"This just in: Brawl still shit"

From Yahtzee

Getting mad at Yahtzee for taking a verbal crap on a game you love or vice versa is like getting mad at a shark for biting you. You may not like it, but the shark doesn't care. If it wants to eat you, it's going to do it. Hence his blatant "fuck you" after he gave Portal a perfect score, since it wasn't funny. He has no mercy for anyone, including himself and his beloved "smart, clever adventure games". I respect him for the fact that he hates, but he at least hates everything equally.

General Ma Chao:
I respect him for the fact that he hates, but he at least hates everything equally.

Except QTEs and Jericho.

*continues beating mario over the head a bat*
hehehe >:D

I'm glad Yahtzee stuck it to all the smash fanboys.

That is all.

(Do you have any idea how anal people can become when playing this?)

DennoCoil:
"This just in: Brawl still shit"

From Yahtzee

You're a little late to the party.

"Not much point in writing anything here this week, everyone's already fucked off to their favorite Nintendo forum to talk about how I'm not a 'real' reviewer" - Yahtzee

It's probably been quoted multiple times before in here, but I just can't help but laugh when Yahtzee says Brawl is shit and every Nintendo fanboy from here to Azerbaijan and back the other side of the globe will flame him and lo and behold, in front of me lies over 10,000 posts of flame or comments on flaming, filling 32 pages and counting in less than a week.

Great review! Personal favorite of mine!

I like this game and I still love his review and all the points he made are so valed.
I also feel bad for him, he really should be able to review what ever he wants, because they usually lead to the best reviews, but this is still my favorite. Also, I'm the THAT GUY of my freinds in this game, and I only am because of, you guessed it, Solid Snake.

Wow, these comments are unnecessarily brutal towards SSB, I'm really surprised. Me and my friends have been into Super Smash since the N64 game, and Melee became a staple of our good times together. Brawl has recently taken that spot and we all love it dearly. The story line was amazing, those of you who complain it was too long should maybe realize that it's rather short for almost any game and just seems long because you're not used to it for the SS series. As far as those who call it a button masher, clearly you are button mashers and won't take the time to play the game for more than a few alcohol fueled minutes. Super Smash Bros. Brawl is such a fun experience to sit down and play with friends, I don't know how you can all just jump on the hate wagon train that our good Yahtzee has started rolling. Seriously, you may all hate nintendo fanboys, but you don't even know why...play the game before hating the game.

Marth is from Fire Emblem. He was my best character in Melee, now replaced by Mr. Game and Watch in Brawl. Sonic and Snake were worth waiting for you impatient masses.

Its weird how Yahtzee can do a totally biased review, and then people will call all the people who criticize his judgment Nintendo fanboys, without realizing that well more than half of these posts are poorly spelled praise from Yahtzee fanboys.

Wow a thousand posts, you kids are crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy crap Indigo, do you just sit in the forum, griping and sniping all day? Surely saying the same thing over and over again must get monotonous.

People ought to relax. He was way more brutal to JRPGs, and I love those. It made no difference to me. I'm not going to stop playing them.

Razorgaunt:
Holy crap Indigo, do you just sit in the forum, griping and sniping all day? Surely saying the same thing over and over again must get monotonous.

When did I say this before?

You know people without lives (Like the ones who complain about his reviews) need to remember that there is such a thing as freedom of speech and I think unless you're playing with 10 or more people that Super Smash Brothers sucks so KEEP ON DOIN WHAT YOU DO YAHTZEE!!!!

Wow...Do you guys realize that this is the most posts on ANY of his videos? Come on now. I would think we'd have something better to do then to debase each other over something as silly as Brawl. Yahtzee doesn't like it. Big deal. Move on. There aren't many games he DOES like. I'm more of an avid SSBM player myself and find Brawl just a step backwards in comparison. Things that made Melee good were taken out to make it (and I quote) a "non-tournament game" and "more accessible for the newbies." I'm surprised that so many people are so angry at his review and the people that agree with him. I thought Brawl was going to be terrible FAR before I saw Yahtzee's review just from gameplay videos while all of my friends thought it was going to be amazing and thought I was just "hatin'" on Brawl. It's not my cup of tea, but for those of you who enjoy it, go ahead and do so and stop flaming the people who dislike it because of a personal choice. And for those of you who just wanted to hop on the band wagon, for shame. I would hope that perhaps some of us could make an opinion before someone reviewed it.

Freedom of speech is a two sided coin. People also have the right to complain about what others say. That's still speech. What isn't freedom of speech is when people STOP others from speaking what they believe. People can hate Yahtzee all they want (I thought his brawl review was hilarious and I seriously like Brawl [I'm "That Guy])

I'm a "that guy" too. I play more of a pro-type of Melee. That still doesn't excuse how long this thread has gone on. It's pretty ridiculous at this point. I know people have opinions on what others have to say, but we aren't even going about this in a debate sort of way. It's just arguments being flung onto more arguments. No real points are being made and it seems to me that most of the posts in here right now are just people trying to incite a flame war. Kind of like Arella17's post: "You know people without lives (Like the ones who complain about his reviews) need to remember that there is such a thing as freedom of speech and I think unless you're playing with 10 or more people that Super Smash Brothers sucks so KEEP ON DOIN WHAT YOU DO YAHTZEE!!!!"

I have nothing against a good argument, but this is just sad at this point.

This is true. While everyone is entitled to say what they believe, being illogical and irrational about it isn't going to help the point being made. And those kind of comments have been made on both sides. It goes back to something I said a while ago. "You can just as Fanatically HATE a game as you can like it". The same goes for everything people talk about.

Unfortunately, it is the internet that allows these people to get away with saying things they would (I certainly hope) never say to a real person, normally because it would involve getting hit immediately after, or going to jail.

Plus, anything that goes over 1100 posts TWO WEEKS after it came out when it shouldn't have gone over 300 is insane.

Indeed.

Indigo_Dingo:

Razorgaunt:
Holy crap Indigo, do you just sit in the forum, griping and sniping all day? Surely saying the same thing over and over again must get monotonous.

When did I say this before?

You've been saying the same, "MOST OF THE PEOPLE POSTING IN THIS THREAD ARE ZP FANBOYS" since the review TWO WEEKS AGO. Seriously, I don't care if I get banned for this, but... SHUT UP ALREADY.

the_importer:

To a person who's not into shooters, they're all the same

Well I think that qualifies you as unobservant and clearly not in any possition to comment on FPS's. Having played many, they vary greatly, from GRAW to Quake. Saying they are all the same is like saying you cannot have variations in a genre.

the_importer:
EA holds the record to the most of titles in a franshise, not Nintendo.

Whether you care to admit it or not, EA release such as vast array of different games and genres, how many they release does not affect the quality or repetition. If you seriously think you can draw a similarity between The Sims and Burnout, you clearly have not grasped what I was trying to say.

the_importer:
Halo didn't change as much as you trying to convince yourself it has...Why, because it's a bad idea to try to improve on a formula that works

Yes halo didn't change a great amount but each new one was a genuine continuation and improvement to its predecessor. The storyline flowed and gameplay improved, but the former point being the important issue. Without any storyline SSBB is simply a rehash of previous its predecessors! That is not a step forward in the game industry, as its the same game, just with tweaked graphics and a different pad.

the_importer:
When Nintendo goes around and change the concept of Link defeating Ganon and rescuing the Princess, fans don't enjoy the game as much. Do you think Halo Fans would love it if Halo 4 was a war fought against mutants or robots instead of Aliens as the main enemies, of course not.

Yes I do think halo fans would like to see a difference. Mainly because it's not the difference that would upset fans, it's if the storyline was garbage, something Nintendo fan(boy)s tend to ignore just because it has their favorites Link or Mario in.

the_importer:
Franchises stay the same, end of story, if you can't accept it, you're a fanboy. The only time that I will ever accept someone using the "It's the same game defense" to put down a title is when that person never plays a sequel.

If something does not improve or adapt it will die out. Simple business. Look at Nintendo. They have been falling ever since the N64. Spurred on by initially good sales, after about a year, their games and consoles are seen as being the same and dated. Hence the reason buying a new Gamecube is exceptionally difficult. Also if you really think someone who has never played a game, even a sequel, has a valid opinion on it, you are clearly wrong.

the_importer:

And Zelda games are set in different land settings of Hyrule in most games and not one element of the story is ever the same besides the role of Link, Zelda and Ganon. You have no point there either.

Again though, there is no variation in the storyline, just a new place with Zelda. Princess goes missing, Gannon involved, fetch. If all the GTA's had the same main character and same basic storyline then maybe you could say they were too similar. But they don't. As for Gran Turismo, read carefully, it's a racing simulation. Therefore improvements are vital to how the came plays and more importantly, imitates driving. Can you really say the same over any Nintendo franchise?

the_importer:

Maybe people just got fucking sick and tired of WW2 games, I mean how many times can you reenact an historical event before getting tired of it. Or maybe the war in Iraq is a bit closer to home for current gamers

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No, MoH has gone downhill since the third, play them and find out, or read the reviews. As for Iraq, that really doesn't make sense after CoD4 has done so well.

the_importer:
Nintendo, Bungie, RockStar, they're all the same...You're a new generation gamer (PSX era) who finds any old franchises to be repetitive just because they're old but in reality, you buy sequels of your favorite "more recent" franchises

Clearly you need to play the games made by Bungie and Rockstar that your commenting about. The essential difference is that Nintendo does not change the storyline or gameplay of their games. In contrast, Rockstar and Bungie are advancing, trying to perfect their genres, Nintendo is stuck in the past. I do not hate sequels, as long as they actually are good, and not 'more of the same'. For example the expansions to F.E.A.R. are just repetitive and not an advancement from the original. Halo had the ongoing storyline, GTA brings new plots with different characters. Not the same storyline with the same characters. The reason I loathe Nintendo is because I feel that they, or more precisely, the fanboys, are holding back the games industry from advancing and developing new games and genres as fanboys love 'more of the same'.

Wow...........32 pages of dross not worth my time to read. This goes to show that N-fanboys will do ANYTHING to be heard. No matter how many sites they are banned from for life. And yes, SSBB is 'fun' but it isnt Portal. What were they expecting, a rave reveiw from a person who had to wait a millenium before getting this game (Australian Release dates are as horrible as he says, I looked them up.)

Yahtzee has some good points in this review
but im still going to buy this game

Two kinds of fan boys duking it out here:

Nintendo-Tards.

Yahtzee Brown-Nosers.

I'm as disappointed with the bastardization of the SSB series as any other serious gamer.
And I'm as disgusted by the Yahtzee ass kissing as any normal gamer that realizes he just "jumped the shark" with this video.

SSBB isn't nearly as ground breaking as the original was, and it's even MORE over-done than Melee was.

Instant K.O.s are BS, everyone knows that. Cool characters required to be unlocked sucks ass, everyone knows that.

Everything you can say about SSBB is obvious, because it's practically a kids game, anyway.

ill take the wild assumption that yahtzee won't check this but could someone let him know that there's a mother three fan translation at "www.mother3.fobby.net/.com"

thanks :D

Well everyone, Since so much (finger quote) useful time has been spent on this comment section i'd finally like to try and attempt to stop the madness.

If you do not like Yahtzee's review on this game, good for you. If your trying to change peoples minds on a Forum or Comment section of a video review, you ain't. Sounds hyprocritical of me but im just trying to help those who stressed out over things like these.

P.S. Sorry for the spelling.

"What does the computer say about the number of fanboy posts?"

"It's over ONE THOUUUSSSAAAANNNDDDDD!"

Hey Apples:
Dang, I was hoping he'd tell us who the fuck Marth is, because even I don't know.

I think he's from Fire Emblem. I know he goes hand in hand with Roy and Ike, and I know he's in a Japanese game that hasn't hit the states (or anywhere outside of Japan as far as I'm aware) yet. Hence his little victory speech in Japanese.

Marth is from Fire Emblem, a supposedly hardcore tactical RPG that really made itself known after Marth and Roy were introduced in Melee. I say 'supposedly' because I've never played the original, just Radiant Dawn, because like most games from that part of the world it never leaves the J-Pop polluted streets of Tokyo without every screaming fanboy (with his nose buried so deep into four-year-old DBZ manga you could've sworn it was a permanent Goku tatoo, of course) on the U.S. mainland calling for the blue-haired boy with the same haircut as my sister.

Maybe I'm being a bit too harsh, for Radiant Dawn did prove that the concept the series was derived from was indeed 'hardcore' and intuitive, and I don't really hate the Japanese and otaku(s?), even if personally I couldn't say if the lot of them shared these feelings, but now let's get to what I wanted to talk about:

If I could speak on the behalf of every inbred, balding primate hiding in their cellars, flailing their Wii remotes and Nintendo-emblem bearing T-shirts like fratboys at a Halo 3 game fest, I'd apologize for being such a self-righteous ass; luckily, I'm not one of them. However, Yahtzee, I am sorry that you had to suffer what must've been a literal tome of hatemail from some people who no doubt have been on the losing side of a Tic-Tac-Toe match with a chicken at some point, when they can find out how to scratch out the lines in the dirt.

Sadly enough..... I just made this account to post.....

Yahtzee is right. If your not enthralled into the SSB gamedom already, then you aren't going to become enthralled with it anytime soon. I enjoy the game, and my boyfriend plays competitively online, but we agreed with Yahtzee even though he tore the game limb from limb..... in fact for me that part was enjoyable.

Heh, the vitriol keeps flowing... reading these comments isn't as entertaining as the video, but it is still better than most of the other drivel on the internet.
Maybe Yahtzee can review our 3 presidential candidates (in the U.S.)

MrSod:

Maybe Yahtzee can review our 3 presidential candidates (in the U.S.)

Or maybe he could take a tesla coil covered in Whale semen and rape my throat with it, same result.

wow, that was sudden even for me, i apologize, beg your forgiveness and finish by saying that the only thing less interesting than the results of the U.S election is watching paint dry on the acting talent of Hayden Christensen.