This for game play and games only, not those extra features like being able to watch movies on the PSP. (I don,t see why you would want to buy a movie to watch it on "teeny weeny Eye straino vision")

I would also like your opinion on the matter.

So Without Further ado I'll have to say DS due to the fact that the games are so superior to that of the PSP yes the Psp may have stronger internal drives. But I have played a PSP it's games and the single control stick and lack of any GREAT games(mainly because of the single control stick)Leave it in my mind the lesser of the two.

As for the DS it Has Contra, MarioKart and Mario64 Nuff said.

I was going to say DS has Contra 4, but you beat me to it.

On that note, the DS also has the original Contra and Super C. And Kirby: Canvas Curse.

Apparently, if you homebrew it properly, you can get Doom onto it.

Have to go with DS as well. Worms is the best. Oh and a little something called R4. Simply for all the homebrew games and applications... of course... ;)

I'm going with the DS as well. I got it because it was cheaper and had games I wanted to play on it.

Cooking Mama, Pokemon, Mario Bros., and more.

I tried Worms, but once the Computer showed that it has this ungodly aim with the bazooka, I just gave up and turned it in for credit.

My god 7 votes and still 100 %

I can't say much for or against the PSP, never tried one. I guess I can say the games it has never convinced me I needed one, which would be a black mark against it.

My DS on the otherhand has become my primary source of gaming, making my $3000 ubergamer PC wait its turn as I spend hours on end trying to beat Advance Wars or simply hopping around in Squeek Squad.

DS's title selection is kinda fifty-fifty-fifty... Fifty percent of the games are digital crack, fifty percent of them are retarded crap or teenybopper girl titles, and fifty percent of both mentioned halves are still available to buy... There are some epic titles out that are already discontinued and impossible to find, which kills me inside every day. Oh Custom Robo Arena... Why have you forsaken me, your humble apostle?

Anyhoo, DS wins. The DS has more good titles than I have money to buy them, and the PSP has well... There is the eye-strain movie ability, but if I wasn't willing to drop cash on high-definition discs, why the f**k would I buy ones of lower-def than standard DVD?

BaronAsh:
But I have played a PSP it's games and the single control stick and lack of any GREAT games(mainly because of the single control stick)Leave it in my mind the lesser of the two.

As for the DS it Has Contra, MarioKart and Mario64 Nuff said.

WHAAAAT??? No great games? Have you ever actually LOOKED at the PSP games on offer?

Cue rant.

Just off the top of my head: Final Fantasy Tactics, Syphon Filter, Daxter, Pursuit Force, God of War, Crisis Core, Wipeout, MGS Portable Ops, V8 Supercars, Patapon, Lumines....seriously, there's a very beefy list on offer. And sure, some games aren't for everyone and not all the games considered classics are liked by everyone, but seriously, there is such a variety of quality games on offer for the PSP. You mention Mario 64, Mario Cart and Contra...uh, weren't these games out, like, BEFORE the DS existed? Your examples make it seem like all the DS does is remake old Nintendo games...uh, yeah, that's a load of fun.

Seriously, try give us examples of new or original games on the DS...and then compare them to the PSP's collection. Not to mention that the DS was designed for the ultra casual market (especially children) while the PSP caters for more hardcore gamers, giving them not only new games but sequels/prequels of previous games as opposed to straight remakes (Look at Silent Hill, Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, God of War etc.). Sure, that doesn't apply for all PSP games (Prince of Persia is basicaly a direct remake, and Tactics is also, albeit superbly remade) but when you compare the library of new and original PSP games to DS games, there can be no competition. Jesus, who the Christ wants to play "Cooking Mama" or ANOTHER Pokemon game in this day and age? Come on Nintendo, you were popular back in the 90's but I think it's time you moved the hell on from your old franchises.

While the single analog nub can be a little awkward on the PSP, at least it allows for some form of analog control, which can impact on how a game plays immensely. Syphon Filter is an absolutely excellent game, and once you spend some time getting used to the controls, then they become simple and easy to use. That's the problem with the DS - it's for kids. No true gamer plays last-last-last gen games anymore - they test the boundaries of what gaming has to offer and experience what gaming technology can give us. If you bitch about the single analog nub without ever TRYING to use it, then you're just a Nintendo fanboy who couldn't be bothered playing real games that aren't friggin Mario related.

That's not to say that all DS games are remakes or shit. I'm sure there are a few out there that are genuine quality. But seriously, how long can this market remain dominant? How long can the DS survive in our constantly evolving world? How many more remakes of Mario Kart and Contra and all those other "classics" can there be? Once people start realising the potential of the PSP and what it can offer, then the DS will start getting stomped into the ground. Check back on this post in 12 months and see how many people vote for the outdated and out-gamed DS - my bet is that it's gonna be zero.

A more fanboy divising post certainly could not been conceived by mere man.

Agent Capone I believe now would be a good time to mention Advance wars, The new Zelda game (which I have not played), Metroid hunters, COD4 is on it (I'm pretty sure it sucks horribly),
Worms and Guitar Hero http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE0jvi_pnHs&feature=related

Well, I have to say DS because it has games to my Taste. The argument that DS games mostly remake old games is very true, just how most PSP games are PS1/2 ports or scaled down versions of PS3 games.

As for original games for the DS I will have to say the Ace Attorney Games.

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Jesus, who the Christ wants to play "Cooking Mama" or ANOTHER Pokemon game in this day and age? Come on Nintendo.

I do.

The DS got my vote, by far.

I can't decide. Both are great systems. but im gonna saaay..... DS. Even though PSP has a lot of great games, the DS has been on my person so much more.

REDPill357:
I was going to say DS has Contra 4, but you beat me to it.

On that note, the DS also has the original Contra and Super C. And Kirby: Canvas Curse.

Apparently, if you homebrew it properly, you can get Doom onto it.

Really? How?? Does it work with DS lite? or just the original one?

Easily the DS. There are literally 3 games on the PSP I want to play that are not on the PS2 (Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow, Metal Gear Acid 1&2). On the DS, there is (only going for original games here) Tetris DS, Metroid Prime Hunters, LoZ Phourglass, Contra 4, Advance Wars: Dual Strike, New Super Mario Bros., Mario Kart DS...

I say psp. Sure DS has a bunch of nintendo classics, but so does PSP with a little homebrew.

a week ago i would have said the PSP

but my mate showed me his DS and now i'm hooked, have just bought one off eBay so DS it is

I've been reading through these comments and it looks like hardly any of these people have both a DS and a PSP. I have both, So I'm going to give you my opinion on this debate.

DS: Most nintendo systems seem reliant on the usual franchises. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and the handhelds rely on pokemon, tetris, mario, zelda, metroid etc. etc. the DS is no different, while these games on DS are brilliantly entertaining, everything else seems to be mediocre. pokemon is getting repetitive as well. not that any of the others aren't. nintendo really do have to come up with something new, or everyone else in the console race is going to overtake them.

PSP: the PSP has many games that weren't also made a decade ago. games like; Lumines, syphon filter, castlevania, daxter, wipeout, mercury. let's not forget GTA. there is some crap on PSP, but there's always rubbish games on a system. sadly, the price and reputation of being crap by most game reviewers stops most people from buying it and actually experiancing the greatness of PSP.

the reason PSP is losing the handheld race is because the DS has apparently got the best way to control a game. "TOUCH SCREEN!!" same with wii. revolutionary control is what's selling both consoles. not the games.

eagle270878:
the reason PSP is losing the handheld race is because the DS has apparently got the best way to control a game. "TOUCH SCREEN!!" same with wii. revolutionary control is what's selling both consoles. not the games.

No, the reason PSP is losing is that the DS games are more addictive, AND there are more out there. Touch screen is a feature some people like, I play everything with the DPad because I'm old school. I grew up on the NES controller and favor DPads over analog sticks or other inputs (except in Mario64 / 64DS, I wish I had an analog stick for 64DS). Touch screen or no, dual screens or no, the reason DS is winning the handheld war is that the games are FUN.

Conflicted between the two of them about 2 years ago, I chose DS simply because it's come out with more games that piqued my interest:
Both the Advance Wars DS Games
Both the Castlevania DS Games (3rd one on the way apparently)
Final Fantasy Revenant Wings
Zelda Phantom Hourglass
Contra 4

eagle270somenumbers hit it on the head; I enjoy attempts at innovative gameplay even if a few of of them fall flat. Plus it has a huge library of GBA games to draw on due to backwards compatibility. Like it's predecessor, the DS has become a mecca of sorts for many games best left in 2D (see: Contra).

Plus who doesn't think this is funny?

I think the DS wins hands down but I'm biased because i think sony is satanic

I met one person who doesn't think that.

In response to the people that say all non-franchise games on the DS are mediocre and that there are only traditional Nintendo games on the DS:

Elite Beat Agents
Puzzle Quest
Phoenix Wright 1-3
Meteos
Picross
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Sonic Rush
Trauma Centre

However, whilst there are a few games on the Psp I really want to play (Patapon, Final Fantasy Tactics, God Of War) the rest of the catalogue is full of games that make me go meh. So, DS wins imo.

PSP purely for patapon that game is addictive! Also my sister has a DS and shes a loser. Well more of a loser than me.

Hmm... No option for both.

Now to finish the "Who has the better games" argument.

Each handheld has a bunch of games, yes. And whether or not you think the games are great are up to you. DS has many games, like the Mario and Zelda ones, and I like them. But the PSP also has many games, like the Final Fantasy ones, and I like them as well.

What I am trying to say is that a games greatness is in the eye's of the beholder.

So, I would say that both the DS and PSP are great, the DS for its touch screen and mic, and the PSP for its customability, (If thats a word), and homebrew.

Sorry, but Nintendo has owned the handheld race for a long time. They'll continue to do so until two things happen: someone else makes a better handheld device & at the same time Nintendo has to make a really crappy handheld.
This isn't really a discussion though. People will vote & support whichever handheld they have. According to the numbers I've seen, that will be the DS hands down.
The only games for the DS that I've actually enjoyed have been the games that truly require the use of the touch screen to make them work, EBA, BrainAge, Meteos, Hotel Dusk, Picross, NYTimes Crosswords, and to a lesser extent the Ace Attorneys & Prof. Layton. Almost every other game that I can think of (don't be too mad, I couldn't think of that many) didn't need to use the touch screen and could have appeared on the PSP.
The rest unforntunately seemed contrived and shoehorned (with the exception of Puzzle Quest, and probably Metroid) into using the system.
Are there any other games I missed that needed to use the touch screen, and therefore could never appear on the PSP?

<3 my DS, but as of late I've been having trouble finding a good selection of games to go with it. My tastes have more gravitated towards the immense GBA library.

I voted for the DS because of the variety of games it has that appeal to EVERYONE and not just kids. Go out and play Resident Evil on the DS and tell me that that's for five-year-olds. My aunt has one, and so does my gran, and she's 70.

PSP for me. I prefer analog control to the d-pad control on the DS. I tried playing DS and it just annoyed me. That and most Nintendo games don't interest me in the slightest.

I have a DS, but i havn't played it in months ._. Maybe i'm not a handheld person, but i always play Elite Beat Agents when i get the chance.

Though i've only played with a PSP about 4 times, and with only that analysis i'm not going to say which one, but so far from my baiased mind, i'd say the DS.

In my opinion, the PSP is better at a technical standpoint, but it's a bitch to carry around. So in my opinion, the PSP is the better "console", but the DS is the better handheld.

DS. It's been on the market since aught-4 or aught-5 and it has almost no chance of becoming obsolete as of yet. The PSP has only recently released smaller, lighter systems, so it will probably be replaced in another 3 to 4 years.

agent_capone:

BaronAsh:
But I have played a PSP it's games and the single control stick and lack of any GREAT games(mainly because of the single control stick)Leave it in my mind the lesser of the two.

As for the DS it Has Contra, MarioKart and Mario64 Nuff said.

WHAAAAT??? No great games? Have you ever actually LOOKED at the PSP games on offer?

Cue rant.

**At this point, a rant took place**

Speaking for myself, I'm sure that there are good, if not great games on the PSP. Problem is that as good as they may be, none of them struck me with the "I must have a PSP to play that!" feel. But I'm certainly not the gamer that the PSP caters to; I don't like the RPGs that come out for it, and the system has really only shined through with its RPG titles. I have no desire to play a Final Fantasy game. I thought that God of War (on PS2) was no more than above average. I almost got excited for the re-release of Symphony of the Night, but then I just played it on my PS2, and it's also readily available on X-Box Live.

Puzzle Quest was a game I was dying to play, but it came out on the DS as well. Professor Layton is exclusive to the DS. Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin were exclusive to the DS. New Super Mario Brothers was another huge draw for me. I have a GBA Micro that I use for all my GBA games, and I prefer that, but for somebody who doesn't, I would also suggest they might want a DS because it can support the entire last generation of handheld games as well. There were some great games for that, as well, including the re-releases of the Super Mario Brothers games, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time was great, Fire Pro Wrestling, for those who want a good wrestling title, even a King of Fighters game, for brief amusement.

Crisis Core will be a good title for the PSP, and I have personally witnessed people buying the system entirely for that game, but it's not a title that appeals to me. But I *really* want to play Hotel Dusk and the Phoenix Wright games.

It comes down mostly to personal preference, and the DS caters far more to my tastes than I believe the PSP ever will.

Also...

Seriously, try give us examples of new or original games on the DS...and then compare them to the PSP's collection. Not to mention that the DS was designed for the ultra casual market (especially children) while the PSP caters for more hardcore gamers, giving them not only new games but sequels/prequels of previous games as opposed to straight remakes (Look at Silent Hill, Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, God of War etc.). Sure, that doesn't apply for all PSP games (Prince of Persia is basicaly a direct remake, and Tactics is also, albeit superbly remade) but when you compare the library of new and original PSP games to DS games, there can be no competition. Jesus, who the Christ wants to play "Cooking Mama" or ANOTHER Pokemon game in this day and age? Come on Nintendo, you were popular back in the 90's but I think it's time you moved the hell on from your old franchises

Hate to break it to you, but Cooking Mama has already outsold any single PSP title you can possibly think of. Even any of the Brain Age games (including Big Brain Academy) have outsold anything on the PSP, at least in terms of what people still buy to this day. There are FAR more remakes on the PSP than there are on the DS. PSP remade Ghosts and Goblins. They released the EA Replay, which was a collection of older games ported over, and similar such collections like Atari and Capcom are also on the PSP. Castlevania SOTN and Rondo of Blood were ports. Final Fantasy I, II and Tactics. Disgaea changed the name slightly, but was a remake of the original. Lumines was released on at least the PS2 before the PSP.

Those are just off the top of my head. For the DS, I can name Final Fantasy 3, Super Mario 64, Mario Kart, and a couple of others that are slipping my memory, but there are other remakes on the PSP that slip my memory, too.

Now, the thing is, when you look at the games that were re-released for each system, why is it even such a bad thing that they were remakes? Look at those games; that right there, for either system, is a pretty strong list of titles. And new or original games on the DS? Like that's a hard thing? Phoenix Wright has about 4 games at the moment. Hotel Dusk. New Super Mario. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings and Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates. The Castlevania games were originals on the DS. Elite Beat Agents; Meteos; Professor Layton; Zelda: Phantom Hourglass; Advance Wars (two of them); Dementium; Cooking Mama (2 of them); Brain Age, etc. Maybe they're not your kind of games, and that's valid. I've even left out a lot on the list that cater specifically to children of the Disney Channel crowd, because I'd rather deny they exist. But the games I've named off are games that are original, exclusive, and in most cases, games I would have more fun playing than any two PSP titles that do not include Patapon.

Simply put, when I bought my DS, I knew it would be a safe bet. By buying a DS, I open myself up to a library of quite a few games I have an active interest in playing. The PSP has good games on it, but nothing that calls out to me that I must buy it. If I did buy the PSP, or better yet, if somebody gave it to me, there are only a few games that I would really be able to convince myself of wanting to spend money to play. Ideally, it should be the PSP that has an R4-like ability to pirate their games, because I can only think of two or three I would spend money on. As for the DS, I don't own an R4 out of principle, because I actually WOULD pay money to play these games, and so I do. For me, piracy is to allow me to demo/sample games that I either don't know if I want to buy, or know that I definitely don't. I pay for all my games on the DS, even though a means of pirating them is readily available to me.

In the end, any question about what's the better system all comes down to personal opinion and taste. Even the Wii/PS3/360 race. It won't matter that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. It comes down to what kind of games appeal to you, that are exclusive to each system. Dead Rising, Crackdown, Gears of War; Condemned: Criminal Origins, and several other games appeal to me more than anything currently offered on the PS3. I haven't played a Metal Gear Solid game, so I'm not yearning for the new one. Even if I were inclined to play more RPGs, the 360 is in the lead with that race already with Lost Odyssey, until FFXIII finally comes out. And that might not even all really matter, because the Wii will be getting Okami (though I already own it for PS2) and the next Fatal Frame, and the system is already home to Smash Brothers Brawl and Zack and Wiki. PS3 is the more powerful system out of the three, but for gaming, I'd be far more inclined to go with the Wii or 360, and I'd really only get a PS3 at this point if I want to watch Blu-Ray movies.

I'm not much of a fanboy, either, because I own a PS2, I played on my buddy's X-Box during the last generation and had a great time with it, and I only just now got a Gamecube because my buddy gave it to me now that his Wii made it obsolete. And I can't really think of many games I actually want it for. I love my PS2. I really enjoyed the X-Box. I bought the PS2 because it had more games that I wanted to play, and the games I wanted to play on the X-Box, I already played, so buying one for myself was redundant. I'm not anti-Sony; some of my favourite games of the last generation were on the PS2, if not made by Sony, first-party (like Shadow of the Colossus).

So, the long and the short of it is that it all comes down to preference, but even still, your claims that the PSP doesn't have as many remakes as the DS (as if that really should mean anything to begin with) is just plain misinformed. And to say that the PSP is so advanced because of its analog nub? DS features an entire touch screen where you can interact with the very environment you're playing on! Seeing the potential of the PSP? Everybody can already see it; the problem is that very little is being done to capitalize on it. Just like the PS3 - how amazing can dual processing graphics be, when 90% of the games on the system are only 720p anyways? And saying that in a year, the DS will be wiped out because it's only for casual gamers? Two points on that: 1) the FACT that it appeals to a casual gaming audience means that it will last longer than a system that chooses to only appeal to the MINORITY of consumers that the hardcore crowds make up. 2) most of my customers are hardcore gamers, because my store is located at a very convenient location from an EA studio, and a school that teaches game design. Out of these, there are those who own a DS, and there are those who own a PSP AND a DS. DS is the DEFAULT. PSP is the optional; the one for people who like that sort of thing. Gaming has opened up to the vast mainstream, and you're going to sit there and tell me that the system that caters to EVERYBODY will be gone and forgotten within a year, in favour of the system that targets a NICHE?

Okay, I've tried to stop this rant several paragraphs ago, but the more I think about things, the more I realize how misinformed the post was. I could go on - trust me - but I'm just going to call it a night.

P.S. - I totally forgot to mention Trauma Centre with the quality exclusive DS titles.