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VRaptorX
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You think that one statement was a little too over the top, even by Zero Punctuation standards? I mean, saying that there has never been even 1 good JRPG ever? I understand bias is going to come through in every news/reviewer/etc (except BBC for some odd reason) but that was boarderline evangelical bias.

Kehan Wann
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never have played a jrpg so i have no idea

TexasCiner
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Heh, well I will say that the man is entitled to his opinion. Not everyone has to like JRPGs. Hell, even if they are genuinely good games like Chrono Trigger there are people that just don't enjoy them. Since good is a relative term, defined by the likes and dislikes of a person, I'd say his statement is truth for him alone.

Anarchemitis
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Bah, you're just another one of those who post threads based upon ZP vids. It happens every week.
And most people I could imagine could care less for his opinions seeing as they're 70% Entertainment, 15% Reveiw and 15% 'the lulz'.

VRaptorX
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Anarchemitis:
Bah, you're just another one of those who post threads based upon ZP vids. It happens every week.
And most people I could imagine could care less for his opinions seeing as they're 70% Entertainment, 15% Reveiw and 15% 'the lulz'.

correct me if I'm wrong but this is the first thread I've done that is about any of the ZP vids.

Lvl 64 Klutz
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Still, let's leave the ZP discussion in the ZP threads. I sense a lock approaching...

Nanvk
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What does JRPG stand for anyways?

VRaptorX
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Nanvk:
What does JRPG stand for anyways?

Japanese Role Playing Game

Larenxis
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Haven't played enough JRPGs to have a real opinion. Don't care for Final Fantasy though. Seems like I'm a minority in that sense, but I don't see the appeal.

Mstrswrd
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Okay, now to knitpick. Yahtzee has stated that he also enjoys the Earthbound (Mother in Japan) and Paper Mario series of JRPG's.

Larenxis:
Haven't played enough JRPGs to have a real opinion. Don't care for Final Fantasy though. Seems like I'm a minority in that sense, but I don't see the appeal.

I don't like Final Fantasy either. Only Advent Children because it's a huge CG fightscene.

TheNecroswanson
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It is my loud opinion that JRPGs suck. Very much so. Ridiculous hair, cyberpunk/steampunk crossovers where everyone and their dog looks like a girl. And turn based combat in a video game!? Blech. I just vomitted a little.

Anyway, to echo a previous poster: We have threads to discuss Zero punctuation. Keep ZP discussin, in it's proper thread. 'Lest the boards become flooded with fanboys and trolls.

Pyre1million
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I know of a load of good JRPGs. Unfortunately I can't remember any of the damn titles.

Further, Yahtzee's statement, other than being there purely for offensive humor, comes of his own dislike for the genre (which he explains himself in the review). It's purely opinion, and as that's all most reviews ever really are, one must simply take it as such and pass it by if their opinion differs.

There was a huge thread awhile back that compared JRPGs and Western RPGs and went into humorously exact detail about the benefits and flaws of each (Short version: detailed and moving story, little player effect on said story versus intense player effect on world but not knowing what the HELL is going on)

There are ZP specific threads? This really does rather belong there, I suppose...

ElArabDeMagnifico
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ZP is pretty much an extremist - if he enjoyed a game he's going to say the sun shines out it's ass (?) after criticizing it for a while. If he hates it, say, the triggers of the PS3 controller, than he'll say "avoid the PS3 version" - even though it's pretty much a matter of preference.

Nugoo
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As a gigantic jRPG fan, I can say that there are plenty of good jRPG's. That is to say that jRPG is a fairly well defined template, and there are plenty of games that fit it well. If your idea of a good jRPG is a wRPG, then you have unrealistic expectations of the genre.

Larenxis, if you don't see the appeal of any of the Final Fantasy games, jRPG's are probably not your cup of tea. Or some other caffeinated beverage, if tea isn't your cup of tea.

wilsonscrazybed
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Feel free to discuss ZP reviews in the appropriate thread.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.60877

 
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