MGG=REVIEWS-SHADOWRUN

FASA STUDIOS i have never heard of them before and don't really want to know about them but they have created a great game out
of know were but because i haven't heard of them doesn't mean that they cant create a good game, anyway

While playing a game like this you get really addicted to the game because- it puts the word teamwork into good use, when finding that one of your team mates is down and you have to resurrect him from the dead before the enemy destroy his body,
you also find that when you play that it gives you choices. Now the choices may not look like there but play and you can see them etc: when all your team is slaughtered you have a choice to save them or take the artifact and get away.

When you start you play the tutorials (you don't have to but i did) and these show you the different races and abilities,
anyway from what seemed to be the story two corporations are fighting for artifacts witch give them ultimate power.
Each team consist of two teams,lineage and RNA(which is like rebels vs the empire). Each team fight each other for the artifact.

One of the most annoying things is the katana when someone See's all they have to do is run away and keep shooting you, so only a skilled person with melle would be good with the katana.

Wen you wield a weapon like a gun you go into first person mode and it go's like a first peron shooter and if you use a power
like invisibility for instance then you go into third person(also includes katana).

The powers are also a bit useless there's power that can send you invisible and invincible but the enemy can just follow you and when you change back you spend time changing back into 1st person and by that time they have killed you (really i don't think they thought of that).

when you die they make sure people know, because there will be a big,huge stain of blood allover the wall (if you kill someone tho this means you pwnd his ass!!!) but the blood graphics's are really extreme i find this really cool and also quite disturbing for those who think of me that way.

ever since i got the game i have been playing it, it is a really good game to play for those multiplyer lover who just love to work as a team because this game put you in the thick of team work

GAMEPLAY: 8
ONLINE:9
GRAHICS:9.5

REALLY GOOD GAME!!!

you really should try this game!!!

THANK YOU..

Great. Stop.

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MGG=REVIEWS:
they have created a great game out of know were

So they made this game out of know were?! NO WHERE!!!!!!!!! Go back to school! Also learn to put ',' and '.' in there as well to mix it up a bit!

Shadowrun is hardly worth a rental. This is misleading.

Follow this 2 step procedure after reading MGG=Reviews:

1) Ram face against brick wall.
2) Repeat.

OMG you are getting boring, no offesns but is this what you do just say bad stuff all day and night,
the last ones were two quick i have been working the last three nights on this one, and your still not bloody happy jusus christ all you have done since day one is bad mouth it, what have i done wrong just tell me for god sake.

The improvements between your frist review and this one are huge, yet you still don't use so much as the basics of grammar and have nothing that could be called content, so I have no choice but to call you a ten-year-old-troll.

You can stop now.

MGG=REVIEWS:
OMG you are getting boring, no offesns but is this what you do just say bad stuff all day and night,
the last ones were two quick i have been working the last three nights on this one, and your still not bloody happy jusus christ all you have done since day one is bad mouth it, what have i done wrong just tell me for god sake.

Remeber the ','s and the '.'s. Also it's Jesus not jusus, too not two and... I'm giving up. Stop.

eggdog14:
Follow this 2 step procedure after reading MGG=Reviews:

1) Ram face against brick wall.
2) Repeat.

I'd prefer to do this one step procedure BEFORE reading MGG=Reviews:

1) Don't read MGG=Reviews.

While still nowhere near a professional level, your reviews are visually improving. Perhaps a little congratulations are in order, well done, the effort is dimly shining through the grey slog of inexperience. It is still somewhat lacking though, what is popular among other players? What do you personally hate? Is there any unique game-play aspects that you'd have a hard time finding in other games? Another thing, I know you've read this before but, spelling and grammar is arguably the most important part in a professional review, I'm not trying to be mean but how do you expect people to take you seriously when you can't spell correctly? Use MC Word, or if you don't have it I guess you could use http://www.spellcheck.net/ although it can be pretty unreliable.

Also, why the hate? Stop reading MGG's reviews if you feel that strongly about them. The hate is getting old.

Hoax:
While still nowhere near a professional level, your reviews are visually improving. Perhaps a little congratulations are in order, well done, the effort is dimly shining through the grey slog of inexperience. It is still somewhat lacking though, what is popular among other players? What do you personally hate? Is there any unique game-play aspects that you'd have a hard time finding in other games? Another thing, I know you've read this before but, spelling and grammar is arguably the most important part in a professional review, I'm not trying to be mean but how do you expect people to take you seriously when you can't spell correctly? Use MC Word, or if you don't have it I guess you could use http://www.spellcheck.net/ although it can be pretty unreliable.

Also, why the hate? Stop reading MGG's reviews if you feel that strongly about them. The hate is getting old.

No, don't support him. We're trying hard to crush him so that he may eventually leave to another forum.

Hoax:
Also, why the hate?

If you would allow me, I would like to point you back just a few sentences prior, to where you said:

Another thing, I know you've read this before but, spelling and grammar is arguably the most important part in a professional review, I'm not trying to be mean but how do you expect people to take you seriously when you can't spell correctly?

He has not only read this before, but he has read it every single time he has posted one of these reviews. And yet, however many later we are now, he has done very, very little about it. There is a point where people realize that any attempt at constructive criticism is falling on deaf ears, and their reactions to that realization vary. Personally, I can't help but look at the reviews with the idle curiosity of a rubber-necker looking morbidly for bodies, thinking that maybe, just maybe, this will be the one where he took all the criticism to heart, and didn't end up defecating all over the forums. Others seem to just get angrier. You, well... you apparently have more faith in mankind than the rest of us, because you continue to be gently critical and encouraging, in the face of his blatant disregard for the English language.

*Note: The sentence of yours that I quoted is not grammatically perfect, nor are several of mine in response, but I'm not bothered by any of those issues, because at least our posts have some semblance of effort. No one is really asking him for perfection. We're just asking for a sign of good faith to indicate he is being up front with us about his desire to review, and to improve, as opposed to being a 12-year-old troll who simply enjoys the amount of attention he gets when he flings poo.

You're jumping into the review too quickly. Take a few moments to think about what the game is first, rather than just saying it's made by a company you've never heard of.

From what I remember from just reading previews from other sites: Shadowrun is a game about magic and technology. Humans, elves and various other creatures you'd associate more with a fantasy RPG game than a first person shooter. I don't get that impression at all from your review. I would go into it expecting a Star Wars Battlefront clone from the way you describe the factions in the game.

Try writing notes while you play. No huge amount, just bulletpoints so that when you come to review the game it's not so much just a collection of abstract thoughts.

I come out of these reviews none-the-wiser as to whether I would like the game. That's the whole point of reviewing, to give other people an idea of what to expect if they buy the game.

I think THIS is what you're all looking for, imho.

Hmm that's a bit mean as I didn't realise what that link was before I clicked it. Maybe you should make it more transparent.

Arbre:
I think THIS is what you're all looking for, imho.

Smooth. Very smooth.

sathie:
Hmm that's a bit mean as I didn't realise what that link was before I clicked it. Maybe you should make it more transparent.

Arbre:
I think THIS is what you're all looking for, imho.

'Bout time someone says what we were all thinking.

Arbre:
I think THIS is what you're all looking for, imho.

You are a king of kings good sir.

Curses, the link was reported before I could get to it.

Yeah me too, damn i missed it. By the way, Fasa studios did not just "come out of nowhere". Just because you havent heared of them, doesn't mean that they did not exist prior to your gaining knowledge of them. Do the words "Mech Assault" or "Crimson Skies" mean anything to you? Also, i own a copy of Shadowrun (unfortunately) and i can say with 100% certainty that is does not deserve the 8 - 9.5 scores that you gave it.

Larenxis:
Curses, the link was reported before I could get to it.

Larenxis, if you're referring to Arbre's link, it is actually the hyperlink assigned to the "Report" button next to the OP. Opening the link was equivalent to clicking the "Report" button. So, the mods are going to see quite a few for this particular thread next time they check.

Note: This was originally intended as a short post saying a I disagree with the below post but I apparently can't do short post. I apologize if you read the half baked version of this my finger slipped on the post button before I was done.

Enigmatic_Apple:
Shadowrun is hardly worth a rental. This is misleading.

I've been lurking these forums for a couple days because for some reason this is the only gaming site that the community internet at my parents house doesn't block. Anyways this is the first time I felt any motivation to post.

I play Shadowrun professionally and would just like to give my completely biased pov of it. Shadowrun is a horrible game for most gamers. Yeah, didn't see that coming did you? What I'm saying is that Shadowrun is a purely online multi player only game. The only resemblance of a campaign is a short training session. The game is designed requiring a large amount of teamwork making public games a painful experience and immediately turning away the casual audience. With no in game ladder the only real goal the casual gamer can have is achievements. The hit detection also turns away many casual gamers. How the hit detection works is if you see your shots hit the opponents then they hit thus the damage is sometimes behind the actual action resulting in people dieing through walls and other similar annoying experiences. Also Shadowrun has a large amount of abilities that allow players to accomplish various feats previously unheard in other shooters (example teleport); the result of this is that it takes a long time to fully understand the abilities and with only a quick play of Shadowrun one is inevitable to think that some abilities are too powerful while others are too weak when in reality they tend to be incredibly balanced. Also the abilities result in people buying bad abilities for their race the most common example of this is that you often see elves with a katana and wired reflexes despite this being perhaps the worst elf build possible. To top off shadowrun's troubled position among casual gamers the original "shadowrun" was a pen and paper game much more similar to a rpg resulting in fans of the ip feeling betrayed well before the game was even released.

So this game sucks right? NO, Fasa designed Shadowrun purely for competitive play. As they went out of business shortly after its release this clearly was a poor plan but Fasa did fulfill their goal in making a game that is great if you play fps competitively. The complexity and balance of the abilities and buy system allows the game to evolve better than any fps out there and even rival the depth of some of the greatest rts such as starcraft. Its also generally considered the most skilled fps on any console contested only by halo: ce. Shadowrun is quite simply an amazing competitive title, but that's it and a competitive title has the dilmea of needing a strong casual community to support it.

As mlg has yet to announced Shadowrun for the 08 season its future looks uncertain even for the competitive community. So before returning to my duties of lurking the forums unnoticed I'll mention some aspects Shadowrun brought to the fps genre.
Shadowrun's contributions:
-Teleport - the ability to move through walls instantly adds a whole new concept never really explored by your typical fps making movement ability much more important then it is in your normal shooter
-PC and 360 compatibility - Fasa spent much of its development time making it so PC and 360 players could play against each other on an even playing field. Although its generally considered competitively that PC has the advantage and casually 360 has the advantage the ability to play against a different platform is an impressive contribution.
-Building for competitive community doesn't pay out - sad but true

In conclusion Shadowrun is an excellent game if your a hardcore competitive fps player who is familiar with online ladders such as gamebattles. But, if your looking for a fps thats easy to pick up for occasional play with friends and has a great campaign your probably won't be able to justify Shadowruns price tag and would probably be better off picking up cod4 or halo 3.

Ryanator:
Note: This was originally intended as a short post saying a I disagree with the below post but I apparently can't do short post. I apologize if you read the half baked version of this my finger slipped on the post button before I was done.

Enigmatic_Apple:
Shadowrun is hardly worth a rental. This is misleading.

I've been lurking these forums for a couple days because for some reason this is the only gaming site that the community internet at my parents house doesn't block. Anyways this is the first time I felt any motivation to post.

I play Shadowrun professionally and would just like to give my completely biased pov of it. Shadowrun is a horrible game for most gamers. Yeah, didn't see that coming did you? What I'm saying is that Shadowrun is a purely online multi player only game. The only resemblance of a campaign is a short training session. The game is designed requiring a large amount of teamwork making public games a painful experience and immediately turning away the casual audience. With no in game ladder the only real goal the casual gamer can have is achievements. The hit detection also turns away many casual gamers. How the hit detection works is if you see your shots hitting the opponents then they hit thus the damage is sometimes behind the actual action resulting in people dieing through walls and other similar annoying experiences. Also Shadowrun has a large amount of abilities that allow players to accomplish various feats previously unheard in other shooters (example teleport) the result of this is that it takes a long time to fully understand the abilities and with only a quick play of Shadowrun one is inevitable to think that some abilities are too powerful while others are too weak when in reality they tend to be incredibly balanced. Also the abilities result in people buying bad abilities for their race the most common example of this is that you often see elves with a katana and wired reflexes despite this being perhaps the worst elf build possible. To top off shadowrun's troubled position among casual gamers the original "shadowrun" was a pen and paper game much more similar to a rpg resulting in fans of the ip feeling betrayed well before the game was even released.

So this game sucks right? NO, Fasa designed Shadowrun purely for competitive play. As they went out of business shortly after its release this clearly was a poor plan but Fasa did fulfill their goal in making a game that is great if you play fps competitively. The complexity and balance of the abilities and buy system allows the game to evolve better than any fps out there and even rival the depth of some of the greatest rts such as starcraft. Its also generally considered the most skilled fps on any console contested only by halo: ce. Shadowrun is quite simply an amazing competitive title, but that's it and a competitive title has the dilmea of needing a strong casual community to support it.

As mlg has yet to announced Shadowrun for the 08 season its future looks uncertain even for the competitive community. So before returning to my duties of lurking the forums unnoticed I'll mention some aspects Shadowrun brought to the fps genre.
Shadowrun's contributions:
-Teleport - the ability to move through walls instantly adds a whole new concept never really explored by your typical fps making movement ability much more important then it is in your normal shooter
-PC and 360 compatibility - Fasa spent much of its development time making it so PC and 360 players could play against each other on an even playing field. Although its generally considered competitively that PC has the advantage and casually 360 has the advantage the ability to play against a different platform is an impressive contribution.
-Building for competitive community doesn't pay out - sad but true

In conclusion Shadowrun is an excellent game if your a hardcore competitive fps player who is familiar with online ladders such as gamebattles. But, if your looking for a fps thats easy to pick up for occasional play with friends and has a great campaign your probably won't be able to justify Shadowruns price tag and would probably be better off picking up cod4 or halo 3.

Sorry baby, I'll give it another chance.

Enigmatic_Apple:
Sorry baby, I'll give it another chance.

Nah, you missed my point, I think. Really I'm saying give it a try (or another perhaps) if you want but, if your not going to put 50 hours+, join some sort of competitive ladder/team and really just play it a lot and play it real seriously shadowrun isn't a game for you. Anyways I have no intention of becoming a frequent member here (its a great forum I just don't have the time normally) so I'll try to resist the urge of posting to every response now.

Oh and don't call me baby... seriously thats creepy.

Ryanator:

Enigmatic_Apple:
Sorry baby, I'll give it another chance.

Nah, you missed my point, I think. Really I'm saying give it a try (or another perhaps) if you want but, if your not going to put 50 hours+, join some sort of competitive ladder/team and really just play it a lot and play it real seriously shadowrun isn't a game for you. Anyways I have no intention of becoming a frequent member here (its a great forum I just don't have the time normally) so I'll try to resist the urge of posting to every response now.

Oh and don't call me baby... seriously thats creepy.

Haha you're the first person to even take it seriously. To each his own.

wasn't there a poll that old you to stop?

Yes, indeed there was. The options consisted of the obligatory "STOP!" as well as "NO! NOT STOP!" However, much to the disappointment of many people (or the delight of those who are amused by this forum drama). Mr. Reviews has decided that he is "not stoping until escapist tell me to." When the mods are away, MGG=Reviews comes out to play.

Since there is some improvement we can simply all hope that grammar and real content are next. And as to him ceasing to write. You don't actually have to read it do you?. Or is someone standing next to you with a really big gun screwed into your ear forcing you to read his reviews?. And I know you can't be complaining about the amount of real estate the title is taking up on your screen. Besides, if this is the quality of his work at 12, just imagine how good it will be when he finishes college.

I wonder how it's possible to review Shadowrun without reffering to the fact that it's already a pen and paper RPG that has a gigantic following that felt oddly betrayed by this game. Or reffering to the fact that FASA has once again shut down and passed it's license back to Wizkids. Or how there are already two, far better, Shadowrun games out for older consoles for single players...

I can't see any actual comparison in this review between it and anything else - not just the other Shadowrun licensed products, but with games in general. There's no discussion of the actual mechanics of the game other than "The powers are also a bit useless there's power that can send you invisible and invincible but the enemy can just follow you and when you" . There's no discussion of play balance, just some barely justified opinions.

Now excuse me, but I have to meet an Orc Rigger down in lower Seattle.

please stop...

"FASA STUDIOS i have never heard of them before and don't really want to know about them..."

lolwut? You haven't heard of FASA and you couldn't be bothered to at least glance at wikipedia before you write your review? That's such a flippant and ignorant remark it makes me wonder why you are even bothering to post. You must have a very high opinion of yourself if you think that people will care about you say when you are so proud of your lack of knowledge.

I'm being harsh because this game in particular is a poorly-planned attempt at a cash-in on the Shadowrun IP. It doesn't matter if you're not a fan to begin with, it's still a bad SHADOWRUN game even if the gameplay itself is good. They use the name just to hook fans, who will discover they have been betrayed (if they don't boycott it outright). A non-fan would have been just as likely to pick the game up if it were called "Orkz wit Gunz" so why bother with the license at all?

I think people will be less angry wi