At these man-overs, many things can happen. It all depends on how many people are there. With a large group, we tend to go streaking. With a small group, about 3-4 people or so, we put a Super Smash Bros. game in, choose one character each, and pit all of them against each other. we set them all as level nine computers and just watch the battle. If your character loses, you take off a piece of clothing. Strip Smash! Usually, a man-over leads to everyone (all guys) getting naked then getting dressed again and falling asleep to a movie.

Wow. Just... Wow. To the casual observer, that does sound fairly gay. And that has nothing to do with homophobia. I'm bi, and I think that it sounds like the setup of a porn movie. All it's lacking is the development of a "forfeit" system for the people who don't have any more clothes to bet, and you're all set.

But yeah, most people are still pretty insecure. If you're a Kinsey 0, then you should just "nothing" other men. If you're uncomfortable with saying another guy is attractive, you're probably not that comfortable with the idea of being gay. People are boring.

Break:

At these man-overs, many things can happen. It all depends on how many people are there. With a large group, we tend to go streaking. With a small group, about 3-4 people or so, we put a Super Smash Bros. game in, choose one character each, and pit all of them against each other. we set them all as level nine computers and just watch the battle. If your character loses, you take off a piece of clothing. Strip Smash! Usually, a man-over leads to everyone (all guys) getting naked then getting dressed again and falling asleep to a movie.

Wow. Just... Wow. To the casual observer, that does sound fairly gay. And that has nothing to do with homophobia. I'm bi, and I think that it sounds like the setup of a porn movie. All it's lacking is the development of a "forfeit" system for the people who don't have any more clothes to bet, and you're all set.

But yeah, most people are still pretty insecure. If you're a Kinsey 0, then you should should "nothing" other guys. If you're uncomfortable with saying another guy is attractive, you're probably not that comfortable with the idea of being gay. People are boring.

And you know what? People who are not strictly heterosexual are pretty damn cool. None of that your gay every other second.(Which I dread using gay in situations where it can be used.) Lesbian girls=Ton of fun(For the most part). Heterosexual girls=Eh, Some can be quite a bit of fun others...

I don't think not wanting to be around a bunch of nude men and their "peni" make anybody insecure, or homophobic. It has a lot to do with how you're raised. Myself, if some dude was waving his junk at me, I'd kill him. For me, it's just something you don't do, unless you play for that team, than by all means, hit it out of the park.

If it's ok to be blatantly gay, I guess it's just as ok to be blatantly not-gay. Or something.

Stripping with just guys seems pretty gay, but why can't guys admire other guys without being gay? We women do it all the time (with girls I meant :P).

I hate homophobes as well. -_-

snowplow:
This thread is pretty gay, no offense.

Sleepover where a bunch of guys get together and strip? Did you conveniently leave out the part where you guys fondle each other?

As if that's not enough, you call guys attractive? To who? You?

Personally, I don't get nude in front of guys. If one were to do it in front of me, I think I'd kill him. I have absolutely no desire to see penises. I cannot judge the "attractiveness" of a man. Its just not possible for me.

Also in regards to the whole urinal thing, you're really inconsiderate if you purposely piss next to someone if other urinals are free. You're basically an asshole. Give people their space you asshole, nobody cares if you're gay, bi, "comfortable with your sexuality" or whatever. People like to have room. Just because you like to be cramped together with several men doesn't mean everyone else does.

So, IMO, you aren't confident that you are straight. Is it that you don't want to see male genitalia because you are afraid you may actually be homosexual?

Gxas:

snowplow:
This thread is pretty gay, no offense.

Sleepover where a bunch of guys get together and strip? Did you conveniently leave out the part where you guys fondle each other?

As if that's not enough, you call guys attractive? To who? You?

Personally, I don't get nude in front of guys. If one were to do it in front of me, I think I'd kill him. I have absolutely no desire to see penises. I cannot judge the "attractiveness" of a man. Its just not possible for me.

Also in regards to the whole urinal thing, you're really inconsiderate if you purposely piss next to someone if other urinals are free. You're basically an asshole. Give people their space you asshole, nobody cares if you're gay, bi, "comfortable with your sexuality" or whatever. People like to have room. Just because you like to be cramped together with several men doesn't mean everyone else does.

So, IMO, you aren't confident that you are straight. Is it that you don't want to see male genitalia because you are afraid you may actually be homosexual?

Using your logic I don't want to watch twogirls1cup because I might be a Coprophagiac and be obsessed with vomit.

See how hilariously misguided that is? "You don't like it, so that means you secretly like it"

Please explain to me how that makes any logical sense.

SecretTacoNinja:
Stripping with just guys seems pretty gay, but why can't guys admire other guys without being gay? We women do it all the time (with girls I meant :P).

Girls are attractive, guys aren't.

As for the topic; I am fully confident that I am not gay, but I can't help feeling uncomfortable around gay guys. Unreasonable, I know, but I can't help it. It doesn't help that I hated all the gay people I've met in real life before I knew they were gay.

snowplow:

Using your logic I don't want to watch twogirls1cup because I might be a Coprophagiac and be obsessed with vomit.

See how hilariously misguided that is? "You don't like it, so that means you secretly like it"

Please explain to me how that makes any logical sense.

A valid point. One that I have no answer to. You have trapped me and won this fight lol. Honestly, I don't really know what I was thinking when I posted this topic. I am not the best at putting what I am thinking into words and nothing ever comes out right. I tried, and failed. I am glad that I got to hear some opinions on the topic.

I pretty much accepted the label of bisexuality because, though I'd never ever have sex with a guy (again) I'm pretty comfortable with seeing a guy and remarking - usually to either female friends or actually gay guys - that the guy is attractive or even hot in much the same way I'd apply the label to a girl. I wouldn't ever put it on the line that I'd do anything with said attractive guy - unless ridiculous amounts of alcohol was involved - but I think the fact I can think along those lines and determine a physical attraction on somebody of the same sex puts me a little on the outside track of heterosexuality.

Also, to clarify, this is not like looking at somebody and thinking "I could see why girls would want to hook up with them" this is "that there is a hot guy".

My father is gay so from a fairly young age I got used to being around gay and lesbian people and interacting with them. Maybe that led to my own thoughts about my sexuality and how I express it, but I'm wholly 100% comfortable with it, which is a lot more than maybe 80% of people I know. Nothing is worse than being unsure and overcompensating, or even beating your head against the wall trying to force a decision.

But naked man-overs sound even more homoerotic than the Top Gun volleyball scene. Fo' reals.

Edit : It is hard to talk about other homosexual people without feeling like you are applying some horrible label to them.

maxusy3k:
It is hard to talk about other homosexual people without feeling like you are applying some horrible label to them.

Agreed I tried to sound as nice as possible throughout this entire thread.

Gxas:
Let me start this thread off by saying that I have been mistaken to be homosexual countless times in my life, in fact, in my freshman year of highschool half of the senior class thought I was. There was no evidence to back this up or anything. I am straight but I am comfortable with my sexuality.

What is with people thinking that, just because I openly say that a guy is attractive I am gay? The whole reason that I am able to do this is because I have no niggling little doubt in my mind about whether I am, indeed, heterosexual. This is the problem with society nowadays. Man-law stems from this. What is wrong with peeing next to another man? If I have to go and the urinal next to you is the only one open, you bet I'm going to take it. I fee like the reason that man-law was started was because guys were insecure about their sexuality and didn't want to see another man in case they might be gay.

Homophobia seems to stem from this too. When I get together with my friend at his house, we have, what is referred to by the rest of my friends as (mainly girls), a man-over (get it? sleep-over : man-over). At these man-overs, many things can happen. It all depends on how many people are there. With a large group, we tend to go streaking. With a small group, about 3-4 people or so, we put a Super Smash Bros. game in, choose one character each, and pit all of them against each other. we set them all as level nine computers and just watch the battle. If your character loses, you take off a piece of clothing. Strip Smash! Usually, a man-over leads to everyone (all guys) getting naked then getting dressed again and falling asleep to a movie. When people hear about this stuff, they immediately take us for gay, even some close friends do this. The reason we can all do this is because all of the guys at the man-over have no doubt that they aren't heterosexual.

What are your opinions on this? Am I completely homosexual for getting naked with guys or is everyone else just extremely nervous that they might actually like men?

Man-law, AKA restroom etiquette

LMFAO!! How did you and everyone else so far miss this typo?

On a more serious note. It is entirely possible to be completely comfortable with your sexuality and still not want to see another guy's penis.

man, woman. who cares aslong as they are of legal age.

It's 16 for any kind of sex be it gay or straight over here in England.
That admittedly sounded a bit like an advertisement.

Ps I hear Japan is a bit... relaxed on the age limit... and Mexico
I'll try not to make any kind of racist jokes, so I shall stop talking about other countries.

I'm pretty sure its all cool for sexuality nowadays.
When I told all my friends I'm bisexual they didn't really care. And then I thought, none of my straight friends have told me that they are straight. So maybe thats a bit ambiguous.

Perhaps nowadays that lots of people are able to live the way they want, that the considered normal has to also say that its how they are.

My behaviour isn't stereotypically gay, I'm just incredibly laid back. Theres no need to be angry or anything, not going to change stuff.

I think thats most questions and comments replied and answered.

And man-law still applies to me, I dont go in a urinal next to someone else.

But thats more of a "why would I want to stand next to someone urinating?" type of thing.

Enjoy that one. Soak it in, let it sink. And then ignore and forget.

Psychedeliasmith:

snowplow:
Personally, I don't get nude in front of guys. If one were to do it in front of me, I think I'd kill him.

Wow, how threatening do you find penises then?

Very. I agree with snowplow.

I think the hardest part of coming to terms with your sexuality is just that.

I was immeasurably happier the day I told myself I was gay.

My sexuality has matured since then, and I like to think of myself as Gender blind. I don't care what the person I've fallen in love withs gender is, I focus more on "Do I love them? Are they hot?".

For instance, on my top five sexy people list, it goes like this.

1.Orlando Bloom
2.Adrianna Lima
3.Kevin Bacon
4.Justin Pierre
5.Jessica Alba

Brad Pitt should totally be on that list, yo.

Aries_Split:
I think the hardest part of coming to terms with your sexuality is just that.

I was immeasurably happier the day I told myself I was gay.

My sexuality has matured since then, and I like to think of myself as Gender blind. I don't care what the person I've fallen in love withs gender is, I focus more on "Do I love them? Are they hot?".

For instance, on my top five sexy people list, it goes like this.

1.Orlando Bloom
2.Adrianna Lima
3.Kevin Bacon
4.Justin Pierre
5.Jessica Alba

That's very interesting. It makes a change from the "Gay fairy" and "straight chauvanist" stereotypes. See I couldn't do what you've just said. I need certainty in that area really.

curlycrouton:

Aries_Split:
I think the hardest part of coming to terms with your sexuality is just that.

I was immeasurably happier the day I told myself I was gay.

My sexuality has matured since then, and I like to think of myself as Gender blind. I don't care what the person I've fallen in love withs gender is, I focus more on "Do I love them? Are they hot?".

For instance, on my top five sexy people list, it goes like this.

1.Orlando Bloom
2.Adrianna Lima
3.Kevin Bacon
4.Justin Pierre
5.Jessica Alba

That's very interesting. It makes a change from the "Gay fairy" and "straight chauvanist" stereotypes. See I couldn't do what you've just said. I need certainty in that area really.

Yeah, to be honest, those stereotypes are just propaganda. I've never met a true fairy. Ever.

Aries_Split:
I've never met a true fairy. Ever.

I've met a few, and the power mince is hilarious to watch.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Aries_Split:
I've never met a true fairy. Ever.

I've met a few, and the power mince is hilarious to watch.

Power...Mince?

You know what Root? I don't EVEN want to know.

Aries_Split:

The_root_of_all_evil:

Aries_Split:
I've never met a true fairy. Ever.

I've met a few, and the power mince is hilarious to watch.

Power...Mince?

You know what Root? I don't EVEN want to know.

Well, you know how people mince about...now imagine that with a Power-walk. :)

KSarty:

Gxas:
SNIP
The reason we can all do this is because all of the guys at the man-over have no doubt that they aren't heterosexual.

What are your opinions on this? Am I completely homosexual for getting naked with guys or is everyone else just extremely nervous that they might actually like men?

Man-law, AKA restroom etiquette

LMFAO!! How did you and everyone else so far miss this typo?

On a more serious note. It is entirely possible to be completely comfortable with your sexuality and still not want to see another guy's penis.

Wait a minute - that was a typo?

The_root_of_all_evil:

Aries_Split:

The_root_of_all_evil:

Aries_Split:
I've never met a true fairy. Ever.

I've met a few, and the power mince is hilarious to watch.

Power...Mince?

You know what Root? I don't EVEN want to know.

Well, you know how people mince about...now imagine that with a Power-walk. :)

im gay, and even i would jump to the conclusion that you're gay for those kinds of activities.. im not judging you, that is just what i would think if someone told me they like to play strip games with their male friends.

it also depends on where you come from in the world... like, since europeans tend to be more relaxed with sexual things (from my viewpoint at least), id find it easier to believe a straight guy doing such things with his friends if he were from england or something.

the calling guys attractive thing, i thought people were past that already.. i go to an all-guys' school and the straight guys are able to say what guys are attractive and such.. like what guys they'd go gay for and stuff. i dont understand the difference between girls saying other girls are hot and guys doing the same.

anyways, it really doesnt matter to me what people enjoy doing with friends; im pretty much the most open minded person there is..

Yeah, these man-overs of yours have some rather gay overtones. Or we could call it a relaxed celebration of the absence of repression and denial. The question as I see it is, does it matter? Seems like you're having a lot of fun. Is there anything else to consider?

I think the biggest problem is that we make the gay/straight distinction too black and white. Picture a Bell Curve. Now imagine that the people on the far left minority are the flamboyant narcissists with lisps. Now imagine that the far right are the beer-bellied sit-com chauvinist pigs that we think of when we read "man-law". What's left is the vast majority of people being somewhere in between, without much distinction between gay/bi/straight.

People fall in love, get crushes, etc. and the subconscious doesn't make a distinction. People don't accept that the love you feel for a life-long friend is the same kind of love you feel with a sexual partner, without the hormonal passion. I was just as sad the day my best friend Tony moved away as I was when I broke up with my long-term girlfriend/Fiancee.

On a side note, I agree that the whole nakedness thing is more exhibitionism than anything else, unless there is an unspoken "no girls allowed" rule; then there might be some latent bisexual tendencies.

However, this just serves to drive my point home. the closer you are to the middle of that bell curve, the more comfortable you are with the blurring of that imaginary line between gay/straight.

In my humble opinion, people are just people. It's really quite sad that we allow ourselves to be divided so much in this "enlightened" age, and conquered that much more easily because we're told we're supposed to be uncomfortable around anyone who isn't in line with our race/religion/financial standing etc.

Gxas:
What is with people thinking that, just because I openly say that a guy is attractive I am gay?

Probably because the term "attractive" is implying a physical impulse or desire towards somebody else. Maybe you mean, "That guy seems like women would find him attractive." or maybe, "Dang, John dresses well, are those new pants?"

I'm sure most people think you are gay for naive homophobic stereotypical reasons (don't know, never met you) but this muddling of semantics doesn't help your case. Not that you should care, I doubt you'd enjoy hanging out with juvenile homophobes anyways.

Using your logic I don't want to watch twogirls1cup because I might be a Coprophagiac and be obsessed with vomit.

See how hilariously misguided that is? "You don't like it, so that means you secretly like it"

Please explain to me how that makes any logical sense.

Because it's "you don't like it, because you don't want to like it". Which could be a decent reason to not watch 2girls1cup, even though it's more the fact that most people find poop itself to be disgusting. There's less force behind "naked men are disgusting", because if you actually thought that, then you would find it difficult to look down in the shower.

I know two "true fairies". I don't know if they're gay, but they're serious fairies. They're flamboyant, they have the voice, they only really hang around with girls... All of those cliches fit them. It's insane.

Archemetis:

To make it clear, i typically only kiss other men when i'm drunk and even then it's for fun.
and i'm not making that clear out of shame, everyone, even my own parents know that i do this.

i think you should go read/listen to some Dan Savage, there are a ton of "straight" guys that only do "gay" things when they are drunk but they are "totally straight"

as for the op, yeah those man-overs seem rather gay. i mean why do you feel the need to get naked just to "prove how straight you are"? honestly wouldn't you prove that by just ummm i don't know staying clothed?

just an idea is all and i could be totally wrong but you never know

honestly i could have way more with this but i don't really want to raise the ire of the mods. although there's a great skit by Joe Rogan about proving how not gay you are

as for me, i'm straight, tho i have no issue about commenting if a guy is attractive or not and i have no real desire to get naked around other men. as for why i'm not gay, i will say it's for the exact same reasons Kevin Smith said in An Evening with Kevin Smith

Ivoryagent:
I don't really see