybe God is guiding us behind the scenes, maybe he isn't. But the fact stands that MOST people born in Africa, have it tougher than people who live in the US. Does that mean their lives are worse? Hardly.
The sum of your experiences dictates how you feel about certain things. Here in North America, we have almost unlimited fresh water that we can drink without end. But we don't really value that water, because it's just normal for us. But if you take a young, orphaned African boy who is dying of thirst, that one taste of water before he dies could be an experience far greater than any somebody from North America could understand.
I know it's easy for somebody with an easy life like me to just say: "Play with the hand you're dealt," but if you don't just accept your life and live through the hardships, you'll never get the chance to experience that one moment of success. It can come in many forms this success, but when it hits you, make sure you drink it up. It's as good as it may ever get.