hmmm yes marvel dose bring in good actors but the guy who played iron man was on shakey grounds every one in my town has said for being a druggie i think and if i am wrong so be it. also Norton had a fight with marvel and was not recognized as contributing to the movie via the credits. plus we have the upcoming avengers movie and many people are asking will norton be in their. so the facts are the facts or opions meh anyway i dare not watch another hulk movie after Ang Lees.

[quote=asleep at the comp the guy who played iron man was on shakey grounds every one in my town has said for being a druggie i think and if i am wrong so be it. [/quote]

yes Robert Downey Jr was addicted to drugs and alcohol, which makes him great for the role of Tony Stark. soon as i heard he was cast as Tony, i was like "wow good choice, not much of a stretch for him to play that roll" and he pulled it off great too

as for Ang Lee's Hulk, it was one of the best stylistically comic book movies i've ever seen. it had some damn cool shots and almost felt like you were watching a comic book. story wasn't the greatest but more ppl should borrow some of his cinematography cause it was darn cool

also Norton had a fight with marvel and was not recognized as contributing to the movie via the credits.

How'd they pull that off? He was the lead! Did they just not list Banner in the credits, or something?

No.

Jdopus:

The movie starts with a montage although it's never really explained to us just exactly why he became the Hulk,

it's the Hulk, did you really need exposition to figure it out? and they explain it later on anyways.

my only problem with the film was how it was thematically empty when they could have really played with interesting ideas of the good of the individual vs. that of society. obviously Banner doesn't want to be dissected... but obviously, no Government program can leave a radiated mutant fuck up roam free smashing the shit out of things everytime he's sad.

but they blew it and made the General a douche bag (despite the actors best efforts). in the end they just didn't give a shit about thematics and made a sweet action movie. addittionally, they made Liv Tyler's character dumb as shit... she's a doctor, she should be saying sciencish stuff not, "Hit the button now!"

i think she was the only doctor character who didn't ues the word "molecular"

BallPtPenTheif:

my only problem with the film was how it was thematically empty when they could have really played with interesting ideas of the good of the individual vs. that of society. obviously Banner doesn't want to be dissected... but obviously, no Government program can leave a radiated mutant fuck up roam free smashing the shit out of things everytime he's sad.

ummm do you remember what happened with the first movie? they tried it already and as the saying goes "epically failed" at the task, hence for the more HULK SMASH thing in this movie

and Thunderbolt Ross IS a douche, he's an army guy, they are typically very unwavering in what they need to do

When was Thunderbolt Ross NOT a douche? What comics were you reading, BallPtPenThief?

He was always a narrow-minded army guy with tunnel-vision and little regard for Banner or anyone else that gets in his way.

cleverlymadeup:

ummm do you remember what happened with the first movie? they tried it already and as the saying goes "epically failed" at the task, hence for the more HULK SMASH thing in this movie

and Thunderbolt Ross IS a douche, he's an army guy, they are typically very unwavering in what they need to do

failure is a subjective notion. i happen to love Ang Lee's Hulk, however the film is more of an insight into Ang Lee's personal relationship with his father rather than a super hero movie. so i understand why, when viewed, from a super hero angle, people feel that way. as a filmmaker Ang Lee finds a personal connection with his material and wraps it around himself to fit the idea he attempts to convey... this method does not result in blockbuster summer action movies.

however, thematic elements do not detract from the action of a film. Hostile, is a good example of this, since it was a slasher film with incredibly strong thematic ideas. you can have your cake and eat it too.

what makes Ed Norton's Hulk so frustrating is that the elements were there for some strong thematic ideas, but they just didn't bend the script and dialogue to capitalize on it.

BallPtPenTheif:
what makes Ed Norton's Hulk so frustrating is that the elements were there for some strong thematic ideas, but they just didn't bend the script and dialogue to capitalize on it.

You DO realize that this is a comic book movie, right? If you want strong thematic focus, try a drama movie. You will be very disappointed if you go to an action flick expecting oscar-winning scripts.

babyblues:

BallPtPenTheif:
what makes Ed Norton's Hulk so frustrating is that the elements were there for some strong thematic ideas, but they just didn't bend the script and dialogue to capitalize on it.

You DO realize that this is a comic book movie, right? If you want strong thematic focus, try a drama movie. You will be very disappointed if you go to an action flick expecting oscar-winning scripts.

i don't think you realize what thematic elements are. hell, Steven Segal movies have thematic elements, they are just poorly executed because they are too blatant and campy.

i'm not asking for existenstial prose, or deep character development... i'm asking for cohesive and fleshed out thematic ideas. why is it too much to compare this film against Batman, Spider-Man, Iron-Man... or any of the other films that conveyed solid thematics?

Because it's the Hulk. The themes in the movie are the same as in the comic.. (Bruce Banner is a guy who turns into a big monster. He doesn't like it, but he uses it for good. The end.)

You can't honestly expect much from a series that has the line "HULK SMASH!!!" in it.

asleep at the comp:
good god the incredible hulk or as i call it waste of money was a waste of 2 hours of my life and four dollars of my check while i can't say it was good i can point out this nothing but cg to me. Good god holly wood frist off if you wanna make a good movie get good actors edward norton meh iron man guy actor (never bother to care but i still hear it is awsome meh) yes those make good movies i think

I have tried to type like you, just to see what's so great about it, and I can't physically make myself do it. Maybe I need to start all of my quasi sentences with, "good god".

or have as many black outs as me but that is not the point, of my good god state ment i like to catch the reviews and then go see it i am not wasting my pay checks on xbox 360, jawbreakers and a stupid hulk movie but this is my review and a review is an opion which can be ignored. and if you think that my writing is bad well so be i tryed playing mad libs gave it to my friend and said marry chirstmas in july. i hate english cause it parodys so many other cultures and groups.

BallPtPenTheif:

my only problem with the film was how it was thematically empty when they could have really played with interesting ideas of the good of the individual vs. that of society. obviously Banner doesn't want to be dissected... but obviously, no Government program can leave a radiated mutant fuck up roam free smashing the shit out of things everytime he's sad.

That's a hard thing do to with the Hulk though. The "good of society" is not furthered by repeatedly trying to capture Banner, because all that does is unleash the Hulk, who is basically collateral damage personified.

Also, the real interesting conflict in Hulk has always been between Banner and Hulk, which this film actually did quite well. Norton is convincingly terrified of becoming Hulk, but eventually realises that he might have to sometimes. (Hopefully, that's something that can develop in sequels, especially if they start bringing out Hulk's personality as well).

I have difficulty imaging a movie about the hulk being credible so that doesn't leave much space for anything short of Incredible.

(Or at least nigh-credible)

babyblues:
Because it's the Hulk. The themes in the movie are the same as in the comic.. (Bruce Banner is a guy who turns into a big monster. He doesn't like it, but he uses it for good. The end.)

You can't honestly expect much from a series that has the line "HULK SMASH!!!" in it.

the hulk comics that i read were brimming with internal conflict and Froidian thematics of Id versus Super Ego. i don't know why you keep insisting that all Hulk was ever about was breaking stuff.

just because the comic character is dumb doesn't mean it's writers were.

GloatingSwine:

That's a hard thing do to with the Hulk though. The "good of society" is not furthered by repeatedly trying to capture Banner, because all that does is unleash the Hulk, who is basically collateral damage personified.l)

though that is what happens, obviously the military is banking on a clean apprehension of the Hulk. i mean, Thunderbolt Ross isn't just a jerk who wants to destroy the planet.. his intentions are to capture the Hulk, make super soldiers, and create a powerful military complex in order to secure America's place as a world leader.

from Ross' perspective, he's the good guy