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Copy Clerk Posts: 107 Joined: 9 Dec 2007   | |
Anonymous Source Posts: 2 Joined: 27 Apr 2008 | Hi Yahtzee, i usually like your reviews, and can usually relate to them to some extent, although this was no exception, as i could relate to my friends being "that guy" and myself not doing too well at the game, i dont own a wii, i have never owned a nintendo until i bought a DS, but i still see this as a good game. I cant help but think that the reason you dont particularly like this game is because of the severe beating you received at Yugs house after supanova in brisbane. as almost everyone should know now, you didnt only verse your friends there but other fellow game reviewers and the like. this review seems to highlight the fact that you were repeatedly beaten, and resembles the whining nature of someone who is just shit. "wha wha wha, i dont like this game, lets play another" cry some more... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2600 Joined: 21 Jan 2008     |
Ouch dude, that's harsh. But, do you know what would get your point across more? Proper punctuation. Only Yahtzee can get away with 'Zero Punctuation'... See what I did there? - A procrastinator |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3355 Joined: 24 Apr 2008  |
for someone out to argue Yahtzee's opinions, you do support his attitude towards brawl fans... perfectly
i though that was a given in any fan/hater 'debate' also, i think great indicator of how far a thread has degenerated is the fact that now people are calling themselves fanboys and giving it no second thought... That said, watching the same 30 posts replay over and over again, with me filling one of the the 'pointlessly attempting to sound rational' slot in this particular cycle, is... fun. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3355 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 | blast |
Anonymous Source Posts: 1 Joined: 27 Apr 2008 | I'm a fan of the Smash series, but the fact that Yahtzee doesn't like it is fine. I have only one major problem with the review. Brawl is not a button masher. I agree with Yahtzee on hating fighting games, but the Smash series are my favorite games and I must've played Melee far more than any other game I've ever played. The reason I like it (or one I suppose) is that button mashing absolutely doesn't work in this game. Button mashing against anyone even relatively decent ends in your character doing a stupid dance and then dying as your opponent attacks while you're open. Other than that, I liked the review. Unlocking characters definitely sucks and the Mother 3 comment made me laugh. Keep it up, Yahtzee. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 3 Joined: 27 Apr 2008 | Regardless of what some other people have said in this thread I still think this 'review' sums it up perfectly. I love to argue with the fanboys about things like this and Wii Fit and they try to defend them. They don't seem to understand that it isn't a new game and on PC you wouldn't have this problem, it would be a £5 expansion pack. From what I've played I know that these reviews are as accurate and as fair as they come. Yes. Seriously. I wouldn't buy a game that 'Yahtzee' reviews as bad because, well, it will be. Regarding Grand Theft Auto 4; I think it looks a bit 'meh' to be honest. Nothing new, really, just updated graphics and what looks like a mess of multiplayer. |
Paperboy Posts: 20 Joined: 18 Nov 2007 | Now that I've read through this all the way (24 pages) I can't NOT comment! T_T I agree that this was not the best review I've seen, and ArchmageDale summed up most of my thoughts on the review quite nicely on page 21. I don't know anything about the single player, on the other hand it didn't seem like Yahtzee was trying to hide his lack of playtime on this game. If you were wondering, I have also been to a Brawl Tournament to play competitively... but didn't like it so much. And Kirby's Final Smash is terrible-- or I failed with it.
This made me laugh. I've played (and hated) R.O.B.'s game a very long time ago. Shame indeed, as I tell my friends.
Also a good laugh here. Post 556, page 17, for those wondering. And as a final note, Turbowombat is still currently my hero for a) knowing about competitive smash, AND b) Linking to perfect control. (page 6)
I can't help myself from linking to another one of SDM's vids--- this one is funny, and quality too. |
Muckraker  Posts: 240 Joined: 23 Apr 2008   | I have no intension to read all 24 damned pages of fanboys vs haters vs ZP hates vs ZP lovers vs the sane, reasonable people. He didn't call people who like SSBB idiots, he called people who went into forums to defend the name 'Ninendo Wii' fanboy twats who'd spam hate into his inbox (looks like he was right). Although after seeing all this, I have to wonder - after all, even his bashing of Halo 3 didn't get this much chatter. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4939 Joined: 30 Jan 2008  |
You got 10 seconds to post three characters that would be instantly recognisable in the west and not tied up in legal issues. |
Paperboy  Posts: 31 Joined: 23 Apr 2008 |
My guess is that it's because Halo 3's fanbase is more mature. (not by much though, IMO) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4939 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I think the real reason is twofold - that his main criticisms were a lot more nitpicking, and a lot more arguable, and that he did not qualify it by saying "I'm being too mean, it was actually quite enjoyable, if a bit chaotic." He made it out to be the worst video game in the history of man, whereas he called Halo 3 average. You really cannot compare the two situations. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 86 Joined: 25 Apr 2008    | No, he definitely had some justifying statements in the review; "maybe I'm approaching this the wrong way, maybe...etc." Granted, that led to his rant about Sonic, but that's what he does. There is some truth to the maturity statement, but not in the way it was read by most people I imagine. If Xbox targets the "beer-drinking frat boy demographic," then the players are too busy attempting to make themselves look manly in the face of their friends (and a good way to do that is to engage in a bloody shootout) than reading online forums about their favorite video games, which, frankly, decreases the manly/cool/whatever reputation significantly. Most of the Halo friends I have fall into the above category (nothing wrong with that, so don't hurt me), whereas most of the SSB friends I have aren't too heavy into the drinking and such, and can sit around arguing in nerdy forums like this one without hurting their reputation too much, if at all. I hope, for my sake. |
Muckraker Posts: 309 Joined: 2 Jan 2008  |
might be true :p the smash fans I know are still somewhat kids. Don't know any real Halo fans, but the people who just play it are more mature (comes from a smash fan) but really, are we not going to reach 1k :'( |
Anonymous Source Posts: 7 Joined: 23 Apr 2008 | I'm sure we'll reach 1k. Let's just bash both sides and the ambiguous ones! Heh. Funny how the debate doesn't really exist even. Just people keep coming in and stating their opinion. Is anyone actually bothered by anyone's opinion here? To me, it only sort of bugs me that people assume that the stuff fanboys like is only due to being fanboys. Like ROB. We like it cause we actually think it is cool. Not cause we breathe nintendo or anything. |
Muckraker  Posts: 237 Joined: 22 Jan 2008 | my biggest problem with yahtzee's review was it seemed so forced, like he really didn't want to do it and honestly i don't think he should've been asked to, anyone who's seen even one ZP review could probably guess his opinion on this game and forcing him to review it is like making a republican watch brokeback mountain, sparks will fly and someone's head will inevitably explode. the thing is smashbros is indeed intended for nintendo fans, and since... what maybe 10% (if i'm being generous) of the escapist readers actually tolerate nintendo much less like them. i think this was a fairly predictable outcome but hey now i'm rooting for this thread maybe if we really turn up the flames we could make this the longest thread ever on the escapist. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 590 Joined: 6 Dec 2007 | How long do you think this topic'd be with all the Nintard bile removed? |
Anonymous Source Posts: 2 Joined: 27 Apr 2008 | ohh my GOD! |
Copy Clerk Posts: 86 Joined: 25 Apr 2008 | But then...by your own argument, wouldn't that mean Yahtzee expects us to be debating him, and it would be odd if we didn't? At the end of his review, he even wrote that he's a "glutton for punishment." And...
I don't agree with that. SSBB is certainly LIKED by fanboys, sure, but not MEANT for them. I mean, that sentiment makes it seem that anything liked by fanboys can only be liked by fanboys. There's plenty of people out there who enjoy the game for what it is and nothing more. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 3 Joined: 26 Mar 2008 | ZP is a god, this review was awesome. Everyone knows the flaws of this game even those who play it, who cares if he focused on the problems, ZPs reviews aren't ever neutral he clearly has a preference of game type and style bless him for being the only reviewer to have a biased reviewing style and be this successful. Everyone who reads ZP will eventually see him review a game that they love and they will get angry (lol). The number of flamed replies this is getting only shows how popular this game is, so congrats SSBB and im looking forward to next weeks review! |
Paperboy  Posts: 34 Joined: 3 Mar 2008 |
That's True. Well being a Fanboy isn't bad as long as they aren't annoying(which sadly they mostly are). I used to be a Nintendo Fanboy, but that was before there were as many options as there are now. Thankfully I wasn't too bad not like some of the people I see on a daily basis. Why can't we all just love all the systems. Wait, that's both expensive and sane. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2391 Joined: 20 Dec 2007  | Lock this, it's just freaking chaotic, go back to zombie role play in OT! |
Copy Clerk Posts: 86 Joined: 25 Apr 2008 |
... I don't speak internet that well...what's this sentence mean? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4939 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
And where is an example of this "Nintendo Bile"? All I've seen is people saying that he was not the sort of person who should have reviewed this game (a fair comment), people saying it wasn't that funny, and anti-Nintendo Bile. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1579 Joined: 13 Sep 2007   |
Not internet speak. It just requires having visited any other part of this website. |
Muckraker  Posts: 244 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 |
Halo fanboys are game-jocks, SSBB fanboys are game-nerds. Both are pretty immature, but I'd have to go with jocks as more annoying, and nerds as more defensive. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 706 Joined: 1 Jan 2008 | This is directed to all Fanboys.Especially SSBB ones.
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Copy Clerk Posts: 86 Joined: 25 Apr 2008 |
Heh. I'd agree with that. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 86 Joined: 25 Apr 2008 |
You couldn't just tell me? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2600 Joined: 21 Jan 2008 |
The average "I love you Yahtzee. I want your children"... so, about 6 pages. Edit:
Nope. If you only come to The Escapist for Yahtzee, then you really don't need to know what this means. Oh, and ElArab, this is quite fun. The RP is kinda slow too... |
Paperboy  Posts: 38 Joined: 10 Jan 2008 | 835 posts. That's gotta be a record for this forum or something. I guess this proves it, Nintendo fanboys are easier to bait than Xbox fanboys. Or maybe it's just that Yahtzee has been around for a bit longer now. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3355 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 |
i would say both are equally easy to bait, but SSBB fans are more involved in actual defense, whereas the average Halo fanboy argues like he plays the game, short bursts, in pairs and for the sheer thrill of the experience, rather than the end result. i say that with admiration, if there's one thing you can say about the Halo crowd, its that they do live in the moment. |
Paperboy  Posts: 37 Joined: 16 Apr 2008 | well here goes everyone who has bummed yahtzee sayin it was another great review is a fanboy of yahtzee its the same every week oh yahtzee such a great review sorry guys and gals he just ain't reviewed it he assumed most of the info bout the game was already biased me i like my 360 and my pc both suit different games not owning a wii i wouldn't know much about the games but it does look like a decent piece of kit and at the end of the day you've got too hand it too nintendo they woulda been all but extinct if the wii hadn't come along as for the fighting games well button bashing yes thought proccesses maybe but it comes down to which games are 4 u and which are not me i dont get gtas i dont find them as enjoyable as other repeated games and lets get onto that subject what games nowadays aren't following another game an rts is an rts build structures build troops take out the bad guys shoot em ups all follow each other call of duty,halo rpgs final fantasys the list goes on basically you fall in love with a series you play the next ones for any slight tweaks new charactors storys maps timeline so on and so forth some times they get better Call of duty 4 sometimes they get worse devil may cry but you still play them if you enjoy what the game is about its all about personal preferance i wont hate other people if they love something because thats them normally tryin to redeem why they bought the game in the first place and or because they are too in love with the game to see its faults |
Muckraker  Posts: 291 Joined: 8 Dec 2007 | Lzdarkangel, I must honestly ask you what the hell you just said and also inquire as to if you've passed out due to lack of air, on account of there being no viewable full stops, commas or other gramatical symbols. What is really troubling me about this thread is that it's full of stupid people, who've actually taken Yahtzee's bait. "OMG lik teh wii rulz! yathzee blohz donkie dic lol!" Seriously, Yahtzee has not created a universal proclam |
To all the Nintendo fanboys, Yahtzee just doesn't like fighting games, get over it.