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Copy Clerk  Posts: 114 Joined: 30 Jun 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2655 Joined: 18 Dec 2007    | I'd honestly rather it if the writters created their own ideas for their movies. They could atleast try and be original. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 13 Jul 2008 | This is ludicrous. It's like asking "movies based on books: good or bad?" or "movies based on games: good or bad?" The answer to all three questions is the same as you'll get if you ask "Movies: good or bad?": most aren't that impressive, but there's a lot of great stuff out there. To ask "movies based on comix" is to attempt to equate everything from Persepolis to The Crow to Howard the Duck. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3512 Joined: 25 Jan 2008    | Hellboy, Blade, Blade 2, Blade 3, Sin City, X-Men, X-Men 2, X-Men 3, Spiderman, Spiderman 2, Iron Man, The Punisher (1989 Dolf Lundgren original), Batman, Batman Returns, and Batman Begins are all great examples of why comics made into movies is a good thing. Batman and Robin, Batman Forever, Spiderman 3, Hulk, and the Punisher (2004 Thomas Jane remake) are examples of when it goes wrong, but I'll suffer through these for having the first list. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1844 Joined: 13 Dec 2007  | A lot of comics have good storylines, but also great art. With films like 300 it really translates to the screen, and works well. It sucks that they mess around with plot so often, but it's like that with everything. EDIT: Although in the case of Ghost World, the movie changed the plot a phenomenal amount and it worked great. Definitely better than the graphic novel story-wise, although it didn't have quite the same sincerity. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1249 Joined: 29 Dec 2007   | Marvel- TV Show= bad DC- TV Show= bad |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 894 Joined: 14 May 2008     |
fixed =D |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2491 Joined: 3 Mar 2008  | Depends on the book/comic. While I enjoy the concept of X-Men, you really need to elaborate on that further. I hated the Fantastic Four (Maybe because it reminds me of the Famous Five or Secret Seven by controversial author Enid Blyton?), Ghost Rider and Superman in all areas of media, so movies of them was not a good idea. For books, I understand that you can't add the whole thing, but at least be a bit creative! (I'm nodding towards LOTR and To Kill a Mockingbird, here) If you're going to make a movie of a comic, do it well. That's all I ask. I still don't believe that Peter Jackson is involved with the Halo Movie. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 704 Joined: 19 Dec 2007 | Nextwave. If that ever got made into a movie, it'd be the greatest superhero movie of all time. |
Paperboy  Posts: 19 Joined: 11 Jul 2008 | Some movies based on comics are bad for a few reasons. I'm actually afraid of seeing the Deadpool movie when it's made for fear the actor fails to speak in the voice I imagined Deadpool speaking in, that would really take away from my respect of the character if he sounded like a bass singer from one of the Southern states of America. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 469 Joined: 14 May 2008 | The superhero comics-to-movies are a little different than say, I Am Legend. I enjoy the superhero movies because they don't have to be exactly accurate to the comics. They're just a new story with the same characters for the most part. That and I totally had the hots for Chris O'Donnell as Robin. But I hated I Am Legend. First off, Will Smith pisses me off to begin with because I've yet to see him act. Second off, the vampires just became unintelligent violent creatures. And then, they changed the entire ending of the movie to this dramatic Will-Smith-gets-killed thing when that's not how the book or graphic novel ended at all. They included the real ending on the special edition DVD for people like me who were upset that they changed the ending, but I still can't forgive them. It's like taking a great classic story and just changing the ending, like having everyone live in a Shakespeare tragedy. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 408 Joined: 21 Nov 2007 |
A lot of adaptations are original. In fact they're so original, only thing I've seen them reuse was the name of series. ;P |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1987 Joined: 7 Mar 2008   |
no they didn't even include the real ending for i am legend, the only version to come close to it was "the last man on earth" with vincent price. at the end of the book he dies, the Will Smith version was changed a lot from the book but him dying at the end was not at least according to the Richard Matheson book as for comic book movies, some are good and some are bad. the big issue is a lot of the DC property, cept for batman and superman, is totally ruined by warner brothers who owns DC. the issues marvel has had was different studios owned different properties and they had to pick and choose which characters they could use in each movie. i will say Marvel is getting better at the movie making thing tho and this new Marvel Studio idea is great |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1828 Joined: 14 Nov 2007 | It depends entirely on the film studio responsible. Part of the reason why the last two Batman films have been so successful as comic films is that they take inspiration from the best of the Batman comics (Year One, TDKR, the Killing Joke, etc), but they also do enough new things to keep it fresh and interesting. In Begins, it was the constant playing on the concept of fear, done with an artfulness not often seen in blockbusters. In The Dark Knight, it looks to be Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker (which thus far looks stonkingly good), and the idea of escalation within Gotham. And of course, if we'd never had the Batman films, we'd never have had Danny Elfman's score, or the Animated Series, both of which have come to be seen as an integral part of the Batman universe. Where they go wrong is with examples like The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a film which is only similar to the comic in name, and follows every convention and cliche in Hollywood with a predictability you could set your watch by. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3653 Joined: 29 Nov 2007   |
The first Batman movie was amazing, mostly because it was based off of Frank miller's "The Return of the BatMan." Me, I'm loving these comic to movie movies. Can't wait until they make a Gen13 one. (I rebuke that animated one they made. Flea is NOT a good Grunge.) |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 7 Joined: 13 Jul 2008 | If the movie can be as good as Ironman, 2 batman movies, and Batman begins then fine. The first Spiderman movie, I thought, was good (Despite Tobey Maguire(sp?) as Spiderman; I don't think he was the best choice for it), but the 2nd and 3rd one were unnecessary. Don't get me started on Ghostrider or Superman Returns. I think the film for both movies should've been lost in an unfortunate accident on it's way down the assembly line. But that's just my opinion. Although I will say the comic to movies that have been coming out recently have been better then they were a few years ago. The Dark knight looks pretty good so far and I am curious about the Deadpool movie...but either way if they mess it up I'll be content with the good old comics books. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2903 Joined: 21 Jan 2008  | Like everything, they can be done right, and they can fail miserably. You just gotta find the ones that are good, and stay away from the ones that aren't. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1828 Joined: 14 Nov 2007 |
Ugh, I don't even like the first one. Hammy dialogue, cliche upon cliche, forced humour... the only decent bit was when Spiderman got the crap kicked out of him at the end. Why it gets the praise it does, I've no idea. |
Muckraker  Posts: 240 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 | This is too vague a question to answer truthfully, but I am pretty sure that there aren't many people who hate every comic book movie or like every comic book movie. Some comix movies were bad, some were good, like every other genre of any media form ever invented. That said, I think Iron Man, Hellboy, Batman Begins (including the Dark Knight) and 300 were good comix movies, but in my opinion, there is more bad or mediocre than good, unfortunately. |
Muckraker Posts: 240 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 |
You're right about Ex. Gentlemen, but I liked it anyway because it was basically crossover fiction with the best of the 1800's characters |
Copy Clerk Posts: 114 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 |
Well then let me refraise the question. We all know that there are good movies based on comics and bad movies based on comics. So far it seems that there are allot more crappy movies then good. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 61 Joined: 19 Sep 2007 |
How about letting me rephrase. Honestly this seems like one big excuse to have an argument with comic book nerds (and I use the term with affection) over which movie adaptions have been good or bad. Any form of entertainment is hit (and|or) miss. This is why people like Adam Sandler and Jim Carey have careers rather than permanent pillories in major intersections ;P * Note spelling. Don't be lazy. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3653 Joined: 29 Nov 2007 | I'm going to be brutally honest for a moment. The word "comix" is more annoying, even typed, then someone saying "lawl" out loud. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2491 Joined: 3 Mar 2008 |
Oh, god. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 739 Joined: 21 May 2008 | I hate comic movies. The only exception was V for Vendetta. I hate them, because it's so easy to predict, it's usually big huge fights that takes a hell of alot of time, the story tends to suck, it starts career of some crappy actors, etc. FOR ONCE, I wish hollywood would stop this, it's another super hero movie after another. Put a break into this. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1987 Joined: 7 Mar 2008 |
yeah just got back from hellboy 2 it was really awesome, just waiting to have ppl say "omg it sucked they changed so much" i will say this in advance Mike Mignola helped write the two movies, he had a lot of input into both of them, he's the writer and creator he can do what ever he wants with his character i just hope Marvel keeps up the good work, i also hope Warner Brothers gets their act together and does something with the DC universe. i'm at least glad they didn't make the Green Lantern movie they were thinking of making, Jack Black is NOT good for the green lantern |
Muckraker  Posts: 296 Joined: 17 Oct 2007 |
My rebuddle-- Marval: Spiderman's 1, 2, and 3 DC: Batman Begins, (and most assuredly) The Dark Knight |
Copy Clerk Posts: 114 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 |
Thanks for restating the question (correctly oh and I am not being sarcastic) but I didnt start this forum to start arguments (I am a pretty passive person) I just wanted to know if other people thought that these new waves of movies based on comics were good or bad. |
Paperboy  Posts: 14 Joined: 10 Jul 2008 | I have to say no to this, because Watchmen, the legendary book by Alan Moore, literally made me cry manly tears in places. And I've heard the writer for the movie adaptation has changed the ending quite a bit, as I've heard the writer did for Alan Moore's other masterpiece V For Vendetta. Though I would like to see Hellboy and Batman. |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 10 Joined: 14 Jul 2008 | most of the marvel ones have been up to scratch, so yes, it is a good idea, if a bit unintuative |
Anonymous Source Posts: 6 Joined: 14 Jul 2008 | Where's the option for "gross generalization"? |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 388 Joined: 27 Mar 2008 | I tend to love movies based on "graphic novels" ( V for Vendetta, Sin City) but based on comics i find them quite unimaginative and shallow stories. I have never been a reader of graphic narratives. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 961 Joined: 25 Feb 2008 | Comix, now there's a phrase I haven't heard since about 1998... Anyway, it depends greatly on the screenplay. It doesn't have to necessarily be faithful to the comic's plot. It does have to capture a similar atmosphere though. As for what would make a good movie, Leviathan, The Ten Seconders, Dead Signal or Savage would make pretty good movies. Although I'm holding my breath for Watchmen, if they give that a Hollywood ending I am going to commit murder... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4580 Joined: 13 Feb 2008     | Well, there is a possible Hollywood ending there... Night Owl and Sally walk off into the Sunset, Ozymandias learns of the error of his ways, The two 'bad men' die and the serial monogamist leaves alone... You do have to squint a bit though... |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 961 Joined: 25 Feb 2008 |
Squint and ignore a few million 'minor details'... #rephrased. |
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So far allot of comics stories have made their way to the big screens (batman and spiderman are some examples that are very popular) and it seems that some people enjoy these movies and some dont.
In most cases the person that reads the comic is very happy with the movie because it stays true to the comic (spiderman's (part 1) storyline for example was changed only a little) and in other cases the comic fan will hate the movie because the plot is completely different (Wanted for example was completely different from the movie).
Most average moviegoers will not care about the changes but the plot and graphics of the movie. But still I just want to know your ideas on the matter.