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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2846 Joined: 10 Mar 2008     | |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 388 Joined: 2 Dec 2007     | They made the ps3 not our falt |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2892 Joined: 4 May 2008     | I dislike them because Sony seem pretentious in their press conferences, and condescening to their competition. Also, how are trophies better than Achievements? |
Press Junketeer Posts: 388 Joined: 2 Dec 2007 | Unless i can hit my freinds with my trophies there usless |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1519 Joined: 18 Sep 2007     |
Simple. Sony was the leader of the pack in the last console generation and wasn't shy about telling people that... because we tend to root for the underdog and not the top dog, any time they show weakness in this current generation everybody else dogpiles on 'em. Sony's habit of putting a price premium on all their products and of trying to lock users into their proprietary DRM and hardware standards doesn't help, either. -- Steve |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 437 Joined: 2 Jun 2008  | I have a PS3 and I love it I have the 360 but can't really use it because it keeps breaking in one way or another. but I do have to say a lot of Sony's products are over priced (tv's etc) and they are a bit immoral they never mentioned the sixaxis control idea until Nintendo announced the Wii, they didn't release the trophies till they discovered what a success the achievements on Xbox were (however that was more like stealing a loaf of bread from an evil baker to feed a starving family) |
Beat Writer  Posts: 152 Joined: 24 Apr 2008   | I like my PS3. But I think the problem most people have...and the problem I have with Sony, is that they have questionable morals. They repeatadely lied about when the PS3 would be released, mainly so hopeless fanboys could fight the urge to buy a 360 and not because it was a genuine mistake and they honestly thought they would be ready. Also the DRM rootkit malware thing really pissed me off because it is dodgy and leaves you vulnerable to viruses, and Sony don't have the right to install files onto YOUR computer that YOU can't see or access...and without your permission. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2026 Joined: 7 Mar 2008    |
right and m$ is really nice to their competition and holds hands with them and has a weekly sing-a-long with their competitors. and don't even get me started on Nintendo, at least the bad performance of the gamecube humbled them a bit
right and m$ is any better? they were convicted of lying about LOTS of stuff and are still being fined for it
the ps3 launch thing affected ALL blu-ray players, not just sony, it was a problem with the manufacturing, they explained it as for the DRM issue, look at the crap m$ can do with your computer, they wanted DRM manditory on all systems, they were even pushing for their very own brand of DRM on the hardware level. Sony's DRM thing pales in comparisson to what m$ would like do with your computer and to answer the oringal poster, it's because it's cool to bash Sony, just like it's cool to not like the new Star Wars trilogy or the new Indiana Jones movie. everyone's being unique in their hate just like everyone else |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1139 Joined: 6 Jun 2008 | Because in their whole history in the video game market Sony's only only innovations have been dual analog stick and optical disc with hard drive storage. And those were both with PS1 (or does the Sega CD-i predate the Playstation?). Now all they do is shamelessly copy everyone else and boast about how they and their console are the best. Also Sony has a notable lack of successful exclusives unlike Nintendo and (to a lesser degree) Microsoft. Add to that the numerous glitches that seem to occur with every PS3 firmware update and that Sony seems to have a total lack of creativity (I'm sure we'll be using Playstations distinguished from other Playstation models by a predictably increasing number added to the end until Sony Computer Entertainment goes out of business and the aformentioned copying of innovation). That's why the Sony hate, and I have it too. Not to say I will never buy a PS3 and enjoy some good games on it. After all, Sony didn't make any of them. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 124 Joined: 19 Mar 2008   | I have a 360 and a PS3 and I have to say the 360 gets way more usage and the PS3 online sucks in comparison. I know PS3 online is free, but if I have to pay for my online not to suck then I will gladly do it. Also I have the 5 Sony exclusive games that are any good already so untill they get some more exclusive good games I can't buy any games for it. If it's multiplatform I'll definately buy it on 360 just for better online. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 767 Joined: 1 Jan 2008   | Sony are a bunch of hypocrites. They laughed at the 50% BC of 360 weeks before they axed the feature altogether. And last of all...they flipped Europe off by bringing the PS3 with a £425 price tag. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1828 Joined: 14 Nov 2007 | I actually thought the PS3 had finally managed to lose some of it's stigma. It's finally got some games, Blue-Ray is the winner of the next-gen discs battle. To be honest, all three consoles are drawing in a lot of flack. The Wii because Nintendo is the only developer actually designing anything for it. Microsoft are still getting the fallout from the RROD explosion. Sony... well, actually, they're looking a bit healthy compared to how they were this time last year. Though they do seem to suffer a lot from lazy ports. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2026 Joined: 7 Mar 2008 |
actually they also made the sound system for the SNES and they had a cd attachment made for it already but Nintendo said "no" to that and Sony said "fine we'll make our own" and the playstation was born oh JakubK666 i think that sony had an achievement thing before the live one, ratchet and clank definately had skill points and i'm pretty sure other games had it before then, so sorry but that's a fail on Sony copying, m$ copied :) oh and another big fail is the axing of backwards compat on the ps3, it's only the 40 gig one that doesn't have it, seriously do your homework work before trying to spew m$ fud |
BANNED  Posts: 302 Joined: 6 May 2008 | All ye console warrers hide for the banhammer shalt smite thee. User was banned for: Random answer generator request and also do you have any eccentricities?. (Permanent) |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 462 Joined: 22 Mar 2008 | Unless they retract thier patent of a handheld gaming device with a touch screen, I'm going with they were bastards in stealing and modifying a prototype of a NES disc system, they're a bastard now that they're stealing Nintendo's well established touch screen system. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 2 Joined: 3 Jul 2008 | Its more the fact that they keep presenting the public with bad design choices and the general opinion of "Well we felt like designing it like this, so you're going to have to put up with it". This is true of pretty much everything though. Their computers are good "technically", but you have to put up with third rate pieces of software, or the fact that some old Sony MP3 players would only work on a Sony brand computer, or the memory stick, or the connectors on the digital cameras, or the ATRAC format, the RootKit problem, the list goes on, but I'm tired of expanding on it Proprietary is the best comment to describe Sony. They make stuff so that you have to buy more of their gear just to use it. And on the topic of the PS3 they just seem to be behind, constantly trying to play catch up, to which they have finally done, but its two years late. Finally, one thing that is really annoying is the shameless bullying, and other tactics used to get the Blue Ray ahead of HD. But there are enough rants on the difference between the two so i'll just leave it at that. But that's a whole load of reasons. In their defence, they do make some brilliant LCD TV's, and very nice cameras, even if they are overpriced. And finally, the cell processor is one of the best developments of this decade in processing technology. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3002 Joined: 8 May 2008 | In 2005 I was playing Halo 2 and then I saw this. I love their PSP though but only a hacked one (running windows 95 on it right now) |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 1 Joined: 3 Jul 2008 | Well, I have the advantage of being able to own all three consoles and here is my ranking for each: 1)XBOX 360 2)PlayStation 3 3)The Nintendo Wii In response to the original post, the reason Sony gets most of the bashing is because every field they get into, they promise the best, but can't deliver. My dad works in high-end electronics and so his company was invited to a conference held by Sony to demonstrate the Blu-Ray player; it broke. The damn thing wouldn't work. The PS3 on it's own had a similar problem and after years of delay, it just doesn't seem that well worth it. That's why they get the critisizm. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2053 Joined: 14 Sep 2007 | Console war! Everybody, hit the decks! |
Muckraker  Posts: 326 Joined: 23 Apr 2008   | If Sony put out even half the good games that Microsoft puts out, then we might be nicer to them. But I still Love my Sony Ps3/Blu-ray player. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3002 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Give em a Pineapple! Christ! Fanboy on the Right! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 6127 Joined: 30 Jan 2008  | If you want to look at the Sony exclusives, they're right here. You shouldn't really claim they have none without looking. http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=86124 Anyway, designing for a brand new media format is hard work. Sony have taken a new idea and just run with it. This means it took a lot more effort to design for them, but also meant that Motostorm and Resistance were really cool. And I'd like to again point out that Microsoft did not invent the concept of Points for unique play styles, Insomniac have been doing it for years. |
Paperboy  Posts: 20 Joined: 14 May 2008 | Its a trophy retard that an actual item that why its better than Achievements. Duh duh |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2026 Joined: 7 Mar 2008 |
actually most of the hd-dvd titles will be out on blu-ray later this year. also most electronics store people will say blu-ray blows away hd-dvd with little trouble
right and look how many times bill gates showed of m$ stuff and it failed horribly or didn't even work, more than sony's stuff has failed and don't even get started on failed promises on features, m$ has had more failed promises than Sony and Nintendo and Sega combined |
Paperboy Posts: 20 Joined: 14 May 2008 | wow If Sony put out even half the good games that Microsoft puts out, then we might be nicer to them. xbox 360 has two great games How can you compare the two there even. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3002 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
UT3 is there and I thought PC/1 console games don't count. EDIT: DVD>HD-DVD and Blu-ray Why? Thousands more movies |
Muckraker  Posts: 317 Joined: 14 May 2008   | Sony get picked on because the delay more than hmmm can't think of a decent metaphor, and when they finaly bring out whatever they been promising like JakubK666 said there is usualy more than half of it missing. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 6127 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
Notice how it says +PC? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3002 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Thats what I mean. Do they count? (I'm guessing you say they don't) Heres the list of 360 games (including PC/360 ones)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games List of only 360 (No PC or other console except arcade) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Xbox_360-only_games I like the letter "H" |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 6127 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 | Lets go over it. The 360 exclusives worth a damn can be counted on your fingers - Mass Effect, Halo 3, Gears of War, Crackdown (I never liked it, but I assume some people do), Dead Rising, Perfect Dark Zero (again, couldn't see the appeal). The Ps3 exclusives worth a damn are MGS4, Resistance:Fall Of Man, Uncharted, Haze (just kidding), Heavenly Sword, Warhawk and R & C : Tools of Destruction. The score reads a tie at 6 to 6. What may skew some people judgement is that they count shared titles as 360 exclusives. |
Muckraker  Posts: 320 Joined: 20 Mar 2008 | Who said Microsoft was an underdog? Go die... |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3002 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
Mass Effect-91 Average:88 MGS4-94 Average:86.666... You don't give a damn about GRAW? |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 6127 Joined: 30 Jan 2008 |
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(I searched the forums, couldn't find anything resembling it. Also, i thought twice about posting this topic, but then i thought "What the hell?" so let's get on with it. PS. woo ho! infamous scribbler!)
I admit, I'm a Sony boy i love my PS3 (need work out my Wii though). But it seems that no matter what happens, no matter What Sony does whether it be good or bad they are always attacked by anyone who thinks otherwise. Some examples would be the whole "Trophy = Achievements (but better)" thing and the "Sony late to the XMB business" and "SonyLife feature being the same as the Wii Weather and news channels". This has been going around ever since the PS3 was launched as everyone tries to nitpick at whatever Sony has planned.
My question is, why is it always Sony? I bet if the Wii actually came out with, let's say, Accomplishments then there wouldn't be too much of a hassle. Everyone would be happy, Wii owners would love it IMO. But the second the PS3 comes up with something (again IMHO) that's better than Achievements everyone goes apeshit.
Now, this is not promoting a war here, each console has pros and cons, but why specifically Sony?
I do admit, sometimes they can be annoying (Hell, we should have predicted that they would have taken down the 2.4 Firmware update, even i wasn't too surprised when that happened) but it seems that Sony gets the most shit while M$ and Nintendo get the most slack for almost everything.