I used to cut myself when I was stressed or depressed, but I stopped a while back...until a few days ago. I just got so depressed and sad and all of a sudden, I got the urge to cut again. I'm just wondering what people think of cutting and burning. Why do you think people do it? Do you think it's wrong? Do you know someone who has cut themselves in the past or does cut themselves? I'm not going to make this a poll because I want an intelligent discussion, not a bunch of numbers next to bars. No flaming, no hate speech, and try not to bring God into this. I don't want this to turn into a theology debate. Don't quote scripture and don't use some morals taught in some really old book filled with contradictions (you know what I'm talking about). I want your own opinions, not someone else's. And please, don't act like idiots. Also, please provide some sort of cause for you belief. What made you believe what you do. Don't just write a few words or a sentence with some simple statement.

- If you feel it's a problem for yourself please seek professional help, not a forum.

I wouldn't touch this thread with a ten-foot pole.

I don't think we can help you, nor i this the place to discuss it.

I don't see much point to it, myself. Though I find chicks with scars really hot for some reason.

If it works for you, and you don't get infected or whatever, I don't particularly see the harm. Sure, it's not "normal", but what is? And what is the value of sticking to some arbitrary definition of something that's of dubious value anyway?

reported

this will not end well. its troll bait

Eipok Kruden:
I used to cut myself when I was stressed or depressed, but I stopped a while back...until a few days ago. I just got so depressed and sad and all of a sudden, I got the urge to cut again. I'm just wondering what people think of cutting and burning. Why do you think people do it? Do you think it's wrong? Do you know someone who has cut themselves in the past or does cut themselves? I'm not going to make this a poll because I want an intelligent discussion, not a bunch of numbers next to bars. No flaming, no hate speech, and try not to bring God into this. I don't want this to turn into a theology debate. Don't quote scripture and don't use some morals taught in some really old book filled with contradictions (you know what I'm talking about). I want your own opinions, not someone else's. And please, don't act like idiots. Also, please provide some sort of cause for you belief. What made you believe what you do. Don't just write a few words or a sentence with some simple statement.

Can I just say that saying to not bring God into this then bagging the Bible a few sentances later is just going to invoke that aguement.

Also i can see this thread end badly so as it has been said.

Easykill:
I wouldn't touch this thread with a ten-foot pole.

Oh great...I can't start a topic about an issue that concerns me...Well thanks for the encouragement guys. You're really helpful, seriously. If you can't figure it out, I'm being sarcastic.

And I doubt anyone on Earth or anywhere in the entire universe can actually think that the Bible doesn't contradict itself. I'm just stating the facts by saying that. The Bible DOES contradict itself (probably because it's written by so many freaking authors who lived so far apart from each other) so I don't think it should be used as evidence to support anything.

Umm...see a therapist?

Eipok Kruden:
Oh great...I can't start a topic about an issue that concerns me...Well thanks for the encouragement guys. You're really helpful, seriously. If you can't figure it out, I'm being sarcastic.

I must have missed that sarcasm because there was none. Starting a thread like this is just asking to be banned, even if you think it's funny.

Eipok Kruden:
Oh great...I can't start a topic about an issue that concerns me...Well thanks for the encouragement guys. You're really helpful, seriously. If you can't figure it out, I'm being sarcastic.

It's not that you can't start a thread about something that concerns you, because you can. But this is not the place for topics like this. And in any case, self injury has always seemed stupid to me. I know people who have done it, but I've never seen the point. And it's not that I've never been depressed, I have. But I did the intelligent thing, I saw a psychiatrist and I dealt with my problems instead of making them worse by mutilating my own body.

you want help, ok.

Cutting and burning is at its core a coping mechanism. A bad one. people who cut and burn often dont have any other outlet for their frustrations. We here at the escapist have several outlets. we are writers/musicians/gamers/dancers/actors/ect/ect. we are not only unqualified to help you, but anything we say (yes, like this) will come off condecending because 1, we dislike those that can't cope and b, a lot of us dont have that much experience in it

I'm sorry you feel so hard done by about this, but this is, as i said, going to attract an uncooth element into our ranks, and being that we have had waaaaaaaay too many trolls for one week, i really wish to avoid seeing any more.

At least its not as bad as the last guy asking about self-injury...

In order for the world to be completely devoid of hatred, war, fighting, bias, anger, prejudice, and all things unpleasant, Humans would have to cease being Human; however, Humans are still Human and we still have trolls, but I simply can't understand why people use topics like this to cause havoc and create stress for other people. What is it that causes people to make other people miserable (main reason why people cut themselves)? Why do trolls even exist? That should be a topic.

Eipok Kruden:
In order for the world to be completely devoid of hatred, war, fighting, bias, anger, prejudice, and all things unpleasant, Humans would have to cease being Human. I simply can't understand why people use topics like this to cause havoc and create stress for other people. Why do trolls even exist? That should be a topic.

Are you derailing your own topic?

Eipok Kruden:
In order for the world to be completely devoid of hatred, war, fighting, bias, anger, prejudice, and all things unpleasant, Humans would have to cease being Human. I simply can't understand why people use topics like this to cause havoc and create stress for other people. Why do trolls even exist? That should be a topic.

That would be a better topic for the escapist, although that would most likely be a flame thread.

I'll help derail it.

Why do trolls exist?

Ask Terry Pratchett.

Because something must skulk beneath every bridge.

Eipok Kruden:
Oh great...I can't start a topic about an issue that concerns me...Well thanks for the encouragement guys. You're really helpful, seriously. If you can't figure it out, I'm being sarcastic.

And I doubt anyone on Earth or anywhere in the entire universe can actually think that the Bible doesn't contradict itself. I'm just stating the facts by saying that. The Bible DOES contradict itself (probably because it's written by so many freaking authors who lived so far apart from each other) so I don't think it should be used as evidence to support anything.

so you STILL don't want this to become a theological debate?

Instead of berating this man in his own thread, we should all simply leave.

There can be no good from posting here in any way shape or form. Hence, i propose we abandon it.

Thread defeated, 650xp to all involved.

I think its wrong because of one very simple reason, your own saftey, Because one day your gana get really annoyed or sad and your gana end up going to far and killing yourself, Ive seen it happen before. And its all not about your saftey, think about what your doing to your friends and family. Try to find another release that dosent involve hurting yourself in anyway, like my release is hitting soft objects like pillows, it dosent cause harm to anyone in anyway. Trust me listen to what I say and stop.

Ultrajoe:
Instead of berating this man in his own thread, we should all simply leave.

There can be no good from posting here in any way shape or form. Hence, i propose we abandon it.

Thread defeated, 650xp to all involved.

Only 650? :(

Well, at least it wasn't a boss fight...

To be honest with you, I don't know if your going to get at straight answer out of this thread because almost everyone here is biased. I know I am. I had a friend about a year and a half back who died of blood loss because she was cutting and she was really pushing her limits. We had known about her cutting, and had confronted her, but she had made it clear to us that she wasn't going to stop simply because we told her to. About a week after that conversation, we had a memorial service for her at our school. She had passed out due to a lack of blood, and had died shortly after.

There was a time when I cut myself but I'd rather not talk about it really. I wasn't like some emo kid, I had clinical depression and as a result of that, I started to really dislike myself. I'll leave it at that I think.

Blair Bennett:
To be honest with you, I don't know if your going to get at straight answer out of this thread because almost everyone here is biased. I know I am. I had a friend about a year and a half back who died of blood loss because she was cutting and she was really pushing her limits. We had known about her cutting, and had confronted her, but she had made it clear to us that she wasn't going to stop simply because we told her to. About a week after that conversation, we had a memorial service for her at our school. She had passed out due to a lack of blood, and had died shortly after.

Thats really sad. Im sorry for you and everyone who knew and cared for her. Thats the main reason why I hate people who cut themselves because they dont know what they are doing to the people around them.

Phoenix Arrow I hope you dont start again cos I would really feel sad if this happend to you my friend.

Blair Bennett:
To be honest with you, I don't know if your going to get at straight answer out of this thread because almost everyone here is biased. I know I am. I had a friend about a year and a half back who died of blood loss because she was cutting and she was really pushing her limits. We had known about her cutting, and had confronted her, but she had made it clear to us that she wasn't going to stop simply because we told her to. About a week after that conversation, we had a memorial service for her at our school. She had passed out due to a lack of blood, and had died shortly after.

What exactly did you say to her? Because there's a chance that you made her more depressed by trying to get her to stop.

Eipok Kruden:
Oh great...I can't start a topic about an issue that concerns me...Well thanks for the encouragement guys. You're really helpful, seriously. If you can't figure it out, I'm being sarcastic.

And I doubt anyone on Earth or anywhere in the entire universe can actually think that the Bible doesn't contradict itself. I'm just stating the facts by saying that. The Bible DOES contradict itself (probably because it's written by so many freaking authors who lived so far apart from each other) so I don't think it should be used as evidence to support anything.

Okay, in all seriousness, if you're looking for emotional support and encouragement to help you work your way through problems, a gaming culture forum is not the place to do it. If you're looking to justify your hate of the world, this action was the self fulfilling sort. You don't read as unintelligent so you knew before you made that post it would most likely end up flameish, and you are feeding the fire.

There are plenty of support groups and counselors out there that can provide answers and support if you do in fact desire this. There is anti-depressants for people who have to fight clinical conditions that make it hard to feel happy. And most of these options are non-religious (all though a lot of people get the kind of stuff that keeps depression at bay from their faith, so maybe you shouldn't judge so much, from my perspective some guy that posts about cutting himself up isn't someone I would look to for greater philosophical theories of the world)

Frankly I doubt you are as far gone as you melodramatically play at for us. It is so trendy for kids nowadays to play at being moody and say they cut themselves, and will even go so far as to scratch themselves a little to prove the point. Five years ago it was goth kids, ten years ago it was the grunge crowd, twenty years ago it was the punks, thirty years ago it was the stoners, 40 years ago it was the hippies, 50 years ago it was the "rebels without a cause". And so on and so on.

You Emo lot are nothing special and ten years from now the exact same thing will be called something else and they'll repklace this "cut myself" crap with turning clothes inside out or drinking bleach or something.

and as for the bible contradicting itself, that really depends on the bible you read (I am assuming the old / new testament is what you're thinking of) in which case it depends on how you choose to interpret it. The core message of the Bible is that the world and life are precious and beautiful and should be appreciated and loved. That's a pretty nice message in my opinion, you know, because the world is a precious and beautiful place and even the hardships of it add to the texture and brilliance of existence, again in my opinion.

Guess who doesn't get so depressed he feels he needs to mutilate himself.

And you know, thinking flowers are pretty and liking dates with girls and being happy because of them has nothing to do with religion at all. It's easy to be happy when you do it for a while, and it's easy to be depressed when you do that for a while to.

Speaking as someone who has been suicidally depressed in the past, even I think cutting is ridiculous.
Isn't the whole "emo" thing that life is pain? Why the hell would you want to add more pain?!
It all seems like a pathetic cry for attention. Just talk to a counselor; worked wonders for me.

The Sorrow:
Speaking as someone who has been suicidally depressed in the past, even I think cutting is ridiculous.
Isn't the whole "emo" thing that life is pain? Why the hell would you want to add more pain?!
It all seems like a pathetic cry for attention. Just talk to a counselor; worked wonders for me.

It's to deal with emotional pain by creating physical pain and after a while, it doesn't hurt. It actually feels good. That's why a lot of people do it, not because they hate themselves, but because they want to relieve the emotional pain. And it doesn't really hurt that much, it usually just stings.

yea it may feel good after a while but u will cause scars on your skin and every time you look at them u r gana be reminded of that time and get depressed again.

If you want physical pain, just punch yourself in the face. Much less dangerous.

Oh, I almost forgot: my sister dealt with issues with our mother by cutting; if I had known, I would have gotten her help immediately. Everytime I see those scars, it hurts me. Just don't do it.

The Sorrow:
If you want physical pain, just punch yourself in the face. Much less dangerous.

or even better puch pillows like me.

...Did...Did an Emo person just boot up a computer, go on to the Escapist website, make a topic about Self Mutilation, ask for it not to be a Theology debate, yet still bring up Theology, randomly inject a derailing post, admit to being Emo, refuse to see a therapist, and logically explain the reason that he cuts....?

I blame Zero Punctuation.

Aries_Split:
...Did...Did an Emo person just boot up a computer, go on to the Escapist website, make a topic about Self Mutilation, ask for it not to be a Theology debate, yet still bring up Theology, randomly inject a derailing post, admit to being Emo, refuse to see a therapist, and logically explain the reason that he cuts....?

I blame Zero Punctuation.

dont u dare blame ben, i love his vids and i never cut myself.