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Anonymous Source Posts: 3 Joined: 21 Jul 2008 | |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 669 Joined: 28 Feb 2008 | *Points to BioRage1920's avatar when it was Sepheropth* EDIT: I can't help but think that I many have caused an avatar change. Huh. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 67 Joined: 8 Jul 2008 | I'm getting kind of tired of superhero movies based off of comic books. Irrelevant to all of your questions, but I thought I'd state that anyway. I just saw the Halloween remake by Rob Zombie. It was good. I liked it better than the original. I agree with Erana, too, even though I enjoyed The Dark Knight. How many damn Batman movies do we need? |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 585 Joined: 9 Feb 2008 | They should've never tainted the legacy of Scooby Doo. Remakes aren't all bad. Look, movies get dated. Just like fashion, music, games, etc. Giving them a facelift isn't a crime. The results, on the other hand, CAN be criminal. If you've ever seen Entourage, look at the episode where Billy Walsh wants to do a film adaption of 'Walk in the Clouds' (I think that's a fictional book) as a futuristic sci-fi called Silo. That's not remaking a film badly, that's making it badly for the first time. But really it's a remake of the book, set to screen. Anthony Burgess HATED Stanley Kubrick's vision of 'A Clockwork Orange' Arthur C. Clark HATED Stanley Kubrick's vision of '2001: A Space Oddesy' Stephen King HATED Stanley Kubrick's vision of 'The Shining' Everyone HATED Stanley Kubrick's 'Eyes Wide Shut' Everyone HATED Steven Spielberg's adaption of Stanley Kubrick's 'AI: Artificial Intelligence' Sort of... went off on ol Stanley there. But he's still revered as one of the best directors of all time. Regardless of what you thought of the source material he was using. But the fact remains, intellectual property in hollywood is up for sale. You buy it, then you decide who makes it, then the public decides if they want to see it. So YOU are the final word in the system. I for one thought the concept of remaking 'Psycho' shot-for-shot was pretty dumb, so I didn't shill out the green to see it. I did, however, find the remake of 'Dawn of the Dead' pretty sweet, except for the fact that I live in Milwaukee and the director didn't do very much homework on my locale. But I can look past that. Seriously, thought, what the FUCK island were they going to at the end? I've lived here my whole life and there's no freaking islands off the coast of Milwaukee. P.S. if anyone from Milwaukee does read this and tries to say 'Jones Island' gimme your address so I can come over and slap ya |
Copy Clerk Posts: 92 Joined: 22 Jul 2008 | You know, I was just thinking. I really like to see a remake of Soylent Green. I think it could be done really well. Though frankly just by not having Charleton Heston in the film it's bound to be much improved. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 6463 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 | I figure a remake of Death Wish would be pretty decent (if they just didn't get an action movie star for the lead. Someone with a medium build is fine, but theres no way they could take them with their fists). Everyone seems to love superhero movies, I wonder how they'd go to someone who fights for justice and all that shit, but doesn't come up with a fruity name. Sure, its pure NRA propaganda, but it was still pretty decent. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 585 Joined: 9 Feb 2008 | That's why Tarantino is such a good director. He loves old movies... a whole lot. But instead of remaking them, he just makes new movies that take influence from them, directly. I just wish he'd look at something like the old star wars flicks and say "Gee, they don't make em like that anymore, I guess I'll make one like that" because George Lucas clearly wasn't thinking that. Not to mention he works pretty well outside the parameters of normal hollywood and doesn't give 2 shits what people say about the movies he wanted to make. |
Muckraker Posts: 247 Joined: 2 Jun 2008 | OK. Batman was awesome, even though it has strayed far away from the originals. But I do agree with you about most remakes, I was particularly pissed about The Hulk... I mean it was cool and all but STOP IT ALREADY. At least they gave Lou Ferrigno a cameo appearance in it, I was at least happy about that. Same goes for Indiana Jones. It was a trilogy!!!! And a damn good one! |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 669 Joined: 28 Feb 2008 |
I actually am glad that they remade it after that 80's series. I needed to cleanse my mind of the his pecs jiggling like some people think breasts should. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 369 Joined: 4 Jul 2008 | people have been smart enough to only "touch up" the godfather movies.it's still all the original actors,same lines,same awesomeness. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1391 Joined: 11 Jun 2008 | i never understood why people get upset over "remakes". in music, when somebody makes a cover of another song people regard it as another take or expression of the previous material. it is kind of viewed as an homage. yet when people remake films people always act as if it is sacreligious or that it somehow sullies the reputation of the previous film. i'll blame the habit forming episodic nature of television for that one. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 92 Joined: 22 Jul 2008 | Well, I don't think ALL movie remakes are of the devil, but some films really are sacred, because they were perfect the way they were. Take The Godfather, which the protagonist mentioned earlier. Perfect the way it was, and any sort of remake probably wouldn't do the original justice. So how do you know when a film is sacred? First, it has to be GOOD. Second, it has to be regarded as something of an artistic and cultural milestone. In other words, it's a film that's so good that nearly EVERYBODY agrees that it's good. |
Paperboy Posts: 12 Joined: 15 Jul 2008 |
True but saying that some covers of songs are just awful for example how many times has light by fire been covered. They might as well piss on jim morrison's grave. I think it stems from looking back nostalgically at the origninals how they made an impact on you, then a remake gets made and it doesn't have the same impact as the original. |
Paperboy Posts: 46 Joined: 20 Feb 2008 | True. Remakes aren't always bad, but it'd be nice to see something original. Same thing with sequels. The Spider Man series should go ahead and die now, the first one was good, then it went slightly down hill with each one. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2581 Joined: 7 Feb 2008 | I can't wait for Casablanca: The Revenge, staring Shia Lebouf and Miley Cyrus... actually that one terrifies me, Casablanca never needs to be remade. Also I hope nobody EVER entertains the thought of remaking the following... On the topics of remakes that aren't necessary but would be fun... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2117 Joined: 7 Mar 2008 |
i get mad at cover songs just as much as i do at bad remakes of films the funny part is remakes have been around for years and years, it's just now being published as a remake, if they change the film/song too much it's usually not a good thing i thought Rob Zombie's hallowe'en was amazing, kept the same feel as the original but added to it. the dawn of the dead and texas chainsaw massacre remakes were pretty good too however the chances of the remake of the day the earth stood still with Keanu Reeves are about the same as me being a chinese jet pilot |
Beat Writer Posts: 153 Joined: 21 May 2008 | I hated the Planet of the Apes, Wily Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and Omega Man remakes. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2117 Joined: 7 Mar 2008 |
ummmm omega man is a remake of the last man on earth staring Vincent Price, which is the closet version of the book I am Legend that has been done |
Muckraker Posts: 309 Joined: 27 Apr 2008 | They could never possibly remake my favorite film, it was a classic seventies film staring Christopher Lee and Edward Woodward about a pagan society on an island. This could never ever be remade especially not staring some one as asinine as for example Nicholas Cage because they would probably turn it into feminist propaganda or something equally trite. Oh and correct me if Im wrong but arent they remaking Friday the Thirteenth with Jason in the central role?????? Surely that would be a remake of Friday the Thirteenth part 2... Oh and Deathrace 2000 is being remade for the love of god... Why would you take a brilliant movie such as this and then place Jason Statham in the central role???? If they ever remake Reanimator Im going to Russia buying a suitcase nuke and going holidaying in Hollywood. Remakes are in the most part god awful wastes of celluloid, with such horrors as running zombies and in the case of Assualt on Precinct Thirteen a woodland that appears from no where! I still watch them though so I have something to get annoyed about besides fuel costs and politicians! |
Paperboy Posts: 36 Joined: 10 Jul 2008 | Remakes usually suck, because you tend to loose what made it a classic film in the first place. Lines of dialog that really hit you the first time you hear them, or the scene that just works really well can and usually are totally lost in translation from one film to another. I suppose logically, you could take a film like Zombie Nation, remake it and have an instant classic :D |
Press Junketeer Posts: 457 Joined: 2 Jun 2008 | The Italian Job, King Kong and Get Carter spring to mind immediately. I hate around 97% of modern films anyway but remakes just don't work. things I'd hate to see a remake of: |
Beat Writer Posts: 132 Joined: 16 Apr 2008 | I'm just tired of remakes. Just watch Mackenzie's video review of the Pulse remake. "'Most original horror movie of the year.' ...How can it be original, if it is a fucking remake?" |
Copy Clerk Posts: 67 Joined: 10 Apr 2008 | I'm not a fan of "remakes" unless they can be significantly improved today. Some movies are amazing, but poor technology means the special effects turn it from a masterpiece to a comedy of errors, or you have a great script and idea, but the poor acting (which was either great at the time, or the best they could afford) lets it down. Remake it today and it could meet it's full potential. A "reimagining" however, I really like. Rob Zombie's Halloween carried the basic story and feel of the original, but was a completely different movie from the first. The new Dawn of the Dead was again different, this time more direct shock horror than social commentary. Vanilla Sky is an altered version of a spanish film whose name I can't remember, quite different, but similar basic premise. Even the Tim Burton Willy Wonka was great - it doesn't attempt to replace the childhood favourite, merely provide a different, more adult (and slightly trippy/creepy) feel. It doesn't really count as a "remake," but I can't stand a movie based from a book which misses the point of the text altogether - like the Omega Man/I am Legend movies for the I am Legend book (haven't seen Last Man on Earth yet, so can't judge it, but I've been told it's the closest to the source material). They completely avoid the loneliness and human nature/relationships focus, and instead decide to turn it into action/survival horror. What is an amazingly moving and powerful book instead turns into a weakly presented popcorn movie with no respect for its source. |
Muckraker Posts: 263 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 | The Pink Panther 'Nuff Said'. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 24 Jul 2008 |
I almost lost my love of Spiderman because of those movies. Thankfully there hasn't been a fourth movie to deliver the killing blow to the character. (I grew up as a Spiderman fan, those movies were just awful) I would like to see remakes of some musicals, just to see who they would get to play some of the main parts. And just for kicks, remake the film version of The Rocky Horror Picture Show with Johnny Depp as Frank-N-Furter,(I just can't think of another guy who wouldn't make me gag if I saw him in drag) Natalie Portman as Janet, Steve Carell as Brad, and maybe Helena Bonham Carter could pull off Magenta. No idea who I'd want to see play Riff Raff or Rocky, though. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3627 Joined: 25 Jan 2008 | I like remakes. It's hollywood's chance to modernize a classic, repair a fuckup, or reinvent a series. Proclaiming to hate remakes is to hate Batman Begins and the Dark Knight, and if you hate those two, you need to check yourself for neurological issues. That being said, not every remake is warranted, or surpasses (or at times even equals) the original. Hulk showed us that it is possible to pour cash in hand-over-fist to a project and still make it look worse than the 20-year-old original. The Incredible Hulk proved that even if a remake is half-way decent, if it's remade too soon after the first it will flop by association. Superman showed us that if a remake is done just right, you can fudge up any chance of ever reviving a franchise... EVER! So done right, I'm all for remakes. OP mentioned remaking StarWars IV, I've been dying for them to do just that. There are the people out there who loved the "acting" and think to tamper with the original StarWars would be a crime, but there are also others like me who love it for the overall story and the epic fleet battles, and would trade that hack Mark Hamill for better CG renditions of the Death Star scene and having six sequential movies that look the same in style (instead of 3 new, 3 ancient). Nothing pleases everybody, but remaking the show comes close. Remaking StarWars wouldn't cause copies of the originals to insta-melt on their owners, so if someone didn't like the remake they still have their precious original, but by having a remake, those on my side of the fence are ALSO pleased. Shows I'd like to see remade (assuming they're done well) Also, no longer possible, but if One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest could have been redone with Heath Ledger as McMurphey, I think Heath could have easily matched/outdone Jack's wicked performance. But he's dead, dead, dead... Why so serious? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2117 Joined: 7 Mar 2008 |
isn't that just a remake of nosferatu? honestly there's so many movies that are remakes of older movies that most ppl wouldn't realize it the story of dracula is one of the most remade stories of all time |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1126 Joined: 17 Jun 2008 |
First those aren't remakes of any of the old Batman movies and I'm sure there are some people that didn't like them and have good reasons. (OMG someone doesn't like something you like! How dare they?) |
Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 24 Jul 2008 |
That's the one movie I ever considered leaving halfway through, but I made myself stay in the hopes that they would pull some miraculously amazing ending out of their ass. No such luck. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3627 Joined: 25 Jan 2008 |
I'd just settle for them not chopping 1/2 of the plot out of the movie. If you've ever read the book, you'd find this segment in between the rescue of the Elf hottie and the battle in the valley, and said segment was oh, just the ENTIRE plot of the movie. No dwarves, no dwarven city, no cracked sacred crystal floor which eliminates the second book as a film (which in a way is a mercy), and much more.
Batman Begins is essentially a remake of Batman, yes the baddies aren't the same, but it's Batman's "Origin" movie. The Dark Knight is not directly a remake, but does recapture the glory of again Batman 1. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 54 Joined: 24 Jul 2008 |
What really ticked me off was that there was no travel time. They start out, ten seconds later they're in the next town, ten seconds later they're rescuing the Elf, ten seconds later they're fighting the Shade. The hell? |
Beat Writer Posts: 204 Joined: 8 Jul 2008 | Death Race is gonna piss me the fuck off. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3627 Joined: 25 Jan 2008 |
Saphira growing up was a plot shortcut that I could agree with them doing if they hadn't chopped much else out. Eragon would either have to be a trilogy just for the first novel (or at least two films) if they didn't chop anything. Accelerated growth on Saphira could have allowed them to make a three-hour single film instead of two/three shorter films, but they botched that up and stripped the whole works to under an hour and a half... |
Beat Writer Posts: 159 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 ![]() | |
"Remake" is the new "Originality" in the movie business now. Directors think that by remaking a groundbreaking classic movie that they will get our praise.
Isnt that an insult? Trying to fix something thats not broken, with better graphics and shitty overpaid celebrities playing lead roles of characters we once loved as children?
What if a third-party movie company tried remaking star wars episode IV?? Staring Johnny Depp or Adam Sandler as Luke Skywalker and Hillary Duff as princess Lea? wouldn't you be outraged?
I would.
What movies or crappy sequels of movies where you outraged to hear were created that shouldnt have been made?
Or movies that you were glad they remade?
Movies you hope they remake?
Or movies you hope will never, ever be remade in the future because theyre great the way they are.