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Anonymous Source Posts: 2 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 | |
BANNED  Posts: 133 Joined: 9 Oct 2007     |
remember this guy? |
Paperboy Posts: 20 Joined: 11 Sep 2007 | LOLOLOLOL. this one was much funnier. |
Paperboy  Posts: 44 Joined: 4 Oct 2007  |
Im using the above quote as a general example, but not the most extreme one. Now, i like Yahtzee, and i feel compeled to read all the comments, but after about ten i get too sick to continue because it seems that nine of those ten only comment to say how much they dislike the game Yahtzee is dissing. The above is a good example, and its not even about the PRIMARY DISS, its about a game he dissed on the side. But everyone rushes up to him and is all like "Yes sir, i hate that game too, let me whine about it on the comments while offering you my firstborn son." It was much worse than this for his Halo 3 review, so bad in fact that I created this account just to put this rant up if things didnt improve. Perhaps its just me wearing Asshole-Tinted glasses, but everyone around me seems to spend all their time hating on mainstream games while pointing out much less popular games that perhaps did one or two things better, which they then claim to be the most important one or two thing so as to ignore the fact that the odds are strongly against their personal game having done ANYTHING ELSE nearly as good as the amazing new game they are spitting their rage at. Look, i played WoW, and i am giving it up because its a boring money sink, but to say it is the least innovative MMO possible is stupid. Sorry, but i cant find a nicer way of putting that. Halo 3 isnt the best game out their, but point out one game that has better graphics, gameplay, multiplayer, story, camera, and control layout all at once! I know im being an asshole, but at least im being an asshole towards other assholes rather than perfectly good games that for some obscure and illogical reason i hate. Nuf Said. |
Paperboy  Posts: 44 Joined: 30 Aug 2007  | Oh, oh god. That last bit with the salad, I'm still recovering from. Edit: had to edit mine after I saw what a gibbering twat the guy above me was. Yahtzee admitted in the video that WoW was in fact the best MMO on the market (granted that's not saying much). And you act like pointing out all of the truly brilliant little-known games that are in fact better than most of the mainstream bullshit is a bad thing. And I'll give you a better game than Halo 3 easy, Half-Life 2. A game that's been out for quite a while that most of the halo-tards probably haven't even heard of. Despite the fact that it kicks the shit out of Halo as a series in every conceivable way. I guess as long as a game has bright and shiny colors and fanbase with all of the collected intelligence of a bar of dipshit brand soap, it really doesn't need things like depth or storyline. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 10 Joined: 12 Sep 2007 |
one word: Bioshock.... Nuff Said |
BANNED Posts: 133 Joined: 9 Oct 2007 |
totally. The Force Unleashed by Lucas Arts will most likely be (I mean will be) the best selling Star Wars game of all time. Check it out. Realistic physics, clear graphics, unimaginable (not completely, you see it) scale, interesting storylie (original and never before even thought about), and not to mention your evil. Darth Vader's secret apprentice......Kicking Ass With The Force 101 |
Paperboy Posts: 12 Joined: 10 Oct 2007 | I can only imagine how many people take his suggestions on what to email him about. God, I am glad I don't have to go through that. |
Paperboy Posts: 12 Joined: 10 Oct 2007 |
Only problem, is most people nowadays consider multiplayer a must-have or the game is crap, so I'd expect him to come back with "Bioshock doesn't have multiplayer blah blah blah." However, my two favorite games I have played so far this year are Heavenly Sword and Bioshock. Both have better gameplay, graphics, controls, and camera. I don't really like the story of any of them, but Bioshock's would have to be the best one, while the characters in Heavenly Sword were the best I have ever seen in a game, and the voice acting was superb. Halo 3 was "meh." After seeing Heavenly Sword's beauty, I really think that had a huge impact on how I felt about Halo 3 when it came out. Personally, I also like everything about Gears more than Halo 3. Graphics, check. Gameplay, check. Multiplayer (debatable for some, but Gears is ahead for me). Controls, check. Camera, check. Story (they still have a chance to mess it up, but for now...), check. |
Paperboy Posts: 43 Joined: 3 Oct 2007   | My problem with this review is that it really just isn't very informative, which is a problem. In the past video-articles, whatever tangental ranting is usually punctuated by commentary about certain elements of gameplay. That's good, it usually run at about 50/50 tangental/relevant ratio, and it keeps things amusing and interesting. The problem with this one is that it still has the 50% tangental ranting, but the other 50% is divvied up between a few comments and some confusing insertions. Example: "... the Tabula Rasa user interface looks a hell of a lot like the one from World of Warcraft, just with a sci-fi theme added and the user friendliness scaled back to minus ninety-two." Now, granted, my experience with WoW is borrowing a trial key from a friend and playing that for about half the given days available, but I don't know what the hell any of that quote means. The theme change I can understand, but how does something that's so disparately user-unfriendly resemble an interface in World of Warcraft? Perhaps visually I could understand, but if the aesthetics are the only basis for the comment, what's the point? Other comments were that the grinding and quests are much like other MMORPGs, aliens will invade towns, and that the shooter/MMORPG hybrid aspects of the game probably won't please either audience very well. The problem is, the first statement was something that most people will know, regardless of how the game is advertised, the second doesn't really elaborate on how that effects gameplay, and the third doesn't tell me anything at all, because I don't really know what the shooter or MMORPG audience wants. Now, maybe some of this stuff would make more sense if I had played Tabula Rasa at all, but I haven't. And, if I had, that would sort of defeat the purpose of watching a review on the subject. What I generally like about these Zero Punctuation reviews is that they bring up various subjects that aren't often seen elsewhere, and they're usually pretty (comedically)harsh. Being harsh is usually good, because it often means picking out more (or more obscure) problems that the reader/watcher can then examine and determine whether or not they'll effect his enjoyment of the game. However, I think this particular review of Tabula Rasa avoids being informatively harsh and instead focuses on being comedically harsh. As the previous reviews show, this really doesn't need to be a mutually exclusive decision. It's unfortunate, because past reviews have made me want to see more of Psychonauts, Bioshock, and Halo 3, because they gave me intersting information and perspective on the game. This review, though, didn't really add anything. It was entertaining, sure, but I don't feel like I know any more about the game than when I started, and since I haven't played it at all, that isn't much. Of course, one review is never enough to make me buy or not buy a game, but they all factor into the amalgamation that is my informed decision-making process. I just thought that needed to be said. |
BANNED Posts: 133 Joined: 9 Oct 2007 | Don't watch Zero Punctuation to learn about a game. Watch it to learn the view of some random obscenely funny narcissistic prick (he said it himself). The End. I don't learn much from his reviews, I learn funny ways to criticize video games without being considered an a**hole. Now, this is probably just me because I have every system available and I study (yes, study) the reviews from Gamespy and IGN before even renting a game. I also have a friend that owns every GBA game (nearly every) since the GBA even came out so I can pretty much get the back story for every game from my walking encyclopedic friend with the big fro. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 10 Oct 2007 |
The average WoW player is not under 20, i know that from playing the damned game since its release in Europe and the beta before that. From my own experience id say the average age is 25 or upwards from there. It's been very rare for me to run into anyone under 18 and most people in the guild i used to play in were over 25. Hell allmost all my imediate family plays this drug disguised as a game, everyone excluding my father. |
Paperboy Posts: 45 Joined: 18 Sep 2007 | Wow, all the kissassery is making my head hurt. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 10 Oct 2007 | Best way to avoid the grind is to let the players create the content. Create an environment where the players actions create content for other players. Using eve as an example: One corporation claims resource. Other corporation wants in on resource. War? Diplomacy? War: Corporation hires mercenaries(Other corporation) to help defend its resource. Behind the scenes two other corporations wage a economic war on each other trying to supply the market with overpriced equipment since the war is taking its toll on available equipment. No NPC ever involved here. This butterfly effect is what you need to create content. In my year playing eve I only interacted with NPC's for the first month of playing. They unfortunately have the grind for ISK ( Money ). But even this can be avoided if you play your cards right. There are some serious flaws with the game, but they really got it spot on with player driven content. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 79 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 | Review of the review: Starting to feel the pressure to perform Yahtzee? Relax; take a deep breath; don't stress out these things. Trying to press out something that hasn't been fully digested yet tends to result in a red face and lots of grunting interspersed with massive amounts of obscenities, but the end result is usually quite mediocre and stinky. And that's the first impression here. Don't get me wrong: it is still good and entertaining. But compared to the absolutely brilliant vivisections of Heavenly Sword(s) and Bioshock, this review feels kind of rushed. I can't blame you for it. Being creative under pressure, especially when someone else tells you what to be creative about, does to the end result what rushing to the ground at 600 miles per hours does to putting the mask over your face and breathing normally (thank you George Carlin for that excellent skit): it's just so damned difficut to do. So if you're feeling that you *must* do these reviews rather than that you *want* to do them, then you will jump the shark and it will all be over... and this is not something anyone of us want, your editor in particular. For next week, ask him/her to be allowed to do something *you* want to do while letting the review that *they* want be done over, not one, but two weeks so that you can chew it properly, swallow without choking, digest it with a light after-dinner fruit sallad, and eventually - without constipation nor flatulence - present it in a premium top quality form ready to be thrown in the face of whatever it was that you were reviewing. Just relax mate... ;) |
Anonymous Source Posts: 4 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 | Stop calling it a review, you muppets. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 1 Joined: 10 Oct 2007 | Yahtzee am teh roxxor. Nice to see some Douglas Adams references in this one too. |
Paperboy Posts: 23 Joined: 7 Oct 2007 |
Worst. Post. Ever. Not only does it BARELY makes since, but immoral too! :P Are we trying to imply that we should be a-holes to humans bashing a game that doesn't deserve the ratings it received and call them a-holes for it...instead of simply bashing something that isn't LIVING? Come now. I think even the dumbest of humans should know that bashing a human is far more wrong than bashing a over-hype. Or am I reading your post wrong? |
Paperboy Posts: 23 Joined: 7 Oct 2007 |
Nah, he did a good job as always. You just happened to like one of his older ones better. It's a preference thing for you I'm sure. He wasn't rushing to get this done! He had a bloodly week to finish this. Just relaz mate...;) |
Copy Clerk Posts: 79 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 |
Matter of opinion I guess... but let me state my reasons for forming it. * Zero punctuation by all means... but the pacing here is quicker than before. I immediatly get this feeling of Yahtzee thinking "Musttalkfastermusttalkfastermustkeepupthetrademarksandmakemoreofthem". Previous ZP reviews were indeed fast paced but they were done relaxed and comfortably. This feels strained and artificial. At times I have difficulty hearing what he says and I still concider myself fairly proficient in grasping spoken english. * The previous reviews, especially Heavenly Swords and Bioshock, contained many beautiful descriptions and references. Having university credits in physics I was in complete stitches about Schoedinger's Console; Nariko described as "[jumping] around with her underdressed, undernourished form, spinning all over the place like a bunch of coathangers in a dryer" described that part of the demo to near perfection; I had never even heard of Atlas Shrugged but thanks to ZP I now know what it is; and the "well executed kick in the balls with the best of intentions" with the graphics of him "walking funny" had me howling in the office. But this review... what can I say, it just doesn't have that elegant *edge* to it. Which brings us to... * The masturbation reference. Gods, that was just plain tacky and Yahtzee admitting that it was "the worst sequence [he] has ever done" doesn't really excuse that. It's resorting to teenage humor. Even Bullshit & Chips is better than that. A matter opinion, as stated, but I can't help but to worry. /S |
Paperboy Posts: 12 Joined: 10 Oct 2007 |
Good, glad someone else is "cultured" enough to catch it :) |
Brand Manager  Posts: 617 Joined: 8 Oct 2007    | Yet again, I loved it. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 1 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 | How did Yahtzee get 3 months of free WOW? |
BANNED Posts: 75 Joined: 3 Oct 2007 | I dunno. It could be a matter of Non-Disclosure Agreement. NDAs are often used with beta testing and I don't know if that's the case here,but it would explain why he didn't say much about the guts of the game. NDAs are especially hard on reviewers who can't hide who they are when they leak info and are in a more obvious position to be sued. Further it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing was made to be longer and he started talking faster to squeeze it all in and then it got edited to prevent violating the NDA and we ended up with a much shorter,less informative video. That said,I like WoW and I'm still going to play it. I just wish they'd enable armor painting. :p |
Anonymous Source Posts: 1 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 | Whatever I do, I can't get to open the video... I tried deleting/reinstalling flash, i tried turning off every single IE protection... What can I do ?? I can see any other video in the net but not these. |
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Paperboy Posts: 28 Joined: 7 Oct 2007 | On the comments made that this review didn't seem informative enough, well, what's to be informed about? Can't you just take his word for it that the interface is a load of bollux and capture the flag and MMO aspects don't mix? I do see where all those comments are coming from, though. The reason it doesn't seem as informative as the other reviews is that Yahtzee transformed this one into more a commentary about MMORPGs in general than a commentary on the game's suckier points, overshadowing Tabula Rasa entirely--which I'd like to say may have been a message he was trying to send between the lines, the point being that Tabula Rasa really doesn't quite live up to the standards set by other MMOs and is overshadowed by them so much that it doesn't deserve his undivided attention in this review. I'd LIKE to be able to say that, but the reality is probably that he got sick of it after the first time he found out all Gobulcoque's base were belong to a bunch of hooting dickhole aliens and put off putting this review together for a while. Even so, it was nice to see him get some of his reading speed and edge back, and it was certainly one of the funnier reviews I've seen since he started here. |
Paperboy Posts: 22 Joined: 6 Sep 2007 | The problem with MMOs is every one that comes along tends to be merely a variant on the ones before and so far none have offered up anything truly innovative and tried to break away from the traditional formula successfully. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 10 Joined: 6 Sep 2007 |
It's more a matter of only one of the AAA have successfully. Plenty of others have broken away to a greater or lesser extent, such as Neveron, Oz, and Shattered Galaxy, and had at least some time in which they were quite monetarily successful. None of those ever broke a AAA player base and only EVE has any serious claim on being both innovative and AAA in terms of audience and development money. I rather liked this review as it was more him getting back to being funny. Not to say I wasn't laughing during Halo 3 and Peggle, more they just didn't seem anywhere near as funny as Heavenly Sword(s), and this one was a definite step in the right direction as he seemed to be enjoying the process of doing it more. Also, to go into more detail about why the UI sucked so bad; It looked like the WoW interface, but wasn't very intuitive in terms of shortcuts nor quite big enough for the buttons to be easy to use. Imagine Neocron or Anarchy Online style quick keys, mixed with a WoW graphic, not that either is bad, simply that the dichotomy of the two leaves you even more confused and it really sucks when you keep opening your skills screen looking for your inventory. P.S. What is most confusing about MMOs, is that there has already been a paradigm shift in what the experienced players are looking for, but not in what developers are looking to make. They all want 4 million WoW subscribers of their own, but can't take a step back and say, well every other game works it's ass off to get 250k, maybe we should stop trying to dethrone WoW and just work our ass off for the 250k and see where it goes from there. The indie scene seems to be way ahead of the mainstream in terms of development at this point, but thats all 2-5 years in dev, if it ever manages to get released, so we won't even see it for a while. |
Paperboy Posts: 44 Joined: 4 Oct 2007 |
This guy makes another good example. If he had bothered to actualy read what i wrote he may have noticed that I *like* Yahtzee. I dont argue with him. I listen to him. Its assholes like the poster i have a problem with. So, insult me all you want, dont claim im against the reviewer. And its not bad to claim that you think a game is better, but to act like the mainstream game is crap because you found something better in one or two ways is what pisses me off. Also, Bioshock is a better game than Halo 3, even tho i didnt like it as much personaly. BUT, Bioshock is a mainstram game. As is Half-Life 2. And Half-Life 2 didnt have graphics as good as Halo 3, and in my biased opinion, didnt have as good a story. Also, for the other idiot, who tried to bring morals into the thing. This isnt about morals or how forum goers (all of whom, including me, are terrible people, with few exceptions) treat each other. Its about how they treat games. Then again, its all just my opinion. Feel free to bash me. Feel free to argue with me, i respect argument much more, but i know that bashing is easier as it doest require thinking. I do it myself. |
Paperboy Posts: 23 Joined: 7 Oct 2007 |
Oh...for the love of... You must not have seen: ":P", did you? Either ways, since you said it yourself: "opinion", then I think I can keep my last statement I gave ya. You can bash if you want, but I only apply logic without too much need to insult. :P I don't hate the game Halo 3, I just don't like it solely because it does NOTHING too new out of the other several shooters out there. It basically got its high rating from title alone. Just like Final Fantasy XII did. *Puts on flame helmet for the Enix lovers.* |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 488 Joined: 4 Oct 2007  | I'm wondering what would happen if, against all their wishes and protests, Valve were forced to make an MMO. |
Muckraker  Posts: 278 Joined: 12 Sep 2007  |
Team Fortress 2. Some might say the story's not as good, since TF2 has no story at all. But based on the general opinion of Halo 3's "story", I think there are some who would consider TF2 an improvement in that department as well. |
Paperboy  Posts: 17 Joined: 11 Oct 2007 |
A true MMOFPSRPG is most definitely needed. The game that had the most potential was GunZ, but funding was low, and the developers were lazy and arrogant, so it became nothing more than a buggy game that is literally IMPOSSIBLE for new users to get into, with veterans exploiting bugs that would take a new user a long time to learn. The community is probably the worst I've ever seen. I'm ashamed to say I was with the game from the beginning, and even babysat them in the official forums as a moderator. I bailed three months after the game launched, when I came to realize that MAIET, the developer, had made false promises that the game WOULD in fact develop into much more than what it was at the time. It never happened. The only noticeable changes over the past two years were a few new modes that obviously didn't take much development effort, and also a few new bits of clothing-- that you had to pay real cash for. What a damn waste. If someone could make an MMORPG with the same fast-paced nature and weaponry as GunZ, but with better developer support and proper funding, it would quite possibly be one of the greatest games ever made. |
Paperboy Posts: 44 Joined: 4 Oct 2007 |
Ha. Perhaps the general opinion here, but in the world of reviews, Halo 3 is doing all right. And again, how do i know your not covering up your bias with a statement that a bunch of unammed people have you back? |
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Congrats Yahtzee. I've sold my soul to The Escapist and signed up, just to say "Gareth Gobulcoque" is funniest thing you've said in a review since "Twing Twang."