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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1632 Joined: 6 Jun 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3022 Joined: 8 May 2008     | I like Nvidia since well they impress my with their "Bang for buck? Bah! More Power! Unlimited Power!" And it seems to be Nvidia/Intel and ATI/AMD and Intel wipes the floor with AMD. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1180 Joined: 26 Mar 2008  | Its a good idea not to have any bias when it comes to GPUs, because both ATI and Nvidia have ups and down. For a long time now Nvidia has had a strong lead on ATI but the recent 4850 and 4870 cards have changed the balance of power now. The battles between these two companies are famous. Currently i would say they are about nearly even right now, the ATI 4850 and NVIDIA 8800GT are bargin upper mid range cards. But the 4870 for its price does give ATI the lead right now. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 580 Joined: 19 May 2008    | I have used both ATI and nvidia cards in the past. Personally thought I prefer Nvidia as more games in my books seem to work better with nvidia cards. Always found ATI more from graphic design and gaming while nvidia is just pure hardcore gaming. The new ATI cards are nice and all, but nothing will satisfy me as much as my 9800GX2...my precious :) |
Copy Clerk Posts: 107 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 | As a former ATI fanboy, I have the 8800GT and I stand behind it fully. Both companies are good, but ATI has been disappointing since AMD took over. I remember "in the old days" getting to choose between brand X nvidia, and the higher quality built by ATI cards. So anytime I ever saw nvidia cards, it looked like crap, and chose ATI over it. To top it off, the one time I did try a Nvidia card, it hated my PC. Didn't work at all. I also remember the reviews being something like Nvidia would make something that was a small improvement over ATI's card, and then ATI would respond by making something that would smash the Nvidia card. It seems like that has reversed now, because ATI doesn't build half the cards on the market, and I see a lot better companies taking the chance to make an Nvidia card. Really, upon reflection, all my fanboying has just been based off of image. ATI's image dropped for me when AMD took over. They both make great cards, and I bet any gamer who spends what he wants on a card wont be disappointed in his choice, whoever he chooses. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 585 Joined: 9 Feb 2008 |
My rig has an 8800GT and the only game that exists right now I can't play on the highest settings fluidly is Crysis. Don't buy the 'Ferrari' of video cards. Too impractical. buy whatever was top of the line 2 years ago and you won't have any problems and will have saved 300 bucks. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3022 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Well if you want to play Crysis on Max... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4444 Joined: 23 Dec 2007    | And I thought I was cool with a measly GeForce 6150LE, and how. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2117 Joined: 7 Mar 2008  | well i've owned both ati and nvidia cards over the years, 3 of each to be exact. honestly i stand behind nvidia all the way. simple reason best support around nvidia for about 10 years has had 1 set of drivers for all their cards, they work great and they're fully cross platform with simultaneous releases on all platforms ati good cards but crappy driver support, if you don't have the latest card you have no supported drivers for your card, no matter how buggy they are. case in point ati cards crashed on kotr lots, however ati would not patch the older cards to fix their problem so for now my money goes to nvidia cards cause they don't really disappoint |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1632 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 | There is an advantage to getting the best video card at the moment. The advantage is when the card becomes too outdated, that is when a card can't run modern games which takes longer that it takes for a card to become "outdated". For example, our friend Anarchemitis is using a 6150LE which is becoming "too outdated" as modern games require at least a 6800 to play. So getting a top of the line card will put off the "too outdated" time off. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3903 Joined: 26 Feb 2008  |
SERIOUSLY? I have seen your videos, and the graphics are incredible. Nothing even close to what I can get. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 134 Joined: 19 Jan 2008  | NVidia seems to be going down, since most of their last generation GPUs are defective, apparently. They die very quickly. Plus ATI has more stable and better drivers, comes out with new ones regularly, and fully supports DX 10.1. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1632 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 |
Really? I hear the exact opposite of that all the time (except for the DX10.1 part, that I know). What's your source? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1151 Joined: 20 Jul 2008  | My motherboard supports crossfire so if I could get a few of these bad boys I would be set for years. Naturally though I would have to sell my kidney to pay for it. 1 card is enough for me anyway and Nvidia seems to be more compatible with most graphics in games. ATI is getting a lead though with the new 2gb graphic cards though ATI have more heating issues than Nvidia in some occasions. |
PROBATION  Posts: 2828 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 |
That's funny you say nVidia/Intel because of all the dissing and drama between the two chippy giants: http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/25/nvidia-throws-another-punch-sez-larrabee-wouldve-been-hot-in-2/ ...And so on.
Two years ago, the 7900GX2 was the king and my mid-range 8800GT utterly kills it. Don't buy top of the line cards, whether they're from the present or the past. Just get super mid-range cards which offer you nearly 90% of their TotL brethren but cost ~200 or less (notable GPUs include ATI's 9800 Pro and HD4850 and nVidia's 6600GT, 7600GT, and 8800GT). User was put on probation for: Poll: CoD: WaW. Its got major issues.. (3 days) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3022 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
What marriage doesn't have arguments? And AMD does own ATI. |
PROBATION Posts: 2828 Joined: 21 Aug 2008 | I think it would be nice if nVidia and Intel didn't fight...at least the Core i7 X58 Intel chipset is going to have native SLI! :hooray: User was put on probation for: Poll: CoD: WaW. Its got major issues.. (3 days) |
Beat Writer Posts: 134 Joined: 19 Jan 2008 |
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/08/28/nvidia-55nm-parts-bad Engadget too. Oh and about the drivers - AMD WHQL certifies every one of them. Also, here's the statistics about BSODs on Vista: http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/28/nvidia-drivers-cause-29-of-vista-crashes/ NVidia - 28.8%. ATI - 9.3%. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2117 Joined: 7 Mar 2008 |
actually i think he was refering to the driver support cause ati driver support is crap and whql driver support means nothing, they can still be crappy and be certified :)
right and if you adjust for how many ppl use which cards, nvidia being around 60% of the cards, and ati being around 30%, logic dictates that nvidia cards would crash more and have a higher percentage of such stats can be made to prove anything, all you've proven is nvidia is way more popular |
Beat Writer Posts: 134 Joined: 19 Jan 2008 |
Not quite - if we use your numbers (NVidia is 2x of ATI) and ATI is twice worse than NVidia, then the number of crashes should also be comparable. IE ATI # * 2 should be equal to NVidia #. However, the value is 1 vs 3. So either the ratio of ATI to NVidia cards is different, or the driver quality is different. Haven't been able to find the ratio for Vista machines only - Steam has a breakdown of total ATI vs. total NVidia, but those include other Windows versions. 80% of people are still on XP, after all. Oh, and WHQL is by no means a full or comprehensive set, but it is a pretty good start. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1632 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 |
And that's where your argument falls apart, because Nvidia became more popular about when Vista came out because that's when Nvidia released the 8 series. So there are probably more XP users using older ATI cards because ATI cards were better than Nvidia's at the time. With Vista there could very well be 3 times as many Nvidia cards as ATI cards. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 199 Joined: 1 Jan 2008  | I always found ATI cards to have superior texture and shading power but not quite as high for polygon count. Though most newer games actually have less polygons with more focus on high quality textures. Could be just me though. I still prefer AMD over Intel. Though this is almost entirely still sour taste from back when intel was a complete joke for gaming. I hear they have stepped up though. now that AMD owns ATI I feel even less motivation to switch. At the end of the day you get what you pay for and I doubt either side will be disappointed. Though ATI is a Canadian company and it's always nice to buy domestic products. |
Web Developer  Posts: 237 Joined: 6 Jun 2007   | The 4870 X2 is two GPUs on one card. You're getting about the performance of having two separate cards, with some savings due to not dedicating all the supporting architecture for a complete 2nd card. The new nVidia 200 series cards are very much 'bleeding edge' technology, so while the initial cards might seem lackluster, as the tech matures further offerings should show marked improvements in performance. For a deeper look at the technical aspects of the cards you can find some good articles over at tomshardware.com |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2082 Joined: 12 May 2008 | The GTX280 is a piece of aids and fail. Any decent PC builder can see that. If you want to play games at maximum resolution with anti aliasing cranked up, you wanna get yourself a 9800GX2. I got one of those babies about a month ago...DAAAAMN. That is the best way I can describe it. This card took Assassin's Creed, ate it up, let it digest a bit, spit it back out, and then urinated all over it. I mean, Assassin's Creed with all the setting turned to the max looks absolutely GORGEOUS. It should also be known that I avoid AMD like the plague. Because to be honest, I would rather deal with the plague then their lack luster costumer service. Any AMD fanboy should hear the conversation I had with an AMD agent. ME:Hey...AMD, your drivers are really fucked up, can you fix them please? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1632 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 |
Actually the GTX 280 is beating the 9800GX2 in several games. |
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http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd4870x2/
I just recently read this review for the ATI Radeon HD4870 X2. If you look at it there are 2 games that the 4870 X2 beats the GTX 280 by a large margin. The rest of the games has the GTX 280 only lose in the highest resolutions with all the settings turned up and then only by a few FPS, otherwise doing better than the HD4870 X2. So how come all the reviewers are going nuts over this card? If you listened to them you'd thing the HD4870 X2 descended from heaven to give Nvidia 5 across the eyes. It's not just this review but several others as well. After Nvidia's price cut I can't find a real justifiable reason to buy the ATI card.