unless you destroy the brain it will keep going, it can't do much but in the heat of battle would you really watch to make sure you aren't near any heads or would you focus on the undead killing machine coming at you?
Depends on the sort of zombies...Zuvembies would keep coming unless they have no means of traction; and the traditional zombie fighting tool is a shotgun. Chula/Vashta Nerada Zombies would still keep coming sans brain.
If we're talking classic Stoker/Romero; Zombies would win because they have the advantage of daylight; and you can't embrace a dead body but you can zombify a living corpse.
You don't know your vampires then. They feed on human blood as it is te best for them and tastes the best. They drink other blood when no humans are available or they have stopped drinking human blood.
You've never heard of vampires feeding on rats? Man, you've missed out! Vampires most commonly drink the blood of rats when there is no human source available (you know, like with Anne Rice's vampires....*shudder*......)
I'm not sure about other animals though.....
how much sustanance can you really derive from the blood of rats, nothing,, not near enough to gain anything i'd reckon. also I guess i don't know that much about vampires if that is the case but i have seen quite a bit and i've yet to see that.
A zombie can't do much when it's torso is removed.
unless you destroy the brain it will keep going, it can't do much but in the heat of battle would you really watch to make sure you aren't near any heads or would you focus on the undead killing machine coming at you?
Yes a decapitated zombie head is so scary. Zombies don't stand a chance as they aren't otherworldly. Vampires can use otherworldly powers (not magic)
You don't know your vampires then. They feed on human blood as it is te best for them and tastes the best. They drink other blood when no humans are available or they have stopped drinking human blood.
You've never heard of vampires feeding on rats? Man, you've missed out! Vampires most commonly drink the blood of rats when there is no human source available (you know, like with Anne Rice's vampires....*shudder*......)
I'm not sure about other animals though.....
how much sustanance can you really derive from the blood of rats, nothing,, not near enough to gain anything i'd reckon. also I guess i don't know that much about vampires if that is the case but i have seen quite a bit and i've yet to see that.
Vampires capture rats easily using shadows. Vampires have limited control over the shadows. And it's not only rats. Birds, pigs, sheep, most mammals really.
Yes a decapitated zombie head is so scary. Zombies don't stand a chance as they aren't otherworldly. Vampires can use otherworldly powers (not magic)
lets try to keep this simple as i could talk about all the zombies hat have super strenth and speed etc. but i dont because i wanna keep this to basic zombies v.s basic vampires
Yes a decapitated zombie head is so scary. Zombies don't stand a chance as they aren't otherworldly. Vampires can use otherworldly powers (not magic)
lets try to keep this simple as i could talk about all the zombies hat have super strenth and speed etc. but i dont because i wanna keep this to basic zombies v.s basic vampires
crabs because A) vampires need blood to survive which zombies do not have B)zombies will evencually eat themselves to death or rot over a million years leaving crabs the victor
but they dont have magical powers or feed of rats or jump insane heights and have insane speed
the basics of vampies is that they ARE fast, strong and feed on mammals. I never said magic. I said otherworldly powers, nothing to do with magic. Otherworldly powers use energ from the netherworld to alter aspects of this one.
the basics of vampies is that they ARE fast, strong and feed on mammals. I never said magic. I said otherworldly powers, nothing to do with magic. Otherworldly powers use energ from the netherworld to alter aspects of this one.
yeah but not to the levels you've claimed, as for netherworld powers, we're talking about living in the real world and here there is no god or satan or netherworld so they cannot exist. anything that can jump that high would be crushed on landing at wouldn't be able to just regenerate unless they feed but how would they feed with nothing around to feed off of and you cant move at super speed without an amount of energy thats impossible to contain in the human body
the basics of vampies is that they ARE fast, strong and feed on mammals. I never said magic. I said otherworldly powers, nothing to do with magic. Otherworldly powers use energ from the netherworld to alter aspects of this one.
yeah but not to the levels you've claimed, as for netherworld powers, we're talking about living in the real world and here there is no god or satan or netherworld so they cannot exist. anything that can jump that high would be crushed on landing at wouldn't be able to just regenerate unless they feed but how would they feed with nothing around to feed off of
God and satan have nothing to do with the netherworld. The nether world is a parallel world which can transfere energy to and from this one.
And I'm not saying they jump hundreds of feet into the air, and you can't judge vampires by movies as the actors were severly limited in them.
God and satan have nothing to do with the netherworld. The nether world is a parallel world which can transfere energy to and from this one.
And I'm not saying they jump hundreds of feet into the air, and you can't judge vampires by movies as the actors were severly limited in them.
you can't just say oh they have netherworld powers so they can do magic but it's not magic so it's real. there's no proof that the netherworld exists, even in vampire fiction it's used and unused at the authors choice. as for the jumping you say they have it, then they dont because i'm right, if it's in then fine but they can't ever use it and if its out then they cant escape by jumping or running so they can and will get swarmed.
but they dont have magical powers or feed of rats or jump insane heights and have insane speed
Yes they do (okay, maybe not magic)! Take all that away and vampires are just weird, pale people who enjoy blood aperitifs.
Almost every time I've seen a portrayal of a vampire, that vampire could jump insanely high, run insanely fast. That same vampire was also usually unnaturally strong, and was blisteringly intelligent.
Yes they do (okay, maybe not magic)! Take all that away and vampires are just weird, pale people who enjoy blood aperitifs.
Almost every time I've seen a portrayal of a vampire, that vampire could jump insanely high, run insanely fast. That same vampire was also usually unnaturally strong, and was blisteringly intelligent.
I've already shot that to shit using the magic of science so can we try to keep up to date so I can have time to look at other threads before I have to argue 3 more points that i've already talked about? I'm too drunk to keep up (yeah saturdays)
God and satan have nothing to do with the netherworld. The nether world is a parallel world which can transfere energy to and from this one.
And I'm not saying they jump hundreds of feet into the air, and you can't judge vampires by movies as the actors were severly limited in them.
you can't just say oh they have netherworld powers so they can do magic but it's not magic so it's real. there's no proof that the netherworld exists, even in vampire fiction it's used and unused at the authors choice. as for the jumping you say they have it, then they dont because i'm right, if it's in then fine but they can't ever use it and if its out then they cant escape by jumping or running so they can and will get swarmed.
It's not magic. It's energy from the nether world. There are no spells or potions, the energy goes into manipulation. Increasing the vampire's strength, extending shadows, coushioning a fall.
I never retracted the jumping high thing. I said they can't jump a hunded meters in the air. Just jump to heights it would be impossible for a human to get to.
Yes they do (okay, maybe not magic)! Take all that away and vampires are just weird, pale people who enjoy blood aperitifs.
Almost every time I've seen a portrayal of a vampire, that vampire could jump insanely high, run insanely fast. That same vampire was also usually unnaturally strong, and was blisteringly intelligent.
I've already shot that to shit using the magic of science so can we try to keep up to date so I can have time to look at other threads before I have to argue 3 more points that i've already talked about? I'm too drunk to keep up (yeah saturdays)
You can't use science against vampires and ignore it when you talk about zombies, which is why you use science for everything (makeing this argement more pointless) or don't use it for anythig (like me).
Yes they do (okay, maybe not magic)! Take all that away and vampires are just weird, pale people who enjoy blood aperitifs.
Almost every time I've seen a portrayal of a vampire, that vampire could jump insanely high, run insanely fast. That same vampire was also usually unnaturally strong, and was blisteringly intelligent.
I've already shot that to shit using the magic of science so can we try to keep up to date so I can have time to look at other threads before I have to argue 3 more points that i've already talked about? I'm too drunk to keep up (yeah saturdays)
Hey! Don't apply reality to vampires and zombies. If you insist on doing that, then zombies would not require their brains to be destroyed in order to die, zombies would not have a sudden urge to feed on everybody's brains, and there wouldn't be a huge zombie outbreak, either. Of course, vampires wouldn't exist either, since the human body cannot metabolize blood alone to survive.
Let's keep any logic out of this so we can continue having fun.
That said, in an illogical world where vampires and zombies exist, the vampires would win for aforementioned reasons.
Yes they do (okay, maybe not magic)! Take all that away and vampires are just weird, pale people who enjoy blood aperitifs.
Almost every time I've seen a portrayal of a vampire, that vampire could jump insanely high, run insanely fast. That same vampire was also usually unnaturally strong, and was blisteringly intelligent.
I've already shot that to shit using the magic of science so can we try to keep up to date so I can have time to look at other threads before I have to argue 3 more points that i've already talked about? I'm too drunk to keep up (yeah saturdays)
You can't use science against vampires and ignore it when you talk about zombies, which is why you use science for everything (makeing this argement more pointless) or don't use it for anythig (like me).
You can't use science against vampires and ignore it when you talk about zombies, which is why you use science for everything (makeing this argement more pointless) or don't use it for anythig (like me).
first netherworld is off as it cant exist, as for the science and ignoring it with zombies, I'm not. a zombie is caused by a diease that causes the body to in essence die but keeps using the brain to spread the virus, it shuts down any other organs and uses the now corpse to spread itself, i never said it makes them break the laws of physics (like vampires do) with impossible strength and speed and they ability to jump high but not feel the effects of gravity. it's unlikely but possible.
You can't use science against vampires and ignore it when you talk about zombies, which is why you use science for everything (makeing this argement more pointless) or don't use it for anythig (like me).
first netherworld is off as it cant exist, as for the science and ignoring it with zombies, I'm not. a zombie is caused by a diease that causes the body to in essence die but keeps using the brain to spread the virus, it shuts down any other organs and uses the now corpse to spread itself, i never said it makes them break the laws of physics (like vampires do) with impossible strength and speed and they ability to jump high but not feel the effects of gravity. it's unlikely but possible.
But the zombies that you have mentioned (the ones that apparently can't die without their brains being destroyed and have an urge to feed on the living) are physically impossible. For a zombie to be able to scientifically locomote, it must have a sort of circulatory system to bring oxygen and nutrients to its muscles. Now, if you shot a zombie's chest out, that circulatory system would be obliterated, making it impossible for the zombie to get energy to its muscles and other systems. This would make it die, and you wouldn't have to destroy its brain for that to happen.
You can't use science against vampires and ignore it when you talk about zombies, which is why you use science for everything (makeing this argement more pointless) or don't use it for anythig (like me).
first netherworld is off as it cant exist, as for the science and ignoring it with zombies, I'm not. a zombie is caused by a diease that causes the body to in essence die but keeps using the brain to spread the virus, it shuts down any other organs and uses the now corpse to spread itself, i never said it makes them break the laws of physics (like vampires do) with impossible strength and speed and they ability to jump high but not feel the effects of gravity. it's unlikely but possible.
It's not possible. Shuting down of the organs will cause permanent death in no more than a week. A virus may control the brain but when the organs turn off you can't do anything.
And I don't like your 'the netherwold doesn't exist because I say so' thing. You can't pick and choose what parts of vampires to argue with. Vampires use netherworld energy and you can't ignore that.
That said, in an illogical world where vampires and zombies exist, the vampires would win for aforementioned reasons.
If we're using everything ever written for vampires v.s everything written for zombies it becomes irrelevant as zombies have had all the pwers vampires have had, keeping it logical also keeps it grounded
Well apart from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_bat; mammals or birds.
Even Renfield in the original book fed off rats.
On zombies
unless you destroy the brain it will keep going, it can't do much but in the heat of battle would you really watch to make sure you aren't near any heads or would you focus on the undead killing machine coming at you?
Depends on the sort of zombies...Zuvembies would keep coming unless they have no means of traction; and the traditional zombie fighting tool is a shotgun. Chula/Vashta Nerada Zombies would still keep coming sans brain.
If we're talking classic Stoker/Romero; Zombies would win because they have the advantage of daylight; and you can't embrace a dead body but you can zombify a living corpse.