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Vanguard_Ex
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tiredinnuendo:
Eh...

I understand the purpose of this review. It takes awhile to play GTA4 and as such you need to put up something else to keep the masses placated. That said, reading over terrible fanmail and making fun of your "fans" is a theme that's somewhat overused and as far as "Yahtzee" humor goes I'd say it falls a bit short.

But what can you do?

- J

We are all thinking of the same Yahtzee, right? The one who struggled to lay off gay jokes in the Army of Two review and makes a 'sex with your mom' joke in this very review? Yahtzee's humour style is as follows, I like to think: Bring out the big guns, and if you get bored of that, revert to good ol' simple and offensive.

Ula
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The fanboys just got told, lol. :P
GO TEAM RETARD!!!
Great work and about time to answer back.

Vanor
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Am I the only one who is only one who is a little disappointed that there wasn't a game review this time around?

Wave-360
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Best Review! :D
I didnt care for Brawl either...
I liked the proffesional Troll part :D
well actually the whole review was Superb, Amazing, Excelent, Awsome, Sick and many more compliments!

L4Y Duke
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Rygar:
Believe me or not, but I know our good friend "Jeremy Gigaballs" in real life.

Ah, yes. The guy who 'tried' to change Yahtzee's opinion by pointing out even more crap that Yahtzee didn't even mention in his review.

Tell me, how much was the surgery to extract his foot from his mouth?

Rygar:
If you want I can post the original, unabridged version of the e-mail.

Oh, please.

Britanadian
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hahaha once again, Yahtzee punches the world in the kidneys with brass knuckles.
amazing.

RTR
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It was a good move from yahtzee to do this. He was literally inundated with post after post claiming he has lost his credibility and talent.

I think he's right. You shouldn't let other reviews get to you if you like the game.

Britanadian
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Vanor:
Am I the only one who is only one who is a little disappointed that there wasn't a game review this time around?

yeah, I'm pretty sure you are.

NekoMimiMode
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Okay, as someone who owns SSBB, I can tell you this: it's okay. It is not the best game ever, only Mario 64 and Okami get to hold that ranking in my opinion. And it is annoying to unlock the unlockables (took me roughly 2 weeks, and that's with help and an awesome cheat). I liked the single player until the stage before the final boss. That place tooks us DAYS to get through. But you know what? Snake's taunt is hiding in a box, and doing that right before I decimated a friend is just awesome. And do not call your friend a Nintendo Fan. I am a Nintendo Fan, I practically worship Miyamoto-sama. However, I also draw the line. Your friend is a Ninten-tard, basically if you have ever heard of a Naru-tard, he's like that, only with Nintendo. And all people like that, need to be smited.

FYI, fanboys don't wear the cat ears, they wear stupid shirts instead. *puts on Nintendo Fangirl red cat ears* I support Nintendo, but it is rather unoriginal, but hey, at least it's fun.

Kaos Incarnate
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I have a few of those shirts somewhere...

NickCaligo42
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Okay, Yahtzee pissed me off with his Devil May Cry 4 review and all but completely lost my viewership with his Brawl review, then made me lose faith in the entire human race when he actually gave God of War a GOOD review when I was deeply hoping he'd rip it a new one, but after THIS he has proven once more worthy of my esteem. Not only was this review a real breath of fresh air, but the only phrase as funny as "farming under duress" that I've yet encountered is "you're projecting so hard you could point yourself at a wall and show off powerpoint presentations."

Well done, Yahtzee. You've succeeded in totally alienating me as a viewer and then doing a complete 180 and bringing me right back in.

Now if only you and I BOTH had that kind of luck with women.

Rygar
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L4Y Duke:

Rygar:
If you want I can post the original, unabridged version of the e-mail.

Oh, please.

Jeremy Gigaballs:
F*** you. SSBB is awesome. Just because your are too blinded by the shiny vomit distributed for the PS3 to see that, doesn't mean that should try to convince others that SSMB is bad. The hours of single player mode to unlock extras is part of SSB. Its f****** tradition. I'm pretty sure that the other reason you dont like SSBB is that you were crap at it. Its true isnt it? You got your shiny vomit covered ass handed to you by Yoshi. And dont try to blame it on bad contols or opponents having super moves that strike you out in one hit. Its because it took you five hours to figure out up was jump and A was attack. Now whos the twat?

I'm not sure what that "SSMB" in the middle is about

RebelRising
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He screwed all those a**holes over very well. I love how he corrected their letters.

DontHate
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hahah! this is definatly your best video :D

L4Y Duke
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Rygar:

Jeremy Gigaballs:
F*** you. SSBB is awesome. Just because your are too blinded by the shiny vomit distributed for the PS3 to see that, doesn't mean that should try to convince others that SSMB is bad. The hours of single player mode to unlock extras is part of SSB. Its f****** tradition. I'm pretty sure that the other reason you dont like SSBB is that you were crap at it. Its true isnt it? You got your shiny vomit covered ass handed to you by Yoshi. And dont try to blame it on bad contols or opponents having super moves that strike you out in one hit. Its because it took you five hours to figure out up was jump and A was attack. Now whos the twat?

I'm not sure what that "SSMB" in the middle is about

Oh, boy. After reading that I get the image of a twisted pretzel-man who simultaneously has his head up his ass AND his foot in his mouth. Not a pleasant picture.

laikenf
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PrimeZero2:
So I guess from the grammatical corrections today, this particular column was "some punctuation" rather than "zero punctuation".

Anyways, while I did enjoy SSBB, it is plainly obvious that Nintendo fans are by and large just kids or kids that never grew up. Not in the Toys R Us sense either. Everything about their precious little Wii has been hailed as Messiahs and touted as exemplifying the Wii as the system of choice. When one person of any credibility in the gaming world comes along and expresses dissatisfaction with SSMM and Nintendo as a whole they grab their torches and pitchforks and attack. Watching these posts and the sheer repetitiveness of their moronic arguments reminded me of any time the villagers attacked in Resident Evil 4. Tons of people, all absorbed by the same "cult" spouting mindless drivel in an effort to kill the people that will not conform.

Also, I'm sure that they weren't complaining when you gave pretty favorable reviews to Mario Galaxy, Zack & Wiki, and No More Heroes. Ignorant children.

Don't generalize, for I'm a nintendo fan and I HATE SSB (any of them).

DrMisanthrope
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I try to avoid these forums, because i hate the people that post. But really, you cant complain about Yahtzee being a cynical prick, if you are watching his reviews you generally know what to expect. Some people just cant appreciate how refreshing it is to see a review that isnt just cock sucking the developers and tells it how it really is.

Beaux
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Best Zero Punctuation yet. Yahtzee has outdone himself. I loved the excellent bashing of the Wii fanboys and the part about the troll. He should do this whenever a bunch of stupid asses plug his email full of hate mail.

Freeyourmind775
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Oh man, This is an AWESOME video.

Keep it up.

Additionally: When might we get some ZP shirts???

NekoMimiMode
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Rygar, hit your friend. Hit him hard, and hit him alot. Please. Ninten-tards... *shakes head in pity and shame, clutching the Wii, my cat tried to eat it again so I had to pick it up* Also, tell him to proof his emails. I know emailing services have spell check, I use it alot. But do not give up on him! We shall overcome this and save your friend!

Silver_Wyvern280
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Been a long time watcher, first time writer. A enjoyable video from start to finish, even though I find it silly that a critic had to argue his choice on why he has deemed SSBB not worth his time. He knew as well as most everyone that he was going to stir up the fan boys for even a unbiased and neutral opinion. I do admit, the only attacks I saw were towards the fan boys themselves, not the game. I found the SSBB hype irritating, mostly because of how people complained about release dates. Everything else I am unbiased to; I did Played the first two and they kept my attention for a hour or so. I am not going to play the third, mostly because I find the Wii-mote such a useless gimmick. I have grown up with PC and Console controllers, and I found Nintendo's controls go more and more impractical after the SNES. There is my TLDR rant for you all, Will be awaiting the next ZP. Lets hope that the SSBB flame war has cooled down enough so we can move on with our lives.

Doug
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Rygar:

Jeremy Gigaballs:
F*** you. SSBB is awesome. Just because your are too blinded by the shiny vomit distributed for the PS3 to see that, doesn't mean that should try to convince others that SSMB is bad. The hours of single player mode to unlock extras is part of SSB. Its f****** tradition. I'm pretty sure that the other reason you dont like SSBB is that you were crap at it. Its true isnt it? You got your shiny vomit covered ass handed to you by Yoshi. And dont try to blame it on bad contols or opponents having super moves that strike you out in one hit. Its because it took you five hours to figure out up was jump and A was attack. Now whos the twat?

I'm not sure what that "SSMB" in the middle is about

Wow... and I thought the email was stupid before! Great review Yahtzee, although I think I'm turning into a yahtzee fanboy now... does this mean I'll have to be purged with the others or do members of the cult of Yahtzee get to live! ;)

A Username Not In Use
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Am I the only one who thinks that the fan-mail under review this week were made up.

Nobody can be that stupid.

Sexton Crikey, compalained about peer pressure. There was peer pressure for Call of Duty 4 but Yahtzee still did the review and even admited the game was OK

Cpt. James Obvious (ret.), althought it should be Capt. (Retd) James Obvious, said that Yahtzee only points out bad things but given the situation with Snake and Sonic how else would you discribe it?

Fergus Buttpump argument about friends. As well as mentioning that he played the game with his friends Yahtzee did mention that this game it best played with other people, and I'm not just saying this as a "that guy".

And finally

Chesty Jockhurst quote "Nintendo made it so that the players could have fun mercilessly beating the ever-loving crap out of their most hated characters".

Mario beating the stupid out of Princess Peach anyone

All of the above lead me to think that either these have been made up by Yahtzee, which I have to admire as I believe that these are of a higher quality that the complainte he would normally receive, or they were written by morons who did not watch the reviews but were faithfully informed about the content by the bloke in the pub's best mate's nephew.

laikenf
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kinoki:
What I don't get with all this is why people don't agree with Yatzee. What is it in his review that there is to have an opinion about?

You can't be serious right? You know what, I tend to disagree with Yatzee a lot, what I don't do is be an ass about it but my point is that there are people that disagree with anything, god, the devil; how can you disagree with someone like Martin Luther King for example? Well you know what happened to him.

Irridium
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lol, awsome, love how he corrected the hate mail

goddi23a
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truly epic "review"

Kaos Incarnate
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A Username Not In Use:
Am I the only one who thinks that the fan-mail under review this week were made up.

Nobody can be that stupid.

Go to youtube, find any video of any band doesn't matter which one there will always be a comment saying something on the lines of "This bands sucks" trust me there can be people that stupid. For crying out loud someone said Fallout boy was better than the song Stairway to Heaven

A Username Not In Use
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Maybe your right, although I have to admit that I do not think Stairway to Heaven was their best work, that title is reserved for Kashmir

NekoMimiMode
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YouTube is basically where stupid lives. You ever seen the Baby and Cobra video? Parent sits there and lets a cobra bite the baby. People are that stupid, but it's okay, we can derive entertainment from it. *puts back on catears after being bitched at to take them off by a family member*

Kaos Incarnate
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Still I think someone also said Blink 182 was better than Led Zeppelin

Logicality
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Thank goodness Yahtzee did this review!! When are some people going to realize that not everyone liked SSBB? I certainly don't care about the game at this point. Good one!

babyblues
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Also if you bothered reading a few of the comments above you'll find one of the friends of one of the people who mailed Yahtzee posting the original letters. It appears Yahtzee did modify the letters, probably only posting snippets that stood out to him.

Sentient
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MRMIdAS2k:
So, you've not played the game, yet know the faults Yahtzee came up with don't exist?

Yes, I do. See, there's this amazing thing called the internet, it lets you find out a lot of stuff, even information on games that you haven't played! Amazing, huh? Add that to the fact that I've played Melee to death, and a lot of the complaints Yahtzee has about Brawl apply to Melee too, and you'll find that I do know that Yahtzee is just pulling shit out of his arse.

Here are a list of the "faults" Yahtzee found in Brawl:

1) The camera zooms out too far.
2) The characters are obscured by effects.
3) You don't have everything from the start.
4) You have to unlock stuff in single player.
5) The Subspace Emissary is too long.
6) SSBB is a button masher.
7) Subspace Emissary cutscenes are like Nintendo fanfics.
8) Characters don't deserve to be in the game just because he doesn't know them.

How many of those are complete and utter bullshit? 8 of them. Oh wait, that's ALL of them.

1) The camera is fine, it doesn't zoom too far out at any time, so Yahtzee must have been playing this on a pathetically tiny television in order for this "fault" to have any validity.
2) This is just bullshit. The only times in the entire game where the characters are obscured by effects is when the Smoke Ball has been used (an item DESIGNED to obscure the characters).
3) OMIGOD! YOU HAVE TO UNLOCK STUFFZ? ZOMG THIS GAME SUCKZ!
4) Funny how nearly all of the single player modes can be played in co-op WITH SOMEONE ELSE. There goes that "fault".
5) Usually people complain when a game is too short. The Subspace Emissary's length is fine.
6) If Yahtzee honestly thinks SSBB is a button masher then he should just quit gaming right now.
7) I've never heard of a Nintendo fanfic that remotely resembles the Subspace Emissary. Yet another "fault" Yahtzee made up in a failed attempt at complaining about SSBB.
8) Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawww! He should go to Google and get over his ignorance.

Those were Yahtzee's 8 main "faults" he claimed SSBB had, and I just proved what utter bullshit they all are. I could easily make a list of faults SSBB has, and all of the points I'd raise would be valid and not imaginary. In fact, here's a list of the faults SSBB has:

1) Tripping. A pointless addition that only hinders the gameplay.
2) Clones. They're still here, even after we were promised they'd be gone.
3) Release date. It's taken too long to be released in Europe.
4) Some series are horribly over-represented, whilst others are under-represented.
5) Very similar to Melee.

There you go, five faults about SSBB, and what do you know? All of them are true! That wasn't hard to do, so what's Yahtzee's excuse?

MRMIdAS2k:
Yahtzee highlights what is essentially a massive FUCK YOU from brawl which is PLAY AS SONIC (after countless fucking HOURS playing, FFS I finished GTA4 before my friend unlocked brawl fully. (and by that I mean got all the characters)) when shit like that happens it's not fun (which brawl is supposed to be), as you're doing the same shit, fighting the same fucking people on the same fucking level over and fucking over until you get a message going "you've played long enough, have a character that 0.1% of westerners give half a fuck about, oh BTW sonics still a fuckload of hours away, enjoy".

You do realize that how long you play Brawl for doesn't factor at all into unlocking any characters, don't you? Obviously not, or else you wouldn't have just made a twat out of yourself.

Edderz1989:
FANBOY!!!

Oh, I'm so hurt. I just got called a fanboy by some dick who blatantly doesn't know the meaning of the word.

Edderz1989:
ow and what the hell do you mean "don't review it becasue you'll get half of the complaints". who here can say hand on heart that they'ed watch yahtzee if he didn't rip games to peices.

He could at least find some real things to complain about. He obviously couldn't do that about Brawl (god knows how, it's not hard to do).

mspencer82:
The word is existent.

Aawww. That's so cute. You're trying to copy Yahtzee by being a spelling nazi! Go stand in a field you fucking sheep.

mspencer82:
Why are you so bothered by someone not liking Brawl?

Wow. How hard did you try in order to completely misunderstand my post as much as you have? I have no problem with someone disliking Brawl. What I do have a problem with is when someone hates on a game and has no real reasons for doing it, and then a bunch of ass-kissers follow his lead and start hating that game without reason too.

mspencer82:
You say he shouldn't have reviewed it if he didn't want to, but at the same time your fellow Brawl fanatics (and likely you) begged him to review it. Was he just supposed to ignore those requests if he didn't like the game? Is that what a reviewer does now, only review games they like?

Nice assumption about me, shame it isn't true. I never begged him to review it. Ever. Yes, I was looking forward to him reviewing it, but that's because I thought he'd be clever enough to rip the game about it's actual faults like the fact you can randomly trip over. Obviously I overestimated his intelligence.

mspencer82:
What exactly were these non-existent flaws that Yahtzee pointed out?

See above.

Edderz1989:
THANK YOU.

STFU.

CodeChrono
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Probably my favorite of your work. Up to this point it was the Turok review, tied with the Peggle review. What I liked most about it was the fact that Yahtzee stood up for himself. I found that very respectable.

Abolished
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Let me just state I am not a "Fanboy" ok so that's cleared up let me say this

Opinion
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment.
4. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.
5. a favourable estimate; esteem

Yahtzee is offering his opinion or expressing it to viewers who choose to view or hear it so people that complain about his opinion confuse me. If you don't like someone's views on something like religion, sports, weather ect don't attack him for expressing himself. All peoples opinions are or should be valued even if its something you don't like or upsets you. You can choose to accept, disagree ect, then that is your opinion which you are offering and no one should attack or hate you for it. Seriously people this is how wars start.

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