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1)   7 May 2008 19:22
The SIBERIAN SNAKE
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MY PERSONAL Choice for the game is the ak47 for its massive power good clip and really good accuracy {i get very tired of hearing about people who say the AK is inaccurate i could snipe with that gun just use a red dot} or a silencer its the coolest gun}

2)   7 May 2008 19:30
Projekt Spartan
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I like the G36C actually... probably should have made this a poll though...

3)   7 May 2008 19:31
conqueror Kenny
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I chose none that includes any game mode of the game.

4)   7 May 2008 19:34
Froce
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In CoD 4, the AK may be accurate, but in real life, you gotta be some kind of other worldly being to get it to be accurate. I, personally, like the M16 with a skorpion for close quarters(gotta love overkill). My favorite gun, though, is the M14.

5)   7 May 2008 20:38
Scolar Visari
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I rage at the G36C having a 40mm on it. If IW had actualy looked at a real one they would notice the bottom rails are too short to fit a launcher. My favorite gun would have to be a M14 with no added optics or anything else.

6)   7 May 2008 20:47
Singing Gremlin
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HAH! I love games where you can silence an AK. S'rubbish, the firing chamber clangs so much it wouldn't do you any good. Personally I'd vote the M16.

I watched a video in which some yank soldiers were testing out some bullet-proof material by getting an Afghan guard to shoot at it while the yank held it over his head. Unfortunately the Afghans use AKs, and the poor sod got shot in the leg.

7)   7 May 2008 20:48
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It would have to be the good 'ol M16 for me. I know people who continually bitch about how it is burst-fire. Although that may be a downside,two bursts waist high or above drop a foe instantly.

8)   7 May 2008 21:02
shadow1138
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If i have to say for cod 4 -AK-47 love to shoot trough walls . For real life AK-47 still-btw [insert insult here] you if you think it's bad in the real world.Why I say this?
Well here it is -twice the pentration of it's western counterparts with normal bullets. With armor-piercing-which are forbidden from use in armed conflicts by internationall agreement- it will shoot trough railtracks. Try that with your m-16 please.If maintained properly it's range is about 700 meters. Thats 700 meters and it will still penetrate armor. It does get terribly inacurate (starts to "spit" bullets) if you overheat it(fire rapidly two or three clips). But it is as good as normal if you cool it afterwards. Even if you use piss.Does have some recoil,but you can swim with it and still fire afterwards. The US soldiers had to put condoms on their m-16s in Vietnam -that was just to protect it from dust'cause it tends to jam with dust in. You can run it over with a HUMMER and it will still work.The M-16 can be made inoperable if you squeeze it too hard on the right place. Cheap to make, easy to use.
Do you need more ?

9)   7 May 2008 21:02
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I personally prefer using the M16 overall because it's a one shot kill if you get the full burst into someone, the clip is decent and can be pretty lucky/amazing in close quarters if you tap aim. I use the red dot sight for that gun and I couldn't use the game without it.

However when i'm on S&D I prefer to use the AK-47 with the silencer, Jusggernaut, 2x Claymores and Steady aim. I tell you it's one of the best combinations for S&D and for anyone who says "Juggernaut is for noobs" just doesn't understand where it is acceptable.

10)   7 May 2008 21:10
Scolar Visari
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It's sad how videogames make people think anything starting with AK is shit. In real life I would go with the AEK-971. It's the newest version and it sounds solid from the testing.

11)   7 May 2008 22:05
Singing Gremlin
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shadow1138:
If i have to say for cod 4 -AK-47 love to shoot trough walls . For real life AK-47 still-btw [insert insult here] you if you think it's bad in the real world.Why I say this?
Well here it is -twice the pentration of it's western counterparts with normal bullets. With armor-piercing-which are forbidden from use in armed conflicts by internationall agreement- it will shoot trough railtracks. Try that with your m-16 please.If maintained properly it's range is about 700 meters. Thats 700 meters and it will still penetrate armor. It does get terribly inacurate (starts to "spit" bullets) if you overheat it(fire rapidly two or three clips). But it is as good as normal if you cool it afterwards. Even if you use piss.Does have some recoil,but you can swim with it and still fire afterwards. The US soldiers had to put condoms on their m-16s in Vietnam -that was just to protect it from dust'cause it tends to jam with dust in. You can run it over with a HUMMER and it will still work.The M-16 can be made inoperable if you squeeze it too hard on the right place. Cheap to make, easy to use.
Do you need more ?

Ummm, you might want to find something better to leap to the defence of, ranting and frothing at the mouth, than the Kalashnikov. It isn't that good, and regardless it's a method of killing people. You like the firearm, sure. Why do you care so much if other people don't?

12)   7 May 2008 22:42
Remag
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In CoD 4, I've have tremendous success with the AK47, modified with Red Dot Sight, and with the added perk of Double Tap.

Although I hear from more experienced gamers that the M16 has an advantage over the AK in terms of stats and power (though personally, I've never noticed a significant drop in the AK's killing capabilities for me to not want to use it).

13)   7 May 2008 22:57
War Monger of Yabucua
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M4 all the way wiggas!

14)   7 May 2008 23:00
Darth Mobius
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I always like the higher stopping power of the 7.62 versus the dinky little 5.56 that the M-16 uses... That and has already been stated, they can take a major beating and still work really well. Not a toy like the M-16... And I have seen AK-47s modified as Sniper Rifles, so don't tell me that they aren't accurate...

15)   7 May 2008 23:30
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Darth Mobius:
I always like the higher stopping power of the 7.62 versus the dinky little 5.56 that the M-16 uses... That and has already been stated, they can take a major beating and still work really well. Not a toy like the M-16... And I have seen AK-47s modified as Sniper Rifles, so don't tell me that they aren't accurate...

All the fancy polymers of modern day rifles don't mean shit if it breaks the first time you drop the thing that's why I'll always put my trust in AKs or any well made rifle for that matter.

16)   8 May 2008 01:18
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between the options givin I would saythe AK 47, its the first weapon I got the ACOG scope for, and there's a reason its the most poular weapon in the world. but over all its a toss up between G36c and G3

17)   8 May 2008 01:25
Froce
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It's popular cause of how easy it is to get. I gotta agree, the G36C and the G3 are awesome.

18)   8 May 2008 02:05
Captain_Planet
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AK is the best, because it works basically as a kind of sniper in addition to a competent short range weapon

19)   8 May 2008 02:20
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The pistols I prefer to use or the dragnor(?) sniper rifle, but if had to use an assuslt it'd be the M16a

20)   8 May 2008 02:41
butterkniferampage
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the m4 is great for hardcore with double tap

the ak is great silenced and jammed in domination or deathmatch

the m16 is a good all around gun that is very affective at close and long ranges

personally my favorite is m4 with tube, fast reload, and last stand
tube isn't being a noob, its part of the game folks-
if you got the tube after you get 150 kills, everyone would love it

but ak with dot just rapes with stopping power

21)   8 May 2008 02:42
butterkniferampage
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oh and the G3 is my favorite gun all the way!

22)   8 May 2008 05:34
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Darth Mobius:
I always like the higher stopping power of the 7.62 versus the dinky little 5.56 that the M-16 uses... That and has already been stated, they can take a major beating and still work really well. Not a toy like the M-16... And I have seen AK-47s modified as Sniper Rifles, so don't tell me that they aren't accurate...

Assault rifles are mass produced. They are not inherently accurate enough for a dedicated marksman.

Once manufactured they are placed in a test rig and tested, if the bullets hit in an acceptable grouping they pass if not they fail, some of these guns will shoot better than others.

There are versions of these guns used in squad designated marksman roles they are pulled apart and rebuilt so they are accurate.
So you will see marksman versions of these guns but you would be exceptionally lucky to find one good enough off the rack as it were.

23)   8 May 2008 06:34
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You are of course right, but I stand by my point. My main point was stopping power. Which is why I prefer a .45 over the 9 I shot in the Coast Guard. There was barely any recoil on the 9, but I like LOTS of kinetic energy when I am forced to pull the trigger. Kinetic Energy = Stopping Power. There are cases where 9s have gone straight through the guy without dropping him. A .45 will tear out large pieces of body...

All assualt rifles are inherently accurate to a degree because they have the longer barrel... In modern warfare you won't march onto a field and shoot each other at one mile unless you are in the desert... Usually it is close encounters in an urban or forested area, with a few clearings not long enough to worry about... You give an enemy long ranges like that and he will more likely drop some 120mm artillery on your head than engage you in a fire fight. And the M-16 is hardly more accurate than the AK to warrant these biases... I think it usually 50 Meters at most. Hardly worth bragging about at a max range of 900 Meters versus 850...

24)   8 May 2008 06:35
Darth Mobius
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And I prefer the .50 Barrett Sniper rifle if I want to do some long range killing... AK is more fun for close combat...

25)   8 May 2008 06:55
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Wait wait wait... The AK47 is more Accurate than the M16 in COD4? Jesus H Christ. I got to wonder how much actual shooting research these developers did (or if they simply don't care).

I mean, don't get me wrong, I lives me an AK. For reals. And I hate the M16 with a firey passion. But the M16 is clearly the more accurate weapon.

26)   8 May 2008 07:10
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If I want some fun adrenaline pumping action I use the semi-auto shotgun with double tap, grip then go mad. :)

27)   8 May 2008 07:19
clockworkzombie
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I think it comes down to how much recoil you are willing to accept when discussing 7.62 vs 5.56, both are effective cartridges. I think 3 round burst is much more interesting when using 7.62.

28)   8 May 2008 07:33
Fire Daemon
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Why can't you ask this in the COD4 FORUMS!

I like the AK though ;)

29)   8 May 2008 07:33
Darth Mobius
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clockworkzombie:
I think it comes down to how much recoil you are willing to accept when discussing 7.62 vs 5.56, both are effective cartridges. I think 3 round burst is much more interesting when using 7.62.

Thank you, I know... Most people prefer to have the greater stopping power, and greater reliability of the AK. Why do you think the government actually had to ISSUE ORDERS Banning troops from picking up and using captured AKs because they disliked the M-16 so much? It sucked at first. BADLY. And just for the sake of the OP... The M-4 and M-16 are Completely different guns. The M-4 is more compact and lighter to make it easier to use in tight areas such as an urban battlefield. A little less stopping power, too...

30)   8 May 2008 10:48
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Really unrealistic though, the AK47's manufacturing press plates cost about 200 pounds thats why its the gun of choice for poor countries, unfortunately it IS really badly made and innacurate, what ever COD 4's vain claims to realism lead you to believe, oh, and the M16 sticks alot so by default its the M4.

31)   8 May 2008 11:42
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Sadly i've yet to unlock M16 (I think) so i'll just say I like the G36C, carbine and like any true stargate fan the P90.

32)   8 May 2008 12:09
Joos
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I prefer the Swedish AK5 in real life. Basically, because it is as reliable as an AK47 in the mud and grub and I can hit stuff from 300 meters away without a scope.

In COD4 though, I prefer the G36.

33)   8 May 2008 12:19
Fire Daemon
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Knight Templar:
Sadly i've yet to unlock M16 (I think) so i'll just say I like the G36C, carbine and like any true stargate fan the P90.

Seeing as how you start off with it I'm guessing you have at some point unlocked it.

34)   8 May 2008 12:26
TomNook
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The SAW and the M104, monster power, monster accuracy, and look amazing in gold.

35)   8 May 2008 12:37
R Man
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Remember that in practiacal use no assault rifle would be as accurate as in a comupter game.

Both the Ak-47 and the M16 were built around different principles. An M16 is a more acurate weapon, but in the hands of a skilled user who new how to handle it a K was accurate enough. Not as accurate as the M16 but it wasn't that bad. The K is alround tougher and cheaper and has better penetration power and loss less of that power over its range.

Hence why I prefer the Ak in COD4 over the M16 but everyone likes different things.

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