Vampires. Zombies are mindless husks which only want to infect others. Vampires are smart, strong, fast (not as fast as were-wolves though), and are very smart. Zombies are unorganised and die off when they run out of food (lasting much longer than when they were humans however), while vampires can organise, can survive in stasis when a food supply is unavailable and can survive on pig/sheep blood. Also, if it's an eastern european vampire they can most likely fly/transform into a flying creature.
In the end neither zombies nor vampires would succeed, instead it would be the ever increasing zombie vampires.
Janus Vesta: Vampires. Zombies are mindless husks which only want to infect others. Vampires are smart, strong, fast (not as fast as were-wolves though), and are very smart. Zombies are unorganised and die off when they run out of food (lasting much longer than when they were humans however), while vampires can organise, can survive in stasis when a food supply is unavailable and can survive on pig/sheep blood. Also, if it's an eastern european vampire they can most likely fly/transform into a flying creature.
In the end neither zombies nor vampires would succeed, instead it would be the ever increasing zombie vampires.
How would a zombie vampire work? A zombie bitten by a vampire? The other way round?
Agreed on the vamps winning, though... I think that the vampires could be as fast as werewolves, though. You know how vampires have that cool habit of being in one place, then instantaneously reappearing right behind you or whatnot? I'd like to see a werewolf do that.
I think we need a definition of exactly what types of vampires and what types of zombies we'd have combating each other though. Then we can have some real fun.
What is your definition of survive? Like.. Kill all the zombies? I don't know how many vampires are, but its common sense that zombies will outnumber vampires by a dramatic amount.
I don't know how many vampires are, but its common sense that zombies will outnumber vampires by a dramatic amount.
The true strategist recognises that numbers are not everything. Zombies are a blunt tool, a hammer that is powerful but rarely hits the pressure spot required to cripple a foe. Vampires are smart, cunning and quick, more like an assassin's dagger. Both have their merits, but I still believe vampires would come out on top.
We are talking about out-numbering by the hundred-millions. Who do you think could survive more casualties? Zombies are always underestimated, and that could very well be yours and the Vampire's downfall. And..Vampires can not eat dead blood. If a vampire consumes a zombie's blood, it'll die.
Janus Vesta: Vampires. Zombies are mindless husks which only want to infect others. Vampires are smart, strong, fast (not as fast as were-wolves though), and are very smart. Zombies are unorganised and die off when they run out of food (lasting much longer than when they were humans however), while vampires can organise, can survive in stasis when a food supply is unavailable and can survive on pig/sheep blood. Also, if it's an eastern european vampire they can most likely fly/transform into a flying creature.
In the end neither zombies nor vampires would succeed, instead it would be the ever increasing zombie vampires.
How would a zombie vampire work? A zombie bitten by a vampire? The other way round?
Agreed on the vamps winning, though... I think that the vampires could be as fast as werewolves, though. You know how vampires have that cool habit of being in one place, then instantaneously reappearing right behind you or whatnot? I'd like to see a werewolf do that.
I think we need a definition of exactly what types of vampires and what types of zombies we'd have combating each other though. Then we can have some real fun.
Vampires max speed is constant. The fastest vampire won't get faster, werewolves speed increases with the moon light. No moon and they're slower than vampires, a full moon and they're speed scares the shit out of vampires. But vampires can get werewolves while they're in human form.
And vampires can transform at will and trick a werewolf.
Back to zombies. Vampires would probably force the surviving humans to help them by supplying them with blood and the vamps would keep the humans alive.
Blackrose11: We are talking about out-numbering by the hundred-millions. Who do you think could survive more casualties? Zombies are always underestimated, and that could very well be yours and the Vampire's downfall. And..Vampires can not eat dead blood. If a vampire consumes a zombie's blood, it'll die.
We've already made this point, either: Corral humans and live off them bit by bit, keeping them safe from the zombies as a food source or drink animal blood or don't drink blood at all and take a leaf out of Pratchett's Black Ribboners.
Also, zombie senses aren't that adept. They'll eventually starve, vampires could easily win a war of atrition by living in a remote area with little to no other settlements. Zombies wouldn't find them there and they'd be free to 'live' until the zombies have all died out. Perhaps going to Alaska a la Resident Evil film 3?
Blackrose11: We are talking about out-numbering by the hundred-millions. Who do you think could survive more casualties? Zombies are always underestimated, and that could very well be yours and the Vampire's downfall. And..Vampires can not eat dead blood. If a vampire consumes a zombie's blood, it'll die.
But vampires can survive on pig and sheep blood, and if they are forced the blood of other mammals.
Also, if you hurt a zombie he's hurt for good. Hurt a vampire and he'll regenerate the next time he feeds.
Fools, Vampires can become zombies (they would lose there power but it can happen) zombies cannot become vampires, I've already adressed this. I dont care how much smarter a vampire is they simply cannot over come the numbers with a small food suply. zombies don't get hurt at all, they feel no pain and will keep coming, a vampire needs to sleep for 12 hours because they're layabouts and scallywags. zombies wouldn't know to attack the heart, this is true but they will rip them apart and eventually they'll eat a vapires heart thus killing it. a vampire may be stronger and smarter but will never be able to match the dedication of zombies. As for flying, don't even play, this is a realistic discussion. vampires can't wait it out either as there would be so few survivors and would need to feed, a zombies isn't motivated by it's hunger and in fact doesn't ever need to feed, they can last untill they decompose so far that they have no muscle left (3-5 years) whereas if a vampire doesn't eat for a week they go insane and kill themselves or what ever they do.
also the crabs was intended only to get iron ninja in, i didn't expect anyone to vote for it but him
(ZHU) Michael: Fools, Vampires can become zombies (they would lose there power but it can happen) zombies cannot become vampires, I've already adressed this. I dont care how much smarter a vampire is they simply cannot over come the numbers with a small food suply. zombies don't get hurt at all, they feel no pain and will keep coming, a vampire needs to sleep for 12 hours because they're layabouts and scallywags. zombies wouldn't know to attack the heart, this is true but they will rip them apart and eventually they'll eat a vapires heart thus killing it. a vampire may be stronger and smarter but will never be able to match the dedication of zombies. As for flying, don't even play, this is a realistic discussion. vampires can't wait it out either as there would be so few survivors and would need to feed, a zombies isn't motivated by it's hunger and in fact doesn't ever need to feed, they can last untill they decompose so far that they have no muscle left (3-5 years) whereas if a vampire doesn't eat for a week they go insane and kill themselves or what ever they do.
also the crabs was intended only to get iron inja in, i didn't expect anyone to vote for it but him
You didn't address my idea for corralling any human survivors and keeping them in a secure remote location as a food source or the idea of using other mammal blood. It may be less effective than human, but it's better than nothing.
(ZHU) Michael: Fools, Vampires can become zombies (they would lose there power but it can happen) zombies cannot become vampires, I've already adressed this. I dont care how much smarter a vampire is they simply cannot over come the numbers with a small food suply. zombies don't get hurt at all, they feel no pain and will keep coming, a vampire needs to sleep for 12 hours because they're layabouts and scallywags. zombies wouldn't know to attack the heart, this is true but they will rip them apart and eventually they'll eat a vapires heart thus killing it. a vampire may be stronger and smarter but will never be able to match the dedication of zombies. As for flying, don't even play, this is a realistic discussion. vampires can't wait it out either as there would be so few survivors and would need to feed, a zombies isn't motivated by it's hunger and in fact doesn't ever need to feed, they can last untill they decompose so far that they have no muscle left (3-5 years) whereas if a vampire doesn't eat for a week they go insane and kill themselves or what ever they do.
also the crabs was intended only to get iron ninja in, i didn't expect anyone to vote for it but him
Vampires don't need to sleep. They do it to ensure they don't come into contact with sunlight. All a vampire has to do is is cover his whole body and he can survive.
needausername: Zombies could survive without blood. And eat the vampires when they got weak.
Although if a vampire bit a zombie, would you get a vampire/zombie hybrid? A zompire or a vambie? They would kickass.
Yea, that is all we'd need. Some limping, moaning, bloodsucking being that dies when sunlight hits it running around sucking everything dry before devouring its brains. Or a bat that just kinda flies into everything. Or worse, a fog that looks like the San Francisco skyline on a good day.
You didn't address my idea for corralling any human survivors and keeping them in a secure remote location as a food source or the idea of using other mammal blood. It may be less effective than human, but it's better than nothing.
don't make me laugh you snivelling putz, by the time the vampires realised that there was an epidemic they wouldn't have time to set up a system that complex, how will they ration out the blood? or harvest it? or keep people from killing themselves? vampires are notoriously shitty at spread sheets, they can't organize that fast
You didn't address my idea for corralling any human survivors and keeping them in a secure remote location as a food source or the idea of using other mammal blood. It may be less effective than human, but it's better than nothing.
don't make me laugh you snivelling putz, by the time the vampires realised that there was an epidemic they wouldn't have time to set up a system that complex, how will they ration out the blood? or harvest it? or keep people from killing themselves? vampires are notoriously shitty at spread sheets, they can't organize that fast
It's simple. They pull an Arnie. The whole "Come with me if you want to live" is probably slightly more convincing with zombies knocking on their door. They take on a symbiotic relationship with uninfected humans rather than a parasitic one. You're underestimating the intelligence of vampires.
You didn't address my idea for corralling any human survivors and keeping them in a secure remote location as a food source or the idea of using other mammal blood. It may be less effective than human, but it's better than nothing.
don't make me laugh you snivelling putz, by the time the vampires realised that there was an epidemic they wouldn't have time to set up a system that complex, how will they ration out the blood? or harvest it? or keep people from killing themselves? vampires are notoriously shitty at spread sheets, they can't organize that fast
Zombie infestations spread at night. Vampires are the masters of the night. The vampires would be the first to know what's happening.
Vampires don't need to sleep. They do it to ensure they don't come into contact with sunlight. All a vampire has to do is is cover his whole body and he can survive.
than howcome in everywork ever when you open the coffin they can't be awaken no matter how loudly you trudge about untill you stab them in the heart and then they're all "Blah, I suck almost as bad as a mummy and now i'm dead"? do you know how hard it would be to compleately keep all the sun rays off your body, no sunscreen or tent can cover you from them, sun penitrates very well, and how come they aren't affected by the moon? it's the reflections of the sun so it should hurt them also. There I've logically proved that if there are vampires they can move outdoors at anytime ever or they'll die.
Vampires don't need to sleep. They do it to ensure they don't come into contact with sunlight. All a vampire has to do is is cover his whole body and he can survive.
than howcome in everywork ever when you open the coffin they can't be awaken no matter how loudly you trudge about untill you sab them in the heart and then they're all "Blah, I suck almost as bad as a mummy and now i'm dead"? do you know how hard it would be to compleately keep all the sun rays off your body, no sunscreen or tent can cover you from them, sun penitrates very well, and how come they aren't affected by the moon? it's the reflections of the sun so it should hurt them also. There I've logically proved that if there are vampires they can move outdoors at anytime ever or they'll die.
Logically a zombie shouldn't be able to move at all. The lack of digestive systems means that the brains/flesh it eats would just roll out of its rotten stomach and it'd soon run out of energy and collapse. nevermind that as soon as its leg muscles have rotted slightly it'd become unable to walk. Don't even try pulling logic into this.
Logically a zombie shouldn't be able to move at all. The lack of digestive systems means that the brains/flesh it eats would just roll out of its rotten stomach and it'd soon run out of energy and collapse. nevermind that as soon as its leg muscles have rotted slightly it'd become unable to walk. Don't even try pulling logic into this.
Zombies do not suffer from anything like bleeding to death. They do not have to eat, sleep, or breathe. Zombie infections spread anytime. Vampires are temporarily stopped from wounds. Zombies keep going at you, no matter the wound. Unless you hit the brain. Not the head, kill the brain.
Zombies do not need energy. The consumption is merely a effect of psychosis. It only eats out of habit. The eaten flesh rolls out of its stomach, it'll keep going. Look up Max Brooks, he is a investigator on zombies. :D
Vampires don't need to sleep. They do it to ensure they don't come into contact with sunlight. All a vampire has to do is is cover his whole body and he can survive.
than howcome in everywork ever when you open the coffin they can't be awaken no matter how loudly you trudge about untill you stab them in the heart and then they're all "Blah, I suck almost as bad as a mummy and now i'm dead"? do you know how hard it would be to compleately keep all the sun rays off your body, no sunscreen or tent can cover you from them, sun penitrates very well, and how come they aren't affected by the moon? it's the reflections of the sun so it should hurt them also. There I've logically proved that if there are vampires they can move outdoors at anytime ever or they'll die.
It's not sunlight, it's UV rays. They are lethal to vampires but in thick clothes or at night the UV rays which reach the vampire are not lethal, just painful. And you can't wake a vampire because they are heavy sleepers.
Zombies zombie. They zombie around looking for people to kill. It's a verb now.