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ANTI-SANTA
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It seems a lot of you have some valid points about... well just about everything that comes up on this site. And I'd like you all to give me your opinion on a little something I'm working on.

Those of you who have been keeping tabs on me (and if you have you really need to get laid or step outside for a bit) will know I'm a novel writer working on a little something called "The Nekros Chronicles" which at this moment is a third complete and is my pride and joy. And I thought I'd give you a run down on the general story, and please do tell me what you think. Be Brutal... But not to brutal.

The story is based about a thousand or so years in the future when mankind has been nearly wiped out because several centuries ago Judgment Day just happened to turn up. The entire planet was in chaos when this happened, Vampire, zombies, werewolves, every kind of demon you can think of arose from hell and started harvesting and feeding on the human race. But man is a stubborn species, and there was a pitch out war for several decades. The world was chaotic with battle, man against demon. Think the battle scenes from Legendary but with fewer griffins. BUT, all the bombing and shooting and bitch slapping was ultimately pointless in the end because we lost the war.

The story picks up 747 years after the war, when the world has dried and turned into one big desert and the last surviving humans now live in small settlements and villages spread through out the world. As you can assume, attacks are common in this world, with people being kidnapped for food and just all round slaughter fests. As a result, some humans have taken up arms and vowed to protect the last of the humans by slaying the evil. These people are called Hunter, the title explains it all... they hunt evil.

The story follows the journey of two Hunters, Jericho and Alicia. Jericho is a zombie who has survived since the Wild West era and has some how retained his memories, personality and motor skills. Jericho is a good old fashioned gun slinger who spent the better half of a thousand years reading and learning about the demons that now infest the world, making him the smartest creature alive... or dead. Jericho has a shady past and was heavily involved in the war... but for which side? You'll have to read it if you want to find out. When Alicia found Jericho he was living in a cave at the bottom of a gorge, spending years at a time doing nothing but reading. Jericho's cave had been equipped to tend to all his needs, tools, weapons, books, and embalming fluid to keep him from drying out. And if that last bit sounded familiar to you then you've seen Xombie, but I swear I did not rip it off. Jericho acquired a Sand Tank; a large armored vehicle suited to desert terrine, many years ago and used it to transport both him and Alicia around. But enough about Jericho lets talk about Alicia.

Alicia is a vampire who doesn't hunger for human blood. By appearance Alicia is very Goth like. She has dark black hair, pale skin and a small tattoo under her left eye. Alicia works as a Hunter because she needs the money to buy blood packs, because as I mentioned earlier, she doesn't eat humans. Alicia knows nothing of her past, but she is the last live descendant of a long line of powerful witches(which she discovers around midway through the book). Alicia strives to uncover the truth about her past and to learn more about her powers, which will lead both Jericho and herself down some dark paths.

That's all I'm telling you with out giving too much away. So, what do you think?

apmpnmdslkbk
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I think you need to change the title cause there is already a book (actually to books) about a guy named Dr. Nekros (yes spelled exactly that way) and you could get hit with copyright infringment.

Dommyboy
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Good story, nutty but good. Some aspects could be redone to add a bit more depth. Also the title as apmpnmdslkbk said. Also be cautious with the language you use, context and swearing wise.

ANTI-SANTA
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apmpnmdslkbk:
I think you need to change the title cause there is already a book (actually to books) about a guy named Dr. Nekros (yes spelled exactly that way) and you could get hit with copyright infringment.

What? Aw, man, You can't come up with any desent title these days that hasn't been taken.

And for those of you who want a little more depth, I may consider showing the first chapter in the near future. But until then, this is all you get.

CartoonHead
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Yeah seems a pretty good skeleton. Didn't particularly like the Wild-west-ness of Jericho as, coupled with the technological leaps of your imagined future, it conjured up images of him looking exactly like Will Smith and saying: "wikiwa...wikiwawa...wikiwikiwildwild" etc. But hey, that's just me. It's your story and I think you should stick to it.

You should post Chapter one (or at least part of it) at some point, so we can see what your story writing style is like.

EDIT: Hope you do not mind me suggesting, but perhaps something like 'Twilight' would be good for the title, as the story appears to be set in the twilight of man's existence.

ANTI-SANTA
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CartoonHead:
Didn't particularly like the Wild-west-ness of Jericho as, coupled with the technological leaps of your imagined future, it conjured up images of him looking exactly like Will Smith.

Well, you see, the idea is that some much was destroyed during the war that all the high tech weapons and what not are gone and usless, and only a few Hunters have high tech weapons. I made it so Jericho still uses his winchester and revolvers, because I like the sound of that, and Alicia uses an old (but very well taken care of) MP7 machine pistol. As for the other humans they have to use pitch forks and crappy hunting rifles made out of old scrap. So to asnwer you statment, only a few people have to good stuff.

CartoonHead
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Ahh. That sounds a bit better. It was the 'sand tank' that did it.
Presumably there is a reason as to why Jericho is a zombie, noticing the witches theme with alicia and having a stab in the dark: they are somehow 'destined by fate' to team up? (Rhetorical - you don't have to give that away).
Jericho sounds like an interesting character, I hope you have a decent back story for when he was 'alive'.
Can I just ask: Are you writing as an unknown narrator, or from the viewpoint of one - or both - of the main characters?

ANTI-SANTA
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CartoonHead:
Can I just ask: Are you writing as an unknown narrator, or from the viewpoint of one - or both - of the main characters?

Ah, well thats the fun bit. Each book is going to be written in 3 parts, like I AM LEGEND and Red Dwarf etc. The first part is written purely in a third person point of view, the second part is in Jericho's point of view and the third is Alicia's. Get it?
And yes there is a reason why Jericho is a zombie that can talk and why he joined Alicia. Lets just say its the very least he could do after what he did all those centuries ago. AND THATS ALL YOUR GETTING.

CartoonHead
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Ah good, I like a book that changes the narrative POV after a time - refreshes it somewhat. Plus the idea of personal chapters for characters is good.
However, I think you should consider making your initial third person narrator a bit blinkered, so it seems to not know exactly all what is going on and is trying to put pieces of this strange world/story together, remaining only just one step ahead of the reader (from the reader's POV).
Then, after the character POVs you could add a final section, as a third-person, that is omniscient - this narrative knows absolutely everything about your characters and can explain what they have been feeling or brewing up inside of them throughout the book in a sort of culmination, so the reader can go 'ahhh' and wonder why he/she didn't link all the gaps up before.
I must stress that I'm only saying that you MAY want to consider these things and I hope I wasn't being presumptous by doing so - it's your book after all.

Shivari
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Sounds promising, I'm a little weary on a talking zombie but I'm sure you have a reason for it and you're not just making him a zombie for kicks.

Just a question, how are things going on getting it published and everything? I know someone who is writing a novel and he made it seem like it's a long process and that it's hard to actually finally get it published. I was just wondering how you were going about that or if you haven't started that yet.

mjhhiv
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ANTI-SANTA:
It seems a lot of you have some valid points about... well just about everything that comes up on this site. And I'd like you all to give me your opinion on a little something I'm working on.

Those of you who have been keeping tabs on me (and if you have you really need to get laid or step outside for a bit) will know I'm a novel writer working on a little something called "The Nekros Chronicles"(will have to be changed apparently) which at this moment is a third complete and is my pride and joy. And I thought I'd give you a run down on the general story, and please do tell me what you think. Be Brutal... But not to brutal.

The story is based about a thousand or so years in the future when mankind has been nearly wiped out because several centuries ago Judgment Day just happened to turn up. The entire planet was in chaos when this happened, Vampire, zombies, werewolves, every kind of demon you can think of arose from hell and started harvesting and feeding on the human race. But man is a stubborn species, and there was a pitch out war for several decades. The world was chaotic with battle, man against demon. Think the battle scenes from Legendary but with fewer griffins. BUT, all the bombing and shooting and bitch slapping was ultimately pointless in the end because we lost the war.

The story picks up 747 years after the war, when the world has dried and turned into one big desert and the last surviving humans now live in small settlements and villages spread through out the world. As you can assume, attacks are common in this world, with people being kidnapped for food and just all round slaughter fests. As a result, some humans have taken up arms and vowed to protect the last of the humans by slaying the evil. These people are called Hunter, the title explains it all... they hunt evil.

The story follows the journey of two Hunters, Jericho and Alicia. Jericho is a zombie who has survived since the Wild West era and has some how retained his memories, personality and motor skills. Jericho is a good old fashioned gun slinger who spent the better half of a thousand years reading and learning about the demons that now infest the world, making him the smartest creature alive... or dead. Jericho has a shady past and was heavily involved in the war... but for which side? You'll have to read it if you want to find out. When Alicia found Jericho he was living in a cave at the bottom of a gorge, spending years at a time doing nothing but reading. Jericho's cave had been equipped to tend to all his needs, tools, weapons, books, and embalming fluid to keep him from drying out. And if that last bit sounded familiar to you then you've seen Xombie, but I swear I did not rip it off. Jericho acquired a Sand Tank; a large armored vehicle suited to desert terrine, many years ago and used it to transport both him and Alicia around. But enough about Jericho lets talk about Alicia.

Alicia is a vampire who doesn't hunger for human blood. By appearance Alicia is very Goth like. She has dark black hair, pale skin and a small tattoo under her left eye. Alicia works as a Hunter because she needs the money to buy blood packs, because as I mentioned earlier, she doesn't eat humans. Alicia knows nothing of her past, but she is the last live descendant of a long line of powerful witches(which she discovers around midway through the book). Alicia strives to uncover the truth about her past and to learn more about her powers, which will lead both Jericho and herself down some dark paths.

That's all I'm telling you with out giving too much away. So, what do you think?

That's sounds like something I'd consider buying, actually. Of course, you should post some examples of your writing style if you want real criticism, but the premise sounds very good.

Zomni42
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I dunno about all that man. Despite being extremely different, it seems kinda the same. But i might read it any way. I read alot of sci-fi, and alot of bad sci-fi. This sounds like it has the potential to land more towards good sci-fi but it will depend on execution.

ANTI-SANTA
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Shivari:
Just a question, how are things going on getting it published and everything? I know someone who is writing a novel and he made it seem like it's a long process and that it's hard to actually finally get it published. I was just wondering how you were going about that or if you haven't started that yet.

To be truthful I havent really figured that bit out yet. Still waters run deep, I'll google it one day.

pieeater911
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I think it's got the bones of a good story so far. It sounds like something I'd read if I saw it in my local bookstore.

I have no ideas on a new title, though.

I'll tell you if I think of anything that sounds good.

danosaurus
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Hmmmm the plot sounds a little familiar, though drawn from various horror//sci-fi genres it sounds to be on a more epic scale.

I like thinking of titles though =]

'Aphotic Assemblage'

(Aphotic means to be kinda lightless//dark)

The alliteration might be a little cheesy for a title of serious Sci-fi nature, so you could change 'Assemblage' to something different, i just like that word haha.
maybe try 'Aphotic Conclave' or something along those lines.

P.S I'm giving you this suggestion under the impression that Jericho and Alicia form an alliance of sorts...otherwise the title will be redundant and i will be embarassed lol.

Anarchemitis
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I like the idea, but I'd like to know mor about the setting, like literally the landscape and surroundings. Like, are they in the middle of what appears to be the Mohave desert, or 'is that the top of the Chrysler Building half-buried in sand over there'?
Additionally, I personally don't like the name Jericho for the guy's name.

ANTI-SANTA
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Anarchemitis:
I like the idea, but I'd like to know mor about the setting, like literally the landscape and surroundings. Like, are they in the middle of what appears to be the Mohave desert, or 'is that the top of the Chrysler Building half-buried in sand over there'?
Additionally, I personally don't like the name Jericho for the guy's name.

Think vast featureless desert that goes on and on and on, Alos becuase of all the shit that got burnt during the war the sky has gone blood red. And what wrong with the name Jericho?

Anarchemitis
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ANTI-SANTA:

Think vast featureless desert that goes on and on and on, Alos becuase of all the shit that got burnt during the war the sky has gone blood red. And what wrong with the name Jericho?

Ah.
-and-
Meh, I just think it could be different. BUt then again, I'm me and not everyone.

Gahars
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Sounds very interested.

I'd love to read it.

Noggy
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apmpnmdslkbk:
I think you need to change the title cause there is already a book (actually to books) about a guy named Dr. Nekros (yes spelled exactly that way) and you could get hit with copyright infringment.

You can't copyright a book title. For instance there are around five different movies all titled "Marry Me".

Also I want to add that a good book is good because of its execution not it's concept. If it's well written then it's worth reading. I've seen plenty of awesome things that weren't very inventive, like Halo.

Shivari
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ANTI-SANTA:

Shivari:
Just a question, how are things going on getting it published and everything? I know someone who is writing a novel and he made it seem like it's a long process and that it's hard to actually finally get it published. I was just wondering how you were going about that or if you haven't started that yet.

To be truthful I havent really figured that bit out yet. Still waters run deep, I'll google it one day.

I hope you do get it published, as it seems like a pretty cool concept. But it's a very hard thing to get books published from what I understand. I wish you all the best though!

Oh, and I love the name Jericho. To each his own I guess.

Copter400
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Sounds cool, I guess. I like Jericho. It is always cool to have cowboys and undead. Not really my sort of thing, though.

Also, I don't go with the school of thought that vampires are beautiful, cursed Goths. I take the Elder Scrolls' standpoint of vampires being one meal away from raving schizophrenics.

Smiles
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The concept seems original enough... I can only hope your characters don't end up as cliched as they sound.

I would like to see an improvement in your spelling before I consider reading your book.

ANTI-SANTA
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I posted the first chapter of the story but the Mods locked it out! Bastards. And yeh I'm working on the spelling and grammer and what not.

nilcypher
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ANTI-SANTA:
I posted the first chapter of the story but the Mods locked it out! Bastards.

I'm sorry, what did you call me?

Copter400
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nilcypher:

ANTI-SANTA:
I posted the first chapter of the story but the Mods locked it out! Bastards.

I'm sorry, what did you call me?

Reverting to school-yard maturity levels. OOOoooh, bust-ed!

gibboss28
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Copter400:

Reverting to school-yard maturity levels. OOOoooh, bust-ed!

Joining in to reverting to school-yard maturity levels. Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! ...no? ok.

nilcypher
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Hmm, I forgot for a moment that text can't do tone of voice. I'm assuming that Anti-Santa's post was mean to be taken in a tongue in cheek fashion, as mine was supposed to be also.

Assume my post has this at the end of it ":P"

BallPtPenTheif
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seems like a story that would be best conveyed as a graphic novel. why are you expressing it in a written novel?

ANTI-SANTA
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nilcypher:

ANTI-SANTA:
I posted the first chapter of the story but the Mods locked it out! Bastards.

I'm sorry, what did you call me?

You heard me.

ANTI-SANTA
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BallPtPenTheif:
seems like a story that would be best conveyed as a graphic novel. why are you expressing it in a written novel?

............ Because it is a novel.

ANTI-SANTA
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There was a guy that posted a comment in the thread that had the first chapter in. He said all concepts are great its all just a matter of how they're executed. Now thats a universal truth that is! The same goes for a lot of things.

ANTI-SANTA
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Noggy:
You can't copyright a book title. For instance there are around five different movies all titled "Marry Me".

You mean i can keep the title? coz that would be a huge releif.

Noggy
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Anti-Santa said:You mean i can keep the title? coz that would be a huge releif.

Totally dude. Are you actually going to publish that first chapter on the internet somewhere? You could always put it up on livejournal or something.