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Muckraker  Posts: 285 Joined: 12 Sep 2007     | |
Paperboy Posts: 20 Joined: 26 Nov 2007 | I really dislike Nintendo. 1. They are focusing on gamers in the ages 12-15, so (call me imature if you like) but there are no blood, no really bad ass sceans and it feels like the script is stolen from an old batman episode. 2. They never really do something new, they just follow the same storys all over again. Mario, Zelda and Metroid. Sure these games is alot of fun but its not really impresive if your one of the biggest game sellers in the world to just make remakes... 3. They made Wii... I hate Wii! Wii is a sutpid excuse too be a gamer and stil bee cool enough too call other people neards and feel good about it. Serious when i play is just want to sit in my cough and just chill. Gamers dont want to bounce around, lookling as a dancer from riverdance. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 162 Joined: 22 Nov 2007    | I don't care. I own a DS, and a Wii. Not because they are by Nintendo, but because the Wii provide lots of partygame fun and the DS allows for quick on-the-move gaming without having to wait while the level is loading. I care more about game companies then about console manufacturers. Almost all platforms allow for great gaming, if the game developers are good enough. That why I tend to like developers like Valve and Troika Games, while I couldn't care less about the difference between Nintendo and Sony. Edit: Rent, you are immature. |
Muckraker  Posts: 293 Joined: 15 Nov 2007 | Nintendo and I broke up after the N64. We got back together for a short while during the whole Gamecube thing, but it proved to be a mistake. I've flirted with the Wii, but we're not seeing each other. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 134 Joined: 7 Sep 2007  | I'm something of a Nintendo fanboy. Maybe it's because myself, and an awful lot of other people, simply would not be gamers if we'd never played a Nintendo game before. I never really care about video games till I played Ocarina of Time, but when I did, suddenly, I'm caring about nothing but. It's my number one hobby now, and it really is thanks to a great game made by Nintendo. But the thing is that, for a while now, Nintendo hasn't been doing anything of note in the software side of things. We had about twice as many great Nintendo first party releases in the first year of the GC then for the same year in the Wii. And what's worse, we had at least triple the number of great games from third parties in the same time frame on the GC vs the Wii. I haven't bought a Wii yet, though my Metriod addiction almost got through to me, and I'm sure the temptation of Brawl will see me shoving $279 into a vending machine to get a shiny new Wii. But then I look on the store shelves and see nothing but bland game after bad game after pointless port, with only the occasional Nintendo game making an effort to be good, followed by a Nintendo made pointless port of a GC game they never released. So label me as confused, cause I honestly can't say whether I still like them or not... |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 96 Joined: 5 Dec 2007  | Quist, you do know that Nintendo makes games, right? Right? As for me, I think they're at the least keeping pace with the console manufacturer standard (if there are enough players for there to even be a standard), and they have some really cool ideas that they demonstrate can be implemented well (coincidentally, they also demonstrate they can be implemented badly on occasion). I'd like to see what happens when they open up the Virtual Console thing to independent developers as they'd talked about before the Wii's release, though I expect that will be at least a few months yet before that comes to fruition. And let's not forget the DS's wireless method: Two people with two DS units can play the same game together so long as ONE player has the cart? That sounds like something you should have to install a modchip for, and it's so awesome that Nintendo seems to consider it normal behavior. As a game developer, Nintendo has found itself a nice place to sit, and it ain't moving. Which is good and bad--the games they make are, on their own, quite good, make no mistake about that. But they're also fairly unchanging. Mario Galaxy is Mario 64 with weird gravity issues and timed powerups (Oh god, how I hate timed powerups). Zelda: Twilight Princess is Wind Waker, except you trade your boat for a dog (which, admittedly, is less annoying, except for the parts of the game where you can't STOP being a dog). Really, the only halfway original title I've seen Nintendo put out for the Wii is Super Paper Mario, and Nintendo doesn't seem to have been very clear on what it wanted that game to be. Was it an action game? Or did they want to drown you in talky-text? (Granted I have no idea what Nintendo's DS offerings look like, as I have never owned one. Maybe they're better on that end? Meh.) Nintendo is like those hot librarian girls. They're very different in style from the rest of their environment, and they look really good and are really fun for a while. But when you discover they don't actually have anything deeper, that they're not hiding anything under that nerdly child-friendly curiosity, that that's who they really are--then it's kind of ho-hum, no matter how good they look. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 74 Joined: 19 Dec 2007   | They impressed me with the Wii controls but that's about it. The rest of the console needed to be as decent as the controller, because as soon as the other consoles make even small price drops to their systems, you'll see gamers going for those instead. When it used to be Sega or Nintendo I was always a Sega person. It felt like the Sega consoles even then, in the world of 2d graphics, were the more serious machines. I have nothing against Nintendo, just to me, with every console war, they've always had the weaker machine. 64 vs Playstation, Gamecube vs Playstation 2 vs Xbox, and the current generation of systems. I think they've finally made a machine that actually stands out as being different rather than just the kiddy option, but I feel that will wear off soon enough. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 515 Joined: 13 Dec 2007 |
1. Manhunt 2, Scarface, Godfather: Blackhand Edition, Mortal Kombat: Armaggeddon, Resident Evil 4, and Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles should sate your thirst for blood. Yes, I know, only 1 game on that list is Wii exclusive, but that doesn't change the fact the Wii does have those games. 2. Lots of companies are guilty of this, not just nintendo. I mean, a lot of the heavily anticipated games coming out soon or that are already out are sequels. GTA 4, MGS 4, Halo 3, Final Fantasy (what is it, 13? With all these sequels and spinoffs, they're catching up to Mega Man.) Tekken 6, Virtua Fighter 5. 3 When I'm playing the Wii, I sit in my folding chair and just chill. I only need to make slight, precise movements with my right arm in order to blow zombies heads off in Umbrella Chronicles, and occasional slashing movements with the nunchuck to slash with the knife. You only need to stand up if you're playing something like Wii Sports or WarioWare. While I don't care too much for Mario, Metroid, or Zelda, I do like me some Smash Bros., StarFox, and F-Zero, as well as games that mainly use the remote for aiming and shooting. EDIT: I own a Sega Master System, Turbo Grafx 16, N64, Dreamcast, Gamecube, and Wii. I don't think I would have regretted getting a PS2 instead of a Cube (for some Shinobi and Devil May Cry), but then again, I don't regret getting a Cube (F-Zero GX, Smash Bros, Paper Mario). |
Anonymous Source Posts: 8 Joined: 12 Sep 2007 | I think that Nintendo knows what style fits them . Despite having systems that people describe as kiddy and not mature enough they keep coming back. So they gotta be doing something right. People don't seem to look at systems objectively,instead they resort to opinionism saying a platform is a failure because they don't like it, or compare its sales to that of another platform's or worse yet its features....Dang brb |
Beat Writer  Posts: 144 Joined: 3 Oct 2007 | Nintendo is the easily overlooked girl in the room wearing T-shirt and jeans. She's modest, fun when you get her by herself, and you wouldn't feel weird about her meeting your mom. Then there're the other two in the cock-tease dresses with WAY to much make-up on. Boy don't they think alot of themselves? Sure they make look good in a Ron Jeremy video, but you'd never let them meet your parents. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 5 Joined: 11 Dec 2007 | I am a long-long-long-long time Nintendo fan who has recently become very wary of their products. I don't have a Wii, partly thanks to the shortage and partly thanks it having few worth while games. I do have some interest in grabbing one someday, thanks to Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros, No More Heroes, and Super Mario Galaxy, but those games aren't enough to make me fight some soccer mom for the last Wii at my local Gamestop. I just feel that Nintendo has abandoned me, really. Though they still offer a few games I'd like to play and I'd love to give them a second chance, I can tell with the Wii and the DS that Nintendo is looking to please a new audience, and it's not the audience that grew up playing their games. It's a bit difficult to explain, as I won't completely write them off until I actually put some real play time into the Wii. Nevertheless, I know I will never be as much of a Nintendo fan as I was during the past three generations when they catered, for the most part, to real gamers. The DS is mostly a lost cause for me. It gets a few good games a year, but only the third-party ones are worth any price. I've found that games like Metroid and Mario Kart have become serious rehashes on the DS and don't offer anything particularly interesting. I'm a major fan of the series presented, like Metroid Prime, Super Mario Bros., and Mario Kart; but the DS versions are extremely boring. That feeling may carry over into their corresponding Wii titles, but I won't make that judgment yet. The only thing that ever peaks my interest on the DS is a game put out by a third-party that has some unique twist or will surely have strong gameplay. I guess to summarize, I'm on the fence but slowly slipping off onto the "don't like them" side. |
Paperboy Posts: 22 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 | They make good games but Nintendo seems to be a company based around doing the exact same things over and over. After a certain point it's hard to not get tired of yet anouther Mario, or Zelda or whatever horse they're beating to death next, even if they are quality games. Add to that the fact that what is original, the gesture controls for both systems, have ruined more games than they have ever actually helped. There are good things too, they just get obscured by the bad over time. Still happy I own the DS, wish I had the power to turn my Wii into 250$ worth of different video game equipment. Probably change my mind for one really good game(SMG wasn't it). |
Beat Writer Posts: 162 Joined: 22 Nov 2007 |
I couldn't have said it better. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 151 Joined: 7 Nov 2007 | I haven't played much diverse games in like more than half a year, but that doesn't stop me from answering this thread. Nintendo can go a long way with their new systems, but the dead horses they beat are solely for people who haven't played on of those titles yet. I can't think of any other way to explain that, which leads me to the new gamer point. New gamers is all well untill you think about it, as shown in this thread. But even so, all the other games don't seem to innovate either. Maybe innovation to the point where it's all cinematic feeling, and you're part of the main story. Allthough, i just don't like photo realistic graphics, allthough it's fun for a while. As long as it's not my second life on earth or anything. So i think nintendo for me would do well. Because i haven't played something that i haven't chewed and spit out and chewed again. |
Paperboy Posts: 22 Joined: 18 Oct 2007 |
Did you get that one from the "Nintendo Troll Post Archive" or do you really believe it? If you really believe it, I pity you. |
Paperboy Posts: 25 Joined: 10 Oct 2007 | Nintendo made me a gamer and for that I thank them. Everyday. When I push the power button on my wii. Strangely, I don't get tired from what other people call "replaying the same game". It's the added features and the feeling these games portray that get's me every time. It's the music, the look and feel. I swear, the first time I booted up Twilight princess I scented something... the same smell I senced when playing through Ocarina of Time the first time. You don't hear people mentioning the "MGS feeling" - or Halo feeling. Or at least, not as much as classic or new-age nintendo games get to gamers. And as long as they make games around the same characters with the same outstanding quality what is there to complain about? Not to mention that new high quality IP's arrive at every platform. The NES started it with Metroid, Zelda and Mario among others. The SNES had Super mario Kart. The N64 - Super smash brothers. The gamecube had Pikmin... we will just have to see and wait what the Wii will bring. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 482 Joined: 24 Oct 2007 | I like Nintendo. I don't mind more Metroid, Zelda or Mario (as long as the games are good) because I will never get tired of them. Nintendo always has something under their sleeves and it's always exiting to see what they will do next. And by the way ALL video game publishers and developers "beat on the dead horse", it's just that Nintendo has been around longer, but don't tell me that the Halo, Final Fantasy, Tekken, Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Metal Gear, Sonic, Dungeon Siege, Baldur's Gate, Street Fighter, Virtua Fighter, Dead or Alive, Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, etc. franchises are not "beating on their dead horses" (and I'm positive that they will continue to do so in the years to come). So while a lot of people complain about "beating on the dead horse" you guys have to admit that ALL of you are gonna come back to join the beating (choose you're favorite franchise in that case). |
Reviewer  Posts: 168 Joined: 4 Oct 2007 | I used to be leery of Nintendo. Their stranglehold on people who developed software for them struck me the wrong way. Fortunately, competing systems emerged giving developers a choice, and their command and control strategies seemed to have eased off since then. These days, I'm very much in favor of them for bringing my hobby to the masses. The more people who play videogames, the less I have to feel embarrassed for engaging in a "kids" hobby with my leisure time as opposed to more "grown-up" pursuits (which, ironically, seemed mostly to revolve around watching other people play games.. football, hockey, etc.) |
Muckraker  Posts: 237 Joined: 9 Sep 2007 | i dont like, and never really liked Nintendo much, the only thing they got running for me is awesome SNES music :P I own a gameboy, but that was only because i a crazing pokemon fan when i was a child. There is one exclusion from this, though i think this franchise got killed long ago (cept for SSMB) KIRBY. Kirby is the shit, and will always be my favourite Nintendo character/franchise :) and on that note, we hit the music: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EeIzqXIjhAg |
Copy Clerk Posts: 53 Joined: 3 Oct 2007 | Me and Nintendo had a far better relationship when I was a kid. Nintendo always had and always will make great games, but I've never been terribly enamored by them. When most people use the term. "It's Zelda" or "It's Mario" to tell me why a game's good, my usual reply is "So?" The 64-bit installments of Zelda and Mario in particular are what drove me to PC gaming for the better part of a generation- any time I hear "It's like Mario 64" or "It's like OoT" tend to be instant put-offs... especially when it's true. (Someone loaned me Twilight Princess while I was playing through Okami- I got maybe three hours in total during all the times I'd try and set Okami down the play it, just to invariably go back to the far more interesting game before I had to give TP back two weeks later) I still generally play their games quite a bit- for better or for worse, one of my closest friends can best be described as a Nintenzealot, so we see far more Mario Party and SSB:M then is really to my liking- but I generally don't feel like many of their recent releases are anything I have to buy a console over. I got a DS, but haven't bought a title for it in a while, and I don't feel a terrible urge to get a Wii when I can spend that $250 instead on some of the slew of good titles coming out for my 360. Especially when the Wii release list right now is SSBB, Mario Kart and... yeah. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 146 Joined: 25 Sep 2007 |
- Agreed, except mine seemed to have happened a little earlier. I started out by dating an original Gameboy. Then I moved onto her sister, the Gameboy Pocket. We broke up after that and I stayed away from the Nintendo family for years. Then the Wii came around. We had a relationship for about 3 months before I sold her on the Internet to pay bills. Now, I'm doing both the Xbox360 and PS3 and my life is great! ^^ |
Red Guard  Posts: 1558 Joined: 16 Dec 2007    | Looking at it from a purely hardware perspective I have to say that Nintendo isn't doing itself any favors by aiming so low on the system specs. It's alright right now to look like a slightly upgraded ps2, but I have a feeling that this system is already getting gray around the temples. Nintendo has cool IPs, but I have saved the princess, and zelda for 20 years now. This time I have the chance to do it again, only this time waving my arms in the air like an indecisive fencer fighting off a swarm of bees. IPs be damned I need something new from Nintendo. For me buying a console was reliant on one thing, can it play GTA 4? If the answer is no, I must bid you ado good system. The DS on the other hand is awesome, great price and awesome non-committal games that are perfect for bus or subway rides. I just wish they'd focus a little less on minigames and tamagochi(sp) clones. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 62 Joined: 7 Nov 2007 | Nintendo molested me. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 1 Joined: 19 Dec 2007 |
I registered on this forum specifically to say: That's an awesome paragraph, and I love you for it. But since I'm already posting, I'll chip in to the general discussion as well. I've always admired Nintendo's ability to turn out games that parents have such little to object to, other than the amount of time their children spend playing them. They've made a conscious choice not to drown their gamers in blood and sin like some developers, and that's pretty cool. Don't get me wrong - I love the GTA series (for example) - but I don't think it's something I could/should play when my kids are in the room. |
Paperboy Posts: 19 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 | I never undertsood the hate for Nintendo. They're a game publisher just like any other, and you can do worse like with Sony and their hatred of all things 2D. I used to be the inquisitive Nintendo fanboy, but nowdays it's more about the games themselves than the companies. (And the money.) I don't feel the need to proselytize my prefered system of choice, at the same time I don't think other should give the said console the unwarranted bashings. That, or I think hating Nintendo has become a trend nowdays by people desparately trying to seek attention. It's not that that company doesn't have faults, but then again, what company hasn't? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1312 Joined: 12 Sep 2007   | I've never owned a Nintendo console or game, but I have a pretty good opinion of the company. Rather than trying to compete against the XBox 360 and PS3 (and probably losing badly) they changed the paradigm and became wildly successful again. So even though their games leave me cold, I admire them as a truly innovative company which is advancing the industry and broadening the gaming audience. (And thereby lessening the chance that some asshat politician will take away my games.) |
Anonymous Source Posts: 4 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 | I despise Nintendo for one reason. The Wii. The Wii is the bane of my gaming existance. All my mates have Wii's and I don't know why, their graphics make me cringe, it's like they've taken Nintendo 64 and added a pain in the ass controller that doesn't even work! Sure, on all the promo's and trailers released by gaming companies about their Wii games, everything works great with the flick of a wrist. Well, I rented out Mortal Kombat: Armageddon last night and well, if by flick of your wrist you mean violently swining your arm in a motion that can only be described as "The Windmill" then sure. But, it's the same in EVERY Wii game, take for instance Mario Party 900 where you get to play loads of repetitive uncreative mini-games, especially the fucking clock game. You have to turn your "Wiimote" in the direction you want to turn the clock hands, but then the bastard doesn't stop. The Wii should come with the Disclaimer; "Warning, May cause Carpal Tunnel Syndrome." |
Beat Writer  Posts: 168 Joined: 21 Nov 2007 |
As odd as that sounds, I think you've made the perfect point. I've always liked Nintendo. They've always been able to provide decent to superb video-gaming for near 2 decades. They've always revolutionized the way we play our games as well. Not to mention they've pretty much defined and owned the hand-held market. All the haters out there that say Wii is a crappy system and that no one likes it are either retarded or are ignoring the explosive sales it's had since day 1. They STILL can't keep them in stock even with 2 new production plants now making them. It says a lot that it's out-sold the 360 in spades even though the 360's had a years head start. I think it's time the haters shut the hell up and come to terms with the fact that maybe, just maybe, nintendo knows what the hell it's doing. Besides, with them bringing more and more non-gamers into the market, that can only bode well for us as it means a huge influx of funds going to gaming companies, who can then provide more games for us. Win win. I'm by no means saying they're perfect. They've made some games as of late I can only describe as "aggravatingly bland", but they've also made a few that can sit at the top in quality with the other greats of the industry. oh, and rent. They have places that help with illiteracy. You may want to look them up instead of sitting on your "cough" playing video games. As for the others that complain about Wii and that say, quote, "you have to move your arms and fling your wrists? how gay". god forbid you get up off your fat asses and move. you people want to experience true VR one day? Well this is the next logical step forward from the antiquated controller of yester-years design. You think with the advent of true VR (if it ever happens) you'll be whisked away into a virtual world in a manner not unlike that of the matrix's cerebral implants or VR helmets/suits, but then control yourself in said virtual world with a controller? Lol. P.S. Sorry for the rant, but sometimes they can be very therapeutic. ;) |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 3 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 | Nintendo will always be the best Gaming company in the World. They were the first, and they will be the last if it ever comes to that. I'm not a fanboy either as I own an Xbox 360 which has given me the Three Red Lights a total of 4 times. |
Muckraker Posts: 293 Joined: 15 Nov 2007 |
Nintendo was by no means the first video game company. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 3 Joined: 20 Dec 2007 |
The first TRUE gaming company. As in popularity. Sega or Atari could not have been the most popular as they both no longer have consoles. |
Muckraker Posts: 293 Joined: 15 Nov 2007 |
I see what you mean. In many ways Nintendo will always be the video game company to a lot of people. How many of us have parents, or grandparents that call every console a Nintendo? |
This ought to be good. What do the people of the Escapist think whenever someone mentions Nintendo. Do you like them? Do you Dislike them? Me, I am bit of a strange one. Though I enjoy many other games from different companies, in the back of my mind I have accepted that Nintendo is the greatest video game company in the world and always will be. Why you ask? Hmmm...thats the thing I cant really explain it at the moment. I will wait on a couple of responses before I respond