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Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 813 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 | |
Press Junketeer Posts: 483 Joined: 28 Aug 2008 | Just because he makes this crap doesn't mean we should all buy into it. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 779 Joined: 21 May 2008 | I do think the prequel trilogy of Starwars could had been better. I seriously think it could had been better. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 545 Joined: 19 Jun 2008 | Lucas should have stopped after episode 6, return of the jedi. Sure, the concept for the newest 3 star wars movies was good, but Lucas shouldn't have anything to do with them other than some direction. Scripting and dialogue are his biggest weaknesses. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 82 Joined: 9 Nov 2007 | After taking a university course on the films of Spielberg and Lucas (yay for sleeper classes). A number of conclusions were made on why Lucas' movies suddenly turned to suck. 1. After the divorce from his wife, Lucas became much more of a recluse. Also there wasn't anyone to say "no" to Lucas' ideas or scripts without fear of getting fired. 2. Lucas had the "bright idea" in Episodes 1-3 that he'd take the best take of each actor and digitally compile them together. This is why it seems no one really reacts to one another and everyone looks like they're speaking in soliloquy, they're talking to someone who isn't there. 3. I think the popularity of the Expanded Universe, the quality of the stories and games and such as "Heir to the Force" and "The Courtship of Princess Leia" and such made expectations extremely high. Also probably explains Lucas starting to throw a fit and casting them all out as non-canon. 4. Just, overall, kinda sucked after Howard the Duck. Or if one counts collaborations, Last Crusade. I dunno, I guess sometimes the candle burns too brightly. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1444 Joined: 29 Nov 2007 | He needs to port Tie Fighter to the Wii and then he can let it go. |
Paperboy Posts: 44 Joined: 10 Sep 2008 | He should've stopped after the Episode 6. |
Beat Writer Posts: 169 Joined: 5 Aug 2008 |
I think the real problem is that Lucas was given free reign. In the originals he was never actually directing the movie, but he did direct the later ones. I think that he probably filled the staff with yes men and that he could just get away with any idea, however stupid. This is why we have the prequel trilogy that we do. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 3 Joined: 28 Aug 2008 | ...now |
BANNED Posts: 675 Joined: 6 Dec 2007 | Let's kill 'im! User was banned for: Easiest World of Warcraft Quiz EVER now live. (14 days) |
Muckraker Posts: 310 Joined: 10 May 2008 | when it comes to Star Wars and Indiana Jones, he should have stopped when the original trilogy's were done, Star Wars 1-3 sucks compared to 4-6, and Kingdom of the crystal skull (im not even gonna call it Indiana Jones) totally reaked of bad jokes and bad choices, it should have never been made, i love the original 3 movies for both series, but their later adaptations werent needed, as they only dragged their reputation through the mud |
Beat Writer Posts: 140 Joined: 9 Feb 2008 | after the movies were finished. releasing an animated in between of movies is like saying these actors need work BADLY. |
Paperboy Posts: 17 Joined: 18 Sep 2008 | Star Wars should continue for a long time. But without George Lucas. |
Beat Writer Posts: 147 Joined: 26 Jun 2008 | I must admit, the prequel was not as good as the original, but it's being bashed a little too much and maybe it's being taken a bit too seriously. I'm OK with JarJar and Hayden Christensen (he was actually good in ep. III) because even though not as good it means I have grown up with Star Wars too, which is way more awesome than watching the movies decades after, even though it is the weaker part. But I think it should stop here. The first trilogy left room for another story, and watching them in order gives a feeling that they are actually part of the same franchise, one big story unlike say Pirates of the Carribean. If he starts throwing in other "official" and "approved" stuff like the recent animated movie and TFU it is going to create potholes the size of the Death Star, with falling quality levels. Although, do keep in mind that a lot of the Star Wars things out there are not part of the official canon, the novels are written by other writers and neither are the video games (with exception for TFU), it's just other people imagining the SW universe (even if Lucas approved them). But yeah, stop now... please. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 89 Joined: 8 Jan 2008 | He said he was going to stop after Ep. 3 in an interview with Wired magazine. He said that he wanted to move on and make films like the underground avant garde and experimental films he saw while he was a student. I fail to see where CGI Christopher Lee fits into that genre. But hey, why make art if you can make money, right? |
Press Junketeer Posts: 385 Joined: 8 Apr 2008 |
Yes & No after the first Indiana Jones
The original trilogy was edited by his wife too (trust me the original cut was long, and held to much Quasi-History that no one would have liked) |
Anonymous Source Posts: 7 Joined: 16 Jul 2008 | i am fine with new games as long as they are good and the star wars books are brilliant but the new cartoon clone wars film was one step too far i wont comment on indi as i havent seen the forth film |
Paperboy Posts: 14 Joined: 28 Aug 2008 | George Lucas should have stopped 4 films ago |
Beat Writer Posts: 184 Joined: 5 Aug 2008 | With the exception of the Original Trilogy Special Edition, I think Lucas' own stuff is better than a lot of the Expanded Universe crap out there. I think Lucasfilms licenses far more than they create themselves, so what we get are hundreds of stories that all contradict each other as to what really happened. Much of the EU novels I've read overplay a lot of the things that were a part of the original Star Wars. The "different point of view" aspect was actually was a pretty small scene if you think about it, but it gets used to death in the EU novels that focus on the newer Jedi. The EU has also decided that since Luke refused to kill his own father and instead decided to redeem him, that Luke should refuse to kill anything and believe everyone really has a lovable, good person deep inside them. It gets old fast. |
Muckraker Posts: 305 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 | There are 2 universes. The fan-made expanded universe and the Lucas Universe. I love a lot of the expanded universe's novels. I feel Lucas should have left the Star Wars Universe to them, rather than make the two clone wars tv series, the Clone Wars film and now adding in an apprentice out of nowhere. Although I do admit I loved Lucass Shadows of the Empire. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 101 Joined: 7 Aug 2008 | as soon as fucking possible, every new movie he makes he disgraces the originals a little more. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 788 Joined: 2 Sep 2008 | I can't see why Star Wars can't keep going, I think everyone enjoys the Star Wars universe, but as someone said without George Lucas. |
Muckraker Posts: 248 Joined: 5 Jul 2008 | He should have stopped a long time ago |
Copy Clerk Posts: 80 Joined: 28 Jul 2008 | The answer to your question is: after "Star Wars: a New Hope" |
Muckraker Posts: 243 Joined: 7 Jun 2008 | I think he should have stopped when episode 3 was released. I thought all 6 movies were quite good except episode 1 which was good for only one or two viewings. Granted, I am only 16 and was not around when the original trilogy was first released, but I saw them on VHS before episode 1 even came out. I think both trilogies are good. I dont see what the fuss is about for the second being bad. People can argue that it was because Anikan was "emo", but do you expect a happy badass jedi turning against his friends are going to the dark side, or someone who is upset? If he was a badass like everyone wanted, that would have ruined it. |
Paperboy Posts: 17 Joined: 22 Dec 2007 | at the end of episode 3 |
Muckraker Posts: 286 Joined: 14 Feb 2008 |
YES STOP NOW FOR CHRISTS SAKE |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1168 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 | George Lucas "retired" a few years ago, shortly after Episode III came out. The closest thing to work he does anymore is approve projects and make suggestions. What I'm saying is "When should George Lucas stop?" is a pointless question, he already has. As a point of interest I hold the Star Wars movies to be ranked in greatness as VI, III, V, I, II, IV. |
Muckraker Posts: 319 Joined: 12 Aug 2008 | i think he should chill but then again i always liked star wars novels more than movies so im biased |
BANNED Posts: 62 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 | Never. Lucas makes some awesome movies. User was banned for: "Gaymers" Speak Out On Homophobia. (Permanent) |
Copy Clerk Posts: 98 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 | I think maybe the problem is that 4-6 were really good, as were Indys 1 and 3 (2 can suck by vanila-flavored testicles), which made it a bit of a tough act to follow. I thought Star Wars(es?) 1-3 were good-okay, as was indy 4. So that made them seem sucky. Plus they ruled when you were 8, 10 and 12, and when I saw Indy 4, my mind regressed to being 8 again. And I was never happier. Being a kid rules, man, don't give it up. Ever. Hell, i still paly with LEGO, toy soldiers and Playmobil. Does it make you sad? Hell no. It's just pure fun. right, I'm going to stop now, before I begin to rant. One for the blog, methinks. Anyway, check out the new Jedi Order sereis. The baddies are awesome (techophobic aleins from another galxy who grow everything, anybody?). Also, check out Legacy of the force. Awesome too. I don't usually care, as long as it is awesome. But Han shot first. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1545 Joined: 7 Sep 2008 |
That is exactly what I was thinking would have made the prequels much better... Especially the casting; if you have truly stellar actors in roles (I'm not saying people like Portman are bad, it's just she didn't suit these movies at all), then they can usually pull off even the most ridiculous lines and still make the audience believe them. Great acting also means that the audience is more emotionally invested in the characters and story, instead of things like the special effects. When you have the casting that you had in the prequels, it largely leaves the audience with a sort of feeling of shallowness, since the only really good thing about them was the effects. |
Beat Writer Posts: 215 Joined: 5 Jan 2008 | He should have quit 40 years ago. I hear all this stuff about how the prequels were awful, and the originals great. That is bullcrap. They were all bad. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1545 Joined: 7 Sep 2008 |
How was something like ESB as bad as something like TPM? Is it the universe Lucas created, or something else? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1367 Joined: 12 Sep 2007 |
I did not know that, but it explains a lot. All the actors seem to be either really horrible actors, or like they have been tricked into doing those movies and are just going through the motions. Now I know why. |
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Lucas AND Speilberg should have stopped a long long time ago. Especially Speilberg.
They've both made a living adapting other people's stuff and/or rehashing the same products over and over again.