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FuZionDCA
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA..... FUCK YEAH!

Now THIS is what I call journalism. I haven't pissed myself laughing like this for a very long time. You sir are a fucking genius!!!

Love of love, FuZion.

mspencer82
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I was a little disappointed that there wasn't a review this week, but I think this video contained a lot of things that needed to be said. Honestly, I don't get why certain people get so defensive because someone out there doesn't like something they think is "the shit".

"How can you even call them reviews without a score?"

I can't believe someone actually said that. First of all, I think the second worst thing to ever happen to reviews is the numerical score. The WORST thing is the watering down of scores. Think about it, right now games all tend to fall in the 6-10 range. Ten being totally fucking sweet, six being shit. Seven used to be an average score, now if a reviewer dares to give a game a seven they get hate mail.

Say a game gets that coveted 10, then what? It's considered perfect, and any game that comes after it that has the misfortune of getting a 9 is considered "not as good". Thanks to a bunch of asshole reviewers, every game released in the next five years is going to be compared to Grand Theft Auto IV, regardless of genre.

The review system is broken. Games aren't judged by their merits anymore, they're judged by the arbitrary number the review tacks onto it.

WHATISUTUBE
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Ishinken:
Ohhhhh damn poor stupid Nintendo-boys there are out there. I can smell their burnt brain cells from all the way over here.

I can picture you saying that while high fiving your friend and then commenting on how awesome the 360 is. You gotta understand, Yahtzee takes out the worst letters and makes fun of them. I'm sure there were actually some well thought out letters in there (futile, of course)

Look, it was funny and I liked it and all, but I'm really getting tired of Brawl, both on the internet and real life.

and lol at the white enough comment, but I disagree with the most balanced generation comment. Srsly, the 360 has the most "alright I guess I'll rent it" games and the Wii has like 3 gems with all the minigames while the PS3 has...well, I don't know.

Can we move on?

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BrunDeign:

I agree with the people who said things similar to this for the most part. SSBB was awesome for me, but I still laughed my ass off at Yahtzee's review. My point still stands though. If he's going to do things like this anymore, I might just leave. I come here to find out whether a game is ok or not and laugh. I DON'T come here to listen to him complain (or whatever he does in this one) about hate mail. Only one of my wants will be satisfied then. What I'm saying is this:

The point of these videos originally was to review games and make people laugh. By throwing in this video he has added this one ingredient to the great stew and almost turned it into shit stew. One more of these and Zero Punctuation will no longer have its original greatness.

Has he even done a DS game review yet?

Leave then. Why do people on the internet act as if their mere presence on a site is something to be worshipped and cherished?

If you don't like what Yahtzee is doing, or think it "used to be better", don't bitch and rant about it endlessly on the forum, just leave.

HamHamHam
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Uszi:
Meh, as someone who tried to defend the game from Yahtzee's review a bit back, I can say that I found this genuinely hilarious.

That's important because Yahtzee was able to answer criticisms without alienating his own fan base---though heaven knows if he really wants us around anyway!

He doesn't want fanboys around, he's made that abundantly clear.

Yahtzee's fanbase consists of people who are tired of ignorant fanboys infesting the internet, and who enjoy seeing them get their asses handed to them.

Are you honestly so naive that you think anyone even CARES about your opinion on a videogame? A word of advice: they don't.

Actually Yahtzee seems to have an abundance of his own fanboys, there has been a wealth of comments in this thread that dwarf the letters he reviewed in terms of stupidity.

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WHATISUTUBE:

Ishinken:
Ohhhhh damn poor stupid Nintendo-boys there are out there. I can smell their burnt brain cells from all the way over here.

I can picture you saying that while high fiving your friend and then commenting on how awesome the 360 is. You gotta understand, Yahtzee takes out the worst letters and makes fun of them. I'm sure there were actually some well thought out letters in there (futile, of course)

Look, it was funny and I liked it and all, but I'm really getting tired of Brawl, both on the internet and real life.

Can we move on?

Why do the forum gnomes always think that their personal preferences determine the course of reality?

Yahtzee isn't doing this for YOU. Get that in your skull. If you have such a problem with what he's doing and feel the need to whine about it on the internet, why not send him some hatemail, and you might be lucky enough to be one of the morons Yahtzee ridicules in his next review.

renard
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pacee21:
im not sure whether that reply means you liked or detested the review. As you call me a butthurted reviewer for posting that i like the review

1- I called yahtzee a butthurted reviewer, not you
2- I loved the SSBB review because he points out a lot of flaws the game has.
3- I didn't liked this one.

Patronizing:

He would say a lot of things, none of them polite. If you no longer like Yahtzee's humor, know that he isn't going to change it on your account. And pissing off the people that do like the humor isn't going to help your case.

Hey do you know where we are? yeah it's a forum. A place where people can give their opinion.
So, please, stop behaving like a yahtzee-fanboy and let me opine whatever I want about this "review", ok?

Oh, And I said I yahtzee whas maturer. I never talked about myself.

The Rogue Wolf
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This week on Zero Punctuation, Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw reviews... us!

Pros: Keeps those Internet hits up so Yahtzee can feel like a valid human being

Cons: Vomits regularly into Internet forums and mailboxes and expects to be taken seriously

Overall score: 4 out of ∞

--

Seriously, as someone who came of age in the days of the NES and the Sega Master System (both of which I owned), the whole console fanboyism issue is as old as dirt as far as I'm concerned. It's just an extension of common human conceit- "what I like is the best, you are stupid for not liking it, and what you like should fail because I don't like it". That's not to say that you can't find it in my chosen realm, PC gaming; witness "AMD vs. Intel", "nVidia vs. ATI", and so on. I'd say Yahtzee pinned it down pretty squarely- this current generation of consoles is one of the most balanced yet, and just about any sort of game is possible these days... but of course, you have that crowd who think every game released should be a clone of Halo 3, GTA IV, Final Fantasy VII or The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy (I might just be imagining that last one, though). Fanboyism will go away at about the time we can depend on the majority of the population not to act like drooling morons.

You can hold your breath if you want to. Blue really isn't my color. ;)

xing110222
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hey yahtzee do u play cod4???

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HamHamHam:

Actually Yahtzee seems to have an abundance of his own fanboys, there has been a wealth of comments in this thread that dwarf the letters he reviewed in terms of stupidity.

In YOUR opinion, which we've already established is entirely insignificant and meaningless. Nobody cares what anonymous forum posters on the internet think.

If you don't enjoy the reviews, why are you people even here? Do you have nothing better to do than endlessly discuss the finer ramifications of Yahtzee's latest review on internet forums?

He makes fun of morons like you without cease and you still never get the message.

ashakura
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Quite an amazing review, but then it's always fun to watch retards being destroyed by someone who spends most of his time doing just that. I love console wars and fan-boyz, largely because I own none of the consoles, and merely enjoying them at all my fanboy friends' houses.

To summarise, I give this review the score of pi.

Raz1717
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Perfect!

HamHamHam
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Patronizing:

HamHamHam:

Actually Yahtzee seems to have an abundance of his own fanboys, there has been a wealth of comments in this thread that dwarf the letters he reviewed in terms of stupidity.

In YOUR opinion, which we've already established is entirely insignificant and meaningless. Nobody cares what anonymous forum posters on the internet think.

If you don't enjoy the reviews, why are you people even here? Do you have nothing better to do than endlessly discuss the finer ramifications of Yahtzee's latest review on internet forums?

He makes fun of morons like you without cease and you still never get the message.

You seem to be replying to a lot of things I didn't even say, hurray for you.

WHATISUTUBE
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Patronizing:
you might be lucky enough to be one of the morons Yahtzee ridicules in his next review.

I FOOK'D YOR MOM WOT WOT

yeah. I thought the point of the thread was to comment, not praise.

and yeah, I fucked up a quFIX'D

Indoolio
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I like how no matter what Yahtzee says, there's a group of fans who rabidly encourage him and talk about how he's the greatest thing ever.

On a COMPLETELY unrelated note, any of you familiar with the term irony?

Kaos Incarnate
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Patronizing:

HamHamHam:

Actually Yahtzee seems to have an abundance of his own fanboys, there has been a wealth of comments in this thread that dwarf the letters he reviewed in terms of stupidity.

In YOUR opinion, which we've already established is entirely insignificant and meaningless. Nobody cares what anonymous forum posters on the internet think.

If you don't enjoy the reviews, why are you people even here? Do you have nothing better to do than endlessly discuss the finer ramifications of Yahtzee's latest review on internet forums?

He makes fun of morons like you without cease and you still never get the message.

Wow making sure no-one can post their opinion, yet allowing yourself to post your own. I'm sure Yahtzee can defend himself.

PedroSteckecilo
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Well Played Indeed. While I disagree with some of your reviews (Your hatred of JRPG's and Uncharted: Drakes Fortune most notably, but as I am obsessed with pulpy-action-adventure and tend to overlook its vague racism because of that, I cannot be called objective) they ALL make valid points about some of the major flaws inherent in so called masterpieces. I personally loved Brawl, but your review explains why YOU didn't like it, and that makes perfect bloody sense in context. Great commentary on the console wars by the way.

StormDragoness
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Next one, just to be fair, as well as just, one for all the most obnoxious praise.

tendo82
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The most interesting thing about Yahtzee is that he is the first videogame reviewer with a public persona, and this kind of discourse with his viewers helps to strengthen it. This is a significant step forward because it ascribes necessary importance to the reviewer, as opposed to remaining the faceless text generators reviewers currently are.

It also happened to be a funny edition of Zero Punctuation.

Crap_haT
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Made me laugh a lot, you people take his reviews to heart don't you. He made valid points about Brawl and you go ape shiting crazy.

Can't wait for the GTA review, I absoltley loved it; but I can't bring myself to play it again, the end annoyed the fuck out of me. Well... I think I will go play it again acctually. GAH!

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Kaos Incarnate:
Wow making sure no-one can post their opinion, yet allowing yourself to post your own. I'm sure Yahtzee can defend himself.

As people like you prove, you CAN post your opinion. All I do is tell you that nobody gives a shit. You have to admit it's true and it always will be. Even if some of the other forum gnomes care what one forum gnome says, THEIR opinions are worthless as well. If your opinion is only shown on an internet forum, it's worthless. The real world won't change no matter how much people bitch here.

And renard says that forums are a place for people with too much time on their hands to post their meaningless opinions?

What a waste of time. The only thing forums like this ARE useful for is having their moronic denizens being ridiculed by people like Yahtzee.

renard
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Patronizing:
In YOUR opinion, which we've already established is entirely insignificant and meaningless. Nobody cares what anonymous forum posters on the internet think.

If you don't enjoy the reviews, why are you people even here? Do you have nothing better to do than endlessly discuss the finer ramifications of Yahtzee's latest review on internet forums?

And you? Do you have nothing better to do than endlessly repeat that nobody gives a fuck? Did anyone ask you to tell the truth, oh yer ol' prophet? It seems not since you haven't stopped acting like a twat whose ego can't let him stop posting on this thread banning the rights of people to opine.
Seriously sir, you aren't much different than the people is writting here.

BrunDeign:
I DON'T come here to listen to him complain (or whatever he does in this one) about hate mail. Only one of my wants will be satisfied then. What I'm saying is this:

The point of these videos originally was to review games and make people laugh. By throwing in this video he has added this one ingredient to the great stew and almost turned it into shit stew. One more of these and Zero Punctuation will no longer have its original greatness.

Has he even done a DS game review yet?

+1

And yes, he reviewed phantom hourglas and say it was shit.

gregpolk
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A few comments.

1. Was at first dissapointed to find Yahtzee hating on wankers instead of a review of GTA4 as I suspected it would be, but a top effort anyway. I had a good laugh.

2. On the topic of SSBB not being the best game ever I have to agree, and I'm stuck with a pile of fanboys as friends who would kill me if they saw this. I don't dislike the game, I just don't think it's that great. Sure the single player campaign was pretty cool, and a lot of fun to bash through with a mate. But the game is all about the multiplayer, that's what its built for, and everytime I have mates around I find myself begging them to let me put on Mario Kart 64 after I've wallopped them for the 5th game in a row. I guess at least theres the satisfaction of being able to destroy my fanboy friends with any character.

SystemWarrior
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Admittedly I was a little dubious of this review since it's not really about a game, but having seen it I must say, if I could sex anything on the internets, it would have to be this.

Anton P. Nym
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WHATISUTUBE:
You gotta understand, Yahtzee takes out the worst letters and makes fun of them. I'm sure there were actually some well thought out letters in there (futile, of course)

Look, it was funny and I liked it and all, but I'm really getting tired of Brawl, both on the internet and real life.

Can we move on?

I'm taking a risk here, as I haven't seen the "review" yet (no Flash on this computer), but I can guarantee that Yahtzee didn't have to pick the worst. I've seen fanboi-hatemail, and the absolute worst wouldn't make it because they'd be entirely unintelligible save for a few misspelt curse words and perhaps an offensive item hotlinked from ebaumsworld. There's probably a few reasonable ones in the pile, too, but trust me on this; the depth of idiocy on the Internets is truly unfathomable, and it's likely the sample was selected for comedic value but still somewhat representative of what arrived in his inbox.

I'll point out that Yahtzee taking on the haterz is hardly a shocking novelty; I'm deeply in the Bungie fan community, and they've been putting up Letters to the Webmaster for years now... and, more recently, the Waaaahmbulance for those who've been under the banhammer. I suspect other communities do the same... and hopefully this will work the same way, in pointing out to the vitriolic that they're not immune to the ridicule they try to dish out and thereby slightly decrease the volume of incoming bile.

So, though I often disagree with Yahtzee's reviews, I eagerly look forward to them every Wednesday and I'll catch this one tonight as soon as I get on a computer that isn't powered by hamsters and rubber bands.

-- Steve

PS: I too would like it if the Brawlfen and Brawlhaterz would let it rest.

PhatSeeJay
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Ok I had t o register to say this; Fuck yes!

Reviewing fan boys was your most briliant piece yet!
Couldn't stop laughing

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I'm not banning anyone's right to anything, I'm telling you that your opinions are worthless, and you can't respond to that, because they ARE.

I didn't come here to argue with an illiterate forum moron who doesn't have anything else to do. I came here to see people like you being revealed as idiots by Yahtzee, and your incessant whining only makes it more amusing.

WHATISUTUBE
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Kaos Incarnate:

He makes fun of morons like you without cease and you still never get the message.

Wow making sure no-one can post their opinion, yet allowing yourself to post your own. I'm sure Yahtzee can defend himself.

As people like you prove, you CAN post your opinion. All I do is tell you that nobody gives a shit.[/quote]

How far in was the Brawl thread? 14, 15, 20 pages?

The fact that he took the time to read his mailbag says otherwise...I think.

Look, I don't care if our opinions matter or not, we're just using this thread for what it was intended to be used as. Opinions opinions opinions.

and apparently, the bad ones piss you off, but thanks for taking the time to read them! I guess you truly don't care if you take the time to respond to them (you're in a check mate there)

HamHamHam
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Patronizing:
I'm not banning anyone's right to anything, I'm telling you that your opinions are worthless, and you can't respond to that, because they ARE.

But thats your opinion, which is worthless, so our opinions do count?

Kaos Incarnate
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Patronizing:

As people like you prove, you CAN post your opinion. All I do is tell you that nobody gives a shit. You have to admit it's true and it always will be. Even if some of the other forum gnomes care what one forum gnome says, THEIR opinions are worthless as well. If your opinion is only shown on an internet forum, it's worthless. The real world won't change no matter how much people bitch here.

And renard says that forums are a place for people with too much time on their hands to post their meaningless opinions?

What a waste of time. The only thing forums like this ARE useful for is having their moronic denizens being ridiculed by people like Yahtzee.

Everything we post shows an opinion, everything we say shows our opinion. Even the way we act shows a certain degree of opinion. I can agree with you the majority of people won't care about it but, you can't say "Don't come here to post your pointless opinions" otherwise Yahtzee would have to stop his reviews

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WHATISUTUBE:

The fact that he took the time to read his mailbag says otherwise...I think.

Look, I don't care if our opinions matter or not, we're just using this thread for what it was intended to be used as. Opinions opinions opinions.

and apparently, the bad ones piss you off, but thanks for taking the time to read them! I guess you truly don't care if you take the time to respond to them (you're in a check mate there)

You "think" wrong, as I would expect. He didn't read his mailbag, he just knew that there were tons of idiots out there who would inevitably take offense.

Nobody cares about your worthless opinions, except OTHER losers with too much time on their hands, and THEIR opinions are equally useless. You're in a catch 22 here, and the only answer is to stop wasting your time with it.

I respond to your pathetic posts only because they're so hilarious that to not do so would be heresy.

But soon enough, your whining and bitching will stop being amusing and turn to being annoying.

I Mav I
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Great Video.

I must admit the other week i was a little miffed at Yahtzee's treatment of the game. Now before I continue i must also admit that i have yet to play it so i can't really claim Brawl to be good or bad either way so i wont even try.

It's just that me and my mates played the Gamecube version, winner stays on round robin, for about 5 hours straight back in the day so i find it hard to beleive that more of the same with added everything to be a bad thing. So with his review i even jokingly came to the conclusion that Yahtzee doesn't even know how to have fun with games (i mean lets face it, as fantastic as Silent Hill 2 is its hardly a jolly lark is it?).

But you know what? I disagreed with the guy. So fucking what? There's a first time for everything and what does one mans opinion really matter? It's amazing that people can spew out so much vitriol to defend what they love. As long as you love it does it really matter? It doesn't matter if your the only person in the world who enjoyed Barbie's Horse Adventure, if you love it then fucking play it! (you freak)

Anyways, this is a kind of long winded way of showing my appreciation for Yahtzee's work despite the fact that he irritated me with his unrelented battering of a game that probably doesn't deserve it (though as i said before i can't yet be sure). Keep up the good work my friend and lets hope your irritating people well into the next year.

And yes GTA IV is long...

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Kaos Incarnate:

Everything we post shows an opinion, everything we say shows our opinion. Even the way we act shows a certain degree of opinion. I can agree with you the majority of peole won't care about it but, you can't say "Don't come here to post your pointless opinions" otherwise Yahtzee would have to stop his reviews

No, because people DO care about what Yahtzee says. There's a difference between someone who has actually made a name for himself in the world and the hordes of no-lifes who post on internet forums.

Anyone out there who is successful in life and has a reputation, their opinion matters to people. But the opinions of anonymous forum fools are completely worthless.

devilzs30
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renard:
I thought yahtzee was maturer than all those childish fanboys who sent him hatemail. Paraphrasing the TF2 spy: "well... this was a dissapointment..."

Let's hope next tuesday yahtzee comes back with a proper review and not this whining about how much hatemail he gets...

You know what? In my opinion, I think what Yahtzee did for this week is an extension for his GTA IV review next week, which he stated he needs a bit more time. This week's "Showdown" shows Yahtzee either care about the people who wait for his review every week and don't want to disappoint them, or the editor told him to make one up no matter what or he'll get fired.

So please don't blame him for not doing good, I'm sure he has his reasons.

By the way, I actually like this one than the "God of War: Chains of Olympus" review last week, and the "Sim City Societies" review as well.

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HamHamHam:

But thats your opinion, which is worthless, so our opinions do count?

Why have I come to expect nothing but idiocy from you?

My opinion as an anonymous internet poster is meaningless, yes. I'm glad you have FINALLY grasped this concept.

But it is not MY opinion that your opinions are all worthless. It is fact. Say whatever you want on these forums, it will result in NOTHING HAPPENING in the real world. If your opinion actually MEANS anything, then your opinion will result in something DIFFERENT happening in the real world.

If the President of the United States wants something done, whatever he wants done happens.

If YOU or any other loser forum gnome want something done, NOTHING happens. See the difference?

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