any of them that arent family guy, south park or king of the hill.

Blood + : My theory is they took the original movie and went "Hmmmm, ho can we make this better for the mainstream crowd?" and turned her from a badass hunter to an annoying squealy girl and removed all the grit and suspense of the franchise to make room for her kawaii factor.

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: "I want this! I want that! I'm gonna break all the rules because I'm such a rebel! *molest!* *blackmail!*"
"Actually, we're all just letting you think you are."
Ugh, it's so annoying, all my friends want me to watch it.

Bleach: At AnimeNext it was nothing but kids dressed as this. Seriously. I tried asking what it's about and no one would give me a short, concise summary. Instead I got the whole crazy backstory. Then someone came out and said DBZ with swords and I was like, "groovy."

Correcter Yui: Cardcaptor Sakura rip-off about technology instead of magic.

Elfen Lied: People recommended I see it after ranting about how much I love Higurashi and I was bored after the first episode, its only appeal is the blood, you take it out and it's more or less Chobits. I mean it! The main girl is exactly like Chi if her inner self was a psychopath with a blood fetish.

Also, there's staples of anime that I'm sick of seeing all the time.

-Whenever a girl is drinking and she puts it down with a huge sigh and giggles.
-The crazy retarded pinkie-swear
-Anytime girls are eating something for the first time and after the first bite they gasp and say "ooishii!!" [delicious!!]
-Animals that don't speak, but the owner can understand [example: Potato from Air]
-The annoying, bitchy little girl who antagonizes the main character because she either misses her family or she loves him or something. [example: Satoko from Higurashi, Michiru from Air]

Lord Krunk:

Copter400:

Khell_Sennet:
Digimon - Seriously, I love it. I love the 'mons, I love the story/premise, and I even love the merchandising. The voice talents were well chosen, the show is as americanized as it can get so there's no ridiculous translation errors, and plain and simple, it's FUN. Now the sick and twisted part of me would like a more 18A or "R" version of the show, with gore and violence cranked up high enough to make "Aliens" look "G" rated, but for what it is, I still like it.

I'll tell you what I did like about Digimon. It was frequently much darker than Pokemon could ever hope to be, especially in the fourth season.

Yeah, I forgot that.

I agree. I loved Digimon, especially for that element. Although, I only watched the first season.

I loved Digimon, but I didn't watch the 3rd season because I hated the new characters. I did watch most of the 4th season and aside from reintroducing all the characters and the whole ridiculous "the kids ARE the digimon" thing, I enjoyed the plot. I loved the twins and the main guy.

All of them. I just don't get what's so great about anime. Watch real TV.

They're all unbearable.

The .hack series.

It's an interesting premise, but it's so melodramatic that it makes me cringe.

If it's not FMA, Neon-genesis-evangelion, Hellsing, Tri-gun, Cowboy be-bop or gundam wing (i probably have missed one) Then it can go die.

NonMagicPoet:
Blood + : My theory is they took the original movie and went "Hmmmm, ho can we make this better for the mainstream crowd?" and turned her from a badass hunter to an annoying squealy girl and removed all the grit and suspense of the franchise to make room for her kawaii factor.

A 10 year old boy gets raped! That's pretty gritty.

dalek sec:
I know I'll be put to death for saying this but I rather like Excel Saga. Sometimes I just need some very random antics.

13 hours of almost the exact same antics, even if enjoyable at first, steals any joy you ever had and makes you long for the release of death.

HATE: everey anime after it crossed the 70+ episode limit, after that it is bound to be crappy.

How the fuck can you hate the .hack anime? It's like hating psychonauts, it's fine because that is your opinion but there are so many more who deserve to be hated

T

inu-kun:
HATE: everey anime after it crossed the 70+ episode limit, after that it is bound to be crappy.

How the fuck can you hate the .hack anime? It's like hating psychonauts, it's fine because that is your opinion but there are so many more who deserve to be hated

There's a difference between Psychonauts and .hack:

One is a great game.

The other is a crappy anime :)

Most of them. Elfen lied stands out. A friend told me it was awesome, one of the few animes worth watching. I could see all the plot twists right from the beginning. Incest was in the air at all times. I dunno why people praise it so much. The intro screams "this is a mature anime so we'll show the protagonist's flesh as much as possible". And they do. A lot.

Ironically, i don't hate dragonball Z, mainly because of the great job the dubbers made. I still think the portuguese version is much better than any other, including the japanese version. Portuguese pop culture references, constant breaking of the fourth wall (like goku explaining majin boo that it's useless of him to use his full power because there were still 20 more episodes, or gohan, relieved that goku is alive, saying that him and all the kids that skipped school to watch the show were relieved that he was ok). This anime was a phenom here in my country, and no anime before or after it got so much popularity.

Have i already said this somewhere else? ~^

FLCL. I have absolutely no idea how anyone can find that show good.

I hate pretty much any anime that is based off a stupid card game or gimmick toy. I hate the 4 kids dub of One Piece (although I love One Piece subbed).

As for some of this other stuff...

Naruto is just fine if you stop around 130, after the big naruto/sasuke fight. Naruto filler makes me want to kill babies. The naruto movies are crap, except for the latest one because rock lee busts out with the weapons. The dub is semi watchable, especially if you just watched a shitty dub like one piece.

Inuyasha doesn't conclude, it just kinda ends unresolved. If there is a movie or something that resolves the storyline, I just don't care.

As for the turd who said he can't stand any of them and we should just watch 'real tv'...
I've watched 'real' tv. It's crap. It's more of the same old recycled garbage every year. I've always watched anime for the outstanding storylines and great characters.

Loved Bleach, but it didn't half bloody begin to drag episode 50 onwards. Seriously, showing the same fight scene and the same move from fifty different angles and then rolling credits ain't the best way to keep an audience interested. I guess that's the problem with all mainstream Anime, though.

Tenjo Tinge. I dare anybody to sit through so much as the opening theme and not gag. This craptastic series features the token scary black guy, a chauvinist's dream girl, and the requisite white-haired buxom tart who I kid you not has the ability to transform from a midget to her full 44DD form complete with a transformation sequence that makes me want to hurl uncontrollably.

Sidetracking for a minute, I also hate series with production companies who think the stereotype of every other word in English being "fuck" is the gold standard to appeal to the American market. In the right context, it works. With Black Lagoon, for example, you know what you're getting: a two-fisted blood and bullets anime series which takes the best from any Quentin Terentino film and runs with it, and it works. In other series, it can be awkwardly jarring. I'm watching Beck right now, and for all accounts, I'm trying to like it. The story of a kid's journey from wimp to rock superstar is solid gold, if it weren't for the fact that each character seems to have the vocal habits of a so-cal junior higher, which is utterly jarring.

Getting back to topic, I'd like to apologize in advance for the sacred cow I'm about to slaughter with a machete and for the resulting flame war. You have been warned.

Neo Genesis Evangellion. I can never bring myself to watch this series. This comes from years of hearing my Father quote directly from Revelation and describe in detail the fire and brimstone that is to rain from the heavens during judgment day every time something wrong happens in this world. Couple that inherit fear with the fact that NGE stars a group of batshit-insane fourteen-year-olds who pilot giant mechs fighting giant "angels" and demons alike during the apocalypse while their glass-fragile psyches shatter at any given moment. The real kicker is the creator has at best the same kind of Revelation know-how that you could find in films such as The Fifth Element and handles it with all the subtlety and sensitivity of Michael Bay. As far as I'm concerned, NGE is a series that might as well be made of pure cyanide.

Couple things about the Anime fandom that piss me off.

Anime is a cartoon. Get over it.

American anime is no better or worse in design/style than Japanese. If the story is good, the voice talent actually talented, and the animation is well done, it doesn't matter what nation made it. It's like comparing Italian food made by an Italian or a Canadian. Yes the Italian is more likely to be a better cook, but simply being Italian doesn't guarantee its good. Likewise nothing says a Canadian can't out-cook an Italian at their own cuisine.

And most piss-off of all... People who insist Subtitled is superior to dubbed.
YES, some shows mistranslate, or PG-translate for the american audience.
YES, some American voice talents suck at their job.
But who cares? Not everyone wants to listen to the Japanese while understanding none of it, and having to read the show instead of watch it. Now that Anime is going more mainstream (fuck I hate that word), the talent is improving. Maze, Slayers, Wolf's Rain, Evangelion, Nadesico, Armitage III, Dragon Drive, Digimon, Those Who Hunt Elves, and all the various Miyazaki films... All those shows, I will ONLY watch dubbed. They sound just fine, and I don't need to strain my ears to figure out which whiny high-pitched Japanese squaking is which female character.

I personally can't stand Naruto now. It was fun at first, but then got weird...and boring.

I don't watch anime, I READ it like you're supposed to.

Well for me it would have to be:

-Dragonball whatever: Back when your a 5 year old with ADD it's AWESOME, but I lok at it now it's pure garbage and I resent ever watching such trash.

-Bleach: It just doesnt have that appeal to me

-Naruto: crap, crap, and even MORE crap. These people have the nerve to call themselves ninja!?

-Any anime based off of a card game, toy, ect.. I'm looking at you yu-gi-oh, bakugan, bayblade, ect..

-Inuyasha: I didn't mind it at first, it began as a fine series to me, but then it just went down hill

-Pokemon: once again as a kid it was great, but now it's the most repetitive bore fest ever, I cant bring myself to ever watch it, I wont even let my kids ever watch it.

-Gundam SEED series: You sons of a bitches!! I liked you the first time I saw you, then I realized your nothing but a god damn rip off in every aspect, just with more bitchy teenagers, of the UC series!! SEED did NOTHING but rip off the original Gundam; which I LOVE, and made it a train wreck of annoying characters, over the top battles, and overly flashy giant toys they have the nerve to call mobile suits. Seriously I was pissed off that they ripped off the UC (universal century) series so badly. Every time I would see that come on TV I would go watch 08th MS team, as THAT's how a Gundam series should be.

Khell_Sennet:
Couple things about the Anime fandom that piss me off.

Anime is a cartoon. Get over it.

American anime is no better or worse in design/style than Japanese. If the story is good, the voice talent actually talented, and the animation is well done, it doesn't matter what nation made it. It's like comparing Italian food made by an Italian or a Canadian. Yes the Italian is more likely to be a better cook, but simply being Italian doesn't guarantee its good. Likewise nothing says a Canadian can't out-cook an Italian at their own cuisine.

I strongly disagree. If the Italian made an Italian style pizza and the Canadian made an American style pizza, then I would agree with your analogy. Both are cartoons (or pizza), but created in different methods, different cultures, etcetera.

It is quite easy to see the differencences between an American-based cartoon or a Japanese style one or a French styled one and so forth. Sure it's all animation when you get down to it and both are pizzas, but one is a thin crust pizza you'd tend to get in a restaraunt and the other is a deep dish with gooey cheese and all the trimmings.

tl;dr: At the base they are the same thing, but they are fundamentally different when you get down to the details.

*edit*

While I've noticed you said something slightly different to what I thought you said, I still have a point I'd like to make in there. Somewhere.

Haruhi annoyed me because it's so pretentious. Yes, the episodes are aired out of order. On purpose. Wow. Now all the anime needs is something interesting to happen in those episodes. The novels worked for me because they were novels, and they were ordered. As an anime, you never know when something interesting will happen. And since you only get development at the end, there's no reason to not simply go on wikipedia and read about which episode has something good happening, then watch only those two or three episodes.
Also, Hellsing and Trigun were great in spite of having invincible protagonists. Perhaps I sympathise because one of the recurring characters in my novels is immortal, but then again it may be because it greats a way of watching a character for development while maintaining the "anyone can die" scenario.

I hate every anime in existance. The kids ones on television (e.g Yu-gi-oh or somesuch)...do I really need a reason for hating those? And I remember my friend sending me a link to the first episode of 'The Melancholy of Something or Other'. Well...I must say I laughed, but only because of how bad it was.

Well I can stand just about any anime. There are just some animes that I just get bored with and stop watching, I have yet to find an anime that I truly hate.

Edit: Also, dubed versions of animes should alomst NEVER be watched! (Most people who don't like animes have only the dubbed version.)
And, just about every anime I have ever seen starts to drag on after about one or two seasons(the best anime are usually short and sweet).

GoldCrow:
I hate every anime in existance. The kids ones on television (e.g Yu-gi-oh or somesuch)...do I really need a reason for hating those? And I remember my friend sending me a link to the first episode of 'The Melancholy of Something or Other'. Well...I must say I laughed, but only because of how bad it was.

The first episode was supposed to be bad. They decided that the best way to draw people in was to replace the first episode with a movie the characters make for a school festival. The actual story begins on the second episode. Watch that, then hate it.

It irritates me when people declare that all anime sucks. It's a fucking medium. You don't read a chapter of the latest popular novel from the supermarket and decide that books are terrible, and you don't watch MTV for ten minutes and give up on all music.

Series that goes on forever, like Naruto and One Piece and Bleach and... ok I'll stop now.

NonMagicPoet:

Also, there's staples of anime that I'm sick of seeing all the time.

-Whenever a girl is drinking and she puts it down with a huge sigh and giggles.
-The crazy retarded pinkie-swear
-Anytime girls are eating something for the first time and after the first bite they gasp and say "ooishii!!" [delicious!!]
-Animals that don't speak, but the owner can understand [example: Potato from Air]
-The annoying, bitchy little girl who antagonizes the main character because she either misses her family or she loves him or something. [example: Satoko from Higurashi, Michiru from Air]

I don't think I've ever been so certain that a forum poster was a girl. Anyway, Anime has never been all that mature about girls to begin with, so griping about that stuff is kinda pointless, if you ask me.

Amplify:

I strongly disagree. If the Italian made an Italian style pizza and the Canadian made an American style pizza, then I would agree with your analogy. Both are cartoons (or pizza), but created in different methods, different cultures, etcetera.

It is quite easy to see the differencences between an American-based cartoon or a Japanese style one or a French styled one and so forth. Sure it's all animation when you get down to it and both are pizzas, but one is a thin crust pizza you'd tend to get in a restaraunt and the other is a deep dish with gooey cheese and all the trimmings.

Truly I don't see a difference in animation. The ONLY noticeable difference between American and Japanese anime is plot. Japanese humor is different, story structure is changed, and the plot is usually either deeper than American shows, or completely slapstick. It doesn't matter if it's an American or Japanese show, they're all drawn in Korea in the same "studio".

And I know you mentioned you misread my point, put plainly my point was that simply being Italian doesn't grant someone superior cooking skills to that of a Canadian. It IS possible for a person of one nationality to do a better job than someone of another nationality, even when the second nation is credited for being the original. Case and point, hockey. It's a Canadian sport, but Russians now dominate in the game.

ALL of them.

Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo. A little randomness here and there can be funny, but my god. Even after I realized that the show had a plot, I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on.

For those of you saying you hate "all anime", what exactly don't you like about it? I can almost guarantee it's a misguided stereotype based on a few of the more popular shows.

"It's just a bunch of guys powering up for OVER NINE THOUSAND episodes!!!"
DBZ is one of the slowest paced animes I've seen. I still love it, but I can see why it might not appeal to everyone. Most animes assume that people don't want to wait 20 episodes to see a battle's conclusion. Some even take the "to hell with it" route with story and exposition and just throw fight scene after fight scene at the viewer, if that's what you prefer.

"The voice acting is terrible... believe it!"
I have actually seen a few animes with worse English dubs than Naruto, but they are few and far between. Before you complain about the voice acting in an anime, please, for the love of god, watch the sub first. In almost every case, it is far superior to the English actors' attempts to portray their characters.

One of the more legitimate complaints is when people stick to the English dubs because they don't want to read what is being said, and would rather hear it being spoken in their own language. This is a fair point. To these people, I would recommend watching some of the animes that actually have a good English dub, to see if they can enjoy an anime without that particular barrier in the way. Some examples of English dubs done right would be Full Metal Alchemist, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and, if you can handle point 1 above, Dragon Ball Z.

"Everyone who watches anime is all 'OMG anime is kawaii =^.^='"
Please don't hate the medium because of those who watch it. Otakus can be a bit... enthusiastic about what they like. My only advice would be to ignore them, and try to appreciate anime for what it is instead of who watches it.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but please, don't make an assumption about an entire genre based on only a few examples.

wildcard9:
Neo Genesis Evangellion. I can never bring myself to watch this series. This comes from years of hearing my Father quote directly from Revelation and describe in detail the fire and brimstone that is to rain from the heavens during judgment day every time something wrong happens in this world. Couple that inherit fear with the fact that NGE stars a group of batshit-insane fourteen-year-olds who pilot giant mechs fighting giant "angels" and demons alike during the apocalypse while their glass-fragile psyches shatter at any given moment. The real kicker is the creator has at best the same kind of Revelation know-how that you could find in films such as The Fifth Element and handles it with all the subtlety and sensitivity of Michael Bay. As far as I'm concerned, NGE is a series that might as well be made of pure cyanide.

As much as I love NGE, I will admite that the cyanide comment made me laugh. The series is about depression and how to deal with life. I think the deputy director of the series(forgot his name) said it best when he stated that people who are already happy will never learn anything from the series. you need to understand depression to understand the Eva series. My father has bipolar disorder, so the series hits close to home for me. It is very powerful emotionally and philosophicaly, mixed with some badass action elements. Eva is not a show for everyone, but you cant watch it unless you put your mind to work.

hbomb:
Haruhi annoyed me because it's so pretentious.

I was turned off not so much by the out-of-order episodes, but by the fact they set up this great scenario of fear, doubt, perhaps the bleakest metaphysical position to be in, and don't do much with it.

hbomb:

Also, Hellsing and Trigun were great in spite of having invincible protagonists.

What are you talking about? Trigun didn't have an invincible protagonist.
As for Hellsing, nothing can kill him. He is absolutely immortal. The only conflict that exists is because the lead character's an asshole.

Gamer137:

Eva is not a show for everyone, but you cant watch it unless you put your mind to work.

That's an easy out though.
"I didn't like it"
"Well you don't REALLY understand depression then"

A pot of semi-liquefied squirrel feet could be said to be a real brain twister that you need to work to figure out.

Break:

It irritates me when people declare that all anime sucks. It's a fucking medium. You don't read a chapter of the latest popular novel from the supermarket and decide that books are terrible, and you don't watch MTV for ten minutes and give up on all music.

Well said, sir! They should say, 'The anime's that I have seen suck' or something along those lines.

Khell_Sennet:

Amplify:

I strongly disagree. If the Italian made an Italian style pizza and the Canadian made an American style pizza, then I would agree with your analogy. Both are cartoons (or pizza), but created in different methods, different cultures, etcetera.

It is quite easy to see the differencences between an American-based cartoon or a Japanese style one or a French styled one and so forth. Sure it's all animation when you get down to it and both are pizzas, but one is a thin crust pizza you'd tend to get in a restaraunt and the other is a deep dish with gooey cheese and all the trimmings.

Truly I don't see a difference in animation. The ONLY noticeable difference between American and Japanese anime is plot. Japanese humor is different, story structure is changed, and the plot is usually either deeper than American shows, or completely slapstick. It doesn't matter if it's an American or Japanese show, they're all drawn in Korea in the same "studio".

While mostly my point was about the plot, there are subtle differences between it all. The quickest way to tell is to just look at the face of any given character. There's just subtle differences in the way it's all done, for instance i've noticed the French tend to do thier anime as if their only artistic tools were Maya and 3DMax, with a light sprinkling of Photoshop and so forth, whereas the Japanese tend to bring some depth to a manga page and animate that instead. I've never been good at explaining myself but I do hope you get what I'm driving at.

Mind you, perhaps it's just easier for me to spot the subtle. I have a tendancy to quite accuratley guess major (and minor) plot points / twists half an hour into a film or 10 episodes before it happens / is revealed. Kinda spoils watching films for me.