MRMIdAS2k:
Whats wrong with a proper unlock system? Beat the game with one character to unlock the next one, or combinations of characters?

Clear Classic Mode with 10 Characters to unlock sonic.
clear classic mode under 12 minutes to unlock captain falcon
fight 5 brawls to unlock ness
fight 15 brawls on shadow mosses to unlock snake
fight 22 brawls to unlock luigi
clear classic mode under normal difficulty with zelda or under hard difficulty with link to unlock ganondorf
etc, etc, etc...

I see some porper unlock system here, if you ask me...

Of course he will, he'll find it's weaknesses and expose them for all there worth.

Thank you Yahtzee, thank you. ;)

"Need more time to play GTA4."
I accept this as very true, and am not disapointed to hear it.
I am surprised however that you gaved under troll pressure and addressed them. You did wonderful in cock slapping them, nevertheless.

I have to say that I don't like this review.
I thought, as a paid critic, you'd do your job and review games.
I was looking forward to another bashing of some new game that fanboys love.
I do, however, like the gaming system comparison.
Hopefully you'll review an actual game next time.

Whoo insulting the tards! Go Yahtzee!

and yeah it's the new generation of gamers kinda do suck balls a little I mean there are people who played games all their life, then theres people who can't game for crap and think since they can beat the samey cartoony crap games Nintendo seems to spew out on a daily basis, they are far supirior to 'real' gamers (Feh Angery Nerd = me)and thus they spam you to death with the most enjoyable hate mail, whenever you say what most good gamers are thinking

Pardon my poor Grammer.

Yahtzee is the funniest human being alive! This episode was hysterical. Thanks for a lol-filled lunchbreak.

And I totally agree about console system crusaders - they act like if the world doesnt unanimously agree that their purchase was indeed the correct one, blood will be shed. I started off as a PC gamer back when regular nintendo was being birthed, and even then thought console systems were lame. To this day, console games are still a black hole for your wallet which returns garbage gimmik cheapass quality games (sometimes with some flashy graphics, although not as flashy as something ull see on a decent pc).

While I was disappointed with the SSBB review for my own reasons (not having played the game and with no intention to bother buying it anytime soon), the responses remarked on here were pretty validly in need of criticism and I get that this video was probably thrown together to buy time while Yahtzee finishes GTA4 so I wasn't as disappointed by it as I thought I would be.

For the record though, I still feel the SSBB review was still an unwarranted preemptive attack on people who like the game rather than a review of the shortcomings of the game in and of itself, so I need to clarify that this mailbag video certainly does nothing to change that impression even though the points raised were certainly in need of addressing.
Certainly accusing Yahtzee of sucking at the game and not liking it for that reason is a pretty lame retort to make, and raving that he missed the point of the game by failing to play a multiplayer with friends is outright false since as he reminds us here he did play the bloody game with friends and criticising certain issues in that regards was one of the few things he actually did do well in that video (the whole having to spend so much time unlocking content that you become 'that guy' for instance).

So not a particularly entertaining week in the Zero Punctuation chronicles, but as far as filler goes I think we can live with it. I'm sure we'll get a thorough assraping of GTA4 next week that will re-establish the balance and make this whole ugly affair blow over.

Unless of course Yahtzee actually likes the game enough to overlook the flaws.

...

Yeah, you're right, what was I thinking?

Great review, one of the best, putting the fanboys in their place!

Edderz1989:
Of course he will, he'll find it's weaknesses and expose them for all there worth.

But then again as the review says he needs more time to play it...now surely if he hated it he wouldn't bother playing it properly like his Mass Effect review...could the fact that he's taking more time mean he actually likes it? *face shows fear*

Drake Flare:
Whoo insulting the tards! Go Yahtzee!

and yeah it's the new generation of gamers kinda do suck balls a little I mean there are people who played games all their life, then theres people who can't game for crap and think since they can beat the samey cartoony crap games Nintendo seems to spew out on a daily basis, they are far supirior to 'real' gamers (Feh Angery Nerd = me)and thus they spam you to death with the most enjoyable hate mail, whenever you say what most good gamers are thinking

Pardon my poor Grammer.

Technically the Smash Bros. series (which consists of three games so far) is quite young compared to the Zelda and Mario series and what ever series are on the other consoles. Then again you seem to think Nintendo is the only one sticking to something everyone loves.

I Mav I:

But then again as the review says he needs more time to play it...now surely if he hated it he wouldn't bother playing it properly like his Mass Effect review...could the fact that he's taking more time mean he actually likes it? *face shows fear*

... Somehow, I don't think so.

Drake Flare:
Whoo insulting the tards! Go Yahtzee!

and yeah it's the new generation of gamers kinda do suck balls a little I mean there are people who played games all their life, then theres people who can't game for crap and think since they can beat the samey cartoony crap games Nintendo seems to spew out on a daily basis, they are far supirior to 'real' gamers (Feh Angery Nerd = me)and thus they spam you to death with the most enjoyable hate mail, whenever you say what most good gamers are thinking

Pardon my poor Grammer.

Here, have your ration of gunmetal grey and dogshit brown desaturated mature rated game.

I Mav I:

Edderz1989:
Of course he will, he'll find it's weaknesses and expose them for all there worth.

But then again as the review says he needs more time to play it...now surely if he hated it he wouldn't bother playing it properly like his Mass Effect review...could the fact that he's taking more time mean he actually likes it? *face shows fear*

From personal experience, GTA IV isn't one of those games that you can really get a grasp of in only one week. I've been playing for a week and just yesterday discovered something new. Or it could be that he's only playing it for one or two hours a day because he just can't stand much more than that......like me.

coredump:

EnoRed:
I think more people should consider listening to what Yahtzee said about not getting upset over the fact a reviewer doesn't like a game that you do, as you shouldn't let their opinions dictate your own. That includes the people who suddenly came out the woodwork after the SSBB review going "LOLLOLOL STOOPID NINTY FANBOIS I TOLD EM IT WASNT GOOD IT SUX AND UR ALL STUPID".

They should perhaps take a look at their own behaviour and see that they're essentially doing the exact same thing; latching onto a critic's opinion because they feel it makes their own point of view somehow more valid. These people completely miss the point and turn into fanboys themselves by imposing their own opinions as if they are fact.

What's more pathetic: blindly following Nintendo and accepting whatever games they toss our way or giving a virtual handjob to some random guy out of the millions on the internet?

To answer your question, blindly following Nintendo. At least I like Yahtzee.

And I had a big long post detailing how you were dumb, then I realize that was going to make dumb. So I'm just going to call you names instead. Faghat.

edit: Jesus, I meant to quote the post, and forgot to. And this shit has grown so quickly I've lost it. DAMMMMNNN.

In other words you have no argument whatsoever and instead felt it somehow made you appear smarter by taking a cocky attitude and generally acting like a twat.

By the way, what the fuck does "then I realize that was going to make dumb" mean? You can start calling people idiots when you can actually type out a proper sentence that doesn't change tenses constantly.

I was saying that more people should listen to what Yahtzee says from both angles. If you're a fan of the game and he insults it then big deal. Just move on and forget about it. On the other side of the spectrum if you too hate the game, just because he shares your opinion doesn't somehow make your point of view any more valid. He's just another guy on the internet like you; it just so happen he gets money for it.

It's also amusing how so many people are going "HAHA LOL DUMB FANBOIZZZ GUD JOB YAHTZEE U UTTER LEGEND!!" with terrible spelling and grammar, both of which Yahtzee mocked in his video.

"yellow eye"

Whoa dude, you should get that looked at by a doctor.
Could be a sign of jaundice...

...it would explain the bile problems. ;)

Idiot stretched the page D<

Great as always (Do you really need us to tell you that? It's a pretty superfluous statement as almost everything you do can be put under "fantastic.")

I especially liked the 1984-references; don't be shy of showing the intellectual side of yourself. ;)

Keep up the good work.

I actually agree with yahtzee compltely in his review. For the most part I never jugde a game on based on other peoples review or movies at that because for the most part hmm let me think there taste and idea of a great game might be completly diffrent then yours! I actually enjoy his critics not just for his animations but because he does bring up valid points on many games both flaws and points of praise. He though it was a wonderful idea for a fight to be held where mario cold beat peach senseless for me that was link and zelda but for the most part yea the unlocking charcters part sucked. For the past games you unlocked mostly by doing events an then fighting with friends for so long an then you get someone. this one you kinda trailed along the longgg story mode until you find someone random and they joined you. don't get me wrong I like the story mode movies and concept but the same old enimies and repeating the same level two to three times kinda got to me after a while. All in yahtzee brings his own unique kind of criticing to the table even his animations he doesn't use a score board which I appericate halo was given a 9 out of ten on many score boards I probaly would have given a 4 that's my opion. but he choices to list say and show which is rare why he likes or dislikes it in his review which animaions it suppose to make you laugh but he also show's his valid points. But to all of you who probaly rant on and on about how he's dumb or whichever here's a wonderfu idea go to accounts hit delete and stop wacthing his reviews

Sentient:
To be honest, Yahtzee wouldn't have got half the complaints about his review of SSBB if he:

1) Didn't review it in the first place because he didn't want to.
2) Found some actual faults in the game instead of pathetically making some non-existant ones up.
3) Actually played the damn game for more than one drunken night.

I can name a few faults in SSBB, but unlike Yahtzee's complaints, mine are legitimate and actually exist, and I haven't even played the sodding game. So this latest Zero Punctuation was basically him trying to defend himself against dozens of people who were angry at him for giving SSBB not just a bad review, but a bad review highlighting non-existant faults, and personally, I don't blame those people one bit.

Yahtzee, (being the game reviewer we all know he is and wants to be) undoubtedly played the game for more then one night. He just happened to be using it as an example. People tend to forget that everyone has the right to not like something, but just as many people forget that others have the right TO like something.

Yahtzee obviously didn't like SSBB (which I did) and just as obviously didn't like Halo 3 (which I also did). On both forums, people spent a few good days (or two weeks in the former's case) going back and forth calling the other fanboys. While they have the right to do this, it doesn't make it any less annoying for those who are actually here to "Discuss" ZP.

Though in all honesty, I can't for the life of me understand why we need to discuss this. It's not like Yahtzee have deep hidden messages, or is leading us on till "next weeks exciting adventure". It's just a review, something just as easily discusses over the phone, or on an Email/Chatroom, or a PM.

It seems the only thing this is here for is to praise Yahtzee (which I suppose can be construed as a legitimate reason) or to yell at passersby (which seems to happen most often).

ooops, an error

Blimey...i would be very interested in finding out why thats the case...

Although I wish I could have seen a game get skewered on the twin blades of wit and cynicism, this video still was funny and enlightening as usual. Yahztee's points were valid. While he has his own opinions on them - such as in Mass Effect - he tries to appraise games fairly and will admit that someone else might enjoy a given game when he might not. I've wondered why Yahtzee often kowtows to the request like he does (he'd admitted several times in the past the collective bitching pisses him off), but the appeal professionalism over indulgence is a legitimate defense.

While seeing him review interesting and diverse game titles as his tastes would see fit would be neat, appealing to the Escapist's audience now and then might be a good way to boost the site's hits and keep the Zero Punctuation feature from stagnating. Yahtzee's attitudes towards numerical ratings is also appreciated. A numerical value might be worthwhile for evaluating averages or calculating standard deviations, but the appraisal of video games is an art rather than a science.

What parts of the game make it enjoyable, innovative, appealing, intelligent? Do you give a shit when Alyx Vance lies comatose? Do you get frustrated when both of Fable's endings are essentially the same bloody title card with different shading and a slightly tweaked voiceover? X out of Y stars, thumbs up or cackling imps of manic glee don't adequately express the attitudes a player would build while playing.

Numerical reviews work best for at-a-glance decision-making ("Should I take my girlfriend to see Iron Man after we head out for the night?") but hen faced with the commitment for buying the game (a fairly expensive endeavor) an intelligent consumer should do more then act like a computer program that sets the .buy|Game value to TRUE when reviewer-rating >= 8.

Overall, I salute Yahtzee for responding in kind to the grating moans of people who don't think their responses out and impulse-send their comments. Kick more ass, yahtzee! We may yet turn the tide on the stupid epidemic!

renard:

MRMIdAS2k:
Whats wrong with a proper unlock system? Beat the game with one character to unlock the next one, or combinations of characters?

Clear Classic Mode with 10 Characters to unlock sonic.
clear classic mode under 12 minutes to unlock captain falcon
fight 5 brawls to unlock ness
fight 15 brawls on shadow mosses to unlock snake
fight 22 brawls to unlock luigi
clear classic mode under normal difficulty with zelda or under hard difficulty with link to unlock ganondorf
etc, etc, etc...

I see some porper unlock system here, if you ask me...

I was thinking more of somthing that makes sense, stuff like "complete the game with mario & luigi to unlock peach"

as opposed to "BEAT IT 100000000 TIMES TO GET SOMEONE YOU EXPECTED TO BE THERE FROM THE START"

Ahh... this is horrible. I've probably been a nintendo fanboy all my life, but i do my best not to bring it out. I'm also an european so i really haven't gotten the chance to play SSBB myself. I was disappointed with the way Yahtzee reviewed the game at first not because I have to franticly defend my consumer choices to random people on the internet, but because I really enjoyed SSBM and hoped that the newest installation of the series would also bring more of the same gaming-goodness and convince the toughest gamereviewiever on the interwebs. Well this did'nt happen, but I have to say I even managed to get over my fanboyerism and have a good laugh from this review (Was it a review? I'm not sure.).
All I am trying to say is was this really nescesary? I mean the reason I didn't post my whining sooner on the comment thread of epic proportions was that I thought that the comments were just something for people to whine in and no-one (at least not Yahtzee) would not be reading. I suppose I presumed that Yahtzee was a totally independant force of nature that could not be controlled by mere mortals. It turns out Yahtzee is just as woulnerable to criticism as the games he reviews.

And if someone somewhere someday is feeling the urge to correct my english grammar I just have to mention that I am not a native english speaker so no goddamn wonder I don't write like Edgard FUCKING Alan Poe. Let's see how well you write complex sentences in Finnish.
Haistakaa paska.

Apologies for my previous post...i was trying to ask mspencer82 what he doesnt like about GTA IV...the quote seemed to fail on me...

Although this week's Zero Punctuation was a right old laugh (probably the funniest yet), it didn't look at the proper complaints. But then again, the whole point of this was to smack fanboys in the face which it did a good and hilarious job of.

Drake Flare:
Whoo insulting the tards! Go Yahtzee!

and yeah it's the new generation of gamers kinda do suck balls a little I mean there are people who played games all their life, then theres people who can't game for crap and think since they can beat the samey cartoony crap games Nintendo seems to spew out on a daily basis, they are far supirior to 'real' gamers (Feh Angery Nerd = me)and thus they spam you to death with the most enjoyable hate mail, whenever you say what most good gamers are thinking

Pardon my poor Grammer.

"There's people who played games all their life, and then there's..." HAHAHA.
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

I love gamespot employee part.

anyway, i think this week is just to delay GTA4 because he hasn't finished it yet

I'll give this review a 7.