I don't recall flying zombies. Or zombies strong enough to punch through a wall. Or zombies that can break the sound barrier. Or zombies with netherworld powers. Or intelligent zombies.
I never said it was good writing but it has been used, that's why i want to keep it logical so we don't have to go into any stupid thing that was written once by a hack who ignores the accepted mythology of the creature in question
It's not possible. Shuting down of the organs will cause permanent death in no more than a week. A virus may control the brain but when the organs turn off you can't do anything.
And I don't like your 'the netherwold doesn't exist because I say so' thing. You can't pick and choose what parts of vampires to argue with. Vampires use netherworld energy and you can't ignore that.
I'm not saying it's impossible becasue i say so im saying its impossible because it makes no sense, as for a circultiory system, you're saying a zombie is still alive but it's not, it has become a tool, viruses don't need oxegen that they cant get from the absesses of the brain. the major downfall of a zombie is that they still decompose and are useless after 3-5 years, i'm leaving the science as it is, and applying it to both sides
Your arguement against the netherworld still fails as none of this makes sense so it's still apt.
And the VIRUS may not need food but the BODY does or it will die in a week. And without a circulatory system it's impossible to get energy to the cells.
Vampires don't need to breath as the circulatory system just pumps food and netherworld energy to the cells.
City of the dead had zombies that were possed by the minions of hell, they could think since they were apart of a collective and had strength and speed that's impossible, also they could take any corpse not just those that were infected but that doesn't make sense so i dont use it
It's not possible. Shuting down of the organs will cause permanent death in no more than a week. A virus may control the brain but when the organs turn off you can't do anything.
And I don't like your 'the netherwold doesn't exist because I say so' thing. You can't pick and choose what parts of vampires to argue with. Vampires use netherworld energy and you can't ignore that.
I'm not saying it's impossible becasue i say so im saying its impossible because it makes no sense, as for a circultiory system, you're saying a zombie is still alive but it's not, it has become a tool, viruses don't need oxegen that they cant get from the absesses of the brain. the major downfall of a zombie is that they still decompose and are useless after 3-5 years, i'm leaving the science as it is, and applying it to both sides
You need energy to make something go- a virus has no way at all of logically providing energy to make zombies move- Viruses can't even metabolize matter! Of course, zombies could feed on brains and metabolize that- that would work, I suppose. The problem is that, without a logical circulatory system to get the nutrients from the brains they ate to their limbs and organs, they won't be able to do anything.
Therefore, neither vampires nor zombies (the ones that you describe have no need for circulatory systems) are scientifically possible. This means that logic only would impede our ability to argue with one another on this topic.
Sorry about all the rants, but I just wanna have fun with the illogic of vamps and zombies.
It's not possible. Shuting down of the organs will cause permanent death in no more than a week. A virus may control the brain but when the organs turn off you can't do anything.
And I don't like your 'the netherwold doesn't exist because I say so' thing. You can't pick and choose what parts of vampires to argue with. Vampires use netherworld energy and you can't ignore that.
I'm not saying it's impossible becasue i say so im saying its impossible because it makes no sense, as for a circultiory system, you're saying a zombie is still alive but it's not, it has become a tool, viruses don't need oxegen that they cant get from the absesses of the brain. the major downfall of a zombie is that they still decompose and are useless after 3-5 years, i'm leaving the science as it is, and applying it to both sides
You need energy to make something go- a virus has no way at all of logically providing energy to make zombies move- Viruses can't even metabolize matter! Of course, zombies could feed on brains and metabolize that- that would work, I suppose. The problem is that, without a logical circulatory system to get the nutrients from the brains they ate to their limbs and organs, they won't be able to do anything.
Therefore, neither vampires nor zombies (the ones that you describe have no need for circulatory systeme) are scientifically possible. This means that logic only would impede our ability to argue with one another on this topic.
Sorry about all the rants, but I just wanna have fun with the illogic of vamps and zombies.
Vampires do have a working ciculatory system, that shit about no heart beat is hollywood tripe.
Your arguement against the netherworld still fails as none of this makes sense so it's still apt.
And the VIRUS may not need food but the BODY does or it will die in a week. And without a circulatory system it's impossible to get energy to the cells.
Vampires don't need to breath as the circulatory system just pumps food and netherworld energy to the cells.
the body is NOT alive, it's a tool, it's already dead but it can be used. also fuck the netherworld, your saying It makes me right so it exists but it can't because what exactly is netherworld enegy, it's nothing and you know it's the only way you can win so you keep brining it up
(ZHU) Michael: City of the dead had zombies that were possed by the minions of hell, they could think since they were apart of a collective and had strength and speed that's impossible, also they could take any corpse not just those that were infected but that doesn't make sense so i dont use it
That was the minions of hell's power, not the zombies.
Your arguement against the netherworld still fails as none of this makes sense so it's still apt.
And the VIRUS may not need food but the BODY does or it will die in a week. And without a circulatory system it's impossible to get energy to the cells.
Vampires don't need to breath as the circulatory system just pumps food and netherworld energy to the cells.
the body is NOT alive, it's a tool, it's already dead but it can be used. also fuck the netherworld, your saying It makes me right so it exists but it can't because what exactly is netherworld enegy, it's nothing and you know it's the only way you can win so you keep brining it up
Netherworld energy is regular energy transfered here from the netherworld.
And the body NEEDS do be alive. If the cells are dead they can't move. A vampire is undead but the body is still alive.
That was the minions of hell's power, not the zombies.
that's why I didn't use it but if I was you I would and I would win
You can't be comparing that to netherworld energy.
The netherworld energy is energy a vampire would store in fat if it was human but instead has transfered it to the netherworld for later use. And I do bring up the netherworld a lot because it's the whole point, a vampire couldn't exist witout it.
You can't be comparing that to netherworld energy.
The netherworld energy is energy a vampire would store in fat if it was human but instead has transfered it to the netherworld for later use. And I do bring up the netherworld a lot because it's the whole point, a vampire couldn't exist witout it.
you can't just disapear energy and call it back whenever you want
I beleive the poll speaks for itself. Crabs are truly the masters of combat. Plus they have one, trivial yet oh so very important advantage over your pathetic Zombie's and Vampires. They exist.
You can't be comparing that to netherworld energy.
The netherworld energy is energy a vampire would store in fat if it was human but instead has transfered it to the netherworld for later use. And I do bring up the netherworld a lot because it's the whole point, a vampire couldn't exist witout it.
you can't just disapear energy and call it back whenever you want
You can't just make a body work without energy either. There's no wishing away people's arguements in this.
The Iron Ninja: I beleive the poll speaks for itself. Crabs are truly the masters of combat. Plus they have one, trivial yet oh so very important advantage over your pathetic Zombie's and Vampires. They exist.
The Iron Ninja: I beleive the poll speaks for itself. Crabs are truly the masters of combat. Plus they have one, trivial yet oh so very important advantage over your pathetic Zombie's and Vampires. They exist.
Vampires aren't scared by the superior existence of crabs.
Your arguement against the netherworld still fails as none of this makes sense so it's still apt.
And the VIRUS may not need food but the BODY does or it will die in a week. And without a circulatory system it's impossible to get energy to the cells.
Vampires don't need to breath as the circulatory system just pumps food and netherworld energy to the cells.
the body is NOT alive, it's a tool, it's already dead but it can be used. also fuck the netherworld, your saying It makes me right so it exists but it can't because what exactly is netherworld enegy, it's nothing and you know it's the only way you can win so you keep brining it up
If the virus controlled a body with no skeleton, it could not move. The same thing applies here. The body isn't alive, but it still has the same needs as a live one has. As for your "The netherworld doesn't exist statement, see my previous statement.
I don't have all the answers. I didn't start the myth.[/quote if you cant give a reason it would work you can't say it does
[quote=Janus Vesta post=18.73764.809134]You can't just make a body work without energy either. There's no wishing away people's arguements in this.
with electrical impuses you can make the body move even though it's dead, with controled electrical impuses it's possible though unlikely
No.
A cell CANNOT move if it isn't getting a constant supply of energy. Electrical impulses are great for messages but they don't do jack shit for power. And even if a cell could survive on 0 energy it would quickly kill it's self with it's own waste.
The Iron Ninja: I beleive the poll speaks for itself. Crabs are truly the masters of combat. Plus they have one, trivial yet oh so very important advantage over your pathetic Zombie's and Vampires. They exist.
Alright, FeNinja- you win... Or the crabs win...
When I win, my Crabs win with me, and vice versa.
Janus Vesta: Vampires aren't scared by the superior existence of crabs.
They should be.
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And as for the energy of vampires. Energy is naturally transfered all the time. It's energy, it moves, all energy wants to do is move. It could flow through magical gateways, wormholes, the shit in your ass.
Or maybe because the netherworld is parallel to our world and vampires can physically go there, it would be logical (lol logic here) to assume the nergy naturally flows back and forth. Like wind, only more consentrated.
A cell CANNOT move if it isn't getting a constant supply of energy. Electrical impulses are great for messages but they don't do jack shit for power. And even if a cell could survive on 0 energy it would quickly kill it's self with it's own waste.
it's being manipulated it has no choice it's a reaction, there is no waste since it's not moving on it's own it's based soley on reaction. besides netherworld enegry take away the waste and turns it into garlic to prevent vampires existance. see how shitty that argument is.
Janus Vesta: And as for the energy of vampires. Energy is naturally transfered all the time. It's energy, it moves, all energy wants to do is move. It could flow through magical gateways, wormholes, the shit in your ass.
Or maybe because the netherworld is parallel to our world and vampires can physically go there, it would be logical (lol logic here) to assume the nergy naturally flows back and forth. Like wind, only more consentrated.
but you cant just go enery go away and energy return, it makes no sense
A cell CANNOT move if it isn't getting a constant supply of energy. Electrical impulses are great for messages but they don't do jack shit for power. And even if a cell could survive on 0 energy it would quickly kill it's self with it's own waste.
it's being manipulated it has no choice it's a reaction, there is no waste since it's not moving on it's own it's based soley on reaction. besides netherworld enegry take away the waste and turns it into garlic to prevent vampires existance. see how shitty that argument is.
Zombies aren't otherworldly. They can't use netherworld energy. Witches can, werewolves can, zombies can't. And a cell needs food to perform an action. It can't react without energy to do so.
Janus Vesta: And as for the energy of vampires. Energy is naturally transfered all the time. It's energy, it moves, all energy wants to do is move. It could flow through magical gateways, wormholes, the shit in your ass.
Or maybe because the netherworld is parallel to our world and vampires can physically go there, it would be logical (lol logic here) to assume the nergy naturally flows back and forth. Like wind, only more consentrated.
but you cant just go enery go away and energy return, it makes no sense
We're talking about Zombies, Vampires and Crabs and you want to bring up sense and logic?
I never said it was good writing but it has been used, that's why i want to keep it logical so we don't have to go into any stupid thing that was written once by a hack who ignores the accepted mythology of the creature in question