We all know Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming out soon on PS3 on june 12th.
Unfortuantely i do not own a ps3.
I keep hearing rumours flying all over the place that there will be a 360 release
does anyone know anymore on this?
I know Kojima has said it was going to be a ps3 release
but does anyone know if its going to be bought out on 360.
Because i dont really want to go out and buy a PS3 if its coming out on the 360.

Thanks

Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

There were rumours for a while back yeah. But I've heard nothing concrete and have to agree with Indigo that it may not be possible unless they do something about compressing it and they release a motion sensitive controller for the 360 or change those bits.

It was rumoured to happen because the PS3 wasn't selling as planned and so Konami wouldn't meet their expected sales I think.

MGS4 was the only reason I wanted a PS3 as FF games have disappointed me of late and there wasn't anything else going for it like their used to be in the old days. But its too much money to pay for one game and I'm hoping they do port it over with a later release but I'm not holding my breath.

Honestly, no idea. But based on previous Metal Gears, it probably will arrive on 360.

But in much the same way Halo games arrive on PC, so expect it at least a couple of years after its PS3 release. It might also depend on whether or not the 360 gets a motion sensitive controller.

Ot they might do what they did with 2, release two as a Playstation exclusive. Then some time later release Substance, essentialy 2+, on Playstation, Xbox and PC.

but i mean sure blu ray holds more but
konami could just use multiple disks like they did with mgs1 couldnt they?
i mean if i have to buy a ps3 for this one game i will
shame they could get alot of business and sales with the xbox i think
theres more of a market
where as not many poeple own the ps3

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Apone:
There were rumours for a while back yeah. But I've heard nothing concrete and have to agree with Indigo that it may not be possible unless they do something about compressing it and they release a motion sensitive controller for the 360 or change those bits.

It was rumoured to happen because the PS3 wasn't selling as planned and so Konami wouldn't meet their expected sales I think.

MGS4 was the only reason I wanted a PS3 as FF games have disappointed me of late and there wasn't anything else going for it like their used to be in the old days. But its too much money to pay for one game and I'm hoping they do port it over with a later release but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, cause Sony have nothing else Cough*God Of War III*Cough*Resistance: Fall Of Man*Cough*inFamous*Cough*Amazing Track Record including GTA, Hitman and Guitar hero

fix-the-spade:
Honestly, no idea. But based on previous Metal Gears, it probably will arrive on 360.

Ot they might do what they did with 2, release two as a Playstation exclusive. Then some time later release Substance, essentialy 2+, on Playstation, Xbox and PC.
I seem to think they did that with 3 as well, but couldn't vouch for it.

They did not do that with 3, it remained a Ps2 exclusive, and all the better for it.

And what previous trends are these? If a thing happens once, and then is not repeated, it is a mistake, not a trend.

Indigo_Dingo:

Apone:
There were rumours for a while back yeah. But I've heard nothing concrete and have to agree with Indigo that it may not be possible unless they do something about compressing it and they release a motion sensitive controller for the 360 or change those bits.

It was rumoured to happen because the PS3 wasn't selling as planned and so Konami wouldn't meet their expected sales I think.

MGS4 was the only reason I wanted a PS3 as FF games have disappointed me of late and there wasn't anything else going for it like their used to be in the old days. But its too much money to pay for one game and I'm hoping they do port it over with a later release but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, cause Sony have nothing else Cough*God Of War III*Cough*Resistance: Fall Of Man*Cough*inFamous*Cough*Amazing Track Record including GTA, Hitman and Guitar hero

I didn't say they didn't have anything else *cough*avoids pointless console war *cough*
Just they used to have all they games I (<<<<) wanted to play. Now they don't so I'm not getting one. GTA bores me and is on 360, as does God of Button mash which I watch my brother play to look at the rather nice visuals anyway.
Oh yeah Resistance was fun at my mates house. I'll play that with hm when he gets it. Co-op was cool. Played it all in one straight evening on Tesco's knock-off of Red Bull. took 8hrs till 6am then played death match for a bit. Cool guns.

fix-the-spade:
Honestly, no idea. But based on previous Metal Gears, it probably will arrive on 360.

But in much the same way Halo games arrive on PC, so expect it at least a couple of years after its PS3 release. It might also depend on whether or not the 360 gets a motion sensitive controller.

Ot they might do what they did with 2, release two as a Playstation exclusive. Then some time later release Substance, essentialy 2+, on Playstation, Xbox and PC.
I seem to think they did that with 3 as well, but couldn't vouch for it.

Edited: No they only did it for MGS2 Substance.

Apone:

fix-the-spade:
Honestly, no idea. But based on previous Metal Gears, it probably will arrive on 360.

But in much the same way Halo games arrive on PC, so expect it at least a couple of years after its PS3 release. It might also depend on whether or not the 360 gets a motion sensitive controller.

Ot they might do what they did with 2, release two as a Playstation exclusive. Then some time later release Substance, essentialy 2+, on Playstation, Xbox and PC.
I seem to think they did that with 3 as well, but couldn't vouch for it.

No they did it for MGS2 Substance.

Yes, he said that.

from Konami this January,

and I quote:

"For the record, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is a PlayStation 3 exclusive and there are no plans to develop an Xbox 360 version of the game."

For the love of all that is holy, let this horse RIP.. it was dead 2 years ago. You want to see snake through his final mission? You got to get a ps3.. simple as that.

Let go, it's over.

Dude the guy didn't know. And neither did we. No need to be an arse.

Indigo_Dingo:
They did not do that with 3, it remained a Ps2 exclusive, and all the better for it.

And what previous trends are these? If a thing happens once, and then is not repeated, it is a mistake, not a trend.

MGS 1 ended up on the PC and Gamecube (all be it in a heavily altered form). Whilst 2 ended up on the xbox and the PC.

But then 3 didn't as you pointed out.
So maybe nobody on the pc/xbox actually went out and bought them.
Or maybe Sony dangled an enormous check under Konami's nose.

I just like the shiny Science fiction of the games. (Those legged warmachines look darn cool) Never cared for the drama or politics. Or guns. or Snake. Or Eva even.

Hasn't Hideo complained that the 50gig on blu ray discs isn't enough? Because they were going to have the original Japanese audio on the European release as well but had to cut it out because there wasn't enough space. I assume this is so we can have about 10 hours of cutscences. Per bossfight. :P

Please correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the 360 use normal DVDs? If so, that would make a 360 release unlikely I think.

It is coming out for the 360. It has not been said when but they did say that they would say at E3 or at the Tokyo Game Show. Not that I even like or want MGS 4.

If the in-game videos floating around on the net are anything to go by, from a hardware perspective, the 360 is simply not going to be able to handle it, it is as simple as that, and we all know how Hideo is about his art, he is not going to degrade the graphics or anything else just to put it on the 360.

I think it will be ported eventually.

Let's face, PS3 owners make up a minority of the market.
MGS4 on the other hand is more of a "hardcorez game" and eventually only a minority of PS3 owners will buy it(the rest is using it as a Blu-Ray player hahahahaha!...sorry an inner fanboy outbreak).

minority x minority = Lack of profits
Lack of Profits = MGS4 will get ported.

I bet we'll see a Wii version :)

PS:I am so going to get flamed for writing this.

JakubK666:
I think it will be ported eventually.

Let's face, PS3 owners make up a minority of the market.
MGS4 on the other hand is more of a "hardcorez game" and eventually only a minority of PS3 owners will buy it(the rest is using it as a Blu-Ray player hahahahaha!...sorry an inner fanboy outbreak).

minority x minority = Lack of profits
Lack of Profits = MGS4 will get ported.

I bet we'll see a Wii version :)

PS:I am so going to get flamed for writing this.

Someone has never looked inside a computer. I don't want to be offensive, so...why don't we handle this skit-style.
Jakub: Well, everyone, here at the annual Making Money with Games meeting, I've come to a conclusion. See this chart? A great many people own 360's. If we were to port this game...Sturdy Steel Gearbox 3, to the 360, I believe many people will buy it! It would certainly make up for the fact that the money we made from the PS3 version couldn't even fill 5 wheelbarrows.
Katana: Yes, sir...but that's just not plausible. MGS4 uses a lot of new technology, much of it using the PS3's architecture! Multi-threaded processing, controller tilt functions, nonlinear GPU structuring...
Jakub: But you can port it, right? You're good at those computer thingies!
Katana: Sir, I'm sorry, but it's not possible with the way it was coded.
Jakub: But the monies!

JakubK666:

I bet we'll see a Wii version :)

PS:I am so going to get flamed for writing this.

Well, not necisarily flamed, but please tell me you're joking about the Wii version?

If Kojima said that Blu-Ray was too small to fit everything he wanted for MGS4, then i highly HIGHLY doubt that MGS4 will be on the Xbox360. Even if it was ported in 2,3 years, it'll be like "Lost Planet" on the PS3, hundreds-of-thousands of people will be able to enjoy a game millions have already!

Here's what i really think of this topic. Bullshit. Just complete idiocracy. Xbox360 (hardware wise) cannot run the game with all of the stuff in it already, especialy if it maxed out the Blu-Ray space capabilities. Even if it was a port, they would have to severely cut GB's of storage just to make it have atleast some goodies, and maybe run smoothly enough for play.

So let this be known once and for all: METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS WILL NOT BE COMEING TO THE XBOX360!!! Sorry, it's just that my Xbox friends yell at me how MGS will be on the Xbox, even though they have no clue what they are talking about.

What I had heard was the 360 was going to get eather DMC4 or MGS4, and went with DMC4. But does anybody think sony will throw away the only thing 360 games want? Even time will not faze them, try and buy any Zelda game on anything but Nintendo (Not counting PC emulation's).

This is it. I'm not kidding.

Hideo said this. "I find the 360 very interesting."

SERIOUSLY, THAT WAS ALL HE FUCKING SAID! 360 fuck cunts took it too far again. I own a 360, I know what they are like. Fiddly little bastards.

I doubt there will ever be a port. But who really cares (that matters). If you want MGS4 just get a PS3.

There was a rumour that MGS4 was running on Xbox 360 architecture in its early stages of development. It was then brought over to the PS3 and thus ended the 360/MGS4 connection.

A massive sackful of dollars says MGS4 stays a PS3 exclusive.

caseyday09:
It is coming out for the 360. It has not been said when but they did say that they would say at E3 or at the Tokyo Game Show.

Good luck with that optimism! I'm sure it'll come in handy some day. You surely realise that Blu-ray discs hold over five times as much data than DVDs and that other little fact that content had to be cut from the game to make it fit on a blu-ray disc.....

Indigo_Dingo:
Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

didn't Hideo himself stated that the 50gig disk isn't big enough? Or is that old news?

wow....what's with the sudden explosion of fanboy-ism on the escapist. i thought this was a more mature forum.

seriously though, they're just computers. They don't require your fanatical devotion....

anyways, back on topic. Nah, i somehow doubt the 360 will get MGS4. oh well, not that big a deal.

It won't.
Hideo said he'd stop the series if it was ^^;

...
Bugger.

if MGS4 came out for any other console then there would hardly be a reason to buy a PS3, its not like its completely rubbish or anything, it just doesn't have many quality titles.

So, the end result is that the game was designed tailor made for the Ps3. I'm pretty sure all parties involved are fine with this. They expect that, if people really wanna play this game, which is likely to easily be the best console specific game of the year, possibly even the best game, they can buy a Ps3. If not, they can go fuck themselves.

If anything the factor holding back a 360 port is a certain degree of Hideo Kojima's "loyalty" to Sony, which only... kinda made the Metal Gear Solid games popular. Even though the latest console MGS was made a generation back, I can see a shitstorm of a fanboy riot if there were simultaneous or even later port of MGS4 to a MICROSOFT game console, eigo wa hanasimasu ka? Amerika jin?

Just in case nobody brought it up yet, there have already been at least two games that are released on multiple discs for the 360. Capacity is not the issue at all.

Damn if the Blue ray disks are getting filled up then that game is going to take forever to load. You do know Blue ray is slow as shit right?

Well anyway, I couldn't care about MGS4, sure it looks good but it hardly merits the buying of a console. And as I have not played number one or three I don't care what happens.

Indigo_Dingo:
Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

Now I don't expect MGS4 to come to 360 and don't really care but I'm calling bullshit on 49.7 gigs. How big is Crysis? 12 GB. You cannot tell me that MGS4 is really, truly using that disc space and couldn't cut out a whole bunch of it. This sounds like one of those bullshit quotes Sony isn't against making for the sake of point scoring. When people ask why MGS4 won't be ported to 360? Oh, it's too massive. That's right this game is too big for that pathetic machine.

Saskwach:

Indigo_Dingo:
Dude, there is no way. Its just not possible. Here I'm talking about the information on the disc that is the game itself. An HD DVD disc can hold 30 gigs tops, right? Hideo maxed out the game at 49.7 gigs. Plus, Motion sensor plays a large role, or so the rumour bin would have us believe.

We may see Metal Gear Solid 5 on the 360, but thats only if Hideo wants to. And i'm just guessing, but I think he has a loyalty to Sony.

Now I don't expect MGS4 to come to 360 and don't really care but I'm calling bullshit on 49.7 gigs. How big is Crysis? 12 GB. You cannot tell me that MGS4 is really, truly using that disc space and couldn't cut out a whole bunch of it. This sounds like one of those bullshit quotes Sony isn't against making for the sake of point scoring. When people ask why MGS4 won't be ported to 360? Oh, it's too massive. That's right this game is too big for that pathetic machine.

Hideo himself said it, and i think he said that even the Blu-Ray was too small for his vision, he had to cut out a lot of the stuff he wanted in. I'm inclined to say its true. And you could, hypothetically, cut out some of it, but then what would be the point of porting it? Cut out most of it, and it will be a lacklustre adventure with poor graphics, stupid AI, and way too short.

Fire Daemon:
Damn if the Blue ray disks are getting filled up then that game is going to take forever to load. You do know Blue ray is slow as shit right?

Well anyway, I couldn't care about MGS4, sure it looks good but it hardly merits the buying of a console. And as I have not played number one or three I don't care what happens.

I have never seen my Ps3 loading for more than 5 seconds, on Assasins Creed, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, and The Orange Box.