I know similar topics have been posted before but hear me out first.

Here are the release dates for major exclusives coming out for the PS3 compared to those for the 360.

SOCOM: Confrontation (Sept 2008)
Fracture (October 2008)
Little Big Planet (October 2008)
Motorstorm: Pacific Rim (October 2008)
Resistance 2 (November 2008)
WipEout HD (TBA 2008)
Killzone 2 (Feb 2009)
Final Fantasy XIII (TBA 2009)
Gran Turismo 5 (TBA 2009)
White Knight Story (TBA 2009)
God of War 3 (TBA 2009)

vs. The 360 Lineup

Hei$t (Aug 2008)
Tales of Vesperia (Aug 2008)
Infinite Undiscovery (Sep 2008)
Tiberium (Sep 2008)
Fable 2 (Otc 2008)
Halo Wars (Oct 2008)
Gears of War 2 (Nov 2008)
Left 4 Dead (Nov 2008)
Alan Wake (TBA 2009)
Mass Effect 2 (TBA 2009)
Star Ocean: The Last Hope (TBA 2009)

Now, given these exclusives and given the core audience of each system, keeping in mind that the 360 seems to have snagged the Squeenix/Namco RPG exclusives that the PS2 used to get in the last generation. Keep in mind that I did not reference some of the more obscure, unknown titles on the PS3 or the 360, only major releases from major companies.

Can the PS3 build up enough momentum to surivive 2009 or is Sony only staving off the inevitable?

(Feel free to let me know if I missed any games, Exclusives only, no cross platform games)

Infinite Undiscovery is a timed exclusive. Don't be surprised if Star Ocean 4 makes its way to the PS3 just like Eternal Sonata. There have been a few new RPG's for the PS2 and then there are games like Disgaea 3, and FFXIII to think about. So please Microsoft has not snagged much of anything at all, I don't really know where all of this "ZOMG Sony is Losing the RPG exclusives!!" is coming from; compared to FFIII alone no one cares about these other series outside of Japan and the Japanese are probably not going to just go buy 360's for these games when the last major RPG release on the 360 made it's way to the PS3 and the most high profile JRPG on that list other than SO is known to be a timed exclusive.

Dude, this argument, even as you have put it has been done to death.

Sony has had a tendency to work longer and games, and thus produce less, but better games.
Microsoft and it's affiliates have been rushing games, and hoping to god one or two become gems.
It's business. Both have been holding up fine so far. Let it die. God.

oh god, don't start this again!

How is this argument valid in 2009?

there aren't that many games that we know of that either have a definite release date in 2009 or just somewhere in 2009.

You're list just shows 5 games for the PS3 that will be released in 2009, and OMG 3 games for the Xbox360. OH NOEZ, the PS3 will totally not survive 2009 with 5 possible releases in the year, all possibly spread out through the course of the year.

I agree with TheNecroswanson, Sony usually works longer on games to make them (usually) better, and M$ tries to rush them (most of the time).

This whole argument is pointless, as there is no argument to begin with. Sorry if i'm sounding pissy, but i'm very annoyed with these threads saying "Will the PS3 survive?" or "PS3 has no exclusives!" just please, stop it....for the children.

I was actually looking more at the quality/hype regarding the various titles in the rosters and wondering whether people thought the quality of the PS3's exclusives would be enough to keep it moving.

You know what I think? I think the SEGA Dreamcast is going to make a comeback. C'mon man, it's gonna happen! The mod community for it is outstanding and there's like...1/2 a million sitting in a warehouse somewhere. And they're all free!

just stop before we brand you a troll!

Fracture is multi

L.B. Jeffries:
You know what I think? I think the SEGA Dreamcast is going to make a comeback. C'mon man, it's gonna happen! The mod community for it is outstanding and there's like...1/2 a million sitting in a warehouse somewhere. And they're all free!

What? Free Dreamcasts? How? Where??!?!

I think that about half the games you listed as 360 exclusives are also being released on PC (although some will be delayed a bit). It's not really an exclusive unless it's actually exclusive is it?

fable 2 in oct? i love Sir Peter and all but me thinks it will be pushed back again

i think you're also missing that God of War, Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo are HUGE sellers and motorstorm will soon be that, first one is such a great game, cept when you have to drive those stupid big rigs

Flunk:
I think that about half the games you listed as 360 exclusives are also being released on PC (although some will be delayed a bit). It's not really an exclusive unless it's actually exclusive is it?

exactly why i don't own a 360, just wait 6 months and get it on pc and usually with more stuff :)

EDIT: added quote and last part

Flunk:
I think that about half the games you listed as 360 exclusives are also being released on PC (although some will be delayed a bit). It's not really an exclusive unless it's actually exclusive is it?

Console exclusive and besides the 1985 Mario NES is on PC,PSP,DS,GBA, etc so is it exclusive (emulators)

shatnershaman:

Console exclusive and besides the 1985 Mario NES is on PC,PSP,DS,GBA, etc so is it exclusive (emulators)

wrong, emulation is emulation, you are tricking the software into thinking it's running on different hardware. sides most emulators aren't officially released or supported and have questionable legal status at best

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:

L.B. Jeffries:
You know what I think? I think the SEGA Dreamcast is going to make a comeback. C'mon man, it's gonna happen! The mod community for it is outstanding and there's like...1/2 a million sitting in a warehouse somewhere. And they're all free!

What? Free Dreamcasts? How? Where??!?!

Is this the free Dreamcast give away??
No, this is an intervention.
Did you give away all the Dreamcasts?
No, that was just a lie to get you to come here today. We want you to si-
Can I have yours?

So, it's exclusive if we put on blinders and hum to ourselves pretending computers do not exist?

The emulation argument has already been properly dispatched.

*tear* Oh well My Mario RPG PSP still works even though its not a "thoroughbred"

Dreamcast is still technically alive actually, at least for some top down style shooters. I personally wish that Microsoft focused it's RPG offensive on getting Western RPG's like The Witcher onto it's console because it is going to take a complete hardware redesign to have any chance of really cracking the Japanese market. It would also help to spend money on building first and second party support for their console. I'm getting tired of seeing so many "Me too" releases for this console. This whole offensive does nothing to alter the brand image problem that they have right now. Building up a diverse stable of first and second party titles would. They do not need Jrpg's that people know to be Sony franchises (rightly or wrongly.) They need games like Jade Empire, KOTOR, they need games that are not going to end up on a PC. They need to make sure that games like DOA and NG don't get perfected versions on other consoles. (In other words they would be stupid to not buy off Itagaki and as many Team Ninja members as possible.)

My 360 has been getting love lately why? Because I have a game for it that I can reasonably expect won't be on my prefered console or PC any time soon in NG2. I'm actually looking forward to August because I want to try out Too Human. But for an overwhelming number of games I might be even remotely interested in on the 360 I have no reasonable expectation that there won't be a better release on the PS3 or PC. That problem does not exist on either of the other consoles for one reason or another.

Microsoft has enjoyed an advantage in part because so many people don't understand that the features they love so much on the 360 have nothing to do with Xbox Live itself and are just properties of the operating system. If Sony ever gets off it's ass and gives people voice chat and text messaging while inside any game, there will be nothing left that Microsoft can claim as a meaningful advantage over their direct competitor in the online arena.(This looks like it will happen soon.)

Ironically Sony has a simillar problem with their handheld in that they don't quite have enough in the way of brand power to truly dethrone Nintendo which just holds an absolute dominion over that market.

Hei$t,Tiberium,Fracture,Left 4 Dead are all coming to the PC and PS3.So how are they exclusives to the xbox 360?? Alan Wake is coming to pc at the same time as the 360.

*long.exasperated.sigh*

all consoles have merit for different people, i own a 360 and a wii, my brother owns a 360 and a ps3, my cousin owns a wii and a ps3, there's enough unique content on each to cater for everyone. none of them are going to "lose" because there's nothing to lose.
"cunsul-wurzs" and all that lies therein was coined by the damn official magazines to stir up the old "your either agreeing with us or one of them" adage to rally people to pointless fanboy rages over a nonexistent problem. its all just to stir up a fervor to generate sales and brand loyalty, just as much as those damn psp squirrels, or old people playing wii sports or people setting up a 360 t a train station and having people play it instead of steal it.
This topic is a horse thats been beaten into a fine cloud of paste and "matter", theres no winner or loser, numbers of shifted units will vary for ech depending on seasonal events and games being released, just because you dont like something doesn't mean it will not "survive", i think the ps3 lineup is mediocre right now, but thats one gamers view out of millions who do like the lineup, its different strokes for different folks dude and taking enjoyment out of the possibility of one of the big 3 consoles failing is pointless and stupid, that just means less variety, just as sony wouldn't pick up half the games nintendo does, Microsoft wouldn't pick up every game sony would either.

and for the record i prefer the dreamcast over all 3.

I have a question survive what?

shatnershaman:
I have a question survive what?

i have no idea, i think he means in sales.

I really wish people would research this before asking, the PS3 is selling strong, even outselling the others sometimes, it starts slow and now its... dying?

id keep commenting but i'm busy playing future game of the year 'MGS4'

Which console is Tekkan 6 going to be on? whichever it is i must get.

Sony did pretty much everything wrong this time, but they can limp through this generation, much like nintendo did w/ the gamecube. If they fuck up again, though, they're toast a la Sega.

TrevorOfCrete:
Which console is Tekkan 6 going to be on? whichever it is i must get.

PS3/360

Is this really happening? Well Hell if we going to start with this topic, let's go ALL in! Oblivion-Epic RPG or Garbage? Will Fallout 3 be incredible or suck? Heath Ledger or Jack Nicholson as the Joker-YOU DECIDE? Feel free to add any topics that have been beaten to DEATH in the last 6 months...

TrevorOfCrete:
Which console is Tekkan 6 going to be on? whichever it is i must get.

Right now according to IGN it's listed as PS3 only. Though you probably are better off getting it for the PS3 even if it does end up on the 360 just because the 360 DPad is so terrible for fighting games.

I'm not sure if this is exactly true (hell, if it's true at all) but my friend said that many developers stated that if Sony wasn't in the console wars then the console wars wouldn't progress technologically, and therefore wouldn't get better consoles

I don't know where he heard it from but that's what he said, and it does makes some sense when you think about it.

UpInSmoke:
Sony did pretty much everything wrong this time, but they can limp through this generation, much like nintendo did w/ the gamecube. If they fuck up again, though, they're toast a la Sega.

I find that funny how some of us already said that the PS3 outsells the Xbox360 almost everywhere else and even the Wii every now and again. Of course, it depends on how you look at it.

Jumplion:
I'm not sure if this is exactly true (hell, if it's true at all) but my friend said that many developers stated that if Sony wasn't in the console wars then the console wars wouldn't progress technologically, and therefore wouldn't get better consoles

I don't know where he heard it from but that's what he said, and it does makes some sense when you think about it.

SNES improved over the NES without sony.

Yes, but was Sony in that console war? No, no they weren't.

shatnershaman:

Jumplion:
I'm not sure if this is exactly true (hell, if it's true at all) but my friend said that many developers stated that if Sony wasn't in the console wars then the console wars wouldn't progress technologically, and therefore wouldn't get better consoles

I don't know where he heard it from but that's what he said, and it does makes some sense when you think about it.

SNES improved over the NES without sony.

yeah, because the SNES was a shining beacon of what gaming should become.

your sarcasm sense is tingling.

I really shouldn't read this thread, it fill me with rage and makes me an asshat. ill just say, put some research into this and youll find the figures surprising.

We better stop this, this is troll food and flame bait.

Jumplion:
Yes, but was Sony in that console war? No, no they weren't.

YOU mean thisconsole war. I thought you meant in general.

Jumplion:
We better stop this, this is troll food and flame bait.

agreed.

heres me... not saying anything.

still not.

Nothing to see here.

Played MGS4 yet?

You should.

Its not plugging, its conversation.

You could play it on your PS3... damnit! i suck at this, i'm just leaving.

shatnershaman:

Jumplion:
Yes, but was Sony in that console war? No, no they weren't.

YOU mean thisconsole war. I thought you meant in general.

in general, if there was no sony there would be no advancement. Hell, sony made the discs to store more memory, i think the blu-ray and a whole bunch of other stuff that advanced the console wars.

last post in this thread.....bye bye.

Ultrajoe:

Jumplion:
We better stop this, this is troll food and flame bait.

agreed.

heres me... not saying anything.

still not.

Nothing to see here.

Played MGS4 yet?

You should.

Its not plugging, its conversation.

You could play it on your PS3... damnit! i suck at this, i'm just leaving.

GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS!!!!