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News Room Contributor Posts: 4926 Joined: 12 Nov 2002 | |
Beat Writer Posts: 128 Joined: 17 May 2008 | Wow. Yahtzee will be pleased, huh? |
Copy Clerk Posts: 79 Joined: 6 Dec 2007 | I'm amazed that the highest rating available is MA15+. Maybe raising the highest rating would help. Developmentally, there's a big difference between a 15 year old and a 17 year old, and even a 21 year old. The fact that they think material for an adult is also appropriate for a 21 year old shows how ineffective this system is. And why they have to ban everything. |
Beat Writer Posts: 176 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 | ^ Hasn't got a bloody clue. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2483 Joined: 3 Apr 2008 | Sucks..... This means tyhat I will get the shitty version as well |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2990 Joined: 21 Jan 2008 | Again...? Seriously, do the idiots in the OFLC have no life? Have they no sympathy?! |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 629 Joined: 11 Jul 2008 | And as ever, its not to accomodate 'the delicate, ladylike sensibilities of Australian gamers' but the stupid backwoods sensibilities of NON gamers, who wouldn't know the difference between Ping and Manhunt if it crept up behind them and jammed a crowbar into their eyesocket. Find me a gamer demanding that games rated higher than 15 should not get released at all, just one, in Australia. Also, as above...15??? Come on, at least bring a sensible 18 or 21, I'm not sure of the legal state of things over there, but an aussie guy can drink, smoke, have sex, drive, (not all at once), join the army and kill people, but he can't play Fallout 3? in case his delicate mind snaps and he shoots up a school? Bah, and indeed, humbug. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 558 Joined: 3 Sep 2008 | Please let's have a repeat of the Fallout fiasco. |
Muckraker Posts: 283 Joined: 20 Jan 2008 | GO DAMMIT AUSTRALIA! WHY MUST YOU BAN EVERYTHING? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2990 Joined: 21 Jan 2008 |
Michael Atkinson. Yep, just one man... one man has the power to halt a nation's progress. |
Web Developer Posts: 237 Joined: 6 Jun 2007 | Anyone tried submitting Michael Atkinson for review by the OFLC, just for the heck of it? Maybe he'll be found too adult for Australia, and be banned. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1023 Joined: 9 Jul 2008 | Is there, like, a rule in Australia that 1 in 5 videogames has to be banned? Someone should look that up, you never know what you can find in the lawbooks of your country. ...Are laws recorded in lawbooks? Or did I just make that up? I'm really, really tired, I'm going to bed. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 772 Joined: 8 May 2008 | Heh Im guessing one of yahtzees next videos will be a brutal stab at the censors. *cant wait* |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 558 Joined: 3 Sep 2008 |
There is probably more to his life than that... doesn't he work at Pandemic? Remember him saying something like that on AustralianGamer.
No. The thinking behind it is that games are only played by people aged 12-18. Therefore, anything produced for an older demographic (ie Condemned and Fallout) isn't suitable for any gamers because they're not old enough to see blood. But GTA got released in Australia when that's probably worst influencially, when you look at that murder in... Thailand was it? |
Copy Clerk Posts: 90 Joined: 20 Sep 2008 | This is an outrage, im becoming very pissed off with the way Australia is banning games because they cant classify them. God damit Australia bring the ratings up to 18 and 21 and everyone will be happy. If the rating were brought up to 18 and 21 then store personal should be able to refuse purchase of games if the buyer is clearly to young or if the brat standing next to the person buying is to young. If they look like they are of age then id should be called into play in both situations. If these suggestions was put into play then i think that Australia would be well on its way to success and a lot less gamers would be pissed off, well other than those preteens whining about how they cant get the game but they can get the hell over it. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 629 Joined: 11 Jul 2008 | Yeah, over here, now (UK), a lot of stores have an 'over 21/over 25' policy, meaning that even if you look about 25, they're still gonna ask for ID. I think it makes sense, everyone knows that if they want smokes or alcohol, they've gotta be bringing some ID. We also have an official national ID you can apply for, so you don't have to carry passports, driving licences etc around. Just apply the same to games, if they look early 20s, card em. Personally , when I was behind the counter, I'd even talk it over with parents who were getting whined into buying stuff that was innappropriate, sometimes losing the sale or them buying something else. I do think half the time the kid didn't even know what they wanted, just saw guns n cars and wanted one. |
Beat Writer Posts: 189 Joined: 24 Sep 2008 | copious blood spray in the game? boring banned in Australia? /pre-orders game |
Copy Clerk Posts: 63 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 | Yatzee's gona be pissed. Cant wait to hear what he has to say thou lol |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 6477 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
Now thats not fair. I intended fully to get Fallout 3 before it was banned the first time, and I intended to get this game too, to see if it could actually scare me. |
Beat Writer Posts: 150 Joined: 27 Jul 2008 | ENOUGH! Ok, I don't give a shit about Silent Hill, but this has really got to stop. This is not even remotely funny any more. Australians spend $2million per DAY on games(That's AUD). We have ratings on everything. Personally, when I was a child, I don't know about the rest of you, but it was culturally expected by my peers that I'd seen Murderous Rapist Zombies from Outer Space 6 and not been scared by it. When I was 9. This current generation is all oh noes lets protect the children from all the horrible things in the world! And you know what, it's making your kids batshit stupid. Sure they have Christian 'values' but they're brain dead, and you know what natural selection does to the brain dead? It gets them drunk and wraps them around telephone poles after high speed collisions when they're 18. I remember watching scary movies and being scared, hell the intro music to Doctor Who freaked me the most out when I was four. But now, NOW the average age of the 'gamer'(as in the person most likely to be making up the $2million dollar a day statistic) is 29. TWENTY FUCKING NINE!!!!!!!!!!! AND ALL WE'VE GOT LEFT IS FUCKING ANIMAL CROSSING AND BARBIES FUN TIME BIBLE CAMP ON THE SHELVES???? AND THERE'S NOTHING TO DO IN AUSTRALIA, BELIEVE ME! Ahem... without the cathartic release that so many games give us, especially me, I think I would be a danger to society. So instead of bumping a ridiculously large portion of the "A" list titles coming out this season, lets have us a good, old fashioned, grown up rating for games that children will play anyway because the internet exists. And hell, if we can't get it legally then all that's being encouraged is piracy. Yes, prudery and Christian values causes criminal activity... I wish I was being facetious. The other day I found a copy of Bully, as a trade in at EB and snatched it up. It was a pre-censored release version, I think. In any case, I have found virtually kicking people in the balls when they're down utterly hilarious. Arrest me. |
Beat Writer Posts: 160 Joined: 25 Sep 2008 | All good friends living in Australia, get outta that country. =) And enjoy the wonderful games provided in all the other countries. Note, move out only if you can afford it. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1211 Joined: 9 Dec 2007 |
Sympathy? For what? OFLC are experts and professionals at doing... what they do. They recognise and understand that SH4567 may be a big title in the gaming world, but so what? Fallout 3 was a big title, and they edited it (and I've expressed my opinion on that before; how it was only very minor changes and won't really affect the gameplay overall at all), so why can't Silent Hill? It seems they've blocked classification due to copious amounts of gore, and I don't blame them. |
Beat Writer Posts: 132 Joined: 21 Feb 2008 | I was looking forward to this game. The fact that we were going to get it 2 months after everyone else pisses me off, let alone that it's been banned. http://www.classification.gov.au/special.html?n=1&p=227 Submit a complaint if you feel the need. |
Paperboy Posts: 27 Joined: 7 Jul 2008 | There's a difference between "banned" and "refused classification". It is not illegal for you to own and/or import the game. It IS illegal for an Australian game distributor to sell/provide you with the game. This is why the correct terminology is "effectively banned". |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2082 Joined: 12 May 2008 |
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Muckraker Posts: 232 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 | Aussie doesn't like games very much apparently |
Anonymous Source Posts: 7 Joined: 21 Jul 2008 | Yet another game I'll have to have shipped down here by a friend.... but yeah by the time I buy it for the US cost and add the shipping, it ends up being the $100 that EB would charge for it anyways. |
Beat Writer Posts: 126 Joined: 21 Jun 2008 | It's funny that countries allow smoking which will kill the people but ban fake blood.... hypocritical as fuck.... but funny. I'm tired of parents not taking the blame they deserve for the content their children receive. Do they ban the news in Australia too? Censorship has always been a tool used by the weak to control the strong. Look at the bright side... we are close to making DLC the norm. And when we do the censors can go eat themselves. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 29 Jul 2008 | HAHA Yahtzee's gonna be pissed off even more now, lets hope the game either sucks enough to make it funny or it's good enough to make him mad |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2990 Joined: 21 Jan 2008 |
I'd like to disagree with you... so would others on this forum... |
Paperboy Posts: 19 Joined: 6 Jan 2008 | Believe me, I just finished "Homecoming" last night. It's a good thing for Yahtzee's health that he doesn't play that insulting claptrap. I warn you now, the game is "Silent Hill: The mediocre movie 2" Fair, Fucking, Warning. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1525 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 | CHUGGA CHUGGA WOO WOO! Failure train boarding, headed for Syndey and parts beyond.
I don't play survival horror so i'm not in the know, SH:H is out already? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3201 Joined: 22 Aug 2008 |
Came out September 30th in the US, comes out October 30th in the EU according to wikipedia. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 4239 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 | Well, I've never played a Silent Hill game myself so I don't think I would end up playing it regardless. But the cencorship here sickens me! On the topic of Yahtzee: If anything, he should be able to pull a bit of weight if he were to attack our cencorship. Let's just hope he has something to say on the subject. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1525 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 |
As I understand it, it's just some dick from the south mucking it up for the rest of Austrailia, because unanimous decision is needed to revise the standards...or something. |
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Silent Hill: Homecoming Banned In Australia
This is getting a little repetitive: Silent Hill: Homecoming is the latest game to fall victim to Australia's ban-happy censors.
GameSpot has the news that the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification has refused to issue a classification for the upcoming game, thereby banning its sale in the country. The OFLC website doesn't provide information about reasons for the ban, but an Atari spokesman said the censors took issue with "the high impact of Silent Hill's violence," citing examples such as "copious blood spray in the game, decapitations, partially dismembered corpses, numerous scenes of attacks, fights, torture and death." Previous Silent Hill titles released in Australia have been rated MA15+, the country's highest available rating for videogames.
Silent Hill: Homecoming was originally set for release in Australia in November, but the spokesman said those plans are now on hold "until early next year" while the publisher has discussions with Konami about possible changes that could be made to the game in order to satisfy Australian law. The game is coming out on September 30 in North America and October 30 in Europe for the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC.
2008 hasn't been the best year ever for gamers Down Under; Silent Hill: Origins is just the latest in a long and silly line of games to fall afoul of government censors. Other banned titles include Fallout 3, Shellshock 2 and Dark Sector, although Fallout was eventually edited to accommodate the delicate, ladylike sensibilities of Australian gamers, as was Grand Theft Auto IV.
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