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What the hell is Ed Boon thinking? Next thing you know they will do Barney VS Kratos....I really hope this is all one big joke, but somehow I doubt it. How Mortal Kombat has fallen...It is a sad day for a once great fighting game.

nightmare_gorilla
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mortal kombat was never good, it was blocky and stiff and boring for anyone who likes to fight without spending 3 hours memorizing exact button combos. and truth be told there isn't a single character in the mortal kombat universe who can step up to most of the dc guys, batman or superman could singlehandedly anihilate every last one of them. not to make this a fanboy thing, it's not that i'm such a dc fan as i have only played one mortal kombat game that i enjoyed even a little and that one wasn't made by the mortal kombat people shoalin monks rocked and i'd love to see more of those made but mortal kombat fails as a fighting game.

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nightmare_gorilla:
mortal kombat was never good, it was blocky and stiff and boring for anyone who likes to fight without spending 3 hours memorizing exact button combos. and truth be told there isn't a single character in the mortal kombat universe who can step up to most of the dc guys, batman or superman could singlehandedly anihilate every last one of them. not to make this a fanboy thing, it's not that i'm such a dc fan as i have only played one mortal kombat game that i enjoyed even a little and that one wasn't made by the mortal kombat people shoalin monks rocked and i'd love to see more of those made but mortal kombat fails as a fighting game.

Blocky and stiff, hmm I don't quite remember it being blocky and stiff prior to the 3D iterations...DC comics are not even good frankly the only character I really like is Batman but that is another topic.

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nightmare_gorilla:
mortal kombat was never good, it was blocky and stiff and boring for anyone who likes to fight without spending 3 hours memorizing exact button combos.

Or in fact most 2d fighting games for that matter.

What'll they do next, pit Freddy and Amy against each other? Oh wait...

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The Sorrow
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Is that from Mugen?

Melty Blood
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Yuppers

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What the hell is Ed Boon thinking? Next thing you know they will do Barney VS Kratos....I really hope this is all one big joke, but somehow I doubt it. How Mortal Kombat has fallen...It is a sad day for a once great fighting game.

I don't know what the hell you're talking about, I for one can't wait to beat the crap out of Superman with Raiden.

Superman: I will use the powers of good to defeat you!

Raiden: Bitch, please. I've already died about eight times, have beaten the tar out of the best fighters from who knows how many realms, not to mention I'm a friggin GOD. What have you done? Let's see... Ah yes. You have somehow beaten your greatest foe about 1000 times, (which considering he's only a fairly smart bald guy, isn't very impressive) without ever killing or permanently stopping him from being a pain in the ass. You've never had a sidekick anybody gave a damn about, hell even Batman had that boy-toy Robin, and you somehow fail to nab the only chick who's ever had the hots for you on a continuous basis. Oh, and you're allergic to green rock. I'm real impressed.

Superman: ...You have a funny hat.

Raiden: I DON'T THINK SO!* "Creates storm clouds to block the sun, causing the big S to weaken, then zaps his ass with a lightning bolt"

Anyways, if the fight mechanics are good, and they include fatalities, what is there to complain about? Merging two popular franchises to create a game fans of both have been dreaming about for ages (got to youtube if you don't believe me)? Ya, that REALLY sucks balls right there.

*Bad movie reference.

Brazilian Maniac
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Anyways, if the fight mechanics are good, and they include fatalities

They've already announced the game won't have an M rating, so if it even has something that passes for fatalities, it's gonna be toned waaaay down.

jim_doki
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it might not be that bad... i mean if they remove it from canon and put in some of the more interesting characters.... im not convincing anyone...

you know, on second thought, if it was Marvel vs MK it might make more sense. you could have roughly equal teams (steven strange vs shang tsung, Iceman vs Sub Zero, Iron Man vs Cyrax). no one in MK is gonna be able to take on supes besides raiden, and even then i dont know

VRaptorX
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well....it would be odd having a fatality on a DC character.

Personally....just get rid of the useless characters/clones and stick with the unique ones. Just 30 fighters max for a mortal Kombat game. bring back real fatalities and make the game smoother.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s
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DC comics are not even good frankly the only character I really like is Batman but that is another topic.

You do know that DC has published some of the most important and influential comics of all time, right? Watchmen? V For Vendetta? The Dark Knight Returns? Saying DC comics are crap is like saying Black Sabbath is a rubbish metal band. Sure, not everything they do is brilliant, but when on form they're fucking untouchable.

Anyway, never really been a MK player. Always seemed a little stiff and clunky compared to Soul Calibur.

rusty_cage
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I saw this last night and I swear it's the reason it's fucking snowing at my house right now.

It needs to get canceled so the world is set right again.

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When I first read about this last night I was hoping it was a dream. A really fucked up, "I probably have a brain tumor the size of Connecticut" dream. Seeing another article on a game called "Afro Samurai" did nothing to disprove my dream theory, but here I am the next morning, 98% certain that I'm awake, and Mortal Kombat Vs. DC still exists.

God help us all.

This really seems like a desperation move. You don't do crossovers like this unless your sales are slumping and you're hoping to bring in people from the other fanbase as well as people who are just morbidly fascinated by the inevitable train wreck.

Taking away the M rating and fatalities? That really won't help Mortal Kombat, not in the slightest. I don't think there's a MK fan out there who won't admit that the series wouldn't have gotten past the first game if it hadn't been for the gore and fatalities. Take those away and every installment of the series becomes a very generic fighting game that pales in comparison to games like Tekken and Street Fighter. Let's not forget, MK was on it's third or fourth installment before combos were introduced.

I probably won't be buying this game or even renting it. The whole crossover thing sound so absurd that it might as well be bad fanfiction. They should have let Mortal Kombat die with Armageddon, and I have a feeling Ed Boon is in for a serious shock when he realizes why his fanbase has really stuck around this long.

Divinegon
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I'll still buy this game if I get Dan Forden saying "Toasty" when I use a fatality on Aquaman with Scorpion. Oh wait, not fatalities? That is just...wrong. Feels like forcing Sonic to use a a car in a racing game.

Still, it's Marvel VS Capcom of 2008. It might work out, who knows? Specially if they do get the comic version of V. I at least want to see some game footage before I judge it based on some hint like news.

Hawkzor
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I personally don't look forward to ripping out Batman's heart, I think this whole idea is stupid. If they do stick with no fatalities, then whats the point of a Mortal Kombat game? and I'll still pass.

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

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DC comics are not even good frankly the only character I really like is Batman but that is another topic.

You do know that DC has published some of the most important and influential comics of all time, right? Watchmen? V For Vendetta? The Dark Knight Returns? Saying DC comics are crap is like saying Black Sabbath is a rubbish metal band. Sure, not everything they do is brilliant, but when on form they're fucking untouchable.

Anyway, never really been a MK player. Always seemed a little stiff and clunky compared to Soul Calibur.

They published Watchmen, big deal? Does that mean that many of DC comics' characters are not boring and uninspired? Not really.

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

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DC comics are not even good frankly the only character I really like is Batman but that is another topic.

You do know that DC has published some of the most important and influential comics of all time, right? Watchmen? V For Vendetta? The Dark Knight Returns? Saying DC comics are crap is like saying Black Sabbath is a rubbish metal band. Sure, not everything they do is brilliant, but when on form they're fucking untouchable.

Anyway, never really been a MK player. Always seemed a little stiff and clunky compared to Soul Calibur.

They published Watchmen, big deal? Does that mean that many of DC comics' characters are not boring and uninspired? Not really.

V for Vendetta. Nothing more needs to be said.

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Brazilian Maniac:
They've already announced the game won't have an M rating, so if it even has something that passes for fatalities, it's gonna be toned waaaay down.

...I take back what I said. This game can be buried next to E.T.

Want to know why I like MK? Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and Raiden.

Want to know why I like them? Shooting a spear through somebodys heart, freezing somebody then knocking them over to shatter, and calling down a lightning bolt to turn a guy into a carbonized skeleton, respectfully. Take that away, and what else is there?

Slim Reaper10
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i sence an epic fail

conqueror Kenny
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well i dont know about this. In my opinion marval vs. Capcom was surprisingly good and being a mortal kombat fan from day one having every single one so far i may well have to break tradition for this one. I have never liked dc comics.. not enough blood. I was gravly dissapointed with sholin monks and deadly alliance with the glaring absance of Liu Kang showing that MK shouldnd break tradition.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s
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j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

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DC comics are not even good frankly the only character I really like is Batman but that is another topic.

You do know that DC has published some of the most important and influential comics of all time, right? Watchmen? V For Vendetta? The Dark Knight Returns? Saying DC comics are crap is like saying Black Sabbath is a rubbish metal band. Sure, not everything they do is brilliant, but when on form they're fucking untouchable.

Anyway, never really been a MK player. Always seemed a little stiff and clunky compared to Soul Calibur.

They published Watchmen, big deal? Does that mean that many of DC comics' characters are not boring and uninspired? Not really.

Yeah, but that's just the nature of the beast. They publish god knows how many hundreds of comics, and they can't all be of Moore/Miller quality. Do you think Marvel is any better? They've got more tripe than Hannibal Lector at an offal convention. Same with Dark Horse, and all the other comic publishers.

The fact that DC has produced a lot of titles ranging from average to poor doesn't negate the fact that they've also got a catalogue of titles that the rest of the comic world envies. It's like the Playstation 2. Within its game library, it has literally hundreds and hundreds of games that are average, bad or vomit-enducingly awful. The vast majority of PS2 games are forgettable dross. Is that how we remember or judge the PS2? Of course not! We remember it for the amazing games that were released for it. Devil May Cry and all that jazz. The same here applies to DC Comics.

Best thing I can advise is to go read Batman: Year One. If you still dislike DC after that, you're a lost cause.

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Crap_haT:

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

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DC comics are not even good frankly the only character I really like is Batman but that is another topic.

You do know that DC has published some of the most important and influential comics of all time, right? Watchmen? V For Vendetta? The Dark Knight Returns? Saying DC comics are crap is like saying Black Sabbath is a rubbish metal band. Sure, not everything they do is brilliant, but when on form they're fucking untouchable.

Anyway, never really been a MK player. Always seemed a little stiff and clunky compared to Soul Calibur.

They published Watchmen, big deal? Does that mean that many of DC comics' characters are not boring and uninspired? Not really.

V for Vendetta. Nothing more needs to be said.

lets not forget Sandman. but regardless of the epicness of the DC back catalogue, the REAL problem is going to be, like i said earlier, balance issues. how in the hell is Sonya Blade supposed to stand up to supes, or wonderwoman, or Dream? and how many DC characters would be willing to kill to win? that gets rid of pretty much the entire justice league....

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Does anyone here think of DC comics when they think of V for Vendetta or Watchmen? The first thing anyone thinks of is a character related to the Justice League. Would you think of Dreadstar when you think of Marvel Comics? Put another way books like Watchmen or V for Vendetta are not the life blood of companies like Marvel regardless of how good other works they publish are. Personally Batman is my favorite character out of DC (As I said before.) I thought Batman begins was fucking pure genius. It managed to shake off the poison of Tim Burton and start the movie series off fresh. I even thought that the game was pretty neat too.

qbert4ever
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jim_doki:
regardless of the epicness of the DC back catalogue, the REAL problem is going to be, like i said earlier, balance issues.

Has that ever stopped Mortal Kombat before? Think about Deception. In the opening movie, Quan Chi, Shang Tsung AND Raiden working together could not even slow down Onaga. Yet it will show somebody like Kobra kicking his ass as long as you win the fight with him. It doesn't have to make sense to be fun.

PurpleRain
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I have such a priapism for: Rain, Scorpion and Sub Zero Vs Aquaman!
Someone needs to put him in his place.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s
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shadow skill:
Does anyone here think of DC comics when they think of V for Vendetta or Watchmen? The first thing anyone thinks of is a character related to the Justice League. Would you think of Dreadstar when you think of Marvel Comics? Put another way books like Watchmen or V for Vendetta are not the life blood of companies like Marvel regardless of how good other works they publish are. Personally Batman is my favorite character out of DC (As I said before.) I thought Batman begins was fucking pure genius. It managed to shake off the poison of Tim Burton and start the movie series off fresh. I even thought that the game was pretty neat too.

Well, good to see we agree on that point. Personally, I don't see why people get so nostalgic about the Burton films. They're as camp as Christmas, full of stuffy dialogue, and Nicholson's Joker is waaaay overrated.

Anyways, why do you think people link DC with the characters from the Justice League? It's because they've become so iconic. Superman practically invented the super-hero comic, Batman is just plain amazing, Wonderwoman was the first superheroine in a medium dominated by men, etc etc. The Justice League helped show the world what comic books were capable of as an art form.

Add to that the fact that some of DC's very best works revolve around the JL characters. Superman had 'Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow?'and 'The Death Of Superman', Batman had 'Batman: Year One', 'Arkham Asylum' and, of course, 'The Dark Knight Returns', etc etc. So really, I can't see where you're coming from when you describe DC's links with The Justice League as a bad thing.

neonorangcrayola
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I was so excited to hear this game was coming out UNTIL I heard it will have around 10 characters.... it would have been so much better if they had included more diverse characters than the heroes like joker and such.

Wazzelbe
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I think we should definitely NOT question the un-realism of letting two completely unrealistic universes collide. Purple Rain's got the right idea.
The only problem I see with the game is that there will be NO "Finishing Moves" in the traditional MK sense. I didn't like MK much, but everyone knows "FINISH HIM!".
... I wanted so bad to see DC guys get FINISH'd, or DC guys FINISHing MK guys...
... I'll have to settle for watching Johnny Cage do the splits and punch Bat Man in the nuts.

VRaptorX
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OK...I gotta agree with Watchmen, Batman and V for Vendetta (two of which noone would know about if it wasn't for the movies [yes there us a watchmen movie being made]).....but really....what else do they have that is memorable? Superman....wonderwoman, flash? That's basically it. Noone cares about Aquaman or submariner (whichever one is DC. I always forget. they both suck.)

Marvel on the other hand has Spidy, Xmen (and you could argue half that cast is as recognizable as a hero with their own comic anyway), Hulk, Fantastic 4, Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider (people do know it even if it isn't the greatest), Captain America, Ironman, Daredevil, etc.

And then darkhorse has Mask, Hellboy, Spawn (I believe those was Darkhorse...they might be Marvel.)

That and Marvel definatly has the better villians. Only villians that rival are the Batman ones.

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Well, fighting games have never really interested me, so I think I'll be content on the side-lines, watching this epic train-wreck. And no jinxes will stop me, right? Right?

- A procrastinator

Edit: Woot! Half-devil...

 
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