Awesome man, just purly awesome, you made my day so awesome. I love your ability to slash and mangle, well, everything :)

And for the record, yepp, im one of the white trashes who got both the PS3, Wii and the XBox360, which have been, since the time i looked at it while it was turned on, turned red ring of death all over my ass.

Indigo_Dingo:

Jack Spencer Jr:

Indigo_Dingo:
What does that say about the people who are trying to defend him?

That they should lighten up and remember that Yahtzee is a big boy and can defend himself.

So shut the fuck up you little cunt.

I'm not defending Yahtzee. I'm laughing at you waggling around your little willie.

I'll let you know when you say anything that deserve a response beyond pointing and laughing.

So shut the fuck up you little cunt.

How very eloquent.

I'm sure Indigo_Dingo's mother loves him....

And i do have to agree with Yahtzee - always wanted to see a good mailbag rant from him, and finally got it.

I'm going to be mightily entertained by the GTA4 review i think....

lol great review

although im sure our views matter little to neo-cyborg know as Yahtzee but i just hate those people who have to go online n complain about every little thing they found slightly offensive

so props to Yahtzee on his humorous and bile filled respose

Awesome everything lol.
Yatzee nailed everything perfectly here. Loved this one, and can't wait til next week when he reviews GTA IV ;)

LMAO Great vid Yahtzee, absolutely hilarious stuff :D
"You like numbers, how about FOUR. As in FOURK YOU."

Indigo_Dingo:
Yahtzee does not give legitamite reasons for Brawl.

He does give legitimate reasons for not liking the game. It's just that some people disagree with his reasoning. That's their choice. I've found that reviewers tend to get bored with the mundane. Be it movies, TV, books, music, theatre, or video games; most reviewers are looking for that special something that will set it apart from all the other products out there. That's why it often seems that what we like, they do not. And, it's important to remember that reviewers are often forced to wade through the mediocre to get to something that stands out, so their patience wears thin.

In his SSBB review, he made the following points. All of them are legitimate reasons to not like a game.

1. This game suffers from a problem common to all fighters. It can quickly descend into a fight that is no more challenging than hitting buttons over and over with no attempt at strategy. It's not a programming fault, but it's still there.
2. The characters are too small and the camera zooms out too far.
3. The particle effects are distracting and obscure the action.
4. For a first time play, it is disappointing to have to unlock characters that have been hyped by the company for the new game.
5. Some of the characters aren't that well known outside of Japan. Since this is a world-wide release, it should feature the more mainstream characters so that people can relate to the game better.
6. The single player is good and a lot of hard work was put into it, but they make you go through it twice which becomes boring and repetitive to the point that you feel like you're stuck in "Groundhog Day."
7. This game was disappointing because there is nothing new and interesting about it. It's the same old game repackaged and resold. Nintendo needs to develop some new concepts.

All of those points are legitimate reasons for disliking the game, especially for a reviewer. For the general public, those may be points that they are willing to forgive or even the same ones that draw them to the game in the first place.

Taking movies as an example, most people rave over movies that do the same thing over and over again. Why? Because it is the thing they like. Whether it's romance, drama, horror, or action, people are attracted to the same type of movie over and over. To a movie review who must sit through every movie that's coming out, it becomes a boring repetition of seeing the same movies over and over again with nothing to set them apart from the rest. That's why they often pick a movie that the general public really doesn't like or wouldn't normally see. Those are the movies that usually attempt something that is outside of the everyday experience.

Ben has expressed the same feelings in a number of his reviews. That's why he gave Psychonauts such a decent review. It was something that most people wouldn't play, but its creators were trying something new and, in his opinion, not only deserved a mention for trying it, but they actually succeeded. And, there are times that he, just like the general public, is attracted to a game because of its sameness. He'd still like to see something new and exciting, but the thing that he sees in that game is the thing that attracts him to games in general. His Gears of War review falls into that category. It wasn't anything new, but it contained the things he liked.

This game, to him, just came out as mediocre. It was nothing new and nothing stood out as something about which he should become excited. Neither he nor his friends enjoyed it and he doesn't recommend it. It seems that his acerbic wit, usually the draw to his reviews, and his attack on those people who descend into insane raving over a game are what turned many people off this time.

Like any reader or viewer of reviews, our job is to determine whether we will try the game and then decide if we like it. If a person has the same taste in games as the reviewer and finds the same things distracting in a game, then his review would do well to warn them away. If they do like the things that he doesn't, then they should be able to laugh at his wit and enjoy the game. If not, then they can wait until the next review and then get back to enjoying his wit and opinions.

I pretty much go by a similar method but vice versa, believing most games are good until proven otherwise. I loved the game Mega Man Legends for that reason, even when most review sites or magazines believe it to be a low point in mega man history.

I liked both the SSB review and this one. I like the new SSB allot and I would get a Wii for that game, if nothing else, but that is because I like 'party games' when I am hanging with my friends. Like Guitar Hero or Mario Party or Mario Kart. You know, the games you can pop in and just have fun without floating through cinematics and storyline. Thing is, that's all they are good for. Now, I have only played bits of Brawl at the local Gamestop while waiting to clock into work or when waiting for my taxi home so I do not know much of the storyline but, once again, it is a fun party game to me.

That being said, I liked both the game and the review! If you start foaming at the mouth when someone says something bad about a like of yours then, for the love of gourd (yes, gourd), go chew on a power line. Maybe the electric impulses sent to your head when you get through the line will finally jump-start your brain.

My biggest hate is when someone pretty much blurts 'OMG! U do not liek what I like! U have no taste! Start being more liek me or u suk!' I want to beat these people in the face with an electric drill untill the stupid dribbles out their ears. I can accept difference of opinions but the mindless blather that some people spew, all the while believing they are saying something valid (much like this post), makes my brain turn inside out and try to kill itself dead.

Yeah, I like Brawl. No, I did not feel insulted when he gave it a bad review. Why? Because I know what a review is; An opinion. Even if you try to be subjective, you will fail. If you hate FPS games, you will probably find less good stuff to say about them. Gods know I hate RTS games and never have anything good to say about them.

Personally, we should round up every frothing fanboy (console, genre, or WoW) and make them fight to the death, the winner(s) will be killed. It's a win-win. :) They shut up and I stop hearing 'OMG! This game suks! WoW is better!' and 'Why did you buy a 360? Anything is bettr!'

(Oh, and my typos are pretty much poking fun at internet grammar..Except for 'cinematics'. I just can't remember how to spell that and I am too lazy to look it up for a forum post...a long forum post..)

One more edit: One of the points raised was '5. Some of the characters aren't that well known outside of Japan. Since this is a world-wide release, it should feature the more mainstream characters so that people can relate to the game better.' And Yah asked who Marth is, yes? (Or was it Roy?). Thing is, they were in Melee and no one knew then. THEN Fire Emblem came out here in the states. They are more mainstream now..here, at least. Granted, we seem to translate every game that comes out, regardless of how long it's been.

thats right bicthes dont ever talk to Yahtzee like that.....hes a hole lot cooler

Pretty good one, loved the grammar bit. Good filler until GTA, really. Still don't agree with the SSBB review, but frankly I refuse to even consider looking at the comments for it as I seem to somehow psychically know without looking that it's nothing more than a bunch of acid vomiting Nintendo fanboys contending with acid vomiting contrarianists and acid vomiting but-perhaps-better-typing Yahtzee fanboys that want to hate the game with little better reason than to get a step closer to a world where they can be showered with your milky love toothpaste late into the night.

Blah blah blah fuck you Yahtzee! Blah blah blah You fucking rule Yahtzee! Blah blah blah I liked SSBB! Blah blah blah SSBB was total garbage! Blah blah blah Opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!! blah blah blah not a fanboy blah blah not a legitimate reviewer blah blah nintendo fanboy! blah blah Yahtzee fanboy! blah blah omgz liek 900 postz!! blah blah button masher! blah blah blah blah BLAH.

Copy and paste this 200 times to fill in the gaps between the valid arugments, losing them forever and ever and blah blah blah blah.

Simon_TR:
Blah blah blah fuck you Yahtzee! Blah blah blah You fucking rule Yahtzee! Blah blah blah I liked SSBB! Blah blah blah SSBB was total garbage! Blah blah blah Opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!! blah blah blah not a fanboy blah blah not a legitimate reviewer blah blah nintendo fanboy! blah blah Yahtzee fanboy! blah blah omgz liek 900 postz!! blah blah button masher! blah blah blah blah BLAH.

Copy and paste this 200 times to fill in the gaps between the valid arugments, losing them forever and ever and blah blah blah blah.

Or not...

Pedantic to the last. If I were an avid gamer I would probably have the same outlook as Ben. I really enjoy watching and listening to the no-holes-barred quick-narrative reviews of feisty 'zero punctuation', which I started using as entertainment since my brother, who is also called Ben, forced me to watch some of them on more than one occasion.
The negative feedback that zero-punctuation has recieved, as seen in this clip, are given by a bunch of - for want of a better word - dicks.
I realise that my oppinion may carry less merit that the 'avid gamer' but, I don't give a tiny toss.
Keep on gaming you gaming massive, you amuse me...

A girl.

I LOVED this one! Yahtzee, you're the man. Seeing intelligent people own retarded bastards for four and a half minutes gives me warm fuzzy feelings inside. Your corrections were great!

"SEE ME."

conqueror Kenny:

Or not...

You don't have to, somebody already beat me to it anyways.

KillerL1ama:
I LOVED this one! Yahtzee, you're the man. Seeing intelligent people own retarded bastards for four and a half minutes gives me warm fuzzy feelings inside. Your corrections were great!

"SEE ME."

It seemed to me he managed to sink to their level with this weeks video though

Am I the only one noticing that the only comments taken seriously in this are the ones that have either placed Yahtzee's balls in their mouths or at the very least declared them the saviours of all things good in the universe?

Don't get me wrong I enjoy his reviews and I'm on the side of most people discussing here but surely negative feedback is just as valid as positive feedback. Unfortunately there are no examples to point to because there are none in the video and I can't be arsed to scroll through 25 pages worth of commentary to give evidence to one little point

Lastly stop knocking other people for posting their opinions and calling their posts and the topic in general as worthless. If no one cared there wouldn't be a whole forum devoted to the sole purpose of having comments posted on them and people should be able to do that without other people making them feel like a complete retard for doing so (note I'm referring to the concept of posting comments in theory and not supporting any of the arguments in the video)

Mythbhavd:

Indigo_Dingo:
Yahtzee does not give legitamite reasons for Brawl.

He does give legitimate reasons for not liking the game. It's just that some people disagree with his reasoning. That's their choice. I've found that reviewers tend to get bored with the mundane. Be it movies, TV, books, music, theatre, or video games; most reviewers are looking for that special something that will set it apart from all the other products out there. That's why it often seems that what we like, they do not. And, it's important to remember that reviewers are often forced to wade through the mediocre to get to something that stands out, so their patience wears thin.

In his SSBB review, he made the following points. All of them are legitimate reasons to not like a game.

1. This game suffers from a problem common to all fighters. It can quickly descend into a fight that is no more challenging than hitting buttons over and over with no attempt at strategy. It's not a programming fault, but it's still there.
2. The characters are too small and the camera zooms out too far.
3. The particle effects are distracting and obscure the action.
4. For a first time play, it is disappointing to have to unlock characters that have been hyped by the company for the new game.
5. Some of the characters aren't that well known outside of Japan. Since this is a world-wide release, it should feature the more mainstream characters so that people can relate to the game better.
6. The single player is good and a lot of hard work was put into it, but they make you go through it twice which becomes boring and repetitive to the point that you feel like you're stuck in "Groundhog Day."
7. This game was disappointing because there is nothing new and interesting about it. It's the same old game repackaged and resold. Nintendo needs to develop some new concepts.

All of those points are legitimate reasons for disliking the game, especially for a reviewer. For the general public, those may be points that they are willing to forgive or even the same ones that draw them to the game in the first place.

Taking movies as an example, most people rave over movies that do the same thing over and over again. Why? Because it is the thing they like. Whether it's romance, drama, horror, or action, people are attracted to the same type of movie over and over. To a movie review who must sit through every movie that's coming out, it becomes a boring repetition of seeing the same movies over and over again with nothing to set them apart from the rest. That's why they often pick a movie that the general public really doesn't like or wouldn't normally see. Those are the movies that usually attempt something that is outside of the everyday experience.

Ben has expressed the same feelings in a number of his reviews. That's why he gave Psychonauts such a decent review. It was something that most people wouldn't play, but its creators were trying something new and, in his opinion, not only deserved a mention for trying it, but they actually succeeded. And, there are times that he, just like the general public, is attracted to a game because of its sameness. He'd still like to see something new and exciting, but the thing that he sees in that game is the thing that attracts him to games in general. His Gears of War review falls into that category. It wasn't anything new, but it contained the things he liked.

This game, to him, just came out as mediocre. It was nothing new and nothing stood out as something about which he should become excited. Neither he nor his friends enjoyed it and he doesn't recommend it. It seems that his acerbic wit, usually the draw to his reviews, and his attack on those people who descend into insane raving over a game are what turned many people off this time.

Like any reader or viewer of reviews, our job is to determine whether we will try the game and then decide if we like it. If a person has the same taste in games as the reviewer and finds the same things distracting in a game, then his review would do well to warn them away. If they do like the things that he doesn't, then they should be able to laugh at his wit and enjoy the game. If not, then they can wait until the next review and then get back to enjoying his wit and opinions.

I can't tell you how good this made me feel. An actually well-thought out response, filled with good points.
I could make an equally well-thought out response about how I love Brawl to pieces (but loved the review anyway), but since these are all opinions, it wouldn't matter.

Great job.

Oh, and Indigo_Dingo: He doesn't like the game. Okay. Do YOU like the game? Yes? Good! You can be happy with it while Yahtzee has fun with Chains of Olympus.
You can't fault somebody for giving their honest opinion, which in this case was negative.
Grow up. You're worse than Jockthrust, Buttpump and the other fanboys.

While it was funny, I didn't like how you spent, nay, wasted an episode for the trolls. Really, I'd rather you review another obscure game instead of this bastard child among your other videos.

SSBB sufferd the same fate as halo 3. it was way overhyped and ended up being dissapointing.

bluemarsman:
SSBB sufferd the same fate as halo 3. it was way overhyped and ended up being dissapointing.

I liked Halo 3 but then, I never saw Halo 1 and all I saw of Halo 2 was multiplayer when my friends brought over their Xbox's and hooked them all up so I took Halo 3 as a game unto itself. I did not know much of the story (save for what the booklet told me) so it was like an origonal game for me, not a sequel times two. Nor did I pay attention to commercials when it came out because I never thought I'd buy a 360 at that time.

But that is off topic. Another person said most posts here were flaming Yahtzee or kissing his balls. I noticed a few were not..I hope mine was not; who knows who has been licking those things before me.

I love Yahtzee's reviews and more often than not they seem to coincide my own views on gaming. There is only one review I disagreed with him and that was on Mass Effect. I absolutely love that game and in my ever so humble opinion it is the best thing to hit gaming since the original Fallout but I wouldn't dream of sending a reviewer hate mail. yahtzee has his views on games and I have mine and if we agree on a game, great. If not, so freaking what. Everyone has an opinion on something or other. Screaming at someone who doesn't agree with you is just a waste of time.

Wait a minute,

When Yahtzee explains his motivation for this piece: "... so I thought: 'rather than dispense bile all the time, it would be nice to sample some for a change'..." (Croshaw, 20-24), it's his own SSBB review vomiting profusely all over him and his desk. So is Yatzhee sampling his own bile? Seems a bit odd to me, really.

-DonPaul

DonPauliani:
Wait a minute,

When Yahtzee explains his motivation for this piece: "... so I thought: 'rather than dispense bile all the time, it would be nice to sample some for a change'..." (Croshaw, 20-24), it's his own SSBB review vomiting profusely all over him and his desk. So is Yatzhee sampling his own bile? Seems a bit odd to me, really.

-DonPaul

I think the "bile" he was referring to was responding to hate mail.

Indigo_Dingo:

Jack Spencer Jr:

sanzar:
Not sure what all the fuss is all about... the way people are carrying on you'd think he'd insulted their mothers

Well, it's like this...

Did you see Fight Club? Remember how Tyler Durden said stuff like "You are not your job. You are not how much money you have in your bank account"? Well, we're dealing with people who have no identity or sense of self-worth aside from the games they play. Therefore, if you criticize the game, they take it personally.

Whereas others will take it personally when Yahtzee himself is insulted. What does that say about the people who are trying to defend him?

Not sure if this was a stab at me or not, but just in case it is; I'd like to clarify that I'm not sticking up for Yahtzee, god knows he doesn't need any help, but rather telling all you precious video gaming zealots take a step back and realise that A: Loyalty to a major corporation (that you don't work for - and if you did I'd advise against it) is about as logical as a prostitute standing by her drug dealer pimp, and B: IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME!
So I guess what I'm trying to say is this: GET A LIFE

Jack Spencer Jr:

sanzar:
Not sure what all the fuss is all about... the way people are carrying on you'd think he'd insulted their mothers

Well, it's like this...

Did you see Fight Club? Remember how Tyler Durden said stuff like "You are not your job. You are not how much money you have in your bank account"? Well, we're dealing with people who have no identity or sense of self-worth aside from the games they play. Therefore, if you criticize the game, they take it personally.

Here's the problem with what you are saying... A) You are quoting a piece of crass commercialism that is a screed against crass commercialism and don't seem to see the irony of it. B) People don't stick to simply insulting what someone likes. These new kids decide that if someone likes a game that Overlord Yahtzee disapproves of, it is obviously indicative of a character flaw, so they insult accordingly.

Damnit of course we would turn this into "SSBB Thread #2" - the other one is a few topics down - keep it there - damnit I liked it better when you were kissing Yahtzee's ass - even though he was pretty much shooting fish in a barrel.

*sigh* How many more 1-post wonders are going to register just for this stupid thread anyway? At this rate we'll have more 1-post users than actual users here.

Another amazing review by Yahtzee.It's about time someone gave those Brawl fanboys a nice,well aimed kick in the face,and who better then the king of reviews,Yahtzee.

Sylocat:
*sigh* How many more 1-post wonders are going to register just for this stupid thread anyway? At this rate we'll have more 1-post users than actual users here.

I think the guy who posted right under you (Anti-Fanboy) registered just because he clicked this thread, looked at the last post, and then did it just to spite you.

Sylocat:
*sigh* How many more 1-post wonders are going to register just for this stupid thread anyway? At this rate we'll have more 1-post users than actual users here.

I'm surprised at how many 1's there are considering this is a response to his SSBB thread. You would think all the people who hated SSBB fanboys would have already responded in there and most posts would be at least 2's.

white enough to own all three. i can't stop chuckling at that comment. so beautifully racist. warms the heart.

bluemarsman:
SSBB sufferd the same fate as halo 3. it was way overhyped and ended up being dissapointing.

MGS will suffer that fate as well... you can quote me on that. (Also like to point out that I, personally, never thought Halo 3was overrated, I'm still playing to to this day. Although, I agree with Yahtzee on some points)

Though once a game receives a certain level of hype is it possible for it to be anything other then overrated?