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TheKittenStrangler
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I just got enough money to buy either of them but I'm not sure which one to get. I want the PSP for its music, ability to play videos and play games but I want the DS more because I heard its game are much better but it can't do anything else. If anyone has both of them or just has one and really likes it, can you share with me which is the better choice?

SatansBestBuddy
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I will say this now, there is no better, there is only different.

The DS does, most assuradly, have the larger collection of great games, but PSP is catching up, and it's future release schedule is much more promising in my eyes than the DS's.

CyberAkuma
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Uuuhh... I don't know where you've possibly heard of that, but you can play Music, Videos and games on the Nintendo DS. All you need is a flash card, a cartridge that allows the NDS to run unsigned code and violá. It runs audio, video, emulators, NDS games, you name it.

TheKittenStrangler
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You can play music and videos on the DS?? Are you for real real not for play play(are you serious)!?

CyberAkuma
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You can play audio and video using a free opensource videoplayer called 'Moonshell'
http://www.themanfromdelmonte.co.uk/nintendo-ds/nintendo-ds-moonshell-dpg.htm

Moonshell supports most MP3s and as for videos you need a special format called 'DPG'. The software comes with some converting programs that help you convert your videos to that specific format and resolution.

Look, if you need help regarding this issue then by all means PM me since this is getting kind of out of topic. (this is a gaming forum after all) but I really think you should take your time and look up what features the consoles have before deciding what you want, specially if this is an important issue to you. This also applies to information regarding modification of the consoles and third-party applications for them.

runtheplacered
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I would decide for yourself what types of games you are interested in, and then look at the line-ups.. both current and future releases for both systems. Because when it comes down to it, that's what really tends to matter.

I personally prefer the DS, but I have no idea what kinds of games you're into.

Seano95
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I have a DS, and I've loved it since I got it. I probably would have liked a PSP just as much, but DS was more within my price range at the time and I liked the 'innovation' better. But that's my opinion.

Please, for the love of all that is good, buy a system for the games, not brand loyalty. I'm pretty sure you're not going to go 'zomg nieeeeeentendo/P14Y574510n for da wiiien' But it's a general comment.

Yes, the DS can play other things than games, but you need specific hardware that comes separately, isn't Nintendo endorsed and costs as much as the DS it's self, or more, in most cases. Not worth the hassle, again in my opinion.

Anyway, in summary; Go with whatever you want. If you really want something that plays videos and music however, try an Ipod or similar, because they're purpose built for that sort of thing.

hickwarrior
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Well, what kind of games do you like to play? and do you really want it to have to play videos, music and games? Ask yourself these questions.

If you like music and video, but alreayd got an ipod, or something, then you shouldn't bother with music and videos. If all of what i've said is sub par when it comes to video games, then go for the DS. Hope it's clear enough.

Quistnix
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For just a couple of bucks you can get the CycloDS Evolution, which allows you to play mp3's, movies, books, ScummVM (for those old-school adventure games), emulators for a lot of consoles, Quake and Doom on your DS. But part of that was already mentioned. You might have heard of complicated patching that used to be required, but that is no longer the case.

The DS also doesn't have any loading screens, which is a big plus if you just use it for a quick gaming session in the train. And I really like the dual screens and touchscreen.

Apart from that, just look at which console better suits your gaming style.

CyberAkuma
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Seano95:
Yes, the DS can play other things than games, but you need specific hardware that comes separately, isn't Nintendo endorsed and costs as much as the DS it's self, or more, in most cases. Not worth the hassle, again in my opinion.

This is wrong.
There is a great veriety of cartridges that run unsigned code that cost everything between $20 to $150. I spend $30 on my cartridge and $10 on my MicroSD card. (Total Cost: $40)
The cards require very little attention once they are running (no patching needed) and all that is required to make them run is a firmware update.

Please, stop jumping to conclusions about these things without really knowing what the prices are.

KaynSlamdyke
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TheKittenStrangler:
I want the PSP for its music, ability to play videos...

Which I personally use an MP3 / CD player or a DVD player for. The ability to listen to music on your gaming device or mobile phone is a bit overrated. Especially when a £20 iPod immitator can hold more than a days music needs nowadays.

Gaming first and foremost, I'd say the DS. The stylus can be seen as a bit gimmicky (especially for some of the earlier games), but there'll be enough in the games catalogue to keep you interested in the system, the price difference will allow you to buy an extra game or two for it, and as someone said above it's fast enough. Even if you're like me and won't touch homebrew for fear of destroying hardware, the DS offers enough fun as it is even if it misses out out-of-the-box music and video playing.

Seano95
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CyberAkuma:

Seano95:
Yes, the DS can play other things than games, but you need specific hardware that comes separately, isn't Nintendo endorsed and costs as much as the DS it's self, or more, in most cases. Not worth the hassle, again in my opinion.

This is wrong.
There is a great veriety of cartridges that run unsigned code that cost everything between $20 to $150. I spend $30 on my cartridge and $10 on my MicroSD card. (Total Cost: $40)
The cards require very little attention once they are running (no patching needed) and all that is required to make them run is a firmware update.

Please, stop jumping to conclusions about these things without really knowing what the prices are.

Ah, but I'm living way over here in Australia, so add 20 - 50% plus shipping(which can be as much as the item.). Suddenly, even the cheapest, nastiest ones are out of range for someone not earning much in the way of cash.

But that's not even the point, the point is that it's money you could be spending on games instead, and the benefits of being able to listen to music and watch videos on your DS are much more easily obtained on something purpose built for the task.

CyberAkuma
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While this is true that listening to audio/watching video should be on a portable machine built for the task, modding the NDS can even be worth it for its other features such as emulators and running abandonware classical PC games. There's even third-party web-browsers for the NDS that are even better than the one for the PSP. (which seems strange to me)

As far as the costs go, I live in Sweden, probably the most epensive country in the world next to Norway, and even I got the NDS flashcard and cartridge for 40 bucks. (shipping is free)
Seems odd to me that it would be expensive in Australia concidering that the manufacturers that make these cards are located in Hong Kong, which is way closer to Australia than bloody Sweden in the north pole.

Darren Grey
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Whilst enjoying music/videos on the PSP might be nice, I imagine it's quite an expensive extra (though I assume there are illicit ways out there to save you money). If it means that much to you then I'm sure you'll find enough good games on the PSP to make it a worthty investment. There's a fair number of good exclusive titles for it, and you should have a look and see if there's any you particularly favour.

However the DS does have a very nice catalog of titles at the moment. The special touchscreen features may seem gimmicky or even forced in some games, but in others they feel very natural, and are a nicer way to play than using the buttons. Some games even go so far as to use them in more fun and exciting ways (Trauma Centre for instance, where you are using the stylus as a scalpel or some other surgical instrument whilst racing against the clock). You might want to try this out somewhere to see if this sort of thing would appeal for you, or if you prefer more traditional gaming (which the DS does still offer of course, but I'll admit some games push the new features too hard to the point they can annoy you). Built in WiFi is also nice on the DS, and the browser you can get for it is pretty decent (not without flaws mind, but handy when you're out and about).

hickwarrior
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i dunno, but the wifi title i would use, is pokemon only. Wifi is nice, and allthough psp got it, it isn't used much like the web browser.

Unless you like being very competitive over the internet, but i don't see myself using it much.

jeoda
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I only have the PSP, but being able to look at Youtube at work is great ,and emailing my friends from my secret hotspot is the bomb. Any one know if DS can view youtube?

CyberAkuma
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The Nintendo DS browser doesn't support flash or shockwave, so nope. Doesn't work that way.
The browser in it is very crude and primitive. Not even the first party browsers supports flash/shockwave/animation - and that one they charge $40 for.

Seano95
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CyberAkuma:
While this is true that listening to audio/watching video should be on a portable machine built for the task, modding the NDS can even be worth it for its other features such as emulators and running abandonware classical PC games. There's even third-party web-browsers for the NDS that are even better than the one for the PSP. (which seems strange to me)

As far as the costs go, I live in Sweden, probably the most epensive country in the world next to Norway, and even I got the NDS flashcard and cartridge for 40 bucks. (shipping is free)
Seems odd to me that it would be expensive in Australia concidering that the manufacturers that make these cards are located in Hong Kong, which is way closer to Australia than bloody Sweden in the north pole.

It seems strange, but who am I to question the logic of the people charging me three arms and a leg for my gaming? Take the PS3 for example. On launch, it was $1000 dollars. If it had been marked up properly from American to Australin dollars, it should have only been $800. Ish. Tell me that it costs 200 bucks each to ship 700 000 PS3's and I'll slap you one. It seems that everyone who Dosn't live in Japan or America gets royally screwed when it comes to this sort of thing. (third quater next year for Brawl, anyone?)

I'm also running on the assumption that if you were going to buy something like that, you'd go for middle to top of the range to safe guard against your DS being cooked.

And emulation would be nice, as well as running older games, but then again I can get my Vista computer to run Monkey Island 3, so I'm set. Maybe if you were a retro addict, but again, I think there are easier ways.

But when it boils down to it, if you want to use homebrew for your DS, then you should. I don't, you do, neither of us are wrong.

Virgil
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TheKittenStrangler:
I just got enough money to buy either of them but I'm not sure which one to get. I want the PSP for its music, ability to play videos and play games but I want the DS more because I heard its game are much better but it can't do anything else. If anyone has both of them or just has one and really likes it, can you share with me which is the better choice?

Well, I have both, and I've found that my DS gets a lot more use than my PSP. The main reasons are that the DS has much much better battery life, a larger library of good games to choose from (especially once you factor in GBA games), and a more frequent schedule of game releases.

That said, if you can find games you'll enjoy, either system will be a lot of fun. Neither is an outright bad option. Your best bet is to take a look at the games available, and choose based on that.

For what it's worth, I don't use the PSP to play movies or music (I have a Zune for both, which is much better as a media player). I also don't use it to surf the net, as I find the web browser to be just as slow, and more annoying to use, as the one on my cellphone. If you were going to take advantage of those capabilities, you might like the PSP more.

LordLocke
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I'm probably one of the oddities out there, but I own both and prefer the PSP.

Part of it is the games- the DS just doesn't have an answer for stuff like Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max, Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection or other fighting games yet, which is one of my preferred genres on the go. The DS doesn't have games that really match up well in the 3D action or ARPG genres either, which makes up most of my PSP library outside fighters. The fact that it can double as an MP3 player is also a bonus- it's only 'pretty good' as far as music playback goes, especially if you don't have at least a gig stick for it... but I got a 4 gig, so it works out great for me.

The DS has some great games- I probably have one or two MORE titles for the DS then I do for the PSP- and it still has a lot of play, but the PSP is the one I pick up by default when going for an evening out most of the time, and it's the one I've definitely logged more hours into.

sergeantz
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Quistnix:
For just a couple of bucks you can get the CycloDS Evolution, which allows you to play mp3's, movies, books, ScummVM (for those old-school adventure games), emulators for a lot of consoles, Quake and Doom on your DS. But part of that was already mentioned. You might have heard of complicated patching that used to be required, but that is no longer the case.

The DS also doesn't have any loading screens, which is a big plus if you just use it for a quick gaming session in the train. And I really like the dual screens and touchscreen.

Apart from that, just look at which console better suits your gaming style.

The PSP has many of the same features as those described here, at an extra cost of roughly zero dollars. You can play movies and music pretty much out of the box. You can also boot up emulators as well. I've had SNES, Genesis, NES, and currently have PSX loaded up. However, you need to do some research on that, as it involves messing around with the firmware. Like with Nintendo, this is not approved by Sony.

Quistnix
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sergeantz:

Quistnix:
For just a couple of bucks you can get the CycloDS Evolution, which allows you to play mp3's, movies, books, ScummVM (for those old-school adventure games), emulators for a lot of consoles, Quake and Doom on your DS. But part of that was already mentioned. You might have heard of complicated patching that used to be required, but that is no longer the case.

The DS also doesn't have any loading screens, which is a big plus if you just use it for a quick gaming session in the train. And I really like the dual screens and touchscreen.

Apart from that, just look at which console better suits your gaming style.

The PSP has many of the same features as those described here, at an extra cost of roughly zero dollars. You can play movies and music pretty much out of the box. You can also boot up emulators as well. I've had SNES, Genesis, NES, and currently have PSX loaded up. However, you need to do some research on that, as it involves messing around with the firmware. Like with Nintendo, this is not approved by Sony.

Great, considering the PSP is a lot more expensive this means they have roughly the same features for roughly the same price. But the PSP has more processing power, the DS has two screens and touch. (I'm curious tho, can you play Monkey Island on the PSP and if yes, how is it controlled?)

I personally only have a DS, but that's because I couldn't care less about racing and beat 'm ups.

All in all, the decision isn't about features, but about the kind of game you prefer.

Allan53
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Well, I haven't played the PSP, but the DS seems to have very limited repetoire of GOOD games. It seems to appeal to casual gamers and kids.

That's just what I've seen, which I'm sure is far from definitive.

dannyodwyer
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DS DS DS
Im not a nintendo fanboy (not even close) but i bought a psp on launch day and apart from Street Fighter, Loco Roco & Katamari, i use it as a an MP3 player with a snazzy screen.

if u like games and not wasting money, DS your life up.

CyberAkuma
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I heard the Popstation was real fun...

 
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