Here: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=1482

Notice vent shaft by the girders. Awesome.

Looks a bit bright to be Deus Ex.

And what's so special about the vent shaft?

REDPill357:
Looks a bit bright to be Deus Ex.

And what's so special about the vent shaft?

It's Deus Ex it has to have vent shaft's to spend age's crawling about in getting lost, falling out on top of guards....
It looks great but I've all way's been a believer in don't believe the hype, so I won't be shitting my pants with excitement until the game's in my DVD drive. I've found if I spend too much time looking into a game's development before I get it I am often disappointed in them not meeting feature's promised or in some way not living up to what they/ people / I say the game will be like. Waiting to find out exactly what's in the game when you get it means everything is a surprise, and you get the OH MY GOD THEY PUT THAT IN! effect rather then meh it could have been better if they'd done it in blah blah blah method.

i could be all cynnical and say that sequels are never as good as the original and just look at deus ex 2 which was a bit of a disappointment but hell

im still excited at the thought of deus ex 3.

Najal:

im still excited at the thought of deus ex 3.

i was excited at Deus ex 2 and look what happened.

nightfish:

Najal:

im still excited at the thought of deus ex 3.

i was excited at Deus ex 2 and look what happened.

I was excited about Mario Galaxy, and look what happened.

DIGITAL ORGASM.

Sure, getting sucked into the hype is a pretty bad idea, but you should still look forward to stuff.

Hopefully Deus Ex 3 will prove to be better than the crapfest that was the Invisible War.

*sigh*

I really wish people would ditch the whole "Invisible war was a crap game" thing, because it ISN'T. I just wish people would learn how to review it on its own merits, rather than comparing it to the first game, which was slightly better.

Yes, slightly. People blow the slight quality difference massively out of proportion, though.

If Deus Ex had never existed, Invisible War would have been hailed as one of the all-time great games. Instead, its slightly superior predecessor means that it's doomed to be unfairly panned for the rest of time as "bad", when it's not.

If I have one single goal in my whole life, it's to at least make ONE PERSON see reason over this.

Anyway, Deus Ex 3, woo. Definitely looking forward to that. Hope it uses Unreal 3.

Lots of people see reason. More people are retards.

nightfish:

Najal:

im still excited at the thought of deus ex 3.

i was excited at Deus ex 2 and look what happened.

Meh, according to the interviews the developers have taken such complaints on board and are really going back to the roots of Deus Ex.

*Walks away, grinning malevolently*

Melaisis:

nightfish:

Najal:

im still excited at the thought of deus ex 3.

i was excited at Deus ex 2 and look what happened.

Meh, according to the interviews the developers have taken such complaints on board and are really going back to the roots of Deus Ex.

I'm going to answer to why I put in this statement.

Basically - I was amazed with Deus Ex as was everyone who played it. I couldn't beleive that a game was this good - that someone actually put so much effort into a program.

I played Deus Ex 2 and the reason why I was disappointed is because what made Deus Ex good was taken out. The complexity was reduced, the story was shallower etc

I am going to buy the third installment but they need to return to what made Deus Ex great.

Looks good, never played the first one but I played about halfway through DE2 and loved every second of it. The reason I didn't play the first one first was because from what I'd heard I'd just be disappointed by the sequel when I was finished with the first. So I played the "worst" game first and never got around to finishing it and starting on the "best" one.

Might need to get around to that before I start playing the third.

EittilDratsab:
Hopefully Deus Ex 3 will prove to be better than the crapfest that was the Invisible War.

That "crapfest" is my most loved game.

If it's as good as Deus Ex (the first one) only with better graphics and not as lame as Invisible War was, then I'll be interested. I loved the first Deus Ex game and played the crap out of it. Invisible War, not so much. Didn't even finish the first half of the game as I got bored with it.

I was disappointed in IW, but I didn't hate it. No it wasn't nearly as good as DX but it was a damned good game taken on its own merits. If this game had been called CyberShock, or FutureShock then the critics would have peed themselves saying how great is was, how innovative and original just like they did with BioShock.

Deus Ex:
- Re-awakened my interest in cyberpunk to the point where I started reading William Gibson.
- Was so mesmerising that I've played through it over a dozen times.
- Featured exactly the right kind of near-future technology in a believable manner.
- Made me want to read through every word of every datacube, email and newspaper.
- Had a hilarious developer quote file.
- Had characters and factions I could empathise with or genuinely dislike.
- Made me search out every last detail like the hidden conversations with Ford Schick in which he tells you that you've been a carrier for the Gray Death for years, etc.

Invisible War:
- Did/had none of the above.
- Quote file was not hilarious.
- Made me buy two Kidneythieves albums. Which are still awesome.

Besides the fact that Invisible War did away with the masses of text that I loved trawling through in the first game, besides the fact that it was clearly a console port beaten in the weak attempt stakes only by Star Trek Legacy, besides the inexplicably AWFUL universal ammo system, and the fact that they completely altered Chad Dumier's character seemingly on a whim, and the fact that the Greys talked... the biggest damn problem Invisible War suffered from was that it had an intro movie that was better than the rest of the game in its entirety. Also, having the guy who voiced Walton Simons provide an identical voice for one of the scientists in said intro movie and leading us to believe that maybe this character was in fact the Wade Walker figure from the tank in Area 51, NO, a brief holo-comm dialogue with Dr Nassif reveals that this character was... a bloke called Stan. Who was never seen again.

If Deus Ex 3 does come out, hopefully they will fix the dumbing down for consoles that plagued the second one, but I doubt it.

I honestly don't get why people expect DX3 to be bad. Clearly Eidos is aware of what was wrong with IW, and since 3 wasn't one of the titles to be scrapped they are pretty adamant about not only being sure that it's going to be released but they also are damned sure it will be good. They want this franchise to be successful.

the problem with IW its that didnt delivered what we expected, i mean the rpg system we liked of the original was taked out, the scenerarios were smaller, i dont knw how much changed the characters, but the plot didnt inspered me to keep going on the game.

Loved the 1st one. I just hope they learned and don't dumb it down for consoles. I am not going to say IW was a horrible game, it wasn't, but for me it did not live up to my expectations formed from playing the 1st one.

I will be intently watching for this and Thief 3.

nightfish:
The complexity was reduced, the story was shallower etc

This especially is an itch that I'm not willing to leave un-scratched, because I honestly found the Invisible War story to be a little better.

At the end of the day, the story of Deus Ex, if not the gameplay, only presented you with meaningful choice at the very end. In Invisible War, your philosophy and political opinion is established near the start of the game.

DE1 places Denton in a position to decide the fate of the world. IW challenges the assumption that he is qualified to do so.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a deeper, and subtler philosophical question that is being asked in Invisible War, and the game's plot is all the richer for it.

Rath709:
Deus Ex:
- Re-awakened my interest in cyberpunk to the point where I started reading William Gibson.
- Was so mesmerising that I've played through it over a dozen times.
- Featured exactly the right kind of near-future technology in a believable manner.
- Made me want to read through every word of every datacube, email and newspaper.
- Had a hilarious developer quote file.
- Had characters and factions I could empathise with or genuinely dislike.
- Made me search out every last detail like the hidden conversations with Ford Schick in which he tells you that you've been a carrier for the Gray Death for years, etc.

Invisible War:
- Did/had none of the above.
- Quote file was not hilarious.
- Made me buy two Kidneythieves albums. Which are still awesome.

Besides the fact that Invisible War did away with the masses of text that I loved trawling through in the first game, besides the fact that it was clearly a console port beaten in the weak attempt stakes only by Star Trek Legacy, besides the inexplicably AWFUL universal ammo system, and the fact that they completely altered Chad Dumier's character seemingly on a whim, and the fact that the Greys talked... the biggest damn problem Invisible War suffered from was that it had an intro movie that was better than the rest of the game in its entirety. Also, having the guy who voiced Walton Simons provide an identical voice for one of the scientists in said intro movie and leading us to believe that maybe this character was in fact the Wade Walker figure from the tank in Area 51, NO, a brief holo-comm dialogue with Dr Nassif reveals that this character was... a bloke called Stan. Who was never seen again.

Now again I say IW is my fav' game, but it does get annoying that.

Having not played the first game I had a little trouble with the story.
Plus it seemed a little thin.

AngryMan:

nightfish:
The complexity was reduced, the story was shallower etc

This especially is an itch that I'm not willing to leave un-scratched, because I honestly found the Invisible War story to be a little better.

At the end of the day, the story of Deus Ex, if not the gameplay, only presented you with meaningful choice at the very end. In Invisible War, your philosophy and political opinion is established near the start of the game.

DE1 places Denton in a position to decide the fate of the world. IW challenges the assumption that he is qualified to do so.

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As far as I'm concerned, it's a deeper, and subtler philosophical question that is being asked in Invisible War, and the game's plot is all the richer for it.

well, after of read that im convinced that IW had a plot with more depth, but the problem i had with the plot is that the moral twists and all that happens too soon, too quickly just at the start of the game and the new roles of chad dumier and nicollette duclare, all that had me really confuzed without know to who work with and i simply lost the interest in the game.

I'm not expecting it to be bad, I'm just not expecting it to be as good as the first. But then again, they could surprise me. To that end, the fact that it's using an engine the dev team is already familiar with should help.

Dudes, I didn`t even know they were making another Deus Ex game! I`m happy whatever may come.

I'm happy about another Deus Ex coming. And I have to admit I have visited the Eidos DX3 forums a few times. I stopped visiting them just because of a simple reason:
There is no information out there on the game that's worth discussing to any length. Watching the teaser and going "oooh, nice, another DX!" is fine, looking at a piece of concept art and appreciating or disliking its style, fine, too. But that's all there currently is to DX3. So I didn't visit the forums again and allowed me to calm myself a bit.
Now I'm back at the point where I was after watching the teaser: Hoping for a great game with (hopefully) some depth and complexity to it. I don't expect DX3 to be bad, but seeing how current games, that are being hailed as deep or complex, look, I can't help but be very cautious.

Sihdhartha:
I will be intently watching for this and Thief 3.

You mean 4? Don't get your hopes up, Looking Glass Studio's are no more and most likely if any one bought the Thief rights, it just wouldn't be Thief. I miss Garrett, I'm off to sulk and bonk some Hammerites on the head.

As for Deus Ex 3, Hmmmm. I never got around to playing IW due to uproar, I shall have to track down a copy and see for myself. Who knows, I could learn to love it.