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ShyWinter
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Evil, non-military villains with an ungodly number of masked henchmen. This is big with arcade shooters. Where do all these guys come from? How do you arrange over 80 bad guys to show up at one place at the same time wearing the same ski mask? Plus if the boss is so strong, and so capable, why does he wait for you to kill his ENTIRE army before fighting you? What's with all the "I'll let so-and-so deal with you" nonsense?

I also don't understand why in some games you can never kill police no matter how much they shoot you but soldiers are fair game. The same can be said about how you are never directed to attack NATO country soldiers; it's always a Nazi, Russian, or Arab.

Orion Magus
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ScreamingCrab:

Swords somehow doing more damage than bullets. It shouldn't be allowed!

Sethran:
Swords do more damage than bullets in reality, why should it be different in video games?

A large bladed object ripping through your flesh, muscle, and internal organs is bound to have more effect than a small piece of lead piercing your skin, muscle, and, if aimed right, maybe a major organ.

Please make my day now and tell me you are one of those fellows who brings a sword to a gun fight.

Shadow Tyrant
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Ooh, ooh! I've got one.

Giant. Boobs.

ScreamingCrab
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Shadow Tyrant:
Ooh, ooh! I've got one.

Giant. Boobs.

Yeah, actually. I'd like a game where everyone isn't some shiny gift to the opposite sex. Howabout a game full of ugly people? Or people who look normal? IE: Ugly but with a lot of effort on their hair?

Frank from Dead Rising would be a good example. More Franks!

Graustein
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The number three.
It's always three.
Three hits on the weak spot, three Triforces, three main characters (you, the sidekick/damsel in distress and the villain).

And eyes. It's ALWAYS the eyes that you have to shoot at.

AND ANDROSS CLONES.
This only really applies in Nintendo games, but there are just too many bosses that have the basic "floating head with disembodied hands" model.

Xhumed
Gone Gonzo
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HalfShadow:
The guy you're working for/with is actually the bad guy but you don't know it.

First time i came across that one in a game was Double Dragon on the Master System II. was playing it with my brother. He was very suprised when i started kicking him at the final room...

Xhumed
Gone Gonzo
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Shadow Tyrant:
Ooh, ooh! I've got one.

Giant. Boobs.

you've got one giant boob?

Swenglish
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Double Jump. Nuff said.

Xhumed
Gone Gonzo
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ScreamingCrab:

Sethran:
Swords do more damage than bullets in reality, why should it be different in video games?

A large bladed object ripping through your flesh, muscle, and internal organs is bound to have more effect than a small piece of led piercing your skin, muscle, and, if aimed right, maybe a major organ.

Nah, wound ballistics generally do more than that. A sword would also rely on cutting through the ribcage unless aimed right. There's a general reason swords aren't used any more.

The reason is: guns can be fired from faaaaaaar away. And these days, faster than chopping at someone with a hunk of metal. But disembowling someone is more satisfying with a blade (and easier)

Swenglish
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Oh I know another one. Shield Generators.

Saphatorael
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TheIceface:

Saphatorael:

HardRockSamurai:
Invincible Trees

How do you know they're trees if you can't see them? :o

I can't tell if you're serious or not, either way, I'm busting a gut over here.

Right, I've no idea how I misread it as invisible. Must be exam stress, gah.

Icedrake402
Paperboy
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Joined: 26 Feb 2008

Shadow Tyrant:
Ooh, ooh! I've got one.

Giant. Boobs.

And in general, outfits for female characters that make it look like they finished their shift at the local strip club and didn't have time to change before they had to save the world. It's entirely possible to have characters who are good-looking without being absurdly sexualised, so could we see more of that, please?

TheIceface
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Saphatorael:

HardRockSamurai:
Invincible Trees

How do you know they're trees if you can't see them? :o
Right, I've no idea how I misread it as invisible. Must be exam stress, gah.

Too late, I already laughed, you can't take it back now, its the rules.

Xhumed:

Shadow Tyrant:
Ooh, ooh! I've got one.

Giant. Boobs.

you've got one giant boob?

No, read it again, he puts periods after them. This is obviously a new method of counting, 1, giant, boobs, 4, huge, tits, 7, enormous.... I encourage this, I got tired of 1, 2, 3, 4 a long time ago.

Unless the periods are just there for fun in which case he has one giant boobS, not 1 giant boob, there is an "s" for a reason.

Xhumed
Gone Gonzo
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TheIceface:

Xhumed:

Shadow Tyrant:
Ooh, ooh! I've got one.

Giant. Boobs.

you've got one giant boob?

No, read it again, he puts periods after them. This is obviously a new method of counting, 1, giant, boobs, 4, huge, tits, 7, enormous.... I encourage this, I got tired of 1, 2, 3, 4 a long time ago.

Unless the periods are just there for fun in which case he has one giant boobS, not 1 giant boob, there is an "s" for a reason.

a)it was joke, and b) it was late and i had insomnia :p

Shadow Tyrant
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This is the internet. None of your jokes are safe.

TheIceface
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I think the truth is that you really have one giant boobs.

ScreamingCrab
Paperboy
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I bet he feels a bit of a tit now.

Boom boom.

TheMadDoctorsCat
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Icedrake: "And in general, outfits for female characters that make it look like they finished their shift at the local strip club and didn't have time to change before they had to save the world. It's entirely possible to have characters who are good-looking without being absurdly sexualised, so could we see more of that, please?"

Jeez, can you tone it down a bit? If you post enough comments like that, someone might actually try it! If the elven maiden / spellcaster wants to wear a split pink tank top and spandex in the middle of an arctic climate, the elven maiden / spellcaster SHOULD wear a split pink tank top and spandex in the middle of an arctic climate goddammit!

fsanch
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I'd have to go with "the final boss is not really the final boss", whether that is multiple forms or the old "haha, this isn't the final villain, this ridiculously hard final fight is".

Worst recent offender: Persona 3: FES, which makes you defeat 13 different type forms of the final boss.

HalfShadow
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Yeah, but that's not exactly hard. The final boss is a throwaway fight.

TheIceface
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TheMadDoctorsCat:

If the elven maiden / spellcaster wants to wear a split pink tank top and spandex in the middle of an arctic climate, the elven maiden / spellcaster SHOULD wear a split pink tank top and spandex in the middle of an arctic climate goddammit!

Heh, dude, you said "maiden", that makes me laugh a little inside. Plus taking this quote out of context is an excellent way for a laugh, I think I want to see it on a bumper sticker or a T-shirt.

Of course the female characters have to be models/anorexic with borderline nudity, otherwise there wouldn't be as big of a geeky perverted audience. T.V. and movies do the exact same thing. Not saying its not a huge cliche, but there is an obvious reason behind it. I mean, nobody wants to play "Ugly Betty in a Mu-mu Extreme Beach Volleyball"... unless they're really into volleyball.

The Bandit
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Drbog:
In my opinion mute CAN be good look at HL2 what would it be like if Gorden ran around screaming he's being chased by a man in a bussiness suit?

The problem with this, though, is why doesn't he mention the G-Man to anyone? Does he feel special that he has some little secret?

EDIT: Though I do agree with you. Half-Life wouldn't be Half-Life if Gordon talked.

TJ rock 101
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Swenglish:
Double Jump. Nuff said.

double jumps are retarded...
"hey i can jump high but if i try do my jump movement in the air i somehow go twice the hight!"
a man that can jump over a bus should not be allowed outside or the next 5 new games will have that too

TheIceface
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The Bandit:

The problem with this, though, is why doesn't he mention the G-Man to anyone? Does he feel special that he has some little secret?

Hey, if I was Gordon, I would be hesitant to tell people about my magical friend in a business suit that stops time and likes locking doors and staring through the windows at me.

TJ rock 101
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and bosses always want you to know where their weak spot is...
like if the boss is a monster you can bloody bet you have to shoot its mouth, it will roar at you and show it off for you.
and stomachs are frequent weak spots too... what to people have against left knees? ^^

Rentsy
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Sethran:
Swords do more damage than bullets in reality, why should it be different in video games?

A large bladed object ripping through your flesh, muscle, and internal organs is bound to have more effect than a small piece of lead piercing your skin, muscle, and, if aimed right, maybe a major organ.

My response is that, as a fencer, I have many things to blunt, deflect, or lessen the blow (Armor, my sword, my ability to move out of the way).

There's actually an engraving of a guy with a sword trying to parry a pistol. The audience is dutifully horrified.

This trope can be seen in the energy sword, Grav hammer, chainsaw... and, if I may, I'll group the shotguns of Halo and Gears as melee weapons, reenforcing the idea that the only way to hurt someone good is to get in their face (dramatically).

I suppose I want a game where getting shot once starts to kill you, and then you've only got 30 seconds to do anything tactically significant before you can't even point your gun at the enemy, slowly loosing consciousness, your screen fading into darkness and your world turning to nothingness. And yes, I did appreciate the death scenes in Hitman: Blood Money.

klc0100
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mainly in gta games a deal going wrong i remember one mission in gta 4 when you meet the guy on the street take him to a drug deal then take him home and NOTHING bad happens..i was like wow but then again the game without deals going wrong would be boring so im not complaining

conqueror Kenny
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klc0100:
mainly in gta games a deal going wrong i remember one mission in gta 4 when you meet the guy on the street take him to a drug deal then take him home and NOTHING bad happens..i was like wow but then again the game without deals going wrong would be boring so im not complaining

I don't see the fun in every deal going right. But they at least tried to mix it up.

BallPtPenTheif
Gone Gonzo
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Orbs

i fucking hate Orbs with a passion. they make visible a game mechanic who's visibility adds nothing to the game.

imagine playing an RPG and having stat points lying around on the floor so you could whip out your broom and clean them up. Orbs are the same thing only with an added light show, turning that dark evil gothic castle into a bi-sexual raver's light show.

RonaldBakbacon
Paperboy
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BallPtPenTheif:
Orbs are the same thing only with an added light show, turning that dark evil gothic castle into a bi-sexual raver's light show.

I KNOW MY NEXT PARTY THEME

scoHish
Copy Clerk
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Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Good ol' nazis, zombies, exploding barrels, and of course female sidekicks with impossibly large lady parts. Might be cliche but the formula seems to be working pretty well dontcha think...

shadow skill
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Swords in games, I know full well that swords have been around long enough in human culture to be imparted with magical properties unlike guns, but there are other types of melee weapons out there damn it!

TheIceface
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BallPtPenTheif:
Orbs

The term is "lens flare" and its been pissing me off since Phantasy Star Online.

Lazzi
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BigCat91:
Plus it's not skin alone. (I know im gonna sound racist but living in a neighborhood with primarily white people and growing up with chapelle and loving mencia you can't help but to notice this.) body features help give a more type of look. Like if your a hispanic you will normally have a specific type of nose mixed with brown skin. White can be brownish because of tanning alot i work in the sun have the time i look at pictures of me in the summer and winter and i confuse myself because it can change so dramatically.

That works great with sertain things but i wouldnt go around say the majority of X people have Y trait. The biggest example is hispanics, there (ok WERE) divided into two groups hispanics and latinos. Hispanics are more of a eclectic cultur so our aperence is a like a game of russian ruelet, latinos on the other hand are you classic pure aztec/mayan warrior.

but i do agree with you god of wars Cratos look like an albino black guy...

p.s. im no racist and in dyslexic so i dont want any of that "your a horrible person for a) you commentary, or b) you distruction of the english language. Im and american born citizen so dotn even says shit like "leave this country you beaner"

Novajam
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I don't think that Vehicle sections are too much of a problem, I'd just wish that the vehicle would handle like an actual car or truck or whatever it's supposed to be instead of a bar of soap on a slip-and-slide covered with vaseline.

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