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Poll: American English or English English?


So, which do you use? (Accompanying post preferred.)
American English
36.9% (111)
36.9% (111)
English English
63.1% (190)
63.1% (190)
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Labyrinth
Gone Gonzo
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I've always used distinctly British English. Not to belabour the point or anything, but I find that I am better able to discuss things in this language style. And to be honest, nothing annoys me more than being asked "When are y'all gonna learn to spell?" by some American hick on a chatroom after putting 'u' in words, or spelling programme as it should be.

ANTI-SANTA
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Hey, what about australian english? we're one third of the countries that speak english (Ireland, Scotland, and England i'm counting as all one country)

sirdanrhodes
Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 7 Nov 2007

I speak english english...because...I am english...

(however, this tends to get me voted off TF2 servers)

Uncompetative
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Joined: 2 Jul 2008

I use either the Queen's English (what BBC Newsreaders use, or The Times Newspaper), but occasionally lapse into Colloquial English so that I am in less chance of being beaten up. Really it is a matter of adapting to my audience. Are you familiar with Heteroglossia? This explains professional jargons which a group of experts lapse into when in close company in order to maximise the information content of their communication (to say more with less syllables), although some of it has to do with excluding others (security from eavesdroppers and elitism), as well as trendiness, such as: 133t-speak, or glyph-reduction, as with TXTs on mobile phones.

However, I find that my spelling checker underlines a lot of my words as it assumes I want to use American English. I can't figure out how to get Mac OS X Leopard to use plain 'English' and not throw a fit when I type 'colour'. Any suggestions would be appreciated... because I find that I now adjust my spelling so that it passes and am forgetting the correct way to write in my own language.

As an aside, as I've said before it irritates me no end that I am classed as a citizen of Great Britain (which I find to be pretentious) with the nationality 'British', using 'British English'. No, sorry, I'm English, I live in England, which is currently part of the United Kingdom, but I would be much happier if it were simply a member state of the European Union, then my passport would say Nationality: English, and simply indicate that I was a European. I'm sure if the US had originated a world-dominant language, say Navajo they wouldn't qualify it as American Navajo to distinguish it from its divergent UK dialect British Navajo, so why aren't we proud to say we use English?

Lord Krunk
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 2692
Joined: 3 Mar 2008

I will only ever use American English for Chocolate Chip Cookies.

Something about naming Anzac Biscuits "Anzac Cookies" just makes me cringe.

But, seeming as you managed to put chocolate into a biscuit earns my use of "Cookie," at least for that.

Also, what's with Freedom Fries?

Haliwali
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Posts: 713
Joined: 29 Jan 2008

North American English.
Gets me made fun of plenty living in Southern U.S.

TonyOfPlimith
Copy Clerk
Posts: 54
Joined: 14 May 2008

English (England). I implore this particular dialect as it is the original and obviously the correct version of the language...

@ sirdanrhodes

You think you've got it bad? I'm Irish and my wonderful accent causes everyone on any given server to start to impersonate me... Quite annoying really, because they can never get it right...

Oh and @ ANTI-SANTA ... no, they are not all one country and cannot be considered so...

Ixus Illwrath
Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 585
Joined: 9 Feb 2008

Damn, a few weeks ago I would've stuck with our US english, but after listening to mountains of Christopher Hitchens youtube debates, I'm about to convert.

Eipok Kruden
Beat Writer
Posts: 167
Joined: 29 Aug 2008

a hybrid of both. I use phrases and words from both. I was Born in Hungary and raised in the U.S. and England. I have lived in the U.S. most my life, but I lived in England for 2 years.

Cid SilverWing
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Posts: 328
Joined: 27 Jul 2008

I write and speak in American English. Simple enough.

NewClassic
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1331
Joined: 30 Jul 2008

Lord Krunk:
Also, what's with Freedom Fries?

I have no ideas. I cede that Americans can be retarded at times.

jdog345
Beat Writer
Posts: 181
Joined: 10 Jul 2008

[quote=Lord Krunk post=18.70217.688067]

Also, what's with Freedom Fries?[/quote

they are like freedom kisses.*sarcasm*

ianuam
Beat Writer
Posts: 224
Joined: 28 Aug 2008

English English. Due to the fact i was born, and reside in, England.

redbeta22
Paperboy
Posts: 15
Joined: 28 Aug 2008

Canadian English! Eh?

needausername
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1376
Joined: 7 Aug 2008

I use "English English" as you put it, although I normally write in "American English" on the escapist as I don't particularly like the red lines I get when the computer thinks I have spelt something wrong

ThePlasmatizer
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Posts: 799
Joined: 2 Sep 2008

British English as I was born, taught and live here.

The idea of saying fanny packs make me rofl.

RemSaverem
Paperboy
Posts: 14
Joined: 13 Aug 2008

American, but I tend to use British spelling sometimes. Seriously, "Apologize" looks funny - I'd rather spell it "apologise". Also, "dialogue" looks better than "dialog".
I've lived in Japan, worked with British, Australian, Irish, and New Zealanders as well, so maybe that rubbed off on me a bit. I've gotten the hang of a lot of British and New Zealand slang, but the one I just can't quite figure out is "taking the piss". Sorry, after years of using the phrase "taking a piss" to mean "to urinate", I'm having a hard time figuring out the meaning and usage of "taking the piss" to mean "to make fun of someone". It's a bit odd to me.
That, and I find an English accent to be much more pleasing to the ear than an American accent, for some weird reason.

NewClassic
Gone Gonzo
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RemSaverem:
American, but I tend to use British spelling sometimes. Seriously, "Apologize" looks funny - I'd rather spell it "apologise". Also, "dialogue" looks better than "dialog".
I've lived in Japan, worked with British, Australian, Irish, and New Zealanders as well, so maybe that rubbed off on me a bit. I've gotten the hang of a lot of British and New Zealand slang, but the one I just can't quite figure out is "taking the piss". Sorry, after years of using the phrase "taking a piss" to mean "to urinate", I'm having a hard time figuring out the meaning and usage of "taking the piss" to mean "to make fun of someone". It's a bit odd to me.
That, and I find an English accent to be much more pleasing to the ear than an American accent, for some weird reason.

Depends on the accent, but I can understand what you mean. I still think the romance languages do a better job of being aurally pleasing, though.

MA7743W
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Joined: 24 Feb 2008

NewClassic:
Crepes or pancakes?

Crepes ? That's French, not English.

tendo82
Section Editor
Posts: 327
Joined: 30 Nov 2007

I would speak English English except that I can't decide what regional accent or socioeconomic class's accent I would want to affect. A Mancunian or Essex? Posh or cockney?

Seriously, having known some people from the UK, it's pretty shocking to me the extent to which an accent becomes an indicator of socioeconomic identity. The United States is relatively egalitarian in that sense, with relatively few accents, and even then only a small portion of them saddled with stereotypes.

Iron Mal
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Joined: 4 Jun 2008

I use English English partly because I am from England and partly because that is the version I encounter most of the time.

From what I understand, American English is the 'correct' one grammatically speaking (as in it hasn't changed that much since its initial introduction) although if we are going to on which version is 'correct' in terms of the language as it is spoken, that would be English English since it happens to be spoken by...the English (our language, our rules).

Ardiendo
Anonymous Source
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Joined: 2 Sep 2008

Eiseman:
I use American English, but let me just say that I find English English swearing a lot more enjoyable than the typical F-bomb. I dunno about you, but I visualize the act of calling someone a "tosser" as punching a guy in the face, but while wearing a top hat and monocle. You just wouldn't expect it to sound so darn proper.

LOL you don't realise how funny that sounds to an English person. I'm seriously laughing out loud here.

Anyway back on topic, being English I use English English (whoever called it 'British English' is wrong because the Scottish, Welsh and (Northern) Irish each have their own variation of the language, just as different regions in England have their own vernacular). Having said that I am not entirely against using American sayings and particularly like the way Americans say they have something 'and change' referring to a small, almost immesurable, amount.

GuerrillaClock
Beat Writer
Posts: 217
Joined: 11 Jul 2008

Well, it is called ENGLISH, so...

DraftPickle
Paperboy
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Joined: 20 Oct 2007

"The idea of saying fanny packs make me rofl."

SAME (For you Americans in Britain a 'Fanny' is a Vagina)
So now I can't stop laughing. Now especially on forums I tend to use British English because I can express myself and not get censored because most moderators are American and therefore don't know what I mean e.g...........'Bollocks'. Also in British English you can express yourself sooooo much more, but I can see US English being so much easier to learn, plus I use it when I talk fast. I'm from England btw

ChromeAlchemist
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Posts: 134
Joined: 21 Aug 2008

NewClassic:

spartanhelmet:
"American" English is a corruption of the original English language in terms of both spelling and grammar. It's introduced the use of nouns of verbality, the compulsive need to remove the letter 'u' from every word... and massive wikipedia articles like this one.

I'd almost like to disagree with this on principle, but I'm going to try to be rational about it. For one, the word corruption has a very negative connotation to it that I'd rather didn't play so contrary to what I'd like this thread to be about.

And from your overall diction, not only do you favor British English (although something of a misnomer, as this form of English is used more universally than just Britain, especially in terms of spelling), but you have a certain scorn of American English.

As a matter of fact, everything you've posed on the American English side, is remarkably negative. But, that aside, it is your choice on which to use, so I suppose this entire post is null.

you will find that many (probably not on this thread, but ones that i know) english/british peoples are usually annoyed at the fact that dialect has been turned into an official language ( i used to be one of these people, but i have come to turns with it now tbh). one of my friends even used to say 'maybe i should mispell words and make my own language!', but i ignore him, he said worse things on the matter but i wont get into them. what confuses me at times is that for some of the words for american english they are spelled phonetically (as the americans say 'aluminum' it said as its spelled) while others arent (vitamins, from what i have heard from americans, is pronounced 'v-eye-tamins, but not spelled as it is said).

Rshady
Copy Clerk
Posts: 90
Joined: 22 Jul 2008

English, English because I'm English. :D

I also think that the English way of spelling things looks much more intelligent.

NewClassic
Gone Gonzo
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Rshady:
English, English because I'm English. :D

I also think that the English way of spelling things looks much more intelligent.

I'd agree with you on some words, but some words' spellings are redundant the British/Australian/Canadian/screw it, English way.

BallPtPenTheif
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1411
Joined: 11 Jun 2008

American English, however I had a Welsh boss at my old job and a lot of stuff rubbed off.

"Bloody", I only seem to use it before the word "motherfucking"

"Twat", I use it frequently now.

"Dustbin", I learned it from the old Bill Hicks "lonely Dustbin in Shafsbry" bit and now find myself using it on occassion.

I'm sure there are others, but they aren't coming to mind.

scumofsociety
Infamous Scribbler
Posts: 534
Joined: 6 Jun 2008

I find Cornish English the most amusing. There is a phrase where I live that basically means 'I am in agreement with you my friend' but said with a strong local accent comes out sounding like 'ride on my cock'. Such fun.

Limasol
Muckraker
Posts: 239
Joined: 8 Feb 2008

I would just like to say i have never used: Gaol, prison or slammer are preferred.

Also south Africa, i imagine there is a wealth of interesting terms from there. Just goes to show what happens when organisms evolve in isolation

Beowulf DW
Press Junketeer
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Joined: 12 Jul 2008

NewClassic:

Lord Krunk:
Also, what's with Freedom Fries?

I have no ideas. I cede that Americans can be retarded at times.

Yeah...

We get like that sometimes...But it's never actually all of us at one time. Usually it's because of a bunch of neo-conservative Republicans who over-play the patriotism card. It scares me sometimes.

NewClassic
Gone Gonzo
Posts: 1331
Joined: 30 Jul 2008

I wouldn't single out the Republicans, entirely. Overzealous evangelists, back-breakingly liberal Democrats, celebrities, high school students... Okay, most of us, just at different intervals.

Russian_Assassin
Copy Clerk
Posts: 120
Joined: 24 Apr 2008

American English. I learned to speak and think the way our neighbors across the lake ocean do (too many movies, too many movies! and a pinch of in game dialogue :P).

(Oh, and to make things clear, by think I mean the vocabulary)

Lazzi
Muckraker
Posts: 344
Joined: 12 Apr 2008

... I speak spanglish...

Ares Tyr
Gone Gonzo
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Joined: 9 Aug 2008

I use American English, particularly a combination of cultured English language and my local southern dialect. As well I use slang often stemming from growing up with and around the Hip Hop community.

But apart from that, I really like the word 'bollocks' but have yet had the situation to use it.

I've also come into the habit of using sixties-era slang on occasion. Particularly the phrase "Right on".

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