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Poll: Doomsday 2012: Are you a believer?


What will happen December 22, 2012?
The world will end one way or the other in 2012
7.3% (13)
7.3% (13)
The world will be reborn
3.4% (6)
3.4% (6)
It will just be another Y2K
55.3% (99)
55.3% (99)
We will be accepted into an intergalactic federation
7.8% (14)
7.8% (14)
People will be the worlds end
12.8% (23)
12.8% (23)
I Am Legend FTW!
13.4% (24)
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mew905
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Some doomsayers are saying the world is going to end December 22, 2012. I, for one dont believe that, I dont believe there will be a revelation of any sort. I DO believe there is a comet headed our way, but I dont believe it will strike us or come anywhere near us for that matter. I believe this will be like the year 2000, just another turn of another calendar.

Now, there are several theories on what will happen in 2012, and I will try to touch on and contradict the ones I rememer.

The core will reverse, the earth will spin backward, and/or the magnetic polarities will change, sparking massive worldwide storms wiping out the population of the planet:
No! why in god's name would the core or earth start revolving in the opposite direction, thats like saying a spinning quarter will spontaneously start turning the other direction without outside interference!
As for the magnetic polarities changing and rather than repelling harmful solar rays and other such things: Last time I checked, a magnet is a magnet. South will attract north, and vice versa, it doesnt matter if the earth switches polarities (some say due to the core reversing), it will always have a magnetic field that helps protect us. Unless of course these harmful things in space have some kind of magnetic polarity. But, I highly doubt that considering the southern half of the earth isnt any more unprotected than the north.

The comet, as nostradamus calls "Nibiru" (IIRC) may or may not be the Planet X NASA discovered back in 2001 I think it was. If it is, GREAT! we will see a comet that hasnt been seen since around 3000BC! Will it hit us? probably not, if it does, oh well, it'll be quick. But according to some historical documents, this comet is apparently so large it will be like having a second sun. I want to have a child before this day comes just so he or she can possibly see, and remember this comet.

Rapid Evolution:
What? Since when was evolution instant? Healing can happen in as little as a few minutes, but evolution takes many, many years in some cases, and in most, millions of years.

Aliens/God will transcend upon us, and take us to a higher sense of self-being.
Sounds like a cult to me, this sometimes also involves the comet. Basically we are nearing the center of our galaxy and the "galactic counsil" will take us in to be judged as a species and possibly let in to the federation. Now, I cant really contradict this because there is no SOLID proof that there actually is life out there. I like to think there is because what are the chances that we were the only ones out of trillions of stars and their solar systems, to form into living, conscious beings? However some say the comet is (paraphrasing the following) "bus that will take us to a higher being". So, essentially we have to "catch the comet" and ride it to the galactic center? umm... Does anyone remember the cult that all committed suicide wearing sweat shirts and pants to "catch up to the mother ship"? Cant remember what they were called. This theory actually kind of goes hand in hand with the mormon religion, hence why I find the mormon religion to be *more* believable than christianity. I just dont like to think someone was spontaneously here, and decided "hey, I wanna create a huge void, put planets on it and life on certain planets". But then again, I'm Atheist, so I'm more of a science guy myself.

Thats all the theories I can remember, let me know if you agree or disagree with anything I posted here. And yes, I am aware the last one there is more personal belief than science, therefore we will all be biased to our opinion.

I also believe that if this crap keeps going on about the doomsday stuff, and the general population ends up believing the world will end, we will go into anarchy and destroy ourselves, whereas if we just wait it out (like Y2K) nothing will happen, and we can get on with our lives as normal. See the human reaction to an EMP attack on North America (not sure, it will likely be in wikipedia) to get the jist of what I'm trying to say.

Isaac Dodgson
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i hate to reply to such a long post with such a short one but...

Let the end come it's not like we all aren't fucked one way or another

mew905
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lol, basically what I said here:

"The comet, as nostradamus calls "Nibiru" (IIRC) may or may not be the Planet X NASA discovered back in 2001 I think it was. If it is, GREAT! we will see a comet that hasnt been seen since around 3000BC! Will it hit us? probably not, if it does, oh well, it'll be quick."

Either way, though, we all die. Some earlier than others but usually before we're 85.

RAWKSTAR
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I think the Idea of Dec.22 being the end is dull - How can people predict the presise day? and how come all of these things are on the same day aswell?
I'm pretty sure that meator will head towards Earth at some point intime, might or might not be dec.22 but In all I think we'll be fine.

Lord Krunk
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Where did you get December 22?

As far as I know, it started with the Maya Calendar saying that it was only going to happen in 2012.

Also: the same conspiracy happened for 1987 (198-something, at least).

Fire Daemon
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Why Dec 12, 2012. Why that specific date?

mew905
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Mayan calendar ends on that day, and all sorts of doomsday theories spawned from it. It's just the end of a series of calendars that make up the "long run".

Dody16
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All through history there have always been doomsayers, and every single time in history they have been wrong. I don't know why I should believe what they say now.

mew905
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I didnt know about any other major doomsday blasphemies other than the Y2K one. I figured this one would be worth posting as it's all over the discovery channel. The Crystal Skulls was one of em (supposedly could save the earth via some kind of magic or rediculously advanced technology), Doomsday 2012 was another, the documentary of Nostradamus just before the former. When TV starts putting together documentaries trying to prove some kind of flawed science behind something, ESPECIALLY doomsdays, there's a serious problem.

Yassen
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Basically what i researched is that on december 12th 2012, the earth and sun alligns with the galactic horizontal "disk" of our galaxy. thats it. The mayans figured this out with their incredibly accurate calender which is startling for a society that is so primitive. Especially since theres some astrological activity going to happen on the very date they specified.

Maybe something will happen, i dont know. But apparently the last time this happened over 5000 years ago, the first major human civilisations sprang up.

But really, you cant dwell too long on these sort of things, the only thing you can do, in the words of Fartybartfast, "hang yourself loose and keep yourself busy. Id much rather be happy than right any day."

Doug
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Meh, we'll probably get wiped out in the (short) Israel-Iran nuclear war (my bet is on 2010) that'll trigger the long waiting Pakistan-Indian tensions. And then from their, the hair trigger countries of the world (US,Russia, China, UK, any nation with nukes and radar or radio) will let loose with all their nukes.

So, we're probably fucked. (oh, and I selected Galactic Federation, heh, cus why not?)

mew905
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Ah, December 12, couldnt remember if it was the 22nd or the 12th. Good call. That would be really cool though if we met extraterrestrials at the center. We could learn so much (thats actually kind of a theory on what happened to atlantis, and explains some of the insane quality craftswork done on things dating back thousands of years, perhaps they were greeted at the center :)) Another thing is apparently the crystal skulls (yes, they are real, and so is the "energy grid" that people think was placed by aliens) were coated with a thin layer of silicon (or made entirely of, I cant remember which) and some theorize that they could actually be some kind of advanced harddrive, and when we learn to read it (back to the doomsday theory... ugh) it could stop our destruction.

I am definitely fond of the galactic federation idea, but I'm not holding my breath.

JakubK666
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I "enjoy it" since it's a very interesting conspiracy but imo, shit will happen.

mGoLos
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If all predictions bears true, USrael will attack Iran before Bush leaves office. This will kickstart the long emergency (A.K.A Peak Oil) where we desperately scramble to pump what little oil is still recoverable and attempt to implement some combination of alternative energies stupidly ignoring the fact that you cannot run a nuclear powerplant or build solarpanels without lots and lots of oil.

We will most likely be in the post-industrial stoneage in less than fifty years and I will be happy if we somehow avoid nuking ourselves there.

What was that about mayans again?

Gooble
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Logically it'll be another big fuss over nothing. However, the way the world's going at the moment with terrorism, Iran, the US, Israel, recession etc. it's not beyond the realms of possibility. I doubt it will wipe out all life however.

Doug
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Gooble:
I doubt it will wipe out all life however.

Indeed - the ants will conquer the Earth! Flee before our new sugar-seeking masters!

huntedannoyed
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Yea, Y2k is not even in the same league with this one. The Myans are not the only culture who have predicted that this date has world changing signifigance(by the way, the Myan calander is the most accurate calander that man has ever created, to this day its only a few seconds off). I believe that while the end of the world is unlikley, there is ample evidence to suggest that something big is going to happen. I have heard, and now I am going to look more into it, that a 13th constelation appears every few thousand years and that 2012 is when it will reappear. It is some constelation that is made up of two others... I'll get back to this fourm on this one...

Ok, the constellation is called Ophiuchus, and I'll try to get some more good stuff about it for later.

And by the way, Magnetic north is constantly moving.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/03/20/north.pole/

PurpleRain
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And here I was think we were doomed eight years ago. I need to keep up with all these new trends and doomsday dates.

Nicksus
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I think nothing interesting will happen. Life will go on as it has.

Mathew952
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I think We will wake up on Dec 23, 2012. We will look up, down, left right, and backward. We will see no signs of any sort of danger.Then we get to go in to CNN, where all the crazy preachers will be backpeddling as fast as they can.

We've been trying to predict the end of the world for thousands of years, and it's always been wrong. All of the crazy nut job ideas have been wrong. The Ice Age theory back in the 70's, the one we were all so sure would happen? Global warming is going to be a load of crap aswell. We just like to panic. That's how bored the US is as a nation.....

slowpoke219
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I always figured if all these people (religious nut jobs and laymen) honestly believed the end of the world was imminent and about to happen in the next few years, if they honestly believed it, what are they doing still going to work, and paying taxes and worrying about their 401k's? If I knew for a fact that the world was gonna end, and on a specific date a few years from now, Eff all that work and stuff! I'd cash in my retirement, head for Vegas, and see how much a 10 way would cost me. My point is, I don't think these people actually believe the crap that comes out of their own mouths.

mensaap
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In belgium, there's this guy (scientist I think) that has created a group to flee to africa.
He has bought land there, and has begon building bunkers to save the human culture for future species, if his little community shouldn't make it.

In 2012 he's planning to live there with 5000 people because he believes that on december 22 2012 the sun will send waves of some sort that will cause the earth's core to turn.

The problem with this is, that if this should happen all the world's nuclear facilities will explode. And that's why he chose afrika: It doesn't have nuclear facilities + it's far away from the nuclear winter/clouds/whatever.

He claims that all of this is based on scientific facts, also as stated above, the mayas predicted it AND he claims it has happened before with for example the civilisation that build the sfinx (the cat thingy at the great pyramids) and other buildings (like the temple on the south pole).

Just a little info I remember from a documentary ^^
I myself don't believe in stuff like this, although universal factors could harm the earth, I'm pretty sure it will happen unexpectatly (sorry for the bad spelling).

cleverlymadeup
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great not this total bs idea again

look the dec 22 2012 thing has been debunked and debunked very well. it's total and utter crap to think that they mayans, who didn't make a new calendar cause they got wiped out, predicted the end of the world

and anyone with any knowledge of the world knows that time will end on January 19, 2038 03:14:07 GMT

slowpoke219
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cleverlymadeup:
great not this total bs idea again

look the dec 22 2012 thing has been debunked and debunked very well. it's total and utter crap to think that they mayans, who didn't make a new calendar cause they got wiped out, predicted the end of the world

and anyone with any knowledge of the world knows that time will end on January 19, 2038 03:14:07 GMT

Phew, what a relief.

Saskwach
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I scanned, so I don't know if anyone's said this, but but: a lot of old cultures' beliefs, myths and prophecies are based on cosmological events. Important dates like this are usually the result of good astronomers seeing the patterns in the stars and the regularity of their movements and then attaching mythological significance to them. It just so happens that a feature of the Mayan calendar was "omg death of world, rebirth of world" or something similar. I suspect, then, that 2012 has nothing to do with anything happening on earth but with a great (and rare) event happening in the sky, or the end of an era.

Edit: I see huntedannoyed beat me to it. Good job there.

The_Toe_Bighter98
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The only reason the world would end on this date is that Uwe Boll has finally gotten a good review for one of his movies. This clearly goes against the word of God, and everything will be destroyed because of this. So give Uwe Boll a hand, THANKS Uwe Boll!

Duck Sandwich
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PurpleRain:
And here I was think we were doomed eight years ago. I need to keep up with all these new trends and doomsday dates.

You also missed June 6, 2006.

man-man
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People please, the Mayans weren't amazing astronomers (everyone had an eye on the stars back then, and there were other civilisations who were more advanced in the field) and they just had a calendar that went round in cycles, every so often it reaches the end of a cycle and goes around again.

The 2012 date is one such time, when it reaches the end of the largest cycle they defined. This has happened numerous times already throughout history without the world ending, extraterrestrial contact or anything freaky happening. This whole thing is roughly equivalent to archaeologists a century or three from now digging up my desk organiser and going "oh god, this calendar ends on December 31st, which by our calendar is next week, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!"

Now please, stop the lunacy and look at it with a little skepticism, nothing world-ending has happened for 4.5 billion years thus far, in all likelihood nothing will continue to happen straight through 2012.

If you're interested: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4093

star_topology
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Two things:

1. Worry yourself to death by trying to understand things your puny brain can't possibly comprehend.

OR

2. Live life and be a good person, and what will be, will be.

mew905
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That is the georgian calendar I believe. While it would somewhat be equivalent to that, APPARENTLY (I havent looked into this too much, you know, not too concerned with this blasphemy) there is absolutely no recorded history before ~3000BC, or at the start of the current 'long run'. Now if you go by that (which alot of people do) then yeah, logically this makes sense. However what happened to the caveman? I understand we've come a very long way in just 2000 years, however I dont really think we've gone from having completely nothing and ending up building the pyramids (a HUGE feat, even today!) just under 2000 years later (I think, again not to up on the dates the pyramids were built). And then there are those historical items that were hand crafted thousands of years ago with what appears to be very advanced tools. Whether those items are fake or not, I dont know, nor do I really care.

edcalaban
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We appear to have forgotten the Shadowrun approach: world ends because magic comes back and completely destabilizes the balance of power, leading to massive nation-state-corporations. Oops.

Ricky1992
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What if we're already dead and don't know it? Either that or it's a load of bollocks just another excuse for the media to sell cock and bull stories.

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Exterminatus
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I do imagine us humans will be the end of the world eventually, given our nature and all, I just don't think it will happen in 2012... Or any time soon, for that matter.

Rampancy
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It bothers me when people base their theories on the end of the world on man-made calendars. Seriously... The Mayans made their calendar, just like you or I would have. They didn't really know anything we don't. Our calendar is equally flawed...

My opinion on the end of the world? Eventually. No sense trying to plan for it, nobody's gonna see it coming.

portuga-man
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Lol.

Explain me this: why did all the doom sayers "conveniently" forgot about 2012 when we were approaching the year 2000?

second, it was all a misunderstanding. in the year 2012 the display of star constellations in our sky will change and we'll enter the astrological age of Aquarius. It happened many times before, and the mayans did their calendar based on the astrological age in which they lived. Since their astrological age ended in 2012, then so did their calendar. Just because doom sayers and any self-respecting troll can change the world "age" for "world" in the sentence "end of the age", that doesn't mean it will actually happen.

P.S: i'm not sure if it's the display of the constellations that will change, but it's something like that

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